[Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.1 - Help

2003-07-10 Thread CARTER Anthony
Hi,

We have a list that is moderated for all messages. When in the approval
screen, you can view messages by clicking on the message numbers.
However, we have one that when you click it, you get the error given
below:


Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!


Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /export/spare/home/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
main()
  File /export/spare/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 212, in main
show_message_requests(mlist, form, msgid)
  File /export/spare/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 521, in 
show_message_requests
show_post_requests(mlist, id, info, 1, 1, form)
  File /export/spare/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 554, in 
show_post_requests
msg = readMessage(os.path.join(mm_cfg.DATA_DIR, filename))
  File /export/spare/home/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 582, in readMessage
msg = cPickle.load(fp)
UnpicklingError: A load persistent id instruction was encountered,
but no persistent_load function was specified.


Any ideas anyone?

Thanks,
Anthony

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuration

2003-07-10 Thread Richard Humphrey
Add the following to your httpd.conf file and restart apache. Be sure and 
change the paths to match your setup. These are the paths that Redhat uses 
for Mailman install, but sounds like Mandrake is different.

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/
Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/
Directory /var/mailman/archives
Options +FollowSymlinks
/Directory

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On 9 Jul 2003, Thomas Spuhler wrote:

 Date: 09 Jul 2003 22:13:17 -0700
 From: Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Configuration
 
 I am trying to get my mailman setup in Mandrake 9.1 working. All the
 files are in /var/lib/mailman instead of /home/mailman as per mailman
 documentation.
 
 I was able to setup a test list and I actually got an e-mail from
 mailman with an address where I can admin my new list:
 
 You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:
 http://aargau.btspuhler.com/mailman/admin/test
 
 Appache seems to work. when I use aargau.btspuhler.com The standard
 Mandrake WEB page for Apache shows up.
 
 I probably need to make some config changes to Apache for mailman to
 work, but where and what.
 
 
 


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[Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Anderson
Hi 

I'm running mailman for the mailing list of http://www.aarons-jokes.com/
I'm currently sending out over 150,000 mails (over 7 lists) a day using
an announce only type setup.

Problem is mailman has been causing the server to crash on a regular
basis.

I am get VERY large number (1000's) of the following errors and as yet
have not been able to track down the problem.  I recently upgraded to
2.1.2 and the problem still persists.  Is anybody else having these same
error or stability problems with large lists?

Thanks
Rob Anderson
webmaster
http://www.aarons-jokes.com/  


*** error 1 start ***
Jul 09 19:11:17 2003 (3753) Uncaught runner exception: could not convert
string to float
Jul 09 19:11:17 2003 (3753) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in
_oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in
_onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 126, in
_dispose
mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py, line 113, in
registerBounce
member)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py, line 75, in new
db = _load()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py, line 163, in _load
return cPickle.load(fp)
ValueError: could not convert string to float

Jul 09 19:11:16 2003 (3753) SHUNTING:
105934.374436+b94b87a5f6e96604a9eaf73d54eaf53891901316

*** error 1 end ***

*** error 2 start ***
Jul 09 19:11:16 2003 (3753) Uncaught runner exception: could not convert
string to float
Jul 09 19:11:16 2003 (3753) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in
_oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in
_onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 126, in
_dispose
mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py, line 113, in
registerBounce
member)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py, line 75, in new
db = _load()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py, line 163, in _load
return cPickle.load(fp)
ValueError: could not convert string to float

Jul 09 19:11:15 2003 (3753) SHUNTING:
105934.045249+1be1e4bc562ef65144a2ff5c28abd4b7690452e7
*** error 2 end ***



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[Mailman-Users] Bounce Notices

2003-07-10 Thread John Liggins
How do I set things so that I can get a Bounce notice the FIRST time that a
message bounces? I need to know if anyone on my list has NOT received a
message.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Notices

2003-07-10 Thread Jon Carnes
Scan the mailman log files. It reports every bounce in the logs.

On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 00:43, John Liggins wrote:
 How do I set things so that I can get a Bounce notice the FIRST time that a
 message bounces? I need to know if anyone on my list has NOT received a
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[Mailman-Users] digest issues

2003-07-10 Thread Evey
Hi there, 

 

I just started a new list with mailman, and as it's a heavy traffic list
(already) people have been going on digest. 

