[maemo-users] US users of Nokia 770 - compatibility with Bluetooth-enabled cellphone as modem

2006-09-28 Thread david feldman

Hello,

I am preparing to replace my cell phone (on the verizon network, hence the 
US-specific question).


I wish to use the phone to serve as a modem with my Nokia 770, using 
bluetooth as the link between the two devices. I have done this successfully 
in the past, however, not with any of the phones that are now available to 
me as choices.


The choices I have for phones are based on this URL:

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id%5B%5D=905id%5B%5D=980id%5B%5D=704id%5B%5D=953id%5B%5D=950

which yields these choices:

LG VX-8300
LG VX-8500
LG VX-9800
Motorola RAZR V3m
Samsung SCH-A990

It appears all five of these offer DUN (dial-up networking) profile on 
Bluetooth, along with Verizon's 1xEVDO (high speed data) network service.


My question is this - have you had any experience integrating any of these 
five phones with the Nokia 770 for wireless wide-area Internet access, or do 
you know of any resource that could help me pre-confirm interoperability? I 
am asking this question because the carrier (Verizon Wireless) offered data 
integration kit only pertains to Windows computers, and in fact I will need 
to do the integration manually (figuring out the AT DT type dialing 
information and such) and won't be able to get vendor support.


Very thanks for any advice,

Dave

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Re: [maemo-users] US users of Nokia 770 - compatibility with Bluetooth-enabled cellphone as modem

2006-09-28 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Title: Best Regards,




David,

as I understand from commentary on various discussion lists, Verizon
does not like its users to use their mobile handsets as a modem
(so-called "tethering") to reach Verizon's EVDO service. Sprint on the
other hand seems to be more flexible in this respect.

Having said that, the Verizon handset models running Windows Mobile
5.0 and incorporating both bluetooth as well as EVDO (and of course
CDMA for voice) can be modified to expose the modem application,
wmodem.exe, on the handset. Among these handsets is the XV6700 which
also has a mini usb connector so, with an adapter cable it can be
connected, for example, to a PC's USB port. 

Here is the url to information about how to enable DUN on the XV6700:


http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6700-xv6700/64889-bluetooth-dun-tethering-solution-verizon-xv6700-codes-method.html

These mods of course are specific to WM 5.0 if not the XV6700.

Because I do not have any bluetooth PC adapters I have not verified
myself whether or not this mod works with bluetooth as in claimed at
the aforementioned www page.
















Best
Regards,

John
Holmblad

Acadia
Secure Networks





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
  
  
I am preparing to replace my cell phone (on the verizon network, hence
the US-specific question).
  
  
I wish to use the phone to serve as a modem with my Nokia 770, using
bluetooth as the link between the two devices. I have done this
successfully in the past, however, not with any of the phones that are
now available to me as choices.
  
  
The choices I have for phones are based on this URL:
  
  
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id%5B%5D=905id%5B%5D=980id%5B%5D=704id%5B%5D=953id%5B%5D=950
  
  
which yields these choices:
  
  
LG VX-8300
  
LG VX-8500
  
LG VX-9800
  
Motorola RAZR V3m
  
Samsung SCH-A990
  
  
It appears all five of these offer DUN (dial-up networking) profile on
Bluetooth, along with Verizon's 1xEVDO (high speed data) network
service.
  
  
My question is this - have you had any experience integrating any of
these five phones with the Nokia 770 for wireless wide-area Internet
access, or do you know of any resource that could help me pre-confirm
interoperability? I am asking this question because the carrier
(Verizon Wireless) offered data integration kit only pertains to
Windows computers, and in fact I will need to do the integration
manually (figuring out the AT DT type dialing information and such) and
won't be able to get vendor support.
  
  
Very thanks for any advice,
  
  
Dave
  
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
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Re: [maemo-users] US users of Nokia 770 - compatibility with Bluetooth-enabled cellphone as modem

2006-09-28 Thread Brad Midgley
david

 I am preparing to replace my cell phone (on the verizon network, hence
 the US-specific question).

First off, none of the pocketpc phones can reliably deliver high-speed
DUN to a linux client. My guess is that the windows xp DUN client
intentionally slows things down so the phone doesn't crash or drop the
connection. The xv6700 will lock up solid when you try to use high-speed
DUN and the samsung i730 will drop the connection randomly. The i730 I
had only worked OK when NOT in an evdo coverage area.

I went round and round with verizon on DUN. I'd recommend Sprint if you
can switch, but if you have to use verizon, this is What I found:

1. Verizon advertises several phones as bluetooth dialup capable and
even names the DUN profile in technical materials without necessarily
following the profile's spec. What you get with some of these phones is
bluetooth dialup *if* you are using their connection software which
obviously does not work on nokia. The nokia will not even be able to
discover the DUN service if this is the problem.

2. You may lose DUN at any time. Verizon removed standards-based DUN
from my e815 during a required firmware upgrade. After calling them on
it, they replaced it with a palm 700p, but I'm sure they will continue
this practice.

I hope DUN continues to work on my 700p but at least I have a hope of
finding a third-party palm utility to reenable it if Verizon takes it
away from me.

I am paying $60 for data ($45 for unlimited pda data and $15 on top of
that for the priviledge to use it through bluetooth). Sprint has the
same deal in a $40 data package.

Brad
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