[Mailman-Users] New Mailman Server Setup

2003-10-23 Thread james . osbourn
I have just compiled and installed a copyof mailman-2.1.3 with python-2.2.3
running on a Solaris 8 machine with and apache server

every thing appears to be ok except that when i connect to the
webser/mailman/ i get a 403 forbidden error with the message

You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server.

this also appears to happen for the public archives as well, although i
have not created any lists as yet to have any archives

i would like to get this resolved before creating any lists and getting to
far into the configuration of the server

please not that webserver/mailman/listinfo is working ok

my apache configuration is as follows:

ServerRoot /usr/local/apache
PidFile /usr/local/apache/logs/httpd.pid
ScoreBoardFile /usr/local/apache/logs/httpd.scoreboard
TypesConfig /usr/local/apache/conf/mime.types
IfModule mod_mime_magic.c
MIMEMagicFile /usr/local/apache/conf/magic
/IfModule

ServerName mailman.globalgraphics.com

Port 80

Listen 172.16.19.105:80

User www
Group www

ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Directory /
AllowOverride None
Options Indexes FollowSymlinks
Allow from all
/Directory

Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public
Options FollowSymlinks
/Directory

DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm
AccessFileName .htaccess

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/

any help with this will apreciated, i have run check_perms and the
permissions are ok so i do not know what the problem is.  i played with an
earlier version of mailman previously and did not have these problems

Thanks

James Osbourn



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Re: [Mailman-Users] restarting a blocked list

2003-10-23 Thread javier
i'm actually working with 2.1.3 (always the latest version is good  ;-) )
No problems found with checkperms.
Now, i'm going to write my little experiment with mailman, i don't know 
if somebody did it before, look the /usr/local/mailman in machine1

bash-2.03$ cd /usr/local/mailman/
bash-2.03$ ls -la
total 54
drwxrwsr-x  18 mailman  mailman  512 Oct 22 10:42 .
drwxr-xr-x  11 root other512 Sep 19 12:00 ..
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root mailman   26 Jul  3 12:50 archives - 
/dirarcon/mailman/archives
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman 1024 Oct  7 12:23 bin
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Oct  7 12:23 cgi-bin
-rw-r-   1 root mailman 4133 Oct 22 10:42 config.pck
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Oct  7 12:25 cron
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman 2048 Oct 21 12:09 data
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Oct  7 12:23 icons
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root mailman   23 Jul  3 12:50 lists - 
/dirarcon/mailman/lists
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Oct 23 13:25 locks
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Oct  1 08:26 logs
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Oct  7 12:23 mail
drwxrwsr-x  11 root mailman 1536 Oct  7 12:23 Mailman
drwxrwsr-x  24 root mailman  512 Oct  7 11:27 messages
drwxrwsr-x   6 root mailman  512 Jul  1 12:41 pythonlib
drwxrwsr-x  11 root mailman  512 Oct  7 11:34 qfiles
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Oct  7 12:42 scripts
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Jul  1 12:40 spam
drwxrwsr-x  26 root mailman  512 Oct  7 11:27 templates
drwxrwsr-x   4 root mailman  512 Oct  7 12:23 tests

As you can see mailman is working in machine1 and writting the lists 
information into a networkapplyant (dirarcon)

Now, machine2 has another mailman writting into dirarcon too, with same 
lists, and in DNS i put machine1 and machine2 with one name, 
mailmans.domain.es... so roundrobin of DNS sometimes send messages to 
lists by machine1 and sometimes by machine2... no problem... all work 
fine but the most traffic lists ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) sometimes 
stops (once per a couple of weeks)...

theory of unix says that two diferents tasks can open and write a file 
at same time, so i thought that was posible...

