Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 2.1.12(rc2) backport for Ubuntu Hardy?
On Wed, April 22, 2009 19:12, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: Just a quick query really (and possibly being slightly cheeky asking here...), but have any of you guys backported Mailman 2.1.12 from the Ubuntu Jaunty (or Debian 5) repos - Ubuntu Hardy? I can't seem to find anything with an internet search, and I'd rather not repeat the efforts, if someone's already done it (as it's been quite some time since I last backported something) I have not. I'm not sure who's packaging Mailman for Ubuntu (I might be able to find someone to ask wink), but I could certainly see us providing PPAs for folks who want to run the latest and greatest. I don't have much packaging-fu but if someone wants to volunteer to do the heavily lifting, I'd be happy to twiddle the Launchpad bits. Mailman in Ubuntu is essentially Mailman in Debian: the Ubuntu package is a verbatim copy of the Debian one. Unfortunately our maintenance team currently has the volunteer manpower to just keep up, but not to extend its tasks, so we're not really involving ourselves in extra backporting efforts. (BTW: if anyone on this list is interested in improving the Debian/Ubuntu packaging of Mailman they're welcome to join our team! Contact me to get started) However, I don't think it should be complex to backport it, so I urge you to just try and do it. One catch may be that in the 2.1.12-1 package version we cleaned up a number of old compatibility/upgrading measures for old releases, which may be relevant again if you backport it. But I think you'll encounter it along the way if that's the case. cheers, Thijs ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Developers] mailman 3: webinterface: prototype (PDF)
Greetings, following our discussions at the Pycon 2009 Mailman sprint I've come up with first draft of a/the future mailman 3 web interface. The interface has changed a lot. Changes follow these principles: * Simplify interface * Focus on tasks * Order and sort by task recurrance * Reduce information overflow e.g. by hiding help messages * Show help messages as bubbles when selected by user * Remove instructions on using a web from * Use default button texts e.g. Save instead of Submit your changes See also: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Rest+client I've come up with a paper prototype, which you can download in an annotated PDF by clicking at Mailman webinterface draft at the following location: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Information+Architecture Important The version you can download is _not a design_. It's a grid that creates a structure, puts elements we need on a (HTML) page, orders and groups them following the principles I've outlined above. Please feel free to comment on it and ask questions. I've spent the last 5 days clicking the old interface, thinking and sitting before my current proposal - I just might be blind to my own stupidity or brain dead by now. ;) My goal is to agree on an information architecture, so we can go on and create a design that combines functional requirements and aesthetics. Once we've agreed on a design, we will create HTML templates and then we will put them together with the upcoming REST client. p...@rick -- state of mind Agentur für Kommunikation, Design und Softwareentwicklung http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563 ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9