Re: [Mailman-Users] personalized To-Header
Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 08:12:25PM +0200, Norbert Bollow wrote: When we send out a newsletter, the To-Header is the mailadress of the list. It would be nice if the To-Header would be the adress of the actual recipient, but I dont know if this is possible. It's possible with Qmail and the qmail-verh patch (see http://mailman.cis.to/qmail-verh/ for details) and a minor modification to Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py thnx, any idea for sendmail ? ... and for postfix? Thanks, Jan -- Jan Theofel Fon: +49 (7 11) 48 90 83 - 0 ETES - EDV-Systemhaus GbRFax: +49 (7 11) 48 90 83 - 50 Libanonstrasse 58 A * D-70184 Stuttgart Web: http://www.etes.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Footer disappeared in HTML mails?
Hi All, I found that the footer won't appear in the mails with HTML format or attachment files, is that any way to fix this problem? Regards, Lewis -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
On Mon, 13 May 2002 23:15:44 -0400 (EDT) fuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it would be nice if there was a way to set an option to assume reject as a default for posts to closed lists from non-members without also throwing out subscription requests. Perhaps something in the future for 2.1? That's in the current 2.1 betas. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
On Mon, 13 May 2002 22:39:22 -0400 AerosmithFanClub com List Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herein lies the rub with the mailman program. Let's keep this simple: If you merely wish to complain, please do so somewhere else. We're not interested. If you'd like to help then by all means chime up and we'll do what we can to help. Now pick. Now. Many users have this in a shared server environment... That is not Mailman's target audience, deployment, or particular interest. The fact that it is effectively used that way is gratifying, but that's rather beside the point. Future versions of Mailman will better support such installations, and the current 2.0.10 is far slicker than prior versions, but like all Open Source projects, its a work in progress. There should be options in the admin interface to handle all of this. Thankyou for your excellent analysis. When can we expect your patch to add these features? The 'fix' you offer me for this question is not a fix at all. Ahh. When can we expect your patch to do it properly? Heck bounced messages should NOT default to being stored anyway. There are good reasons for both approaches. When can we expect your patch to make this configurable? The whole purpose of closing a list is to not get crap mail that you dont want. No. That is your purpose, but that is not my purpose for any of the half-dozen closed lists I run, or the purpose of most of the other closed lists I'm a member of. Some. Not all. If I wanted to have to approve mail i would have set it up to be moderated. Which is what Mailman supports, it just extends the semantics of moderation in a manner which is different to Majordomo. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer disappeared in HTML mails?
On Tue, 14 May 2002 11:43:52 +0800 Lewis Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found that the footer won't appear in the mails with HTML format or attachment files, is that any way to fix this problem? Known problem. Fixed in 2.1. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
RE: [Mailman-Users] Help
Just a suggestion. How about hack the CookHeaders.py a bit, remark the line List-Post and remain the lines List-Subscribe and List-Unsubscribe unchanged? This will only remove the List-Post information from the mail header. Lewis At 11:35 PM 5/13/02 -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: With Majordomo there IS nothing to maintain! That was the point I was trying to make. I do understand that it is a case of different strokes for different folks. I have no problem with that what-so-ever. MM is not at all designed for use as a news list. It may well work OK for a discussion list but as far as news list goes it is horrid. I am stuck with all these irrelevant headers that tell folks how to post, etc when in all reality they CANT post. So now people start sending to the list because the list tells them to and I start getting tons of bounced mail. Now I cant turn off the mail bouncing thing, I am FORCED to go manually delete each mail. Oh yeah I can hack the code to make it so that the bounces go away but then people cant subscribe. What good is a list where people cant subscribe. So it is a vicious circle. I do things the way the programmers want them to be done and thats all there is to it. It is very frustrating to see software that is so close to being excellent but because of a few minor issues is almost unusable. I am sure you follow what I am saying here. At 11:15 PM 5/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: we switched from majordomo and our listowners and thier lists have both commented how much easier it is to do administration and they feel the interface is user friendly. it would be nice if there was a way to set an option to assume reject as a default for posts to closed lists from non-members without also throwing out subscription requests. Perhaps something in the future for 2.1? Thanks Fuz -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] is private mail being redirected here?
I am seeing what appears to be a series of one-sided answer posts from [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoting messages that have not previously appeared on the mailman-users list. If this person is redirecting private responses to the list without the correspondent's permission, that's considered rude Net behavior and they should cease. If there is some other technical explanation, perhaps it's a Mailman issue. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] newbie: 2.0.10 not creating lists correctly?