Now machine2 is stoped, and DNS only has a mailmans.domain.es - 
machine1, at momment [EMAIL PROTECTED] is working good, so i'm 
beginning to think that theory of unix is my problem, and if only  one 
machine is working with mailman, comunicaciones @cedex.es  won't stop...

anyway, i'll study qfiles, thank you very much jonc, and hope you to 
enjoy my experiment :-)



Jon Carnes wrote:

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 05:40, javier wrote:
 

hello...
one of the ten lists i have working stoped sending messages,.  Ok, at 
moment i have to rmlist blocked list, saving the config file, and i 
have to create the same new list again, with same config file, and 
without removing archives... but... i don't know  if i could solve this 
problem better...
i can't find why the list stops sending messages, may the cron process 
of sending digest is the reason, i've send a HELP message yesterday with 
the output cron command.

thank you very much
   

Javier,

Look in the FAQ for Mailman (3.14) might be helpful.

If you are not running the latest version of your Mailman branch, then
you should consider upgrading:
 For 2.0. that would be 2.0.13
 For 2.1  that would be 2.1.3
In general, check for a locking file problem first, then check the
qfiles to see what is stuck in the queue.  It may be that one of your
users on that list has a do-it-yourself email program that is sending
out corrupt headers.
You should NEVER need to delete the existing list.  If this solves the
problem for you, then try running check_perms -f and see if that finds
any problems.  This will check the rights on most of the key files
needed for Mailman to run properly.
Good Luck - Jon Carnes

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Re: [Mailman-Users] New Mailman Server Setup

2003-10-23 Thread Doug Griswold
It looks like you are going to the wrong url.  try
www.myserver.com/mailman/admin

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/23/03 07:25AM 
I have just compiled and installed a copyof mailman-2.1.3 with
python-2.2.3
running on a Solaris 8 machine with and apache server

every thing appears to be ok except that when i connect to the
webser/mailman/ i get a 403 forbidden error with the message

You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server.

this also appears to happen for the public archives as well, although
i
have not created any lists as yet to have any archives

i would like to get this resolved before creating any lists and getting
to
far into the configuration of the server

please not that webserver/mailman/listinfo is working ok

my apache configuration is as follows:

ServerRoot /usr/local/apache
PidFile /usr/local/apache/logs/httpd.pid
ScoreBoardFile /usr/local/apache/logs/httpd.scoreboard
TypesConfig /usr/local/apache/conf/mime.types
IfModule mod_mime_magic.c
MIMEMagicFile /usr/local/apache/conf/magic
/IfModule

ServerName mailman.globalgraphics.com

Port 80

Listen 172.16.19.105:80

User www
Group www

ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Directory /
AllowOverride None
Options Indexes FollowSymlinks
Allow from all
/Directory

Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public
Options FollowSymlinks
/Directory

DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm
AccessFileName .htaccess

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/

any help with this will apreciated, i have run check_perms and the
permissions are ok so i do not know what the problem is.  i played with
an
earlier version of mailman previously and did not have these problems

Thanks

James Osbourn



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[Mailman-Users] umbrella lists

2003-10-23 Thread Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist
We've had probs with nested lists in the past. I think the issue had to do
with private lists (ie only members can post) for both the sublist(s) and
the umbrella list. If set, how could a member of a sublist post to the
umbrella list unless either the umbrella list was unrestricted or the
user was also on the umbrella list? As I understand it, an umbrella list
should *ONLY* be a list of lists and have no users. But that still wont
allow a sublist member from posting to the umbrella, right?   So one
option we've entertained is to wipe and rebuild superlists each night
(ie dump sublist member addresses, wipe and reload them into superlist
instead of having nested list). This also makes employee-exit procedures
harder (how to find all lists a person is a member. I wrote a script that
lists_lists and recursivesly list_members and greps, kinda slow for many
lists.   OTOH, superlists guarantee someone isn't on two sublists and thus
gets two iterations of lists.

What have others done on this issue?

Another concern is; what happens if someone sends to a superlist during a
list rebuild? Is sync_members robust enough to at least always keep one
list of addresses around?

