[Mailman-Users] please ignore help request - problem solved

2004-07-17 Thread Phil Voris
upgrade-related permissions issues.  Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to set up an archive of current and past city council public notices.

2004-07-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:50 AM -0400 2004-07-17, Don Saklad wrote:
 a. How might a listserver type archive of the notices be set up so that
forwarding the notices as they are will appear in the listserver 
archive in
readable text ?...
	They'd have to be converted from .doc to a text format that is 
more readable.

 b. Does the mailman listserver software automatically convert .doc ?...
	No.  Mailman uses the text-mode browser called lynx to make an 
attempt to convert HTML-formatted documents into a readable text 
format, if you configure it to convert HTML.  It does not attempt to 
perform any other kind of conversion.  This is something that you 
would need to do yourself.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to set up an archive of current and past city council public notices.

2004-07-17 Thread Don Saklad
  Thank you Brad Knowles !

  ...not being a programmer, how could it get set up so that anyone and
  everyone might read the current and archived public notices of
  council committees public hearings ?...


  Here's an example of contrary Boston city council's
  public records that city of boston city council offices are
  not willing to make available on the web with the full text
  of the public document nor by email formatted in plain text ASCII


 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
 this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
 
 --_=_NextPart_000_01C46398.58386048
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C46398.58386048
 
 
 --_=_NextPart_001_01C46398.58386048
 Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Please note in addition to  the Human Rights Committee notice attached,
 earlier a hearing notice on Docket #0265 scheduled for Wednesday  July 7 was
 sent.  Previously announced for 6:00pm It is know scheduled for 1:00 pm
  
  
 REVISED COUNCIL CALENDAR ATTACHED
  
  
 Cheryl Rankin
 City Council
 617 635-3040
  
 
 
 --_=_NextPart_001_01C46398.58386048
 Content-Type: text/html;
  charset=iso-8859-1
 
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
 HTMLHEAD
 META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 
 META content=MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400 name=GENERATOR/HEAD
 BODY style=COLOR: #00; FONT-FAMILY: Bradley Hand ITC 
 hb_focus_attach=true
 DIVSPAN class=489560820-06072004STRONGPlease note in addition to nbsp;the 
 Human Rights Committee notice attached, earlier a hearing notice on Docket #0265 
 scheduled for Wednesdaynbsp; July 7 was sent/STRONG.nbsp; FONT 
 color=#ff size=4STRONGPreviously announced for 6:00pm It is know 
 scheduled for 1:00 pm/STRONG/FONT/SPAN/DIV
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 size=4/FONT/STRONG/SPANnbsp;/DIV
 DIVSPAN class=489560820-06072004STRONGFONT color=#ff 
 size=4/FONT/STRONG/SPANnbsp;/DIV
 DIVSPAN class=489560820-06072004STRONGFONT color=#ff size=4REVISED 
 COUNCIL CALENDAR ATTACHED/FONT/STRONG/SPAN/DIV
 DIVnbsp;/DIV
 DIVnbsp;/DIV
 DIVFONT size=2STRONGCheryl Rankin/STRONG/FONT/DIV
 DIVFONT size=2STRONGCity Council/STRONG/FONT/DIV
 DIVFONT size=2STRONG617 635-3040/STRONG/FONT/DIV
 DIVnbsp;/DIV
 P/P/BODY/HTML
 
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  name=Doc1_.doc
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: attachment;
  filename=Doc1_.doc
 
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 EAAAigEAAAD+AIYAAACH
 
 
 ...
 
 
 
 
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 Content-Type: application/msword;
  name=notice1.doc
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: attachment;
  filename=notice1.doc
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to set up an archive of current and past city council public notices.

2004-07-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:22 AM -0400 2004-07-17, Don Saklad wrote:
   Here's an example of contrary Boston city council's
   public records that city of boston city council offices are
   not willing to make available on the web with the full text
   of the public document nor by email formatted in plain text ASCII
	Note that there are some freely available programs to convert 
Microsoft Word documents to HTML and other forms.  For example, see 
the program wv, http://freshmeat.net/projects/wv/.  You could use 
programs like this (or StarOffice) to do the conversion and then post 
the resulting documents to the mailing list.

	It shouldn't be too hard to work up a way to automatically pull 
down the latest documents, convert them, and then post the 
conversions (or the links to the conversions) to the mailing list.

	However, all this would need to be done outside of Mailman. 
There are no facilities within the current version to execute 
arbitrary format conversion programs (such as wv), and I think this 
would represent a serious security risk if someone tried to add the 
feature.  Supporting simple automated HTML conversion via lynx is 
potentially dangerous enough, I don't think anyone would want to go 
beyond that.

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[Mailman-Users] Setting up list for the first time

2004-07-17 Thread Lindsay Teychenne
I have started setting up mailing lists provided by a VPS hosting 
service (using PLESK as a management tool). I have put this problem 
to them and have not received a particularly useful set of responses 
i.e after many support exchanges I still have the problem.

When I configure Mailman, everything appears to be Ok and accepts 
changes I have made. One big problem, however, is that it doesn't 
work.

I have been using macjordomo for some years now and I understand that 
the philosophy is different but I have headed down a number of dead 
ends (mainly to do with DNS) in trying to troubleshoot the problem.

Here are the symptoms, having subscribed people using mass subscription
1	if I post a message to the list (from a members email client) 
ie [EMAIL PROTECTED], it appears to have been successful, I don't get 
any bad address replies. But no-one on the list receives the message.