However, a lot of the digest email seems to be a mix of html tags and ascii,
making most of the digest illegible. Is there a way I can get the digest to
be legible without making everyone write emails to the list in plain text? 

 

Cheers

EVE

 

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[Mailman-Users] newbie question

2003-07-10 Thread Ed Hill

Hi folks,

I've setup mailman for a low-traffic public list and, while all the
mails seem to get through just fine, I'm having one nagging little
problem.  I'd like the Reply-To: address to point to: 

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

but mails sent from the list appear to be from:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

in spite of my efforts to specify the Return-To: settings through the
mailman admin tools.

For instance, heres part of a header:

Received: from onyx.he.net (onyx.he.net [216.218.161.2]) by
forge.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6AEFXMf018850 for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:15:33 -0400
Received: from eaps-dhcp-131.lcs.mit.edu (eaps-dhcp-131.lcs.mit.edu
[18.24.3.131]) by onyx.he.net (8.8.6p2003-03-31/8.8.2) with ESMTP id
HAA05609 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:15:33
-0700

and it appears from this that sendmail is changing the Reply-To:
address.

Any suggestions on how I can fix this?

thanks!
Ed


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Crash when adding subscribers

2003-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
Problem solved it seems.

Let's recapitulate :

I execute the add_members command to add members to the list 'test'. The
file 'addresses' contains a few addresses (one per line). The '-w y'
option triggers a notification mail to the new subscribers.

nyiragongo:/home/jim/admin/mailman# add_members -r addresses -w y test
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/sbin/add_members, line 255, in ?
main()
  File /usr/sbin/add_members, line 235, in main
addall(mlist, nmembers, 0, send_welcome_msg, s)
  File /usr/sbin/add_members, line 135, in addall
mlist.ApprovedAddMember(userdesc, ack, 0)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 902, in
ApprovedAddMember
digest, text)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py, line 78, in
SendSubscribeAck
text, pluser)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Message.py, line 206, in __init__
errors='replace')
TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'errors'

I was initially quite puzzled, but I managed to relate the error to the
last call. Line 206 in /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Message.py is :

self['Subject'] = Header(subject, charset, header_name='Subject',errors='replace')

I changed it to 

self['Subject'] = Header(subject, charset, header_name='Subject')

and my add_members command now executes fine although some error case
that I don't quite understand is no longer handled.

I wonder why I'm the only one to have encountered that problem.

Good thing the source was there so I could fix it myself. Good thing
that Python is interpreted so that I can fix the code directly without
recompiling. I'm amazed that a non-programmer like me can fix that kind
of problems.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question

2003-07-10 Thread Jon Carnes
Hay Ed,

What version of Mailman are you using?  Guessing that you are using a
recent version, you should be able to set the Mailing host (as opposed
to the Web host) separate within the configuration file:
  ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py

You would be setting up a virtual domain since the address is different
from the default.

The kids are calling so I've got to be running!  Good Luck - Jon
 
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:25, Ed Hill wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I've setup mailman for a low-traffic public list and, while all the
 mails seem to get through just fine, I'm having one nagging little
 problem.  I'd like the Reply-To: address to point to: 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 but mails sent from the list appear to be from:
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 in spite of my efforts to specify the Return-To: settings through the
 mailman admin tools.
 
 For instance, heres part of a header:
 
 Received: from onyx.he.net (onyx.he.net [216.218.161.2]) by
 forge.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6AEFXMf018850 for
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:15:33 -0400
 Received: from eaps-dhcp-131.lcs.mit.edu (eaps-dhcp-131.lcs.mit.edu
 [18.24.3.131]) by onyx.he.net (8.8.6p2003-03-31/8.8.2) with ESMTP id
 HAA05609 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:15:33
 -0700
 
 and it appears from this that sendmail is changing the Reply-To:
 address.
 
 Any suggestions on how I can fix this?
 
 thanks!
 Ed
 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] digest issues

2003-07-10 Thread Alessio Bragadini
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 16:10, Evey wrote:

 However, a lot of the digest email seems to be a mix of html tags and ascii,
 making most of the digest illegible. Is there a way I can get the digest to
 be legible without making everyone write emails to the list in plain text? 

MIME digests work much better for a list with complex messages,
including HTML mail and/or attachments.

You could move all your existing digest users to the non-plain digest
mode (in membership management) and set the default to MIME in digest
options.

Hope this helps.

