Re: [Mageia-dev] Security updates - Help needed (also forgot avidemux and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)

2012-07-06 Thread AL13N
Op donderdag 5 juli 2012 20:34:08 schreef David Walser:
 AL13N wrote:
  this is a good point: BTW, a missing dependency should not be
  considered a blocking issue as it can be easily fixed by the end user.
  Especially for a security update, as he probably already done it.
  
  also, not sure, but it seems the tester was unawere of perl-CGI-Fast being
  not really required (i think).
  
  still, IRC meeting yesterday seemed to conclude that security or major bug
  updates cannot be majorly delayed by bugs, it is however ok, to ask
  packager to do a quick fix for something at the same time.
  
  still, for this issue, it seems also that there was a month delay due to
  not setting assigned back. or even setting NEEDINFO.
 
 Incorrect.  There was a month delay because the packager who first submitted
 it to QA failed to provide an update for Mageia 2.  That person also failed
 to make any comment whatsoever, while being aware that questions had been
 raised.
 
 Let me be clear, I know we're all busy, and I don't expect things to be
 fixed right away all the time.  However, we need to communicate.  Even if
 you don't have time to fix something, if you know there are issues, and you
 have some input to give on it, give it.  I really don't appreciate being
 ignored for a month, and then when someone else tries to help, all of
 sudden you (not you Maarten) finally speak up and complain about what has
 been done.

i do understand, however, as i said, even though QA might be ignored, i think 
QA still would have to validate it, when QA reads this and sees no response, 
imho :-( .

  also, i notice that noone seemed to have pointed out the tester that in
  fact that dependency isn't required.
 
 But it is used by the default configuration, so a suggests is appropriate. 
 Our packages should be functional out of the box.

iiuc, the qa team member says it's required, and not suggested, and noone from 
packaging team thought about mentioning that it should be a suggests. (of 
course, i didn't know this, but suspected it)

  i also see that some sentences look harsh to one of both sides here. (or
  at
  least to me).
 
 Yes, that is true.  Both sides could tone it down, and it is really not
 appropriate to have that kind of argument in public on Bugzilla (IMO).


Re: [Mageia-dev] Security updates - Help needed (also forgot avidemux and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)

2012-07-06 Thread AL13N
Op donderdag 5 juli 2012 23:52:39 schreef Claire Robinson:
 On 05/07/12 23:34, nicolas vigier wrote:
  On Thu, 05 Jul 2012, Claire Robinson wrote:
  These recent attacks are causing even more work for us, which again helps
  nobody, and diverts our attention away from where it is really needed.
  Also
  I would point out that having to validate the same package several times
  obviously lessens the amount of time we can spend elsewhere, which
  compounds the problem.
  
  A disagreement is not an attack.
 
 With respect Nicolas, you're not on the receiving end.
[...]

allthough i see badly worded(possibly to look offensive) sentences, i don't 
think this is intentional, and more a problem of communication than something 
else. I often have the feeling that certain sentences from french people come 
accross as rude to me. I've come to understand that this is not the intention, 
but somehow related to how french sentences are built and how it's been 
translated to english.



Re: [Mageia-dev] Security updates - Help needed (also forgot avidemux and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)

2012-07-06 Thread Oliver Burger

Am 06.07.2012 08:18, schrieb AL13N:

Op donderdag 5 juli 2012 23:52:39 schreef Claire Robinson:

With respect Nicolas, you're not on the receiving end.

[...]

allthough i see badly worded(possibly to look offensive) sentences, i don't
think this is intentional, and more a problem of communication than something
else. I often have the feeling that certain sentences from french people come
accross as rude to me. I've come to understand that this is not the intention,
but somehow related to how french sentences are built and how it's been
translated to english.

The same thing was pointed out to me by a native speaker (as MrsB is), 
when I wrote an answer that somehow was rather rude to the receiver.
We have to keep in mind, that most of us are non native speakers and 
that all of us have slightly different cultures.
So - although it may be hard - it would be good for the native speakers 
among us, not to put every word through a rudeness detector. I know the 
Brits are far more courteous then the Germans (and perhaps the French as 
well?), so let's go back to fixing bugs and not feeling hurt by people 
who might not even be rude from their point of view...