Hi ho, I am trying to love mailman. First i had to upgrade python, i'm sticking w/my old gcc and libc5. Python 2.2.1 (#1, May 9 2002, 18:12:32) [GCC egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release)] on linux2 mailman 2.0.10 ./configure --prefix=/home/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/mailman --with-cgi-gid=web --with-cgi-gid=nogroup oh, and i'm using qmail. So when i type `newlist test` i get a symlink created to nowhere. Is that correct? /var/mailman/archives/public/test - /var/mailman/archives/private/test I am also having qmail issues, i.e. mail sent to the list, list-admin, or list-control goes into a black hole; but i'm guessing that this problem should be solved first. No, that's not quite right. Mail goes into mailman; i see 2 pending subscriptions, but mailman is unable to send mail out. I see an identd to the mail target and then a bounce line May 10 01:27:00 2002 (4499) Test: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - first I also get a post failure, probably related to the missing private/test May 10 01:27:00 2002 (4499) post to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1321, 1 failures Thanks -- [duke:/var/mailman/archives] ls -alR total 4 drwxrwsr-x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 9 22:50 . drwxrwsrwx 10 mailman mailman 1024 May 9 22:50 .. drwxrws--x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 private drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 public private: total 4 drwxrws--x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 . drwxrwsr-x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 9 22:50 .. drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 10 01:26 test.mbox drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 test1.mbox private/test.mbox: total 2 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 10 01:26 . drwxrws--x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 .. private/test1.mbox: total 2 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 . drwxrws--x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 .. public: total 2 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 . drwxrwsr-x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 9 22:50 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman34 May 10 01:26 test - /var/mailman/archives/private/test lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman39 May 10 01:26 test.mbox - /var/mailman/archives/private/test.mbox lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman35 May 11 18:24 test1 - /var/mailman/archives/private/test1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman40 May 11 18:24 test1.mbox - /var/mailman/archives/private/test1.mbox [duke:/var/mailman/archives] -- -- _,-- `-._-___ _'--''--'_ //_| | \[EMAIL PROTECTED] / | |_\\ (_|_|__= Guilford CT +1.203.458.0389 =__|_|_) _\_=___ http://www.buckosoft.com ___=_/_ \/-(o)-~~-(o)-~~-(o)-`--'-(o)-~~-(o)-~~-(o)-\/ Early Net Poetry: Wustl, Wustl, ERR RIP MIT BOOTp, BIND Wustl -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
RE: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue
I wonder if having an option to bounce the message with an error that looks like the address is invalid when the sender isn't subscribed to the list would help with spam attempts. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eric A. Meyer Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue At 16:49 -0600 5/13/02, Mike Avery wrote: However, any list that has any real presence will be subjected to any number of attacks. Once the email address is known, spammers will try to send to it. Boy, isn't that the truth. Which reminds me, I was wondering if there are any thoughts of allowing for a condensed view of the messages that have lodged in the spam filter? Something like a table that shows the subject, sender, the reason the message got caught, and the options available (Approve, Reject, etc.). That would make clearing out actual spam sent to active lists a lot simpler. Note that I'm looking for this option in an environment where I can't hack the source code or data files of Mailman; in other words, I'm looking for a planned addition to the Web interface. I'd be happy to mock up what kind of layout I was envisioning, if that would be helpful. -- Eric A. Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/ Author, Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide and CSS 2.0 Programmer's Reference http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/books/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailma n-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
RE: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue
At 8:32 -0400 5/14/02, Robert Wilson wrote: I wonder if having an option to bounce the message with an error that looks like the address is invalid when the sender isn't subscribed to the list would help with spam attempts. Hmmm, perhaps-- although my fear would be that the spambots would get rewritten to catch such pseudo-error bounce messages and then harvest them. That might be a bit paranoid on my part. I have a situation where, having a list with 1800+ subscribed addresses, I see mostly spam but occasionally somebody who accidentally posts from the wrong address. So I'd like to be able to review the messages that get caught and deal with them myself. The problem I face is that the Web interface, in providing a commendable amount of information about each blocked message, makes it a lot harder to quickly clear out the spam in order to concentrate on the list-member messages that got stopped for some reason. (Another one I see relatively often is HTML-formatted messages, which I don't allow on the list.) So I'd been thinking that having a collapsed view would help with that. On the other hand, if 2.1 will offer options to default non-subscriber messages to discard, as a recent message implied 2.1 would, or even just drop them silently without ever telling me, that might be better. -- Eric A. Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/ Author, Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide and CSS 2.0 Programmer's Reference http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/books/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Approved header option
