Re: N900 features

2009-12-13 Thread Peter Flynn
Mark Haury wrote:
[...]
 Abiword doesn't work for me. I can't get it to open anything other than 
 its native proprietary format. I've tried the maemo version, the linux 
 version and the Windows version, all with the same results.

You mean on the N900? Or anywhere at all? I've been using it under 
Ubuntu, Windows, Red Hat, and Maemo OS-2008 without any problems.

I wouldn't expect any version of any software to run unmodified on the 
N900 (or N800/880/770 for that matter). It would need to be compiled 
with the relevant toolchain. Or did you mean you compiled it yourself?

///Peter
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Re: N900 features

2009-12-13 Thread Laura Conrad
 Peter == Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie writes:

Peter I've never quite understood why, given that only 10 years
Peter ago, my main system was a 64Mb desktop running Red Hat 3 or
Peter something, and WordPerfect for Linux (another monolithic
Peter monster) executed quite usably, if slowly. I would have
Peter thought that in the intervening decade, technology would
Peter have advanced a little more than this.

It has -- Microsoft Word has invented lots more kinds of bloat than
they had 10 years ago, so a program that tries to read all possible
Word documents has to be lots bigger.

Software never gets faster.  When they make the hardware faster, they
make the software slower to compensate.

-- 
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http://www.laymusic.org/ http://www.serpentpublications.org

What a natural history of religion would show is that the human
experience of the divine has deep roots in psychoactive plants and
fungi.  (Karl Marx may have gotten it backward when he called religion
the opiate of the people.)

Michael Pollan, _The Botany of Desire_
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Re: N900 features

2009-12-13 Thread Peter Flynn
Mark Haury wrote:
 Peter Flynn wrote:
 Mark Haury wrote:
 [...]
   
 Abiword doesn't work for me. I can't get it to open anything other than 
 its native proprietary format. I've tried the maemo version, the linux 
 version and the Windows version, all with the same results.
 
 You mean on the N900? Or anywhere at all? I've been using it under 
 Ubuntu, Windows, Red Hat, and Maemo OS-2008 without any problems.

 I wouldn't expect any version of any software to run unmodified on the 
 N900 (or N800/880/770 for that matter). It would need to be compiled 
 with the relevant toolchain. Or did you mean you compiled it yourself?

 ///Peter
   
 
 Anywhere at all. It doesn't work on my desktops (any of them), laptop or 
 desktop. 

That's interesting, and rather weird.

 Maybe if your documents have little to no formatting it works, 
 but the documents I need to open invariably have lots of formatting: 
 fonts, indents, tables, columns, graphics, etc. IMO if the only thing 
 that matters in a given document is the text, then a plaintext file is 
 adequate and much more portable to _any_ device. Otherwise, complete 
 feature support is mandatory. Regardless, the fact that Abiword defaults 
 to its own proprietary format (or the fact that it even _has_ its own 
 unique format) makes it problematic. The last thing the world needs is 
 yet another noncompatible document format, and being forced to go 
 through a conversion process every time you want to create or edit a 
 document is a PITA.

All of which is true, except that all wordprocessors have their own 
unique default format, and always have...a relic of the days when 
Marketing people though it was terribly, terribly clever to trap the 
user with an impenetrable and incompatible file format (sadly, some of 
them still think like this).

But the documents I use are also heavily formatted; although none of 
them are authored in AbiWord, which I only use (on an Ubuntu 9.10 
desktop) for its ability to convert (clumsily, but fairly accurately) to 
LaTeX and a few other formats. For anything requiring Word 
compatibility, I use OpenOffice, which is why I was interested to see 
someone got it working on the N800.

I do use AbiWord on the N800 for the occasional (but rare) document I 
need to write while I'm travelling and save as .doc or .odt for someone 
else; and (again rarely, and usually only when away) to open a 
downloaded .doc or .docx email attachment. In essence, it's a slightly 
cronky but functional tool.

For anything requiring serious work I use Emacs and LaTeX: I can't 
imagine the nightmare of trying to do typesetting in a wordprocessor.

///Peter
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Re: N900 features

2009-12-13 Thread John B. Holmblad
Sebas,

you might want to have your client read the following recent review at 
the amazon.com www site:


http://www.amazon.com/review/R1T7KKC62GZ5JZ/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R1T7KKC62GZ5JZ

and specifically the commentary there regarding the included  email 
client and the difficulty of getting the touch screen to work without a 
stylus. As of now the device is scoring an average of 4 out of 5 among 
the reviewers so far.



Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

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sebastian maemo wrote:
 Hi everybody:

 One of my clients has recently asked me about the possibility to get a 
 portable computer like my N770... :-)

 I've talked him about the N900, and despite the price of the unlocked 
 device, he has asked me to check whether its features would satisfy 
 his needs...

 I know how N770 works... but I have almost no idea about N900...

 I have read the full specs at the Nokia website 
 http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications, 
 though I'd like to know whether there's any application that enables a 
 user to open a M$ Office file, (doc or xls type, for example).
 I think that the answer is no, though that wouldn't be a problem if 
 the PDF reader works well enough...


 -- 
 Salut,
 Sebas
 

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Re: N900 features

2009-12-12 Thread Mark Haury
sebastian maemo wrote:
 Hi everybody:

 One of my clients has recently asked me about the possibility to get a 
 portable computer like my N770... :-)

 I've talked him about the N900, and despite the price of the unlocked 
 device, he has asked me to check whether its features would satisfy 
 his needs...

 I know how N770 works... but I have almost no idea about N900...

 I have read the full specs at the Nokia website 
 http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications, 
 though I'd like to know whether there's any application that enables a 
 user to open a M$ Office file, (doc or xls type, for example).
 I think that the answer is no, though that wouldn't be a problem if 
 the PDF reader works well enough...


 -- 
 Salut,
 Sebas
OpenOffice.org is available for the N8x0 through Easy Debian, but I 
don't know if it will work with the N900 yet.
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/easy-deb-chroot/
Maybe it will be available for the N900 soon?

Mark
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Re: N900 features

2009-12-12 Thread Mark Haury
Peter Flynn wrote:
 sebastian maemo wrote:
   
 Hi everybody:

 One of my clients has recently asked me about the possibility to get a 
 portable computer like my N770... :-)

 I've talked him about the N900, and despite the price of the unlocked 
 device, he has asked me to check whether its features would satisfy his 
 needs...

 I know how N770 works... but I have almost no idea about N900...

 I have read the full specs at the Nokia website 
 http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications, 
 though I'd like to know whether there's any application that enables a 
 user to open a M$ Office file, (doc or xls type, for example).
 I think that the answer is no, though that wouldn't be a problem if the 
 PDF reader works well enough...
 

 I don't know about the N900, but AbiWord on the N800 has no problem 
 opening .doc and .docx files. And the PDF reader works fine.
Abiword doesn't work for me. I can't get it to open anything other than 
its native proprietary format. I've tried the maemo version, the linux 
version and the Windows version, all with the same results. Maybe your 
experience will be different.

Mark
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