TIA


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Re: [Mailman-Users] umbrella lists

2003-10-23 Thread Jon Carnes
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 10:14, Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist wrote:
 We've had probs with nested lists in the past. I think the issue had to do
 with private lists (ie only members can post) for both the sublist(s) and
 the umbrella list. If set, how could a member of a sublist post to the
 umbrella list unless either the umbrella list was unrestricted or the
 user was also on the umbrella list?

A user does not have to be a member of a list to post.  Posting
privileges can be added either individually or via a regular expression.

I generally go the route of hourly sync's to do master lists formed
from sub-lists, so that isn't a problem I deal with regularly.

  As I understand it, an umbrella list
 should *ONLY* be a list of lists and have no users. But that still wont
 allow a sublist member from posting to the umbrella, right?   So one
 option we've entertained is to wipe and rebuild superlists each night
 (ie dump sublist member addresses, wipe and reload them into superlist
 instead of having nested list). This also makes employee-exit procedures
 harder (how to find all lists a person is a member.

Nope.

Look at the remove_members command in Mailman.
  --fromall
Removes the given addresses from all the lists on this
system regardless of virtual domains if you have any.
This option cannot be used with -a/--all.  Also, you
should not specify a listname when using this option.
 

  I wrote a script that
 lists_lists and recursivesly list_members and greps, kinda slow for many
 lists.   OTOH, superlists guarantee someone isn't on two sublists and thus
 gets two iterations of lists.
 
You also might want to look at the find_member command.

 What have others done on this issue?
 
 Another concern is; what happens if someone sends to a superlist during a
 list rebuild? Is sync_members robust enough to at least always keep one
 list of addresses around?

No problems.  Lists are locked during changes, so the sent email will
simply be queued until the lock is removed.

Hope that's helpful - Jon Carnes


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[Mailman-Users] Major problems after major problems...

2003-10-23 Thread mjn
So we had some problems with disk space on the box which houses
mailman...we ran out.

As a solution, we moved /mailman-2.0.13/archives to
/home/mailman-2.0.13/archives -/home resides on a different partition and
has plenty of free space.

I created and symlink in /mailman-2.0.13 for the archives directory and i
have double-checked all of the permissions in
/home/mailman-2.0.13/archives -initially there were issues.

Now I am have some problems with subscriptions and in viewing some
public archives.

there are a couple of issues:

Logging into admin mylist yields the admin pages but i get this at the
bottom of the page:

Bug in Mailman version 2.0.13

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem.  Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but
the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs.

Looking into the /mailman-2.0.13/logs/error, i see this:

Oct 23 10:33:04 2003 admin(24579):

admin(24579): [- Mailman Version: 2.0.13 -]
admin(24579): [- Traceback --]
admin(24579): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(24579):   File /mailman-2.0.13/scripts/driver, line 96, in
run_main
admin(24579): main()
admin(24579):   File ../Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 175, in main
admin(24579): mlist.Save()
admin(24579):   File /mailman-2.0.13/Mailman/MailList.py, line 861, in
Save
admin(24579): self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir()
admin(24579):   File /mailman-2.0.13/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line
256, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir
admin(24579): makelink(privdir, pubdir)
admin(24579):   File /mailman-2.0.13/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line
42, in makelink
admin(24579): os.symlink(old, new)
admin(24579): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
...

I have seen this error multiple times for multiple actions.