In mailman 2.1b.1 How do you use the Approved:password to send your message to a moderated list. I'm the owner and I have the Emergency Moderation turned on and I what to send my message through. I don't want to use the Pending Administrative requests web interface to do this. I know in majordomo you can do this by adding Approved:password to the email message and sending it back through. How is this done in Mailman. -- # Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 # Everything must point to him. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Newbie - many questions and ideas but mostly how to kill the SPAM
Hi, first post here - so be gentle. Mailman is great by the way - I just want some ideas to make my life easier! Background. I am a list-manager (I believe it is the right term) I have delegated to me a couple of lists from the gnu.org mailman installation (info-gnu-chess, bug-gnu-chess, they use a fairly recent version of 2 I believe but not bang up to date last time I checked). Unlike many Mailman users these are both open lists (i.e. anyone can report bugs!), and have various NNTP gateway facilities to gnu.chess. We have a spam double whammy - newsgroups and a well known and widely spammed email addresses for both lists. We also prefer to allow attachments, usually patches for testing. The lists are very low volume - so the noise to signal ratio is tending to zero! So I get a lot of spam, and recently a lot of Klez viruses (probably approaching 3 or 4 per list per day), and if not caught (we have a temporary 10KB message limit) about 3 MDaemon 'your message was infected' responses to every message. Questions and Comments. 1. Can a regular expression be fatal rather than just requiring moderation. I have a number of rules with 100% hit rate - such as trapping all messages flagged as coming from open relays. But the mail admins refuse to drop such mail at the MTA level alas. 2. How would I write a regular expression in Mailman Privacy options to trap Korean characters in the subject line, use of 8 bit ASCII characters, or even all subjects containing Ä (Capital A umlaut) would be sufficient. 3. Does better documentation on the regular expression handling exist, currently only one example is given for a from: header. Maybe I'm being thick, but regex regular expressions are pretty involved and depend on things like NLS, and I'm fairly sure that Mailman is doing a simplified versions. Or must I read the source? 4. Does anywhere collect and share good anti-spam regular expressions ? Enhancements? 5. When moderating a big list of messages an optional short view would be nice. The current scheme is unwieldy when you have 120 messages to delete. An HTML table with radio button reject control, sender, subject, date, reason (abbreviated if need be). Or just a toggle to drop the big text fields? Anything that gets use more than 1.5 messages per screen. 10 or 20 per screen would be really nice! 6. Including the REGEX in the rejection reason would aid writing good regex. 7. A regex test would be handy - although I guess you'd have to apply it to archive messages or some such to get test data. 8. A date sanity check - moderate or bounce misdated messages (I guess I can use REGEX if I'm clever), a lot of the spam has dates in the future or distant past. We already have archives to 2034 and not much of it is useful. Anything more than two days ahead of current system time is clearly junk IMHO ;) Any other hints on killing spam/klez/bounces appreciated. Simon -- Don't get me started on intuitive. You know what's intuitive? Fear of heights. Everything else we call intuitive, such as walking or using a pencil took years of practice. - Don Norman -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie - many questions and ideas but mostlyhow to kill the SPAM
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 09:05, Simon Waters wrote: Questions and Comments. snip 3. Does better documentation on the regular expression handling exist, currently only one example is given for a from: header. Maybe I'm being thick, but regex regular expressions are pretty involved and depend on things like NLS, and I'm fairly sure that Mailman is doing a simplified versions. Or must I read the source? Simon, This information may help with you with Python re module questions. http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/re-syntax.html http://py-howto.sourceforge.net/regex/regex.html 4. Does anywhere collect and share good anti-spam regular expressions ? There is an re example in the Mailman FAQ 3.10. http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.010.htp -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Web-based list archive problem
Hi, A quick question that may be answered elsewhere, and if so I apologize. In the Web-based list archive, any HTML tags that are included in the subject line of a message get sent to the browser as HTML, and so start opening elements like input, pre, or inserting hrs. It would be a very good idea to translate the HTML angle-bracket characters to lt; gt; (or the numeric equivalents) at a minimum-- ampersands should probably get the same treatment. As things are now, someone could post a message with a subject line containing a 'script' element that points to a security-exploiting piece of JS somewhere, thus making that month's archive into a trojan horse. -- Eric A. Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/ Author, Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide and CSS 2.0 Programmer's Reference http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/books/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] is private mail being redirected here?