Oliver


--
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Mageia contributor




Re: [Mageia-dev] UiAbstraction4mcc feature proposal

2012-07-06 Thread Angelo Naselli
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Hi,
 I think MCC2 should just be seen as an experiment until there is
 enough done that it actually looks like a usable tool. Even the
 planning is just a fuzzy idea, no concrete plans yet.
I think this should be considered as valid. I'm in favor to have
a branch that could be delivered as an alternative to mcc in mga3
if we reach the goal to have a stable and not complete moving. So
not a replacement but a way to the future.

In the mean while i'm looking for the alternative proposal as well
that could be helpful in any case.

About coding, Steven if you have in mind what you want as ui, we can
ask for the svn branch and start sharing the task. I cannot say i have
24h a day free, more likely some a week (at night for the most) but
what i want to say is you're not alone and the project is big.

About libYui, i got in touch with the main developer, and told me
there is a IRC channel #libyui and git project on github is very
active at the moment, they are very happy to get feedback and
patches from other distros, (they also moved to cmake) but the next
milestone is after yast will be fully adapted to libyui. So we could
consider to have git version of libyui to have all up to date and
fixed.

WDYT?
Angelo
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Re: [Mageia-dev] Security updates - Help needed (also forgot avidemux and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)

2012-07-06 Thread Claire Robinson

On 06/07/12 07:56, Oliver Burger wrote:

Am 06.07.2012 08:18, schrieb AL13N:

Op donderdag 5 juli 2012 23:52:39 schreef Claire Robinson:

With respect Nicolas, you're not on the receiving end.

[...]

allthough i see badly worded(possibly to look offensive) sentences, i
don't
think this is intentional, and more a problem of communication than
something
else. I often have the feeling that certain sentences from french
people come
accross as rude to me. I've come to understand that this is not the
intention,
but somehow related to how french sentences are built and how it's been
translated to english.


The same thing was pointed out to me by a native speaker (as MrsB is),
when I wrote an answer that somehow was rather rude to the receiver.
We have to keep in mind, that most of us are non native speakers and
that all of us have slightly different cultures.
So - although it may be hard - it would be good for the native speakers
among us, not to put every word through a rudeness detector. I know the
Brits are far more courteous then the Germans (and perhaps the French as
well?), so let's go back to fixing bugs and not feeling hurt by people
who might not even be rude from their point of view...

Oliver





This has nothing to do with being rude.

As I said previously, this is being blown wildly out of proportion. In 
reality it centres around one packager and two bugs. In both these bugs 
the packager expected QA to validate updates where one was an xinetd 
service which expressly stated it was disabled by default but in actual 
fact was enabled and in the other a mailing list with a web interface 
which simply couldn't work in it's default configuration.


What it being thrown at us is that we are unreasonably expecting every 
single little bug to be fixed without any common and need to make 
drastic changes to our policies.


We attended the packager meeting on Wednesday to respond to this and 
discuss it. At the meeting it was agreed that we had not changed the way 
we have been doing things since day one and that the right way forward 
was to continue doing what we were doing, with both packagers and QA 
using common sense.


The following day the same far fetched accusations are thrown at us 
again, now escalated to the ML, suggesting we caused a months delay and 
suggesting a solution to the accusation being we begin to 'rubber stamp' 
security updates regardless of if they actually work or not or an 
internet facing service which says it's disabled is actually not so.


In both cases there were simple ways to fix them. In one it was just to 
alter the description (2 minutes) so it didn't say it was disabled and 
in the other it was either to add a suggest or alter the default 
configuration so it didn't require the missing suggest (2 minutes).


We have to use common sense in QA and only ask that, to avoid all this 
unpleasantness in the future, common sense is used by the packager also. 
All this is a reaction to 4 minutes of additional work. That is not 
common sense to me.


If we're expected to validate updates in the state these two bugs 
reached us then we may as well not be here at all.


Claire


[Mageia-dev] Suggests for preload,readahead in task-gnome-minimal

2012-07-06 Thread Olav Vitters
task-gnome-minimal has the following:
Suggests: preload
Suggests: readahead

IMO if something like that is needed, it should not belong in
task-gnome-minimal, but something lowlevel like e.g. systemd.

Even though these are just suggests, I still want to get rid of it.

Any objections?

