[maemo-users] RE: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (TaskNavigator, Home, Status bar)?
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 17:15 -0400, Andrew Barr wrote: On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 15:57 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: - Bonjour. I've heard (but never tried) that if a bunch of Macs are sitting around, they can find each other and IM using Bonjour. The example relayed to me was at a conference the reporter wasn't close enough to the speaker to get a good picture. So, he got on IM and found someone closer to send him a picture. It would be very cool to do similar stuff, and connect to the same Macs, through the 770. I was going to try compiling avahi-daemon for this purpose--it makes addressing a device in an ad-hoc network with link-local addresses MUCH easier, among other things. The IM bits are supported by Gaim 2.0 beta releases. Very cool. Sounds exciting. I think Bonjour can have other interesting solutions built on top of it. If nothing else, finding Doom network games ;) - LEAP support. I'm not sure if Cisco allows anyone to know about LEAP, especially in an open platform. But, it'd be nice to be able to log on to Cisco wireless. This has been long supported by wpa_supplicant (no thanks to Cisco though). Unfortunately, the Nokia IAP software is closed-source and I don't know if it's related to wpa_supplicant at all. You might have some luck with wpa_supplicant but unless the proprietary WLAN driver supports the latest WE extensions or the prism54 wpa_supplicant driver you're likely out of luck. Okay, I'll look into it more. It wasn't listed on the options in the networking configuration dialog, and I didn't look further. --Ted signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] RE: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (TaskNavigator, Home, Status bar)?
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 23:35 -0700, Ted Gould wrote: This has been long supported by wpa_supplicant (no thanks to Cisco though). Unfortunately, the Nokia IAP software is closed-source and I don't know if it's related to wpa_supplicant at all. You might have some luck with wpa_supplicant but unless the proprietary WLAN driver supports the latest WE extensions or the prism54 wpa_supplicant driver you're likely out of luck. Okay, I'll look into it more. It wasn't listed on the options in the networking configuration dialog, and I didn't look further. I should point out that if you use wpa_supplicant (if it's possible) you are bypassing the Nokia connectivity bits completely, and there's no GUI. Once you're connected there's no issue, and you can store your username and password in a configuration file, but that does scare some people off :). To stop maemo-ized apps from complaining they're not online (because the Nokia IAP isn't aware of it) you can create a dummy IAP profile. Search for the DummyIAP page on the Maemo wiki. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual (1925) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] RE: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (TaskNavigator, Home, Status bar)?
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 04:02:11PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still accepting feature ideas to my roadmap, so please keep on posting them on the list. What would you wish from your dream-device in terms of UI framework (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar, Control panel)? Is there something you would like to have done better or something that you'd like to have to be done in a completely different way? Don't limit your imagination to how e.g. Task Navigator works now, but think how it would ideally work, without the limits? What would be ultra-cool there? Speed. User interface that redraws instantly. Sort of like Palms did with their dinky 33 MHz processors. ;) The ability to enter Ctrl+Foo combinations from the virtual keyboard (for xterm) would also be nice. Support for Bluetooth file transfers out of the box. Now the 770 can access a phone's file system (via OBEX FTP), but you cannot transfer files from one 770 directly to another (or to a Palm). I also want OBEX PUSH. Please think it also out of context of the current hardware, you can suggest also ideas that would be nice on the platform despite they aren't really realistic with the current 770 hardware. Any cool ideas are warmly welcome. Movie playback without having to reencode. Marius Gedminas -- Lost packet, 42 bytes, last seen on a saturated OC3, reward $$$. -- Eric^2 on Slashdot signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] RE: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (TaskNavigator, Home, Status bar)?
hi karoliina, On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 16:02 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still accepting feature ideas to my roadmap, so please keep on posting them on the list. What would you wish from your dream-device in terms of UI framework (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar, Control panel)? Is there something you would like to have done better or something that you'd like to have to be done in a completely different way? Don't limit your imagination to how e.g. Task Navigator works now, but think how it would ideally work, without the limits? What would be ultra-cool there? Please think it also out of context of the current hardware, you can suggest also ideas that would be nice on the platform despite they aren't really realistic with the current 770 hardware. Any cool ideas are warmly welcome. 1) the realistic stuff -- Desktop should offer applet edge snapping 2) the more blue-sky stuff unrelated to what you asked but it is nice to get to complain sometimes --- As a user, I find myself getting really frustrated by the input mechanisms available. Yes, the new on-screen keyboard is better but I always end up typing stuff and then suddendly realize that one of the letters I typed was not correctly entered (skipped or a nearby key). Maybe something to do with the audio feedback. It just does not seem to be right sometimes. Maybe something to do with the fact that there is little (i.e., none) tactile feedback on hitting the keys. Maybe you could add a sort of visible feedback upon key hit. Something like a fast quickly fading expanding circle around the key hit to make sure that my fingers do not hide the key color change. Also, It feels like the form-factor of the keyboard on screen as it related to the physical form factor of the device is not right: my hands hurt quickly when I try to use the thumb keyboard because I feel like my hands do not make a natural angle. Ok so, I get really frustrated by this and, more generally, by the design of the user interface which is basically just like a classic point-and-click-with-mouse UI. I know this is great because you want to leverage the existing GTK+ framework but it seems to me an awesome user experience would come from a more radical redesign. An interesting idea for thumb-based UI was jackito http://www.jackito-tda.com/what_is_jackito/overview.php but they seem to have gone super-low-visibility after some OEM interest. My best guess is that this privately-held company was bought by a larger vendor, nokia maybe, who knows what sekret stuff is done there ;-) Mathieu -- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] RE: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (TaskNavigator, Home, Status bar)?
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 15:57 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: - Bonjour. I've heard (but never tried) that if a bunch of Macs are sitting around, they can find each other and IM using Bonjour. The example relayed to me was at a conference the reporter wasn't close enough to the speaker to get a good picture. So, he got on IM and found someone closer to send him a picture. It would be very cool to do similar stuff, and connect to the same Macs, through the 770. I was going to try compiling avahi-daemon for this purpose--it makes addressing a device in an ad-hoc network with link-local addresses MUCH easier, among other things. The IM bits are supported by Gaim 2.0 beta releases. - LEAP support. I'm not sure if Cisco allows anyone to know about LEAP, especially in an open platform. But, it'd be nice to be able to log on to Cisco wireless. This has been long supported by wpa_supplicant (no thanks to Cisco though). Unfortunately, the Nokia IAP software is closed-source and I don't know if it's related to wpa_supplicant at all. You might have some luck with wpa_supplicant but unless the proprietary WLAN driver supports the latest WE extensions or the prism54 wpa_supplicant driver you're likely out of luck. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual (1925) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