Most trouble of which is when a user attempts to subscribe via the web to
a list and this happens in the error log:

Oct 19 05:53:36 2003 admin(27587):

admin(27587): [- Mailman Version: 2.0.13 -]
admin(27587): [- Traceback --]
admin(27587): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(27587):   File /mailman-2.0.13/scripts/driver, line 96, in
run_main
admin(27587): main()
admin(27587):   File ../Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py, line 76, in main
admin(27587): process_form(mlist, doc)
admin(27587):   File ../Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py, line 187, in
process_form
admin(27587): mlist.AddMember(email, pw, digest, remote)
admin(27587):   File /mailman-2.0.13/Mailman/MailList.py, line 983, in
AddMember
admin(27587): cookie = Pending().new(name, password, digest)
admin(27587):   File ../Mailman/Pending.py, line 74, in new
admin(27587): self.__save(db)
admin(27587):   File ../Mailman/Pending.py, line 111, in __save
admin(27587): fp = open(self.db_path, w)
admin(27587): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/mailman/data/pending_subscriptions.db'



Any idea as far as what i should be looking at here? i have checked
permissions all over the place and it seems like something simple but i
cannot seem to find it. Ideas?

Any help is much appretiated. Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] Perl API

2003-10-23 Thread Jeff MacDonald
Hi,

I need to write a few custom management frontends to mail man and they
need to be in perl.

Is there a perl API[module] for mailman ?

Jeff.


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[Mailman-Users] Address matching behavior

2003-10-23 Thread Vijay G. Bharadwaj
Hi all,

I've been running a bunch of mailman lists for about two years now, and 
a couple of months ago I upgraded to version 2.1 from 2.0. Since the 
change, every message sent to any one of our members-only lists is being 
held for approval.

The problem appears to be a change in mailman's address matching 
behavior. Previously, if [EMAIL PROTECTED] was subscribed, email from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] would be accepted as well. The new mailman, 
however, doesn't think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a member, and so holds 
the message for approval.

This is a huge pain. Is there a way I can get back the old behavior? I 
searched all over google and Usenet, and it seems like no one else has 
commented on this before...

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[Mailman-Users] strange bounce notification

2003-10-23 Thread Aaron Bennett
Hello --

One of our lists owners has received a very strange uncaught bounce 
notification.  I can't figure out where it's coming from... here is the 
message:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Uncaught bounce notification

The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce
format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted
from it.  This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized
bounce messages to the list administrator(s).
For more information see:
http://lists.olin.edu/mailman/admin/it-student-wg/bounce
 



Subject:
New subscription request to list It-student-wg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:35:54 -0400

To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your authorization is required for a mailing list subscription request
approval:
   For:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At your convenience, visit:

   http://lists.olin.edu/mailman/admindb/it-student-wg
	
to process the request.
 

How would this bounce?  Where was it sent to?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Address matching behavior

2003-10-23 Thread Richard Barrett
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 08:50  pm, Vijay G. Bharadwaj wrote:

Hi all,

I've been running a bunch of mailman lists for about two years now, 
and a couple of months ago I upgraded to version 2.1 from 2.0. Since 
the change, every message sent to any one of our members-only lists is 
being held for approval.

The problem appears to be a change in mailman's address matching 
behavior.
See:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg11701.html

Previously, if [EMAIL PROTECTED] was subscribed, email from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] would be accepted as well. The new mailman, 
however, doesn't think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a member, and so holds 
the message for approval.

This is a huge pain. Is there a way I can get back the old behavior? I 
searched all over google and Usenet, and it seems like no one else has 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Address matching behavior

2003-10-23 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 03:50:44PM -0400, Vijay G. Bharadwaj wrote:
 I've been running a bunch of mailman lists for about two years now, and 
 a couple of months ago I upgraded to version 2.1 from 2.0. Since the 
 change, every message sent to any one of our members-only lists is being 
 held for approval.
 
 The problem appears to be a change in mailman's address matching 
 behavior. Previously, if [EMAIL PROTECTED] was subscribed, email from 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be accepted as well. The new mailman, 
 however, doesn't think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a member, and so holds 
 the message for approval.

I believe that this is the intended behavior.  You need to determine if
you want outgoing mail to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
you should not use both.  The 2 e-mail addresses are different, and I
think you need to fix the outgoing mail to masquerade
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would think the 2.0 behavior, as you specified, is a bug.  How would
you expect it to work if [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
are different users?  From an outsider's point of view, the most
certainly are.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is also different than
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - in some cases at my site, they are (root for example).