-- 
Regards,
Olav


Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggests for preload, readahead in task-gnome-minimal

2012-07-06 Thread Sander Lepik

06.07.2012 12:44, Olav Vitters kirjutas:

task-gnome-minimal has the following:
Suggests: preload
Suggests: readahead

IMO if something like that is needed, it should not belong in
task-gnome-minimal, but something lowlevel like e.g. systemd.

Even though these are just suggests, I still want to get rid of it.

Any objections?


Nop..

--
Sander



Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggests for preload, readahead in task-gnome-minimal

2012-07-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 06/07/12 10:44 did gyre and gimble:
 task-gnome-minimal has the following:
 Suggests: preload
 Suggests: readahead
 
 IMO if something like that is needed, it should not belong in
 task-gnome-minimal, but something lowlevel like e.g. systemd.
 
 Even though these are just suggests, I still want to get rid of it.
 
 Any objections?

Strangely enough I was thinking about the separate preload and readahead
packages recently.

I suspect the systemd-readahead stuff is where we want to consolidate. I
was actually thinking of just dropping those other packages completely,
but I've not fully read up on it yet.

Col


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colin(at)mageia.org
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Re: [Mageia-dev] Security updates - Help needed (also forgot avidemux and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)

2012-07-06 Thread AL13N
 On 06/07/12 07:56, Oliver Burger wrote:
[...]
 This has nothing to do with being rude.

IIUC, a small bit of it is related in 2 instances (from my pov):
 - QA team being ignored in their question
 - packager being doubted by QA team

(in some or other forms, both of these can be seen as rude)

for one more perceived rudeness, look below.

 As I said previously, this is being blown wildly out of proportion.

very true

 In
 reality it centres around one packager and two bugs. In both these bugs
 the packager expected QA to validate updates where one was an xinetd
 service which expressly stated it was disabled by default but in actual
 fact was enabled and in the other a mailing list with a web interface
 which simply couldn't work in it's default configuration.

 What it being thrown at us is that we are unreasonably expecting every
 single little bug to be fixed without any common and need to make
 drastic changes to our policies.

i did mention it would best for packagers (and i think it's in policy)
that they would give reproducer tests for validation (perhaps it should be
extended to getting the package working as well)

 We attended the packager meeting on Wednesday to respond to this and
 discuss it. At the meeting it was agreed that we had not changed the way
 we have been doing things since day one and that the right way forward
 was to continue doing what we were doing, with both packagers and QA
 using common sense.

IIUC, not 100% the same, security updates should get pushed without delay
even if there's an additional problem (unless regressions). The idea
behind this, is that security updates are important for people who are
already running it. and since they are running it, they aren't likely to
have the problems that QA had.

I have no trouble having contacting packager and ask for fix, but
ultimately, for if for whatever reason the packager isn't there, i still
think it should be pushed.

 The following day the same far fetched accusations are thrown at us
 again, now escalated to the ML, suggesting we caused a months delay and
 suggesting a solution to the accusation being we begin to 'rubber stamp'
 security updates regardless of if they actually work or not or an
 internet facing service which says it's disabled is actually not so.

This is also perceived rudeness:
- The packager's pov is that QA should have pushed it anyway.
- personally, i'm not certain that this is the intention of the person who
wrote it.

The problem in this exact case, is that in fact, IMHO, the suggested
modification, wasn't needed; allthough it might be better, it's ultimately
not needed, because having a mailinglist, you need to configure alot of
things anyway. and perhaps it's not even required to use CGI::Fast
(depending on configuration). arguably it's perhaps better to have this as
suggest.

The packager's pov is that QA team was stating a undiscussable MUST that
this dependency should be required (not suggested; which is better), while
in effect, afterwards, it appears that this dependency is a separate and
not even a major bug (easy workaround).

But, QA team doesn't know alot about this. so i'm not speaking about
faults here.
Also packaging team must realize that QA team doesn't know alot about
this. They are just doing what they think is right.

but if packaging team says that this isn't really a major requirement for
this security bug, then again, QA team should understand this too.


 In both cases there were simple ways to fix them. In one it was just to
 alter the description (2 minutes) so it didn't say it was disabled and
 in the other it was either to add a suggest or alter the default
 configuration so it didn't require the missing suggest (2 minutes).

That is also true.

 We have to use common sense in QA and only ask that, to avoid all this
 unpleasantness in the future, common sense is used by the packager also.
 All this is a reaction to 4 minutes of additional work. That is not
 common sense to me.