They are not one sided conversations. The discussion was in reply to a question that I asked on the list. IMHO it is proper to continue posting to the list. In fact the undesired behavior is to take a list discussion private. Questions that are asked that relate to the general topic of the list should stay there. Most often if there is a question by one subscriber then others on the list would have the same or similar questions. keeping the discussion on the list gives all subscribers benefit of the answer, etc. However if the reply one is giving is one that is an ad hominem matter then the reply should not have been made in he first place, It is not an issue of whether it belongs on the list or not. So your beef is with the folks who choose not to answer a list post on the list, not with the people who keep posts where they belong. Thanks... At 04:53 AM 5/14/2002 -0400, you wrote: I am seeing what appears to be a series of one-sided answer posts from [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoting messages that have not previously appeared on the mailman-users list. If this person is redirecting private responses to the list without the correspondent's permission, that's considered rude Net behavior and they should cease. If there is some other technical explanation, perhaps it's a Mailman issue. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host
Hi When i run newlist it does not prompt for which virtual_domain the list is for. I am using VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=1 but it creates the lists under DEFAULT_HOST_NAME with DEFAULT_URL Looks like another hack needed to make it useable under virtual domains. Mark -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host
On Tue, 14 May 2002 17:42:07 +0100 Support Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi When i run newlist it does not prompt for which virtual_domain the list is for. I am using VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=1 but it creates the lists under DEFAULT_HOST_NAME with DEFAULT_URL Looks like another hack needed to make it useable under virtual domains. Mark Mark, I was confused by that at first too. However, going to General Options, Host name this list prefers and the following question, you can change the virtual host for an individual list. -- Raquel Be yourself. Who else is better qualified? --Frank J. Giblin II -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Using MM2.0.10, Moderated messages get stuck
Running MM2.0.10, Python 1.5.2 and Roxen Challenger 1.3.x When I get several messages in the same queue for the same moderated mailing list, the messages get stuck. Using the Web Interface (un-modified), breaks the CGI scripting with a File Not Found. When only a couple of e-mails are in the queue, the system works fine. A) Any ideas on how to fix web-interface B) Any way of manually releasing these files C) Any way to move out messages, and reconstruct request.db w/o re-sending all the messages. Thanks! Prof. Wayne Spivak SBA * ConsultingR - Systems for Business Accounting SBA.NET.WEBR - Internet World Wide Web Consulting divisions of SBA * Consulting, Ltd. 2711 Bellmore Avenue, Bellmore, New York 11710-4319 Tel: 516-221-3306 Fax: 516-221-7129 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sbanetweb.com or http://www.sbaconsulting.com http://www.sbaconsulting.com/press/ -- Published Articles -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer disappeared in HTML mails?
On Tue, 14 May 2002 17:05:55 +0800 Lewis Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's good to heard the problem was being fixed in 2.1, but unfortunately the mailman running on my machine is 2.0.10! Any patch or fix for the current stage? Nope, and unlikely to be. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] RH 73 Mailman
Everything's there - works fine for me. It doesn't actually store the lists under html (I don't think) - did you do ALL the configuration? There's aliasing going on in the httpd.conf file to point to the mailman stuff even though it's not physically located under the html folder. Check the RPM info for a step-by- step what to do. Jim Hale --- Jim Kathy's Website Collection http://hale.dyndns.org Quoting Jim Millard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did RH leave something out of their distribution? I have installed the Mailman that comes on their disks. When I create a new list, no proper links to the list are set. I set my domain in the mm_cfg.py file and get a proper looking URL in the notification message. I just get a 404 as there is no mailman dir under /var/www/html (the main directory for apache under RH.) -- Regards, Jim Millard Sr. Software Engineer Pioneer Digital Technologies, Inc. == I think they used to call them transistor units. Montgomery - Scott Stardate 3131.9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie - many questions and ideas but mostly how to kill the SPAM
J C Lawrence wrote:
2. How would I write a regular expression in Mailman Privacy options
to trap Korean characters in the subject line, use of 8 bit ASCII
characters, or even all subjects containing Ä (Capital A umlaut) would
be sufficient.
[^A-Z^0-9^~^!^@^#^\$^%^\^^\*^\(^\)^_^\+^,^\^.^/^\\^:^;^\'^\]?
while we're at it, sometimes wrong charsets are in this =20=FE=XY
encoding, and you won't catch those with this filter.