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[Mailman-Users] Dealing with duplicate messages

2003-07-10 Thread Martyn Drake
Hi,

I'm running several internal MailMan mailing lists which are in turn
have other MailMan mailing lists subscribed to it.  In addition, the
same people are subscribed to other mailing lists on the system.

The problem is that they're complaining about duplicate messages
whenever anybody cross-posts to these mailing lists and I was wondering
if MailMan is clever enough to detect that this same person is receiving
the same message and consequently only delivers one copy.

Regards,

Martyn

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[Mailman-Users] email address in footer

2003-07-10 Thread Rob Eckerson
I need to put the recipient's email address into the footer of my email.
Like: This message was sent to:[email]
or To unsubscribe : [email]
Can anyone tell me how this is done?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] email address in footer

2003-07-10 Thread Todd
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Rob Eckerson wrote:
 I need to put the recipient's email address into the footer of my email.
 Like: This message was sent to:[email]
 or To unsubscribe : [email]
 Can anyone tell me how this is done?

You need to turn on personalization for this.  See this FAQ entry for some
tips:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.015.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question

2003-07-10 Thread Ed Hill
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 11:33, Jon Carnes wrote:
 Hay Ed,
 
 What version of Mailman are you using?  Guessing that you are using a
 recent version, you should be able to set the Mailing host (as opposed
 to the Web host) separate within the configuration file:
   ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py

Hi Jon,

Thanks for responding!  I'm using mailman-2.1.2-2 as shipped with RH 9
and the machine has the name forge.lcs.mit.edu with a CNAME of
dev.mitgcm.org pointing to the same IP address.  Through the Mailman
admin web interface I set the Reply-To: address as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the Mailman config file I set:

  DEFAULT_URL_HOST   = 'dev.mitgcm.org'
  DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'dev.mitgcm.org'

and also in sendmail.mc I used:

  MASQUERADE_AS(`dev.mitgcm.org')dnl
  FEATURE(allmasquerade)dnl
  FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
  FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl
  MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(forge.lcs.mit.edu)dnl
  MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(dev.mitgcm.org)dnl

and made sure to run the sendmail.cf--rebuild command and restart all
daemons.  But after all that the emails from the list still arrive at my
inbox with To: and Reply-To: addresses of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] when what I'd prefer is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].  Its really just an annoyance since the
list emails seem to go to all the right places -- I just want the
different fqdn in the To: and Reply-To: headers.

So I'm stumped.  What config-file invocation am I missing?


 You would be setting up a virtual domain since the address is different
 from the default.
 
 The kids are calling so I've got to be running!  Good Luck - Jon

Thanks again and I hope things are going well in NC!  ;-)

Ed


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[Mailman-Users] RE: Problems with list server bounces going throughnews gateway

2003-07-10 Thread Eric McDonald
Second request--Anybody have some insight on this one?

Eric McDonald
Systems Admin, RAIN Network

-Original Message-
From: Eric McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: 'Kasey Minnis'
Subject: Problems with list server bounces going through news gateway


Hi everyone:

I have a list server that's tied to a news server through the gateway,
specifically soc.nonprofit.org

When someone posts a message to the newsgroup, it gets forwarded to the
nonprofit list server that I maintain, but if one of the users on the
listserver has the mail bounced back, and then it's approved by the
administrator, then the bounce goes all the way back to the original
poster on the newsgroup (not the whole newsgroup itself).

Is there any way to make list server bounces transparent to those who
are posting to the newsgroup?

Thanks in advance,

Eric McDonald
Systems Admin, RAIN Network


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[Mailman-Users] mailing list vs. posting list

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Carsey
One of the features of majordomo was that you could separate the
addresses on the mailing-list and the addresses which were able to post
to the list  (i think it was the restricted_posters= config option).

In my case, I have an all-staff list and an all-faculty list.  Sometimes
our staff (not on the faculty list) sends reminder notices to the
faculty (apparently they are old and forget things easily or
something).  

The obvious thing to do is to open up the mailing list so _anyone_ can
post to it ---  great, but I don't want disgruntled students sending
stuff to the list.  Which used to happen a lot. :(

The next obvious thing to do is to also add the staff to the faculty
list, but mark them as disabled -- still subscribed, but they won't
receive e-mail.

Last but not least, the list (or site) admin can manually approve
messages from the staff. ugh.