 If we're expected to validate updates in the state these two bugs
 reached us then we may as well not be here at all.

no offense meant, but in retrospect, it appears those new bugs in those 2
bug reports (to me) aren't that major at all.

but I agree that it isn't easy to test, and thus packager should be
accomodating that.


[Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Marja van Waes

Hi everyone,

Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.

Unfortunately, everyone in the cc of the bugs will receive the ping, too.

The only bugs that'll be pinged are that
* were assigned more than 2 weeks ago
* where the assignee didn't do anything to the bug since more than two 
weeks ago
* where the assignee didn't confirm the bug was assigned correctly by 
either setting status to ASSIGNED or by putting OK on the whiteboard and.


Bugs that are assigned to QA or Bug Squad won't be pinged, nor will 
Reporter = Assignee ones.


Enhancement requests and minor bugs won't be pinged either, nor will 
bugs that have the TRACKER or UPSTREAM keyword.


If you're the assignee and you don't have a clue whether the bug was 
assigned correctly or not, please put NEEDHELP on the whiteboard.


If you know it was *not* assigned correctly, please reassign to either 
the correct person or to Bug Squad, and explain.


Set status to ASSIGNED or put OK on the whiteboard if you don't want to 
be pinged in the same bug for the same thing again.


Cheers,
marja



Re: [Mageia-dev] Security updates - Help needed (also forgot avidemux and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)

2012-07-06 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Le 06/07/2012 13:19, AL13N a écrit :

On 06/07/12 07:56, Oliver Burger wrote:

[...]

This has nothing to do with being rude.


IIUC, a small bit of it is related in 2 instances (from my pov):
  - QA team being ignored in their question
  - packager being doubted by QA team

(in some or other forms, both of these can be seen as rude)
No, what is really rude for me is Claire's agressive reaction here, two 
times in a row.


I don't ask for flowers and congratulations everytime I interact with 
anyone else asking for help, I'd just like avoid feeling assaulted for 
giving QA team too much work while volonteering to contribute fixing a 
stalled issue. Especially on a public media such as bugzilla.


Now, as I've been advised to use common sense, I'll just shut up, 
instead of adding more fuel to the fire, and I'll try to select more 
wisely my personal involvement in the future.

--
BOFH excuse #229:

wrong polarity of neutron flow


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.

Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?


Re: [Mageia-dev] Security updates - Help needed (also forgot avidemux and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)

2012-07-06 Thread Claire Robinson

On 06/07/12 12:57, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

Le 06/07/2012 13:19, AL13N a écrit :

On 06/07/12 07:56, Oliver Burger wrote:

[...]

This has nothing to do with being rude.


IIUC, a small bit of it is related in 2 instances (from my pov):
- QA team being ignored in their question
- packager being doubted by QA team

(in some or other forms, both of these can be seen as rude)

No, what is really rude for me is Claire's agressive reaction here, two
times in a row.

I don't ask for flowers and congratulations everytime I interact with
anyone else asking for help, I'd just like avoid feeling assaulted for
giving QA team too much work while volonteering to contribute fixing a
stalled issue. Especially on a public media such as bugzilla.

Now, as I've been advised to use common sense, I'll just shut up,
instead of adding more fuel to the fire, and I'll try to select more
wisely my personal involvement in the future.


The stalled issue was actually a packaging issue Guillaume. We don't 
expect to be held responsible for those in QA or have to send flowers 
when they are resolved. Perhaps that is where this misunderstanding 
stems from.


Claire


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Marja van Waes

On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl  wrote:

Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.


Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?


Yes, that would be a lot better.

I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932

https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932



Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl  wrote:

 Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.

 Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
 whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
 notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?

 Yes, that would be a lot better.

 I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932

 https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932

Ok, but there a daily reminder is nonsense.

A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Marja van Waes

On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl  wrote:

On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:


On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl   wrote:


Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.


Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?


Yes, that would be a lot better.

I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932

https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932


Ok, but there a daily reminder is nonsense.



Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)


A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.


Waiting one month to find out whether a bug was assigned correctly is 
too long, in my opinion, unless the assignee is busy gathering enough 
information to be able to tell.


I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a 
confirmation that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except 
when the assignee shows activity in the report.


If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on 
the whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this 
search again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.







Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.

 Unfortunately, everyone in the cc of the bugs will receive the ping, too.

