Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-03-01 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:33, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote:
 Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
 Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit :
  What need to be taken in account too is also the case
  Internet = 5-7 apps.
 
  Having :
  Internet = 5-7 submenus = 1 app entry
  is IMHO clearly suboptimal.
 
  ( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a lot ).

 Does it happen ? In a default Mandriva KDE installation I already have more
 than 10 internet applications.
 I do not use kde, but that doesn't sound good.
 What are the entries ? Are all of them really needed ?

 I prefer 3 quick steps rather than 2 long steps.
 This would requires some testing and measures to see which is faster,
 which is more confusing. Fcrozat did some tests, but I think the report
 were not published :/

I hate submenus, I always fail to navigate them properly (move the
mouse out and switch to other higher level menu and have to go back
and go down again in the submenu) Having submenus will usually make it
5 or 6 quick upsetting steps instead of 1 long one.


[Mageia-dev] Meeting tommorow evening

2011-03-01 Thread Cazzaniga Sandro
Hi,

Excuse me, but i will not at the packagers meeting tommorow. I'm in
vacations for three days.

Good day!! :)


Re: [Mageia-dev] mirror policy howto updates

2011-03-01 Thread Olivier Thauvin
* Romain d'Alverny (rdalve...@gmail.com) wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 for info/review/improv, I updated the mirrors policy page
 (http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy ) to have:
  * better readability
  * more details on sections (distrib, iso, software, people, possible
 archive one)
  * the mirror howto at the end (may be moved to a separate how to
 become a mirror? page I guess).
 
 Some discussions occurred with a mirror admin that brought up some
 bits left to improve:

  * have a clear expiration policy (hard to define before having the
 support policy setup)

This cycle cannot be less the support time of a distrib, but the distro
can be archived later. At time I don't know what the support policy...
hard to said much, indeed.

  * have an archive section in the mirror

What is this for ?

  * keep on explaining the tainted section outcomes, so mirror admins
 have better facts  info to decide

  * provide clear rsync modules to help admins quickly pick up what
 fits best for them.

Since all mirrors sync their tree from tier1, and we don't have the hand
on tier1 servers, we cannot provides rsync share as we want...

 
 Romain
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Re: [Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness

2011-03-01 Thread Marcello Anni
 Hi all,
 I'm experiencing a problem at the login: the monitor brightness is too 
 low and I can see window ghost only. No keyboard keys combinations 
 (Fn+Brightness[+/-]) works.
 Restarting kdm (service dm restart) seems to solve the problem, but 
 after a restart I'm still at the starting point.
 I'm on a hyunday as26 laptop, video card Unichrome S3 shared memory.
 Any tips?
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hi matteo, 

why don't you open a bug report and give the link here? thanks


cheers,
Marcello


Re: [Mageia-dev] ask for mentoring

2011-03-01 Thread Marcello Anni
 Hi,there ,
 
 I'm new to packaging .sometimes , I package some program when I run
 into some interesting ones ,but they are only used in my Mandriva box
 .
 And now ,I want to contribute to Mageia ,but I'm not very clear of the
 procedure (such as sending the public ssh key to Anne) , can some one
 do me
 a favour and mentor me in this aspect ?  Thanks in advance !
 
 Regards
 
 -- 
hi,

welcome on board : )

you'll find all the infos here:

http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging

the best way to start is to go to #mageia-mentoring or #mageia-dev on 
freenode. you'll find all the people that can help you to contribute.

cheers,
Marcello


Re: [Mageia-dev] mirror policy howto updates

2011-03-01 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 14:28, Olivier Thauvin
nanar...@nanardon.zarb.org wrote:
 * Romain d'Alverny (rdalve...@gmail.com) wrote:
  * have a clear expiration policy (hard to define before having the
 support policy setup)

 This cycle cannot be less the support time of a distrib, but the distro
 can be archived later. At time I don't know what the support policy...
 hard to said much, indeed.

  * have an archive section in the mirror

 What is this for ?