Are there any other options for me to consider?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question

2003-07-10 Thread Jon Carnes
Ahh, the list was already created before you did all this right? 

You'll have to use a special fix_url script on your list (or delete and
recreate the list). The script is found in ~mailman/bin/..

Life in NC is fun (as usual).  You are missed.  Hope you're having fun
in my old haunts up in Cambridge!

Take care - Jon

On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 14:12, Ed Hill wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 11:33, Jon Carnes wrote:
  Hay Ed,
  
  What version of Mailman are you using?  Guessing that you are using a
  recent version, you should be able to set the Mailing host (as opposed
  to the Web host) separate within the configuration file:
~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
 
 Hi Jon,
 
 Thanks for responding!  I'm using mailman-2.1.2-2 as shipped with RH 9
 and the machine has the name forge.lcs.mit.edu with a CNAME of
 dev.mitgcm.org pointing to the same IP address.  Through the Mailman
 admin web interface I set the Reply-To: address as
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the Mailman config file I set:
 
   DEFAULT_URL_HOST   = 'dev.mitgcm.org'
   DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'dev.mitgcm.org'
 
 and also in sendmail.mc I used:
 
   MASQUERADE_AS(`dev.mitgcm.org')dnl
   FEATURE(allmasquerade)dnl
   FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
   FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl
   MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(forge.lcs.mit.edu)dnl
   MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(dev.mitgcm.org)dnl
 
 and made sure to run the sendmail.cf--rebuild command and restart all
 daemons.  But after all that the emails from the list still arrive at my
 inbox with To: and Reply-To: addresses of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] when what I'd prefer is 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Its really just an annoyance since the
 list emails seem to go to all the right places -- I just want the
 different fqdn in the To: and Reply-To: headers.
 
 So I'm stumped.  What config-file invocation am I missing?
 
 
  You would be setting up a virtual domain since the address is different
  from the default.
  
  The kids are calling so I've got to be running!  Good Luck - Jon
 
 Thanks again and I hope things are going well in NC!  ;-)
 
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[Mailman-Users] Virtual Domains

2003-07-10 Thread Matt Thoene
Hi,

Does anyone subscribed to the list have mailman working with virtual
domains? 1 IP, multiple domains, multiple url's? If so, can you possible
point me to a howto on it? I'm having a terrible time getting it to
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Really Fustrating - Searchable Archives

2003-07-10 Thread Peter Russell
Richard, thanks for your guide - i followed it step by step and everything 
appears to work now, first time. This wasnt even really that hard, just 
needed the guide to follow.

Maybe you could get this on a webpage and have a link where ever your 
patches live? Or is it just me who couldnt do it? :)

I think i will just swap the production machine for my test machine rather 
than do all that remotely.

Many thanks
Pete





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Peter

I did the notes below for somebody else wanting to upgrade Mailman 2.1.2 
installed from source. If you have installed Mailman from source on your 
test machine why not take a look at my notes and see what you think. Try 
adding the htdig integration to your test machine to see how much of a 
problem you find it.

If you like I will take a look at a procedure for de-installing the RPM 
installed MM on your production machine and replacing it with MM from 
source. One thing you could do is send me the output from the following 
command:

rpm -ql mailman

I run Suse Linux rather than RedHat so I cannot readily check the exact 
details of the files RedHat's mailman RPM package installs. The command 
I've given provides that information.

Regards

Richard

-

The following notes are applicable to MM 2.1.2 installed from source.

Phase 1 - Initial preparation of Mailman
===

1. Download the following patch files and save them in the directory above 

your Mailman build directory.

templates-2.1.2-0.1.patch from 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=728836group_id=103atid=100103

tcache-2.1.2-0.3.patch.gz from 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=730769group_id=103atid=100103

tz-2.1.2-0.2.patch from 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=732366group_id=103atid=100103

indexing-2.1.2-0.1.patch.gz from 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444879group_id=103atid=300103

htdig-2.1.2-0.3.patch.gz from 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444884group_id=103atid=300103

2. gunzip all of the patch files that are .gz suffix. For example use the 
command:

gunzip indexing-2.1.2-0.1.patch.gz

3. With your MM build directory as current working directory apply the 
patches:

patch -p1  ../templates-2.1.2-0.1.patch
patch -p1  ../tcache-2.1.2-0.3.patch
patch -p1  ../tz-2.1.2-0.2.patch
patch -p1  ../indexing-2.1.2-0.1.patch
patch -p1  ../htdig-2.1.2-0.3.patch