IMO, 2.1 is doing the right thing and you need to fix your outgoing mail
behavior.

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[Mailman-Users] New Zealand

2003-10-23 Thread Richard Davis
Is there anyone from NZ out there I could ring for some help with mailman?


Richard Davis
Communications Advisor and Webmaster
Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand
PO Box 9049, Wellington, New Zealand
Phone: +64.4.801600; Fax: +64.4.8016001
Direct: +64.4.3818285 Mob: 027.4048656
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Address matching behavior

2003-10-23 Thread Vijay G. Bharadwaj
Thanks for the replies.

I realize that adding the host name is not-so-desirable behavior (which 
is why you won't see hostnames in my outgoing email :)). It is, however, 
very common, and I don't have any control over the large number of users 
and mail servers that would need to be fixed in order for it to go away.

Ed - the 2.0 behavior was a config option, not a bug. I know that 
someone who controls a host can give themselves any username they want - 
this is just one of the many easy ways to forge a from address. However, 
most users don't do this, and many are either unable or not knowledgable 
enough to fix their clients or servers to canonicalize the outgoing 
address. As such, SMART_MATCH provided a useful service to some of us 
harrowed admins.

I think I will take a closer look at the membership adapter. It doesn't 
seem that hard to hack the functionality back in at first glance, and it 
sure beats having to nag at all the (mostly external) users who have the 
problem.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman CGI not working

2003-10-23 Thread Foo, Randy
Hello,

I'm a newbie, and have just installed mailman on Red Hat 9, with the
apache web server.  None of it was done with rpm, I downloaded,
configured and compiled from both apache.org and the mailman site.  I've
created the 'mailman' list, after having gone through all install docs.
Mailman's cgi does not work, however.  The documentation said to check
the apache group setting, which is at the default right now #-1, but I
have changed it to gid 99, to no avail.  Default cgi group is apparently
www in mailman, although the username is nobody in apache (gid 99 in
redhat) for httpd.  How do I get the mailman cgi to work?  I've set the
scriptalias directive in apache to /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin

I also tried re-running the configure script using the --with-cgi-id ,
but no matter what it seems to use www.

The first mailing from the mailman list went to my email ok, returning
the link myserver.vcd.hp.com/mailman/admin/mailman, but all that is
returned is the object not found - the requested URL was not found on
this server

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Randy Foo
Unix System Administrator
The Kemtah Group at Hewlett Packard

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[Mailman-Users] Good win32 mailing list manager server?

2003-10-23 Thread Glen Starrett
Does anyone know of a no-cost mailing list manager application that runs on
Win2k?  I saw the FAQ entry for mailman and have googled around for quite
awhile now, but can't seem to find any.  I would think this would be obvious
somewhere, but I can only find a handful of commercial implementations that
I've never heard of before.
 
Is anyone working on a win32 port of mailman, or has anyone put together a
howto to get it running under Win2K?  I'd set up a linux box but I think our
IT
people would freak out...
 
Regards,
 
Glen Starrett
 
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[Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-23 Thread Links at Momsview.com
Serious issue for those with aol subscribers.
I'm currently whitelisted with aol and usually have no problem with mail delivery.
Currently running 2.1.3


This morning I noticed aol bouncing just about all of the emails from my mailman 
server with one or the other of the following
bounce messages:

Oct 23 09:39:34 myserver postfix/smtp[5615]: 974515884F8: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152], delay=1, status=bounced (host 
mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152] said: 500 SYNTAX ERROR, COMMAND UNRECOGNIZED)
Oct 23 09:39:34 myserver postfix/smtp[6435]: 1ED73588177: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=mailin-01.mx.aol.com[64.12.137.89], delay=0, status=bounced (host 
mailin-01.mx.aol.com[64.12.137.89] said: 554 TRANSACTION FAILED)

I spoke with the aol postmaster support line and they confirmed that the problem is 
due to the form of the mailman reply-to address to process bounces:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

They don't like the = in the address.