To move its contents to cheaper/slower storage systems. It's related
to above expiration policy: expired stuff would go into the archive
section.

  * keep on explaining the tainted section outcomes, so mirror admins
 have better facts  info to decide

  * provide clear rsync modules to help admins quickly pick up what
 fits best for them.

 Since all mirrors sync their tree from tier1, and we don't have the hand
 on tier1 servers, we cannot provides rsync share as we want...

Well, the question was to ease tier1 admins in this regard. But we
might as well just provide guidance and ready-to-use script for tier2
and others.

Romain


Re: [Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness

2011-03-01 Thread Matteo

Il 01/03/2011 15:06, Marcello Anni ha scritto:


hi matteo,

why don't you open a bug report and give the link here? thanks


cheers,
Marcello


Hi Marcello,
because I can't see into the components list any items that fits my 
needs. It's not an installation problem, I don't know which packages are 
involved into this specific problem and it's not a new package request 
neither a release media problem.
Before creating unuseful/wrong bug reports, I think it's better to ask 
devs. Am I wrong?

Have you any suggestion?

bye
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[Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread Ahmad Samir
At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
New: to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
added... etc).

This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
find this useful (or not).

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Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness

2011-03-01 Thread Matteo

Il 01/03/2011 18:57, Matteo ha scritto:

Il 01/03/2011 15:06, Marcello Anni ha scritto:


hi matteo,

why don't you open a bug report and give the link here? thanks


cheers,
Marcello


Hi Marcello,
because I can't see into the components list any items that fits my
needs. It's not an installation problem, I don't know which packages are
involved into this specific problem and it's not a new package request
neither a release media problem.
Before creating unuseful/wrong bug reports, I think it's better to ask
devs. Am I wrong?
Have you any suggestion?

bye

Updates:
Trying mandriva 2001 alpha 1 I experience the same problem, so I'm 
thinking it could be an openchrome module problem even if I'm not sure 
that brightness control is handled by the openchrome module.

Any tips?
Thanks in advance.
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[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10

2011-03-01 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Hi

As xserver-1.10 has just been released, I offer to do the upgrade like I did the
xserver-1.7 - xserver-1.9 upgrade in Mandriva :

- wait for most drivers to be compatible
- test xserver+basic drivers
- upload xserver-1.10 + rebuild drivers into core/testing
- wait for more test coverage
- fix issues
- wait for fglrx+nvidia to be ready for 1.10 (thx to Ubuntu, they
should support it fast enough)
- move packages from core/testing into core/release
  (expecting rpmctl or something equivalent to be available or
   spamming sysadmins)

WDYT?

See you


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 01 maart 2011 19:52:18 schreef Ahmad Samir:
 At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
 New: to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
 emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
 added... etc).
 
 This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
 find this useful (or not).

didn't notice, but no objections


Re: [Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10

2011-03-01 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 1 March 2011 23:28, Dexter Morgan dmorga...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Thierry Vignaud
 thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 As xserver-1.10 has just been released, I offer to do the upgrade like I did 
 the
 xserver-1.7 - xserver-1.9 upgrade in Mandriva :

 - wait for most drivers to be compatible
 - test xserver+basic drivers
 - upload xserver-1.10 + rebuild drivers into core/testing
 - wait for more test coverage
 - fix issues
 - wait for fglrx+nvidia to be ready for 1.10 (thx to Ubuntu, they
 should support it fast enough)
 - move packages from core/testing into core/release
  (expecting rpmctl or something equivalent to be available or
   spamming sysadmins)

 WDYT?

 See you


 seems perfect for me too


Yeah, perfect.

FWIW, nvidia-current-270.29 in Mageia officially supports XServer-1.10
c.f. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2396539

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-01 Thread nicolas vigier
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:

 At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
 New: to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
 emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
 added... etc).
 
 This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
 find this useful (or not).

I like it. And I think it would be nice to have the status in the
subject. And also the name of the author of the change in the from.