4. Run the Mailman ./configure using exactly the same command as you ran 
when you originally installed Mailman.

5. Use mailmanctl to stop Mailman's daemons. For example use the command:

$prefix/bin/mailmanctl stop

6. Remove Mailman's crontab. For example use the following command as 
root:

crontab -r -u mailman

7. Stop your MTA. For example you might run, as root, the following 
command 
if you were running sendmail:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail stop

8. Stop your web server. For example you might run, as root, the following 

command:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/apache stop

9. Run the Mailman make install:

make install

10. Run the Mailman checkperms with $prefix as the current working 
director, re-running it with the -f option if any errors are reported:

$prefix/bin/check_perms

11. Restart your web server.

12. Reinstall the Mailman crontab, which should now have an extra entry 
for 
running nightly_htdig in it.

13. Use mailmanctl to restart Mailman's daemons.

Mailman should now be patched to support the use of Htdig for searching 
but 
nothing will be activated until Htdig is installed and some Mailman 
configuration variables have been set up. Check Mailman is working 
normally 
in all other respects.

Phase 2 - Installing Htdig
===

I strongly recommend using Htdig 3.1.6. I have not tested my mailman-htdig 

patches with other than the latest stable release which is 3.1.6. RedHat 
seems to distribute htdig 3.2b3 as if it were a stable release and I have 
had several reports of people having problems of one sort or another with 
it.

1. Getting the htdig 3.1.6 source via this page http://htdig.org/where.html 
works for me.

2. Having unpacked the source package I then run commands, as root, to 
configure and install it, basically following the instructions here 
http://htdig.org/install.html, with the following commands:

./configure  --with-cgi-bin-dir=/usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin 
--with-image-dir=/usr/local/httpd/htdocs/htdig
make
make install

3. In my case this installs htdig into the default /opt/www/htdig/ 
directory with some of the web related stuff under the ServerRoot 
directory 
for my Apache server. If ServerRoot in your Apache server's 
/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf is not /usr/local/httpd then change the 
./configure line above to be what your system is setup for.

RE: [Mailman-Users] Return to performance

2003-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:05 PM -0700 2003/07/09, Eric Miller wrote:

 One question:  Should I be looking at a better MTA?
	For mailing lists, postfix tends to be better suited to the job 
out-of-the-box.  If you know what you're doing, it is possible to 
configure sendmail to do the job better than even postfix can do (on 
the same hardware), but it takes work and spending some money to 
upgrade the hardware.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Return to performance

2003-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:52 PM -0400 2003/07/09, Jon Carnes wrote:

 sendmail option seemed to really help. I'm down to 4 to 10 minutes
 with most messages at 6.
 It really helps when you move those slow MTA's to the end of the line,
 they don't block the messages getting out to the quicker ones.
	That is another recommendation common to the papers by Kolstad, 
Chalup, Christensen, myself, etc

 Yes. Postfix.  For you that would be a fairly easy change.  RedHat 9
 comes with an MTA changer that will move you over to Postfix
 automagically.  I don't know the effect that will have on Mailman, but
 I've heard from third-hand sources that it works fine (which I find
 surprising).
	Out-of-the-box, postfix tends to be well-designed for use with 
mailing lists.  With work (and some money), you can configure 
sendmail to outperform even postfix on the same box, but this is not 
trivial.

 BTW: I looked at the the other fellows recommend web-sites. This one
 seemed worth the trip, and a good recommendation for reading (though a
 bit dated). Most of it was general to any Mail server.
   http://www.jetcafe.org/npc/doc/performance_tuning.pdf
	Nick's got a good paper, but when it comes to mailing lists, 
don't ignore the papers by Kolstad or Chalup.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question

2003-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:12 PM -0400 2003/07/10, Ed Hill wrote:

 Thanks for responding!  I'm using mailman-2.1.2-2 as shipped with RH 9
 and the machine has the name forge.lcs.mit.edu with a CNAME of
 dev.mitgcm.org pointing to the same IP address.
	Therein lies the problem.  RFC 822 (and 2822) require that all 
CNAME aliases be resolved to their canonical name, before being put 
in mail headers.  This problem cannot be solved by mailman, or your 
MTA.  You need to fix your DNS.  Make dev.mitgcm.org directly resolve 
to the same IP address as forge.lcs.mit.edu, and that should do it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailing list vs. posting list

2003-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:44 PM -0400 2003/07/10, Robert Carsey wrote:

 One of the features of majordomo was that you could separate the
 addresses on the mailing-list and the addresses which were able to post
 to the list  (i think it was the restricted_posters= config option).
	Yup, mailman can do the same.

