Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-25 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Michael Stepanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You have to provide more information. What's your Access Point and
 it's settings? How often does the problem appear? Also please be more
 precise, not accessible doesn't tell that much.

 I have DLink DI-524 Wireless Router.

Sounds like an older AP to me.

 There is only one WiFi enabled device - Nokia770. When I said 'not
 accessible' I meaned that I cannot even ping it during some time.
 But the connection manager shows that WiFi signal is good. That
 happens very often but randomly. I'll be very appreciated if you can
 tell me a way how to trace it. Is there possibility to switch on
 logging system on Nokia770?

The best way to check this is with a wireless sniffer and analyse WLAN
packets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_sniffer

But you have to be familiar with WLAN protocol. Alternatively you can
upload the capture to a webserver, send the link to this mailing list
and I can take a look.

(I don't generally give private support, I only answer questions in
public mailing lists.)

 My first guess would be that your Access Point does not support WLAN
 Power Save Mode properly. 770 uses Power Save Mode and it's not widely
 used yet. Especially the older APs seem to be more buggy than the
 newer ones.

 Is it possible to switch off WLAN Power Save Mode?

There's no easy solution with 770, sorry. And besides, if you disable
WLAN Power Save Mode the battery will run out within few hours.

I would recommend trying with another AP first. Most of the APs
support WLAN Power Save Mode properly.

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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-20 Thread Michael Stepanov
On 9/19/07, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have DLink DI-524 Wireless Router. There is only one WiFi enabled
 device -
  Nokia770. When I said 'not accessible' I meaned that I cannot even ping
 it
  during some time. But the connection manager shows that WiFi signal is
 good.
  That happens very often but randomly. I'll be very appreciated if you
 can
  tell me a way how to trace it. Is there possibility to switch on logging
  system on Nokia770?

 You might check the DHCP lease time.

 I remember a case where someone had a Wireless AP which had the DHCP
 lease time set to 2 minutes.


The  DHCP lease time is one week on my AP.

This caused a WLAN phone to function poorly occasionally.

 I do not know how to check the DHCP lease time on D-Link products.

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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-19 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Michael Stepanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I try to use Nokia 770 as control panel for open source system for home
 automation Plutohome. The application is very critical to losing WiFi
 connection. But I see that sometimes 770 is not accessible. Even it cannot
 be pinged. It's strange because device is very close to the access point
 (about one meter). any idea how to solve that problem?

You have to provide more information. What's your Access Point and
it's settings? How often does the problem appear? Also please be more
precise, not accessible doesn't tell that much.

My first guess would be that your Access Point does not support WLAN
Power Save Mode properly. 770 uses Power Save Mode and it's not widely
used yet. Especially the older APs seem to be more buggy than the
newer ones.

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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-19 Thread Michael Stepanov
On 9/19/07, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ext Michael Stepanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I try to use Nokia 770 as control panel for open source system for home
  automation Plutohome. The application is very critical to losing WiFi
  connection. But I see that sometimes 770 is not accessible. Even it
 cannot
  be pinged. It's strange because device is very close to the access point
  (about one meter). any idea how to solve that problem?

 You have to provide more information. What's your Access Point and
 it's settings? How often does the problem appear? Also please be more
 precise, not accessible doesn't tell that much.


I have DLink DI-524 Wireless Router. There is only one WiFi enabled device -
Nokia770. When I said 'not accessible' I meaned that I cannot even ping it
during some time. But the connection manager shows that WiFi signal is good.
That happens very often but randomly. I'll be very appreciated if you can
tell me a way how to trace it. Is there possibility to switch on logging
system on Nokia770?

My first guess would be that your Access Point does not support WLAN
 Power Save Mode properly. 770 uses Power Save Mode and it's not widely
 used yet. Especially the older APs seem to be more buggy than the
 newer ones.


Is it possible to switch off WLAN Power Save Mode?