i tried Subject:.*(=..){3,} , but it ate all messages (with old python
1.5). is anyone using similar repetitive expressions successfully ?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host
Hi Only problem with that is when you create and don't suppress the admin email then the admin gets wrong url and addresses. Mark - Original Message - From: Raquel Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host On Tue, 14 May 2002 17:42:07 +0100 Support Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi When i run newlist it does not prompt for which virtual_domain the list is for. I am using VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=1 but it creates the lists under DEFAULT_HOST_NAME with DEFAULT_URL Looks like another hack needed to make it useable under virtual domains. Mark Mark, I was confused by that at first too. However, going to General Options, Host name this list prefers and the following question, you can change the virtual host for an individual list. -- Raquel Be yourself. Who else is better qualified? --Frank J. Giblin II -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Weekly digest
I have been using MM 2.0.8 for a coupleof months now and aI am very satisfied with it. I have 2 questions: 1- I haven't found the way to make a list send its digest weekly instead of daily. Is this an option or is it fixed? 2- When is 2.1 coming out? Thanks, Maurice -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie - many questions and ideas but mostly how to kill the SPAM
On Tue, 14 May 2002 19:39:46 +0200 nettings iso-8859-1 wrote: ...sometimes wrong charsets are in this =20=FE=XY encoding... ie Quoted-printable -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] qrunner lock
Hmmm, My lists stopped last night. This was in the qrunner log: May 14 16:29:01 2002 (11337) Could not acquire qrunner lock I have upgraded to Python 2.2.1 Downloaded, configured, make install, mailman-2.0.10 And I still get the error. I have removed all the files from /home/mailman/qfiles and /home/mailman/locks and it seems OK but what could the cause be? Simon -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
RE: [Mailman-Users] RH 73 Mailman
Jim, Thank you for your response. I had overlooked the README.REDHAT. Having done that I am still confused. Mailman sent me a message telling me to administer my test list at this URL http://jupiter/mailman/admin/test (This should point to /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin/test) I have the include in the httpd.conf file and restarted apache. There is just no file there as /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin is a script not a directory. Is this an error in the message? I don't think so as trying the call by replacing the last / with a space to make test and argument to the script does not work either. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you all. -- Regards, Jim Millard Sr. Software Engineer Pioneer Digital Technologies, Inc. == I think they used to call them transistor units. Montgomery - Scott Stardate 3131.9 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Hale Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:13 AM To: Jim Millard Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] RH 73 Mailman Everything's there - works fine for me. It doesn't actually store the lists under html (I don't think) - did you do ALL the configuration? There's aliasing going on in the httpd.conf file to point to the mailman stuff even though it's not physically located under the html folder. Check the RPM info for a step-by- step what to do. Jim Hale --- Jim Kathy's Website Collection http://hale.dyndns.org Quoting Jim Millard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did RH leave something out of their distribution? I have installed the Mailman that comes on their disks. When I create a new list, no proper links to the list are set. I set my domain in the mm_cfg.py file and get a proper looking URL in the notification message. I just get a 404 as there is no mailman dir under /var/www/html (the main directory for apache under RH.) -- Regards, Jim Millard Sr. Software Engineer Pioneer Digital Technologies, Inc. == I think they used to call them transistor units. Montgomery - Scott Stardate 3131.9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
RE: [Mailman-Users] RH 73 Mailman
Lemmie check on that when I get home (in about 3 hours) - if you don't get a better response by then, I'll check my config files. :) All I know is that I WAS running Redhat 7.2, installed Postfix, Mailman etc manually and then redid the machine using 7.3 (which had all NEWER versions of the same programs) - since I had just done the configs a week before with the older versions, it only took me about 15 mins to get everything back up and going again and I flew thru them since I decided to do the RH 7.3 install from scratch and not an upgrade. Jim Hale --- Jim Kathy's Website Collection http://hale.dyndns.org Quoting Jim Millard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim, Thank you for your response. I had overlooked the README.REDHAT. Having done that I am still confused. Mailman sent me a message telling me to administer my test list at this URL http://jupiter/mailman/admin/test (This should point to /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin/test) I have the include in the httpd.conf file and restarted apache. There is just no file there as /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin is a script not a directory. Is this an error in the message? I don't think so as trying the call by replacing the last / with a space to make test and argument to the script does not work either. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you all. -- Regards, Jim Millard Sr. Software Engineer Pioneer Digital Technologies, Inc. == I think they used to call them transistor units. Montgomery - Scott Stardate 3131.9 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Hale Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:13 AM To: Jim Millard Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] RH 73 Mailman Everything's there - works fine for me. It doesn't actually store the lists under html (I don't think) - did you do ALL the configuration? There's aliasing going on in the httpd.conf file to point to the mailman stuff even though it's not physically located under the html folder. Check the RPM info for a step-by- step what to do. Jim Hale --- Jim Kathy's Website Collection http://hale.dyndns.org Quoting Jim Millard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did RH leave something out of their distribution? I have installed the Mailman that comes on their disks. When I create a new list, no proper links to the list are set. I set my domain in the mm_cfg.py file and get a proper looking URL in the notification message. I just get a 404 as there is no mailman dir under /var/www/html (the main directory for apache under RH.) -- Regards, Jim Millard Sr. Software Engineer Pioneer Digital Technologies, Inc. == I think they used to call them transistor units. Montgomery - Scott Stardate 3131.9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Change localhost.localdomain in /mailman/listinfo header?