 The next obvious thing to do is to also add the staff to the faculty
 list, but mark them as disabled -- still subscribed, but they won't
 receive e-mail.
	You can do that.  Or, you can add the staff members to the white 
list for the faculty mailing list, and all the specified e-mail 
addresses will be able to post, in addition to the subscribers.

	Of course, nothing will stop someone else from forging an e-mail 
address and posting as someone who is subscribed.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuration

2003-07-10 Thread Thomas Spuhler
I have a file named mailman.conf in directory /etc/httpd/conf that has
the following in it:

#
# Configure Mailman's CGI scripts
#
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
Directory /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin
  Options -Indexes -FollowSymLinks -Includes ExecCgi
  AllowOverride None
  order allow,deny
  allow from all
/Directory

#
# Configure the public archives
#
Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public
  Options -Indexes FollowSymlinks -Includes
  AllowOverride None
  order allow,deny
  allow from all
/Directory

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On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:38, Richard Humphrey wrote:
 Add the following to your httpd.conf file and restart apache. Be sure and 
 change the paths to match your setup. These are the paths that Redhat uses 
 for Mailman install, but sounds like Mandrake is different.
 
 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/
 Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/
 Directory /var/mailman/archives
 Options +FollowSymlinks
 /Directory
 
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 On 9 Jul 2003, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
 
  Date: 09 Jul 2003 22:13:17 -0700
  From: Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] Configuration
  
  I am trying to get my mailman setup in Mandrake 9.1 working. All the
  files are in /var/lib/mailman instead of /home/mailman as per mailman
  documentation.
  
  I was able to setup a test list and I actually got an e-mail from
  mailman with an address where I can admin my new list:
  
  You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:
  http://aargau.btspuhler.com/mailman/admin/test
  
  Appache seems to work. when I use aargau.btspuhler.com The standard
  Mandrake WEB page for Apache shows up.
  
  I probably need to make some config changes to Apache for mailman to
  work, but where and what.
  
  
  



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[Mailman-Users] Configuration

2003-07-10 Thread Thomas Spuhler
Thanks a lot Richard:

It works now.

I added the content of  file named mailman.conf in directory
/etc/httpd/conf  to /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf into the alias
section (at the end of the section)

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On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:38, Richard Humphrey wrote:
 Add the following to your httpd.conf file and restart apache. Be sure and 
 change the paths to match your setup. These are the paths that Redhat uses 
 for Mailman install, but sounds like Mandrake is different.
 
 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/
 Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/
 Directory /var/mailman/archives
 Options +FollowSymlinks
 /Directory
 
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  Date: 09 Jul 2003 22:13:17 -0700
  From: Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] Configuration
  
  I am trying to get my mailman setup in Mandrake 9.1 working. All the
  files are in /var/lib/mailman instead of /home/mailman as per mailman
  documentation.
  
  I was able to setup a test list and I actually got an e-mail from
  mailman with an address where I can admin my new list:
  
  You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:
  http://aargau.btspuhler.com/mailman/admin/test
  
  Appache seems to work. when I use aargau.btspuhler.com The standard
  Mandrake WEB page for Apache shows up.
  
  I probably need to make some config changes to Apache for mailman to
  work, but where and what.
  
  
  



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[Mailman-Users] how to strip the Prefix in header or Re mail?

2003-07-10 Thread jiands
hello,lists:

When reply a mail, the subject line look like
 [listname] Re:[listname] subject
how can I strip the first [listname]?

Thank

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[Mailman-Users] Install problems Error 500

2003-07-10 Thread Scott Brown
Hello,
 My Apache setup has the user/group set to: apache and apache.
 So, I ran ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-cgi-gid=apache
 make install
and it goes just fine. But when I goto 
http://www.mywebsite.com/mailman/admin I get the lovely 500 Internal Server 
Error. I have read the online docs enough to know it has to do with the gid 
or cgi.

Please help, Thanks!

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