 The only bugs that'll be pinged are that
 * were assigned more than 2 weeks ago
 * where the assignee didn't do anything to the bug since more than two weeks
 ago
 * where the assignee didn't confirm the bug was assigned correctly by either
 setting status to ASSIGNED or by putting OK on the whiteboard and.

 Bugs that are assigned to QA or Bug Squad won't be pinged, nor will Reporter
 = Assignee ones.

 Enhancement requests and minor bugs won't be pinged either, nor will bugs
 that have the TRACKER or UPSTREAM keyword.

 If you're the assignee and you don't have a clue whether the bug was
 assigned correctly or not, please put NEEDHELP on the whiteboard.

 If you know it was *not* assigned correctly, please reassign to either the
 correct person or to Bug Squad, and explain.

 Set status to ASSIGNED or put OK on the whiteboard if you don't want to be
 pinged in the same bug for the same thing again.

Not sure how useful it is.
I have received 25 emails so far in today's ping (and they keep coming).
Some of them because I am assignee, some because I am reporter, some I am in CC.
I probably need to take action on few of them but I currently don't
have time to check which ones so it is likely that I will end up
ignoring them all...


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Marja van Waes

On 06/07/2012 15:17, Pascal Terjan wrote:

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl  wrote:




Not sure how useful it is.
I have received 25 emails so far in today's ping (and they keep coming).
Some of them because I am assignee, some because I am reporter, some I am in CC.
I probably need to take action on few of them but I currently don't
have time to check which ones so it is likely that I will end up
ignoring them all...



We'll remind you and everybody else who hasn't got time now :)

However, hopefully next time with mails that only the assignees will receive


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
(removed -discuss from the discussion)

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
 Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)

No, it works in the current setup.

 A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
 query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
 then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.

 Waiting one month to find out whether a bug was assigned correctly is too
 long, in my opinion, unless the assignee is busy gathering enough
 information to be able to tell.

 I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a confirmation
 that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
 shows activity in the report.

 If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on the
 whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
 again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.

We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
checked out of the query.

Shall we try that?


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Marja van Waes

On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:

(removed -discuss from the discussion)

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl  wrote:

On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)


No, it works in the current setup.





I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a confirmation
that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
shows activity in the report.

If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on the
whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.


We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
checked out of the query.

Shall we try that?


Well, if you replace bi-monthly by twice a month (that seems to be 
what you mean), then: yes, please!


Bi-monthly doesn't have a fixed meaning 
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bi-monthly ;)


Thanks a lot, Romain :)


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Vinet Raphaël
Le vendredi 6 juillet 2012 17:46:16 Marja van Waes a écrit :
 On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
  (removed -discuss from the discussion)
  
  On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waesmarj...@xs4all.nl  wrote:
  On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
  Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)
  
  No, it works in the current setup.
  
  I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a
  confirmation
  that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
  shows activity in the report.
  
  If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on
  the
  whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
  again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.
  
  We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
  and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
  month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
  checked out of the query.
  
  Shall we try that?
 
 Well, if you replace bi-monthly by twice a month (that seems to be
 what you mean), then: yes, please!
 
 Bi-monthly doesn't have a fixed meaning
 http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bi-monthly ;)
 
 Thanks a lot, Romain :)

Hi,

Please continue these mass ping until the solution for filtering problems in 
kmail ... we will see if it is a good solution :p

A+
Raph


[Mageia-dev] Changes in chromium

2012-07-06 Thread D.Morgan
Hi,


please report in from now chromium is broken ( compared to before ).

I am patching to use system libs instead of bundled ones ( i do one by one )

regards;
D.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Changes in chromium

2012-07-06 Thread Vinet Raphaël
Le vendredi 6 juillet 2012 18:04:57 D.Morgan a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 
 please report in from now chromium is broken ( compared to before ).
 
 I am patching to use system libs instead of bundled ones ( i do one by one )
 
 regards;
 D.
Hi,


Maybe it explains what I read before ? 
In the sense that it is difficult to built packages for Chromium and so it is 
'normal' that it is 'often outdated' in comparaison with Chrome ?

A+
Raph


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Marja van Waes marj...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
 Shall we try that?

 Well, if you replace bi-monthly by twice a month (that seems to be what
 you mean), then: yes, please!

Yes.

Ok, test will go in a few minutes to all current assignees that have
bugs matching your query (I had to duplicate it to my own account).