Hi I think you will find you need to use DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'your_domain_here.net' in mm_ cfg.py (add at last section as per comments in that file.) I however have hacked admin and listinfo to show [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a few more bits to tidy up but mailman is getting close to my solution to virtual list. Mark - Original Message - From: Sharkey, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Change localhost.localdomain in /mailman/listinfo header? Hi All, I've managed to successfully install Mailman and configure it to work with Postfix virtual domains. One part seems to have me stumped, however. In the /mailman/listinfo and /mailman/admin pages, there is a link that says questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something like that. WHERE do I change that localhost.localdomain? I've grepped for that string, and it only appears in Defaults.py, but I have overridden that in mm_cfg.py, yet it persists. It's not list-specific - I think it's part of MM-Subscribe-Start or some thing like that in the listinfo.html template. Any suggestions would be welcomed! Thanks -- Scott Sharkey, Sr. Developer Document Management System Children's Research Institute -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] New High Performance Installation
Hello list! We've recently taken on a new client who has a very heavy list.I am wondering if anyone can shed some feedback on whether MailMan is the right answer for this! (the client is currently using ezmlm but I am trying to move away from that) The list volume is approx 400,000 emails daily. Twice a month, this will jump to 700,000 a day.These will be html and text messages - outgoing only. The hardware that this will run on is: PIII 1.3Ghz dual CPU (512KB L2 cache), 512MB PC133 ECC Registered (1x512), 2x18GB Ultra160 1rpm (RAID 1 configuration), 32MB cache high-performance Mylex AcceleRAID controller (A170), Tyan Thunder LE-T S2518UNG (Intel ServerWorks ServerSet III chipset), CD-ROM drive, dual 100Mb/s FE, VGA, Dual-channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI controller, 400W power supply Is anyone familiar with a MailMan installation doing this type of volume or does anyone have any advice on this install. Thanks in advance! - Jamie Penner Nisa Internet Technologies Inc. Nanaimo, BC Canada EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.nisa.com Phone: 250-751- Fax: 250-758-3511 - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Looping bug: Is it fixed?
My hosting company is running version 2.0.8. I've encountered a problem where email sent to the administrator for the list (i.e., me) goes into a loop that finally gets detected and killed but not before I get flooded with copies. This only happens with the admin account, not to email sent to the list itself. Is this fixed in 2.1? Or in a subsequent patch? Or is this an error on my part. Thanks Stephen -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
RE: [Mailman-Users] Help
Why not use Majordomo then??? You seem to like it a lot Mike --- Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) http://www.warlock.web.za/ The software said Windows95 or better... ...so I got Linux On Mon, 13 May 2002, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: Well bully for you. Its just fine that you like it. I like it as well just wish that it was not such a pain in the butt to do anything other than the EXACT way the programmers dictate that they be done. The fact is that the software is nit flexible at all. If you know anything about programming other than being able to spout technobabble you will know what I mean by that and that I am 100% accurate in saying it. Keep in mind that pure numbers has no relation what so ever with quality or anything else. If such a relationship did exist then AOL would be the best software ever to hit the net and cockroaches would be the most intelligent species on the face of the Earth. Mailman is not even close to as flexible and easy to use as Majordomo. You don't have to worry about all these FORCED options that Mailman has. You don't have to keep track of all kinds of web pages that are not even needed to run a mailing list. You don't have to hack your system every time you want to set up a list option. All you need to do is set a single config file and run your list spam free for years. Of course if you are a anal retentive power junkie who has to feel like you control aspect of a simple mailing list (as if was ever making any difference to the operations thereof) you can add all these absurd FORCED passwords, headers, queues of unrequested mail, etc. You don't have to put up with any of that sort of junk with majordomo. (BTW the hack you suggested in the FAQ is asinine. It also deletes all subscription requests from making it to the admin. Your suggestions is akin to suggesting that one burn down their house because a light bulb is burnt out. If the programmers are so thin skinned that they cannot handle someone pointing out shortcoming in heir code then they need to find other work. It comes with the territory. When you release code you will get feedback that with at least some frequency does not gloss over everything and pretend that the said code is absolutely perfect. :) Enjoy! At 10:49 PM 5/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: Many of us love Mailman, and have been using it for what it was designed for, with whatever assumptions the developer(s) had in mind, for quite some time. Considering that the software is Open Source, and that the developer(s) has not charged you for it's use, or the owners/administrators of the server you are using, you've got quite a damn good deal! I suppose you could learn some programming and develop your own list that works perfectly for you, and you could ASS-U-ME for only your needs, and no one elses. Or you could use any one of the other commercial programs that are available, and pay some big bucks to do so. You might even get exactly what you want, too. As far as comparing Mailman to Majordomo, Mailman in my opinion is way superior. But you do have options. You could find a hosting company that offers Majordomo. It's a pain, I know, but then, that might be easier for you in the long run, and then the developers who offered this software for no cost and made it available to you and your server's owner wouldn't need to read silly words that are in effect, insulting. Perhaps the biggest Ass is, in fact, you. Herein lies the rub with the mailman program. The programmers ASS-U-ME that everyone using the software as full access to the server on which it is run. Many users have this in a shared server environment and these wonderful patches to make up for short comings in the software are not an alternative. The software basically is not too bad. The fact there is very little that a list owner can set up to his liking without hacking a lot of places is troubling. All of this type of things should not even be an issue. There should be options in the admin interface to handle all of this. Majordomo is SO simple and straight forward. All you do is set a single config file and bang you are on the way. With this you have to hack here to fix this and there to fix that so that eventually you have no clue what all has ben done! The 'fix' you offer me for this question is not a fix at all. It is merely a cover up. The messages are still queued up and stored. All that happens is that a cron job nukes them. Heck bounced messages should NOT default to being stored anyway. You should have to enable it if you want it. The whole purpose of closing a list is to not get crap mail that you dont want. If I wanted to have to approve mail i would have set it up to be moderated. At 10:05 AM 5/14/2002 +0800, Lewis
[Mailman-Users] mailman
Hi I would like to say that I think Mailman is a great utility! I would like to extract the user names and passwords for a particular list, how do I do this? Regards, Andrew __ This information is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain private, confidential, proprietary and/or privileged material and may be subject to confidentiality agreements. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or any other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information, by persons or entities other than the intended recipient, is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all storage media. The company is neither liable for proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication, any delay in its receipt or that the mail is virus-free -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] newbie: 2.0.10 not creating lists correctly?