Again this appears to be due to a recent change in aol's mail server software.

I'll update once I hear back from aol
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[Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-23 Thread Links at Momsview.com
I meant to say that the issue is with the mailman form of 

Sender:
and
Errors-to:

Not

Reply-to
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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-23 Thread Allan Trick
Is there anything we can do to remedy this in our own installations of 
Mailman?  It'd be nice if AOL would fix it, but I don't think we can count 
on that.  It's clearly not a situation any of us can live with.  So what 
shall we do?

Allan

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[Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-23 Thread Links at Momsview.com
Someone emailed me to point out that this form of Sender: and Errors to: address is 
only used if you have personalization turned on.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-23 Thread Allan Trick

Someone emailed me to point out that this form of Sender: and Errors to: 
address is only used if you have personalization turned on.
I couldn't live without personalization now that I have it on.

Would removing the RFC 2369 headers make any difference to AOL?

Allan

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[Mailman-Users] Where is 'reject' message stored

2003-10-23 Thread Warren Hoffman
One of my associates set up content filters to reject attachments and other 
things. He created a custom message to explain this. Now he wants to change 
the message, but I cannot locate which file in /mailman holds the text (and 
I did look at all of them). Can somebody tell me how I could find it. I do 
know text fragments.

Thanks!!!

--Warren

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Re: [Mailman-Users] restarting a blocked list

2003-10-23 Thread Jon Carnes
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 07:37, javier wrote:
 i'm actually working with 2.1.3 (always the latest version is good 
 ;-) )
 theory of unix says that two diferents tasks can open and write a file

Do you have the ~mailman/locks directory shared as well?

That should do a fair job of keeping the processes (even on multiple
machines) from writing to the files simultaneously.

 at same time, so i thought that was posible...
 
 Now machine2 is stoped, and DNS only has a mailmans.domain.es -
 machine1, at momment [EMAIL PROTECTED] is working good, so i'm
 beginning to think that theory of unix is my problem, and if only 
 one machine is working with mailman, comunicaciones @cedex.es  won't
 stop...
 
 anyway, i'll study qfiles, thank you very much jonc, and hope you to
 enjoy my experiment  :-) 
  
Cool.  I've used LVS to do something similar. In my case, I run a
separate process in the background that keeps the background servers
synchronized (and creates a lock file during the sync).

In the end, I think that is a simpler setup, as each server can operate
independently.  Originally I set it up so that only one of the
background servers handled the Web-requests - that removed any latency
issues from users who expect to see the changes instantly propagated. 

Good Luck - Jon Carnes


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[Mailman-Users] Re: AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-23 Thread Paul H Byerly
Links at Momsview.com wrote:
Someone emailed me to point out that this form of Sender: and Errors to: 
address is only used if you have personalization turned on.
I must differ with the subject heading.  I have four Mailman 2.1.2 
lists with personalization on, and I am not getting bounces from AOL.  In 
fact I just sent a message to one, and it went to my AOL test account just 
fine.

 Paul 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Where is 'reject' message stored

2003-10-23 Thread Jon Carnes
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 23:10, Warren Hoffman wrote:
 One of my associates set up content filters to reject attachments and other 
 things. He created a custom message to explain this. Now he wants to change 
 the message, but I cannot locate which file in /mailman holds the text (and 
 I did look at all of them). Can somebody tell me how I could find it. I do 
 know text fragments.
 
 Thanks!!!
 
 --Warren

for i in `find /var/mailman/ -type f` do; grep -H fragment $i; done

This will search through every file in every subdirectory of
/var/mailman and look for the word fragment. If it finds a match, it
prints out the files name.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes


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