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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-19 Thread Michael Stepanov
On 9/18/07, David Rudder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, I don't have an answer for you.  Your Plutohome integration
 sounds incredible.  Can you write some more about it?


You can read more info about using Nokia770/N800 in Plutohome or LinuxMCE
here -

http://smart-home-blog.com/writes/nokia770-as-plutohome-orbiter-os2006

Have a look some pictures here -
http://flickr.com/photos/smartblog/tags/orbiter/

I'd invite you to come speak at the local LUG, but Cyprus is kind of far
 away.  If you're ever in Colorado...





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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-19 Thread Michael Stepanov
On 9/18/07, DrFredC.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It's possible that some other programs or home network computers might be
 overloading your network and wifi with traffic and/or requests of some sort
 that might bog things down enough to disrupt a finnicky connection.

 For example, in background, your computer's virus scanner and spyware
 might be downloading updates while someone else's email program is
 downloading some large photo attachment.

 Our home wifi connection typically gets quirkiest when my son (hardwired
 to the home net) is downloading a Warcraft update, jumping into some new
 Warcraft game, or watching some video over the net that sucks up a lot of
 bandwidth.

 Bottomline, Wifi routerware doesn't always prioritize traffic to match
 everyone's individual needs for smooth communications and there can be lots
 of BS going on in background that doesn't make things any easier for
 routerware to sort out.


Access point is used for Nokia770 only. There is no any WiFi enabled
devices. So, it shouldn't be problem with traffic.


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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-19 Thread Michael Stepanov
On 9/18/07, Samer Azmy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did not face any WIFI disturbance using my Nokia770 for more than a year
 so far
 I agree on the below post


It's depend  of how do you use it. When I just browse Internet it works
fine. I don't see any problems. But the application for smart home needs to
have a strong connection between device and core server. If the device lost
it by some reason in short period - about one minute, the application
crashes. I played with both Nokia770 and N800. N800 works much more stable
than Nokia770.

Good Luck


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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-19 Thread Michael Stepanov
On 9/19/07, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have DLink DI-524 Wireless Router. There is only one WiFi enabled
 device -
  Nokia770. When I said 'not accessible' I meaned that I cannot even ping
 it
  during some time. But the connection manager shows that WiFi signal is
 good.
  That happens very often but randomly. I'll be very appreciated if you
 can
  tell me a way how to trace it. Is there possibility to switch on logging
  system on Nokia770?

 You might check the DHCP lease time.


Good point, Brian. I'll check it tonight.

I remember a case where someone had a Wireless AP which had the DHCP
 lease time set to 2 minutes.

 This caused a WLAN phone to function poorly occasionally.

 I do not know how to check the DHCP lease time on D-Link products.

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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-18 Thread David Rudder
Sorry, I don't have an answer for you.  Your Plutohome integration 
sounds incredible.  Can you write some more about it? 

I'd invite you to come speak at the local LUG, but Cyprus is kind of far 
away.  If you're ever in Colorado...


Michael Stepanov wrote:
 Hi,

 I try to use Nokia 770 as control panel for open source system for 
 home automation Plutohome. The application is very critical to losing 
 WiFi connection. But I see that sometimes 770 is not accessible. Even 
 it cannot be pinged. It's strange because device is very close to the 
 access point (about one meter). any idea how to solve that problem?

 Thanks to advance.

 device: Nokia770
 OS: 2006 and 2007 Hacker Edition

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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-18 Thread DrFredC.com




It's possible that some other programs or home network computers might
be overloading your network and wifi with traffic and/or requests of
some sort that might bog things down enough to disrupt a finnicky
connection. 

For example, in background, your computer's virus scanner and spyware
might be downloading updates while someone else's email program is
downloading some large photo attachment. 

Our home wifi connection typically gets quirkiest when my son
(hardwired to the home net) is downloading a Warcraft update, jumping
into some new Warcraft game, or watching some video over the net that
sucks up a lot of bandwidth. 