Hi ho, I am trying to love mailman. First i had to upgrade python, i'm sticking w/my old gcc and libc5. Python 2.2.1 (#1, May 9 2002, 18:12:32) [GCC egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release)] on linux2 mailman 2.0.10 ./configure --prefix=/home/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/mailman --with-cgi-gid=web --with-cgi-gid=nogroup oh, and i'm using qmail. So when i type `newlist test` i get a symlink created to nowhere. Is that correct? /var/mailman/archives/public/test - /var/mailman/archives/private/test I am also having qmail issues, i.e. mail sent to the list, list-admin, or list-control goes into a black hole; but i'm guessing that this problem should be solved first. No, that's not quite right. Mail goes into mailman; i see 2 pending subscriptions, but mailman is unable to send mail out. I see an identd to the mail target and then a bounce line May 10 01:27:00 2002 (4499) Test: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - first I also get a post failure, probably related to the missing private/test May 10 01:27:00 2002 (4499) post to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1321, 1 failures Thanks -- [duke:/var/mailman/archives] ls -alR total 4 drwxrwsr-x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 9 22:50 . drwxrwsrwx 10 mailman mailman 1024 May 9 22:50 .. drwxrws--x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 private drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 public private: total 4 drwxrws--x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 . drwxrwsr-x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 9 22:50 .. drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 10 01:26 test.mbox drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 test1.mbox private/test.mbox: total 2 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 10 01:26 . drwxrws--x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 .. private/test1.mbox: total 2 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 . drwxrws--x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 .. public: total 2 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 May 11 18:24 . drwxrwsr-x 4 mailman mailman 1024 May 9 22:50 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman34 May 10 01:26 test - /var/mailman/archives/private/test lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman39 May 10 01:26 test.mbox - /var/mailman/archives/private/test.mbox lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman35 May 11 18:24 test1 - /var/mailman/archives/private/test1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman40 May 11 18:24 test1.mbox - /var/mailman/archives/private/test1.mbox [duke:/var/mailman/archives] -- -- _,-- `-._-___ _'--''--'_ //_| | \[EMAIL PROTECTED] / | |_\\ (_|_|__= Guilford CT +1.203.458.0389 =__|_|_) _\_=___ http://www.buckosoft.com ___=_/_ \/-(o)-~~-(o)-~~-(o)-`--'-(o)-~~-(o)-~~-(o)-\/ Early Net Poetry: Wustl, Wustl, ERR RIP MIT BOOTp, BIND Wustl -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] pending users
Hi, I installed mailman and everything seems to work fine up until a user gets the confirmation message. After that, mailman puts the person into a pending status.Unfortunately this status doesn't get updated and users won't get subscribed to the list. I've tried almost everything, and I can't come up with a solution. In administration -- privacy setings, I selected confirm. There might be a permissions problem, because when I do chmod -R a+rwx /home/mailman the pending status turns into new in the subscribe log, and users get their welcome email. But when I do that, everything breaks and mailman says it encountered a bug. Does anyone know what's wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock
Simon, That is not an error, as such. You get that notice in your qrunner log whenever qrunner starts up and finds that there is already another qrunner process running, by virtue of the fact that there is a lock in ~mailman/locks/. Now ~mailman/qfiles is where emails and such live, so if you deleted those... - H Hmmm, My lists stopped last night. This was in the qrunner log: May 14 16:29:01 2002 (11337) Could not acquire qrunner lock I have upgraded to Python 2.2.1 Downloaded, configured, make install, mailman-2.0.10 And I still get the error. I have removed all the files from /home/mailman/qfiles and /home/mailman/locks and it seems OK but what could the cause be? Simon -- Harold Paulson Sierra Web Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sierraweb.com VOICE: 775.833.9500 FAX: 775-201-4458 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending users
One more thing. I do get some errors; my error log says: May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): Traceback (most recent call last): May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 222, in ? May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): main() May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 203, in main May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): process_lists(lock) May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 140, in process_lists May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 79, in __init__ May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): self.Load() May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 892, in Load May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): dict, e = self.