Re: Office document support

2009-05-08 Thread Gary
Andrew Daviel wrote:
 There were things like antiword and catdoc as well which did 
 a slightly better job.
   

Pine and antiword used to be my best friends. Using either with the
tablet are a pain in the posterior w/o a Bluetooth keyboard for CTRL
keys but I like that the newer X-term has taken alt keys in to
consideration. Are there light versions of Google docs? I ask because
with my tablet I'm always using the plain HTML or mobile versions of
gmail and google.com/xhtml for searching with my tablet. On a side note,
the iPhone and iPod Touch can view office documents out of the box.

-Gary
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Re: Office document support

2009-05-08 Thread James Knott
Gary wrote:
 Andrew Daviel wrote:
   
 There were things like antiword and catdoc as well which did 
 a slightly better job.
   
 

 Pine and antiword used to be my best friends. Using either with the
 tablet are a pain in the posterior w/o a Bluetooth keyboard for CTRL
 keys but I like that the newer X-term has taken alt keys in to
 consideration. Are there light versions of Google docs? I ask because
 with my tablet I'm always using the plain HTML or mobile versions of
 gmail and google.com/xhtml for searching with my tablet. On a side note,
 the iPhone and iPod Touch can view office documents out of the box.

   

I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but with OpenOffice, you can
export a document as PDF, which the tablets can handle.

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Re: Office document support

2009-05-08 Thread Mark
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:
 Gary wrote:
 Andrew Daviel wrote:

 There were things like antiword and catdoc as well which did
 a slightly better job.



 Pine and antiword used to be my best friends. Using either with the
 tablet are a pain in the posterior w/o a Bluetooth keyboard for CTRL
 keys but I like that the newer X-term has taken alt keys in to
 consideration. Are there light versions of Google docs? I ask because
 with my tablet I'm always using the plain HTML or mobile versions of
 gmail and google.com/xhtml for searching with my tablet. On a side note,
 the iPhone and iPod Touch can view office documents out of the box.



 I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but with OpenOffice, you can
 export a document as PDF, which the tablets can handle.

If you know ahead of time and only need to view a document there are
lots of utilities (many free) that can convert pretty much anything to
PDF. However, you can't edit PDFs, especially on the tablets.

Mark
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Re: Office document support

2009-05-07 Thread lakestevensdental
Andrew Daviel wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Rainer Dorsch wrote:

   
 Does anybody know what is the status of viewing MS office and openoffice
 documents on the N810?
 

 At some point I was playing with OpenOffice server mode. It's broken 
 right now, but the idea was if you wanted to view an office document on 
 the tablet, and it was on the Web already, you passed the URL to a 
 web service URL and it returned a PDF
   
Google Docs lets you look at AND play AND save OpenOffice files while 
online.  You just need a free google account and internet access to make 
it work, assuming the tablet's Firefox can handle Google Docs.

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Re: Office document support

2009-05-07 Thread Mark
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:03 PM, lakestevensdental
lakestevensden...@verizon.net wrote:
 Andrew Daviel wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Rainer Dorsch wrote:


 Does anybody know what is the status of viewing MS office and openoffice
 documents on the N810?


 At some point I was playing with OpenOffice server mode. It's broken
 right now, but the idea was if you wanted to view an office document on
 the tablet, and it was on the Web already, you passed the URL to a
 web service URL and it returned a PDF

 Google Docs lets you look at AND play AND save OpenOffice files while
 online.  You just need a free google account and internet access to make
 it work, assuming the tablet's Firefox can handle Google Docs.

...provided it's a *very* basic document with almost nothing in the
way of special features like formatted sections, tables, images, and
other imbedded stuff. I've had zero luck with Google Docs, even on my
desktop. If you *create* the documents with Google Docs, you're fine,
but trying to view and work with documents created with Word or OOo is
an exercise in futility  frustration.

Your best bet is Turbo Easy Debian for Everyone
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/easy-deb-chroot/

Mark
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Re: Office document support

2009-05-07 Thread Mark
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Rainer Dorsch rdor...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,

 earlier this week a friend asked me for a recommendation for an internet
 tablet. Pretty much all his requirements were met by N810 (and there would be
 extra goodies in the N810) except viewing office formats.

 Does anybody know what is the status of viewing MS office and openoffice
 documents on the N810?

 If that is unfeasible right now, what would be a good alternative? EeePC? Or
 is there something more portable?

 Many thanks,
 Rainer

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My EeePC 1000HE is great, and has more bang for the buck than any
other netbook out there, but is significantly larger than the original
EeePC. If money is no object, there's no substitute for the OQO
machines http://www.oqo.com/index.html . A full Windows computer in an
N810 form factor only a little larger. They're actually about half the
cost they used to be, but at this point they've removed the pricing
from their Web site.

