[Mailman-Developers] Re: How to know the URLs for CURL while getting or modifying the data of mailman 3

2020-04-28 Thread Shashikanth Komandoor
Thank you Mark and Abhilash. Your guidance is much appreciated and helped
me a lot.




On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:42 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 4/25/20 6:16 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:
> > Thank you for your response Stephen.
> >
> > Thanks for giving the URL. I think you mean this one right
> >
> > https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html
> >
> > But that document contains the way to do through the python prompt (>>>)
>
>
> Where you see something like, e.g.,
>
> >>> dump_json('http://localhost:9001/3.0/lists')
>
> in the docs, translate that URL into
>
> http://:8001/3.0/lists
>
> for your curl command.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
> ___
> Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-le...@python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
> Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
>
> Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
>


-- 
Thanks & Regards,
Shashi Kanth.K
9052671936
___
Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9


[Mailman-Developers] Re: How to know the URLs for CURL while getting or modifying the data of mailman 3

2020-04-25 Thread Abhilash Raj
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, at 9:12 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 4/25/20 6:16 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:
> > Thank you for your response Stephen.
> > 
> > Thanks for giving the URL. I think you mean this one right
> > 
> > https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html
> > 
> > But that document contains the way to do through the python prompt (>>>)
> 
> 
> Where you see something like, e.g.,
> 
> >>> dump_json('http://localhost:9001/3.0/lists')
> 
> in the docs, translate that URL into
> 
> http://:8001/3.0/lists
> 
> for your curl command.

This is also documented now at 

  
https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html#helpers

Hopefully this will be more helpful.


> 
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
> ___
> Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-le...@python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
> Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
> 
> Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
>

-- 
  thanks,
  Abhilash Raj (maxking)
___
Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9


[Mailman-Developers] Re: How to know the URLs for CURL while getting or modifying the data of mailman 3

2020-04-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/25/20 6:16 AM, Shashikanth Komandoor wrote:
> Thank you for your response Stephen.
> 
> Thanks for giving the URL. I think you mean this one right
> 
> https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html
> 
> But that document contains the way to do through the python prompt (>>>)


Where you see something like, e.g.,

>>> dump_json('http://localhost:9001/3.0/lists')

in the docs, translate that URL into

http://:8001/3.0/lists

for your curl command.

-- 
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
___
Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9


[Mailman-Developers] Re: How to know the URLs for CURL while getting or modifying the data of mailman 3

2020-04-25 Thread Shashikanth Komandoor
Stephen,

Thank you for your response. I am sorry for getting confused
between two lists mailman-users and mailman-developers. Developers may be
busy and my question may be basic but still there is a space for more
politeness at your end to advice me.

Apart from that, you have given a lot much of useful
information which is really and honestly helpful for me to the maximum
extent. Now I shall take the help of members of mailman-users only.

@mailman-us...@mailman3.org ,

   Team, I have installed Mailman Version 3.3 and running in
production. Our development team developed another application which
requires the access of the REST API and do changes over the MM3 DB
automatically without manual intervention. That application would be
connecting to REST API over http or https protocol

   To achieve this I have enabled the REST API to run at all the IP
addresses of my MM3 Server by editing the
mailman/src/mailman/config/schema.cfg file. I was able to run few commands
like creation of domains, lists, list configuration changes for testing
using the CURL (GET, POST, PATCH, DELTE) and got succeeded.

   But for every operation I need to write a different URL for CURL
command to work. Out of many operations I require, addition of members to a
list and removal of members from a list are most important tasks.

   So, I request herewith, from the URL
https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html, I
could see many URLs but they are executed at python prompt (>>>) only. I
require URLs usable at the CURL command. Is there any way I could generate
the URLs or any where documented regarding the URLs usable with CURL for
the addition and removal of subscribers ?