Bottomline, Wifi routerware doesn't always prioritize traffic to match
everyone's individual needs for smooth communications and there can be
lots of BS going on in background that doesn't make things any easier
for routerware to sort out. 

Michael Stepanov wrote:
Hi,
  
I try to use Nokia 770 as control panel for open source system for home
automation Plutohome. The application is very critical to losing WiFi
connection. But I see that sometimes 770 is not accessible. Even it
cannot be pinged. It's strange because device is very close to the
access point (about one meter). any idea how to solve that problem?
  
  
Thanks to advance.
  
device: Nokia770
OS: 2006 and 2007 Hacker Edition
  
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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-18 Thread Samer Azmy
I did not face any WIFI disturbance using my Nokia770 for more than a year
so far
I agree on the below post

Good Luck

On 9/18/07, DrFredC.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It's possible that some other programs or home network computers might be
 overloading your network and wifi with traffic and/or requests of some sort
 that might bog things down enough to disrupt a finnicky connection.

 For example, in background, your computer's virus scanner and spyware
 might be downloading updates while someone else's email program is
 downloading some large photo attachment.

 Our home wifi connection typically gets quirkiest when my son (hardwired
 to the home net) is downloading a Warcraft update, jumping into some new
 Warcraft game, or watching some video over the net that sucks up a lot of
 bandwidth.

 Bottomline, Wifi routerware doesn't always prioritize traffic to match
 everyone's individual needs for smooth communications and there can be lots
 of BS going on in background that doesn't make things any easier for
 routerware to sort out.

 Michael Stepanov wrote:

 Hi,

 I try to use Nokia 770 as control panel for open source system for home
 automation Plutohome. The application is very critical to losing WiFi
 connection. But I see that sometimes 770 is not accessible. Even it cannot
 be pinged. It's strange because device is very close to the access point
 (about one meter). any idea how to solve that problem?

 Thanks to advance.

 device: Nokia770
 OS: 2006 and 2007 Hacker Edition

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Re: Nokia 770 periodically lose WiFi connection

2007-09-18 Thread Urivan Saaib
I just got back the replacement 770 from Nokia and while testing it
yesterday I noticed the 802.11 signal was showing very low even when I was
in the same desk as the AP. I took my laptop and 770 to the living room and 
even when the laptop showed excellent connection, the 770 lost connection
and couldn't find the AP.

Is something like a setting a tweak or trick to enhance signaling
management on the 770?

I tried changing from 10mW to 100mW and viceversa without any effect.

Regards,

==Original message text===
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:20:09 PDT Samer Azmy wrote:

I did not face any WIFI disturbance using my Nokia770 for more than a year
so far
I agree on the below post

Good Luck

On 9/18/07, DrFredC.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It's possible that some other programs or home network computers might be
 overloading your network and wifi with traffic and/or requests of some sort
 that might bog things down enough to disrupt a finnicky connection.

 For example, in background, your computer's virus scanner and spyware
 might be downloading updates while someone else's email program is
 downloading some large photo attachment.

 Our home wifi connection typically gets quirkiest when my son (hardwired
 to the home net) is downloading a Warcraft update, jumping into some new
 Warcraft game, or watching some video over the net that sucks up a lot of
 bandwidth.

 Bottomline, Wifi routerware doesn't always prioritize traffic to match
 everyone's individual needs for smooth communications and there can be lots
 of BS going on in background that doesn't make things any easier for
 routerware to sort out.

 Michael Stepanov wrote:

 Hi,

 I try to use Nokia 770 as control panel for open source system for home
 automation Plutohome. The application is very critical to losing WiFi
 connection. But I see that sometimes 770 is not accessible. Even it cannot
 be pinged. It's strange because device is very close to the access point
 (about one meter). any idea how to solve that problem?

 Thanks to advance.

 device: Nokia770
 OS: 2006 and 2007 Hacker Edition

 --
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