__load(dbfile) May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 869, in __load May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): fp = open(dbfile) May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): IOError : [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/lists/testlist/config.db' Some other info: % ls -la /home/mailman/lists/testlist/config.db -rw-rw 1 nobody mailman 2853 May 14 16:44 /home/mailman/lists/testlist/config.db Hi, I installed mailman and everything seems to work fine up until a user gets the confirmation message. After that, mailman puts the person into a pending status.Unfortunately this status doesn't get updated and users won't get subscribed to the list. I've tried almost everything, and I can't come up with a solution. In administration -- privacy setings, I selected confirm. There might be a permissions problem, because when I do chmod -R a+rwx /home/mailman the pending status turns into new in the subscribe log, and users get their welcome email. But when I do that, everything breaks and mailman says it encountered a bug. Does anyone know what's wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May 14 17:00:01 2002 gate_news(27538): IOError : [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/lists/testlist/config.db' % ls -la /home/mailman/lists/testlist/config.db -rw-rw 1 nobody mailman 2853 May 14 16:44 /home/mailman/lists/testlist/config.db be a permissions problem, because when I do chmod -R a+rwx /home/mailman the pending status turns into new in the subscribe log, and users get their welcome email. But when I do that, everything breaks and mailman says it encountered a bug. - You shouldn't be chmodding things +rwx... - Your permissions are wrong from what these errors tell me. Either your crontask runs as a completely different user than what your directories are owned by, or mailman itself can't write in those directories...a whole bunch of things could be wrong here. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending users
- You shouldn't be chmodding things +rwx... I know that, but that is the only way to find out if this is indeed a permissions problem. - Your permissions are wrong from what these errors tell me. Either your crontask runs as a completely different user than what your directories are owned by, or mailman itself can't write in those directories...a whole bunch of things could be wrong here. All files under /home/mailman are owned by user mailman and group mailman. User mailman's crontab is what it should be. The permissions for config.db are -rw-rw. I ran check_perms -f which reports no problems. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All files under /home/mailman are owned by user mailman and group mailman. Not according to your own email earlier... It showed they're owned by nobody.mailman -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending users
Not according to your own email earlier... It showed they're owned by nobody.mailman I changed it to mailman, but somehow it's back to nobody now. Also I'm getting a undelivered mail error message Command died with status 2: /home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist. Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 6, GOT gid 39. (Reconfigure to take 39?) I configured mailman with ./configure --with-mail-gid=6 --with-cgi-gid=39, where GID 6 is 'mail' and GID 39 is 'nobody' which apache runs as. This doesn't make any sense. Do I need to change wrapper's ownership to mail (GID 6)? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed it to mailman, but somehow it's back to nobody now. Also I'm getting a undelivered mail error message Because your apache server runs as nobody... Command died with status 2: /home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlist. Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 6, GOT gid 39. (Reconfigure to take 39?) I configured mailman with ./configure --with-mail-gid=6 --with-cgi-gid=39, --with-mail-gid=39 Looks like your mailer runs as nobody as well. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Mailman in OS X
I have tried to install mailman on my OS X machine (10.1.4) with Python 2. 2. Everything seems to install just fine (no errors) after. I was even able o create a test list per the docs and got an email in the right place telling me of the list. Trouble is, I cannot access the web interface. I assume this has to do with errors in the httpd.conf file. I setup a VirtualHost directive to point to, I thought, the mailman directory, following the instructions in the INSTALL document: VirtualHost * ServerName mailman.my-dynamic-host.tld Documentroot /Users/mailman/ ScriptAlias /mailman/ /Users/mailman/cgi-bin/ alias /pipermail/ /Users/mailman/Sites/archives/public/ /Virtualhost (other virtual hosts on my machine all work, including my webmail VH for my squirrelmail install, so that is not the problem). The user and group are setup to run as nobody, same as httpd I did not set $varprefix, so both $varprefix and $prefix should be /Users/ mailman/ The set-gid instructions seems to say that for BSD (would include OSX) the g+2 setting is not necessary. However, it did install without using the make command in README.BSD. bin/check_perms fails with the following error: % bin/check_perms Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/check_perms, line 281, in ? checkmail() File bin/check_perms, line 202, in checkmail mode = statmode(wrapper) File bin/check_perms, line 74, in statmode return os.stat(path)[ST_MODE] OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Users/mailman/mail/wrapper' Also, the ~prefix/cgi-bin/ directory is empty. This is the stable build of mailman-2.0.10. I tried enabling all options with a .htaccess file, but that merely let me load the ~mailman/Sites directory. I built with: % ./configure --prefix=/Users/mailman --with-cgi-gid=nobody % make install as I said, no errors. -- You are responsible for your rose. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