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:04 PM Stephen J. Turnbull <
turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:

> Shashi,
>
> This whole thread is off-topic for the developers list.  This list is
> for development of Mailman, not for teaching people to use it.  Read
> the whole recommended documentation before you ask busy developers to
> tutor you in very basic things.  There's a mailman-us...@mailman3.org
> list for users to help each other.  All of the Mailman developers who
> might be willing to answer your questions are there as well, but there
> are also many experienced users, some of whom have experimented with
> the REST API who will also help.  Please reply there for further
> help.  (Reply-To is set.)
>
> That said, there are plenty of URLs in the API documentation.  Here's
> a hint: search for "dump_json".  That function takes an URL.  You may
> want https: instead of http: in your URLs, and you may need to change
> the port from 9001, depending on the configuration of your REST
> server.  Try it with simple GET requests for information first, such
> as for domains or lists.  You can also do these requests with an
> ordinary web browser, though I don't know what it will do with the
> JSON-formatted reply.
>
> If you don't have domains and lists configured, I suppose the
> informational requests will come back as empty JSON objects.  It
> should be safe to make them.  You can either use Postorius to
> bootstrap a few example domains, lists, and users, or (the hard way)
> figure out how to POST appropriate requests.  I don't recommend trying
> to update the backend DBMS by hand; the schema is quite complicated.
> I don't know how to use curl to update Mailman's databases.  That
> requires a POST request which I have never done with curl.  The POST
> request needs to be valid JSON.
>
> The more I think about this, the less I think your idea of using curl
> is worthwhile, because formatting JSON requests by hand is going to be
> a real annoyance and a great way to mess up your database with
> spurious information.  You're really going to want programmatic
> support for this.  But that's already all available in Python in the
> Mailman system.
>
> It's up to you, but I feel a responsibility to warn you that using
> curl is not going to be simpler than learning enough Python to do
> these things.
>
> Regards,
>


-- 
Thanks & Regards,
Shashi Kanth.K
9052671936
___
Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9


[Mailman-Developers] Re: How to know the URLs for CURL while getting or modifying the data of mailman 3

2020-04-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Shashi,

This whole thread is off-topic for the developers list.  This list is
for development of Mailman, not for teaching people to use it.  Read
the whole recommended documentation before you ask busy developers to
tutor you in very basic things.  There's a mailman-us...@mailman3.org
list for users to help each other.  All of the Mailman developers who
might be willing to answer your questions are there as well, but there
are also many experienced users, some of whom have experimented with
the REST API who will also help.  Please reply there for further
help.  (Reply-To is set.)

That said, there are plenty of URLs in the API documentation.  Here's
a hint: search for "dump_json".  That function takes an URL.  You may
want https: instead of http: in your URLs, and you may need to change
the port from 9001, depending on the configuration of your REST
server.  Try it with simple GET requests for information first, such
as for domains or lists.  You can also do these requests with an
ordinary web browser, though I don't know what it will do with the
JSON-formatted reply.

If you don't have domains and lists configured, I suppose the
informational requests will come back as empty JSON objects.  It
should be safe to make them.  You can either use Postorius to
bootstrap a few example domains, lists, and users, or (the hard way)
figure out how to POST appropriate requests.  I don't recommend trying
to update the backend DBMS by hand; the schema is quite complicated.
I don't know how to use curl to update Mailman's databases.  That
requires a POST request which I have never done with curl.  The POST
request needs to be valid JSON.

The more I think about this, the less I think your idea of using curl
is worthwhile, because formatting JSON requests by hand is going to be
a real annoyance and a great way to mess up your database with
spurious information.  You're really going to want programmatic
support for this.  But that's already all available in Python in the
Mailman system.

It's up to you, but I feel a responsibility to warn you that using
curl is not going to be simpler than learning enough Python to do
these things.
 
Regards,
___
Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9


[Mailman-Developers] Re: How to know the URLs for CURL while getting or modifying the data of mailman 3

2020-04-25 Thread Shashikanth Komandoor
Thank you for your response Stephen.

Thanks for giving the URL. I think you mean this one right

https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html

But that document contains the way to do through the python prompt (>>>)

I want through curl command. I tried from the time of your earlier mail but
unable to generate the URLs usable with curl command for different purposes
such as subscribing the member to a list or removing a member from a list.

If you still say the above URL is the one which helps me I am unable to
find out the logic to generate the URLs for curl from the content written
for python prompt

Please help with 2 or more examples with out feeling it as risk.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 6:39 PM Stephen J. Turnbull <
turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:

> Shashikanth Komandoor writes:
>
>  >  But I don't know the URLs to be used for the purpose I
> want to
>  > do some thing like I want to add user to list or remove a user from the
>  > list.
>
> I gave you the URL to the relevant docs.  RT Free M.
>
> Steve
>


-- 
Thanks & Regards,
Shashi Kanth.K
9052671936
___
Mailman-Developers mailing list -- mailman-developers@python.org
To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-developers-le...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
Mailman FAQ: https://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Security Policy: https://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9