Mark
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Re: Office document support

2009-05-07 Thread lakestevensdental
Mark wrote:
 On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:03 PM, lakestevensdental
 lakestevensden...@verizon.net wrote:
   
 Andrew Daviel wrote:
 
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Rainer Dorsch wrote:


   
 Does anybody know what is the status of viewing MS office and openoffice
 documents on the N810?

 
 At some point I was playing with OpenOffice server mode. It's broken
 right now, but the idea was if you wanted to view an office document on
 the tablet, and it was on the Web already, you passed the URL to a
 web service URL and it returned a PDF

   
 Google Docs lets you look at AND play AND save OpenOffice files while
 online.  You just need a free google account and internet access to make
 it work, assuming the tablet's Firefox can handle Google Docs.

 
 ...provided it's a *very* basic document with almost nothing in the
 way of special features like formatted sections, tables, images, and
 other imbedded stuff. I've had zero luck with Google Docs, even on my
 desktop. If you *create* the documents with Google Docs, you're fine,
 but trying to view and work with documents created with Word or OOo is
 an exercise in futility  frustration.
   
I've NEVER had any trouble dealing with Google Docs, but then the most 
complex thing I've typically got might be a table or two in a couple 
page document.

 So it's probably valid to say if you've got simple stuff, Google Docs 
probably will work fine.  If you've got complex heavy formatted docs 
with various imbeds that push OpenOffice on a typical desktop to the 
limit, it probably won't work for Google Docs.  No surprise there.  Most 
docs for most folks are probably of the simple variety, so go ahead and 
try it rather than follow the blanket recommendation of someone who 
needs don't appear to be simple.  If it works, fine, you can move on to 
other tasks.

 Also, like everything, Google Docs is in constant evolution and subject 
to frequent upgrading process.  What might not have worked a year or 
month ago, might work fine now.   
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Re: Office document support

2009-05-06 Thread Andrew Daviel
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Rainer Dorsch wrote:

 Does anybody know what is the status of viewing MS office and openoffice
 documents on the N810?

At some point I was playing with OpenOffice server mode. It's broken 
right now, but the idea was if you wanted to view an office document on 
the tablet, and it was on the Web already, you passed the URL to a 
web service URL and it returned a PDF


 If that is unfeasible right now, what would be a good alternative? EeePC? Or
 is there something more portable?

I got my daughter an Acer Aspire One. That fits nicely in a small 
backpack or large handbag, and comes with OO. While my N810 fits in my 
pocket..

At one point (before OO) I was using strings and a Tk scroller, which 
would let me read most Word 97 documents. At least, the ones that should 
have been sent as a text message, not the ones with lots of graphics and 
tables. There were things like antiword and catdoc as well which did 
a slightly better job.

Andrew
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Re: Office document support

2009-04-18 Thread Qole
Well, if you can wait a minute for OpenOffice to start, it works well enough; 
especially if you're familiar with the performance of computers from 1996. :-)

The install includes a few menu icons and 'debbie oowriter' will start the word 
processor from the command line (or in Personal Menu).

You want 'dbus switchboard' if you want to do MIME type handling. You can 
assign applications to file types so clicking on links in the browser, the file 
manager or in an e-mail will launch your chosen app.

DBus Switchboard: 
http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17757

- Original message -
I will look into the easy-deb-chroot stuff (running Debian since 1996 on all my 
systems:-). So far I thought chroot is only a toy and openoffice is far
too heavy for realworld usage.

How enduser friendly is such an installation. E.g. can it be configured that 
clicking on a ppt document in the browser opens OpenOffice as viewer right 
away? Do I have to start OO always from the cmd line or is there an easy way to 
make it showing up in any kind of menu?

Many thanks,
Rainer



Am Freitag, 17. April 2009 schrieb Qole:
 There are several ways to view MS Office / OpenOffice documents on the
 tablet. My favorite, of course, is my project, Easy Debian (easy-deb-chroot
 in Extras) which allows you to run full OpenOffice right on the tablet.

 See also:
 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24272
 http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/easy-deb-chroot/
 - Original message -
 Hello,

 earlier this week a friend asked me for a recommendation for an internet
 tablet. Pretty much all his requirements were met by N810 (and there would
 be extra goodies in the N810) except viewing office formats.

 Does anybody know what is the status of viewing MS office and openoffice
 documents on the N810?

 If that is unfeasible right now, what would be a good alternative? EeePC?
 Or is there something more portable?

 Many thanks,
 Rainer

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Office document support

2009-04-17 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hello,

earlier this week a friend asked me for a recommendation for an internet 
tablet. Pretty much all his requirements were met by N810 (and there would be 
extra goodies in the N810) except viewing office formats. 

Does anybody know what is the status of viewing MS office and openoffice 
documents on the N810?

If that is unfeasible right now, what would be a good alternative? EeePC? Or 
is there something more portable?

Many thanks,
Rainer

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Lärchenstr. 6
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07157-734133
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