2	There are no archives in the list info, It states that no 
postings have been received.

3	If someone subscribes using the listinfo page, they don't get 
a subscription acknowledgement and they don't appear in the list of 
subscribers under Membership list in Membership management at the 
admin pages.

I am hoping this is an easily rectifiable problem. the helpdesk at 
the VPS hosting service have been getting me to try to resolve some 
DNS issues which i believe I have done and still get the same 
problems. I have deleted lists and started new ones - all with the 
same results.

Hope someone can help.
PS I tried to subscribe to List Owners from the Python page but the 
links didn't work.

thanks
Lindsay
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[Mailman-Users] error indexing message by date in archive

2004-07-17 Thread Guillaume Rousse
The attached testcase mbox, when processed by the archive script, 
wrongly index the first mail to currente date (july 2004) instead of its 
real date (february 2002). CUriously, the second one is OK. Any idea ?

I'm using backported package 2.1.2-6.99.99.jones.0 on Debian, if it matters.
katu3:/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/plf-discuss.mbox# 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch --wipe -s 0 -e 1 plf-discuss
#0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
figuring article archives
2004-July
#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
figuring article archives
2002-February
Updating index files for archive [2004-July]
  Date
  Subject
  Author
  Thread
Computing threaded index
Updating HTML for article 0
Updating index files for archive [2002-February]
  Date
  Subject
  Author
  Thread
Computing threaded index
Updating HTML for article 1
Pickling archive state into 
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/plf-discuss/pipermail.pck

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following on plf-disccus ml..

Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Guys, i would like to advance on this issue, as it is the last one to solve
 before going public.

[...]

 But maybe mdk people, who have more experience on this, or people in charge
 of other arch/distributions have better idea.

the mdk arch is almost the same:
05/02 14:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/BIG/distrib% ls
8.1@  cooker/  incoming/  ppc/  rawhide/  stable@  unsupported@  updates@ vitamin/
05/02 14:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/BIG/distrib% cd cooker
05/02 14:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/BIG/distrib/cooker% ll
total 72
lrwxrwxrwx1 mandrake root5 Dec 14 21:10 cooker - i586//
lrwxrwxrwx1 mandrake rpm13 Dec 14 21:38 ppc - ../ppc/cooker/
drwxrwsr-x3 mandrake rpm  4096 Aug  2  2001 ia64/
drwxr-xr-x9 mandrake rpm  4096 Feb  5 11:48 i586/
drwxr-xr-x7 mandrake rpm  4096 Sep  1  2000 contrib/
drwxrwsr-x6 mandrake alpha4096 Sep 11  2000 alpha/
drwxr-xr-x7 mandrake rpm  4096 Jan  2 12:21 ../
drwxr-xr-x7 mandrake rpm  4096 Oct 10 17:20 ./
drwxrwxr-x2 mandrake rpm 49152 Feb  5 14:02 SRPMS/

thus i vote for your proposal :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up list for the first time

2004-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lindsay Teychenne wrote:

Here are the symptoms, having subscribed people using mass subscription

1  if I post a message to the list (from a members email client) 
ie [EMAIL PROTECTED], it appears to have been successful, I don't get 
any bad address replies. But no-one on the list receives the message.

2  There are no archives in the list info, It states that no 
postings have been received.

3  If someone subscribes using the listinfo page, they don't get 
a subscription acknowledgement and they don't appear in the list of 
subscribers under Membership list in Membership management at the 
admin pages.


What's in your Mailman log files?


PS I tried to subscribe to List Owners from the Python page but the 
links didn't work.

That list is currently off line. See
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037775.html

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[Mailman-Users] Bug or unintentional feature? msg_header/footer becomes MIME part with content filtering

2004-07-17 Thread JP Hindin

Greetings all;

One of our customers discovered what appears to be a rather odd happening
in our install of MM 2.1.4.

When content filtering is turned on AND the message has had an attachment
scrubbed, any msg_header and/or msg_footer's suddenly become their own
MIME part.
If there is no attachment, the header/footers are inserted as normal. If
content filtering is turned off, header/footers are normal.
When there are no header/footers, no additional MIME parts are inserted.

This creates a rather screwy message for their eMail clients
(headers/footers can appear as attachments), and is naturally
undesirable.

What's the solution, oh wise ones? (Asides from having no headers/footers)
Is this fixed in 2.1.5, is it not a recognised bug? Am I missing
something?

Thanks for your help;

JP Hindin


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Setup

2004-07-17 Thread Wild Horse
I am in the process of setting up mailman version 2.1.5 for one of my clients. For 
some reason, mailman is not sending individual posts when I test the list. It is 
placing the test posts into the archives.

Would someone please assist me in getting this working correctly?

Wild Horse
Wild Horse Web Design

PS... This is my first attempt at getting mailman to work.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to set up an archive of current and past city council public notices.

2004-07-17 Thread Don Saklad
It would not be too hard for a programmer !

Where would there be anyone who might set it up ?...
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Setup

2004-07-17 Thread Wild Horse
Sorry, I forgot to make a post... I found out what the problem was and the
mailing list is fully functional now.

I do have another question, is it possible to edit the email template so
that the solid bars don't appear above and below the message?

Wild Horse
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- Original Message - 
From: Yogesh Subhash Talekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Setup



 Can you paste some logs for more info ?
 1. What does your MTA (postfix/sendmai) logs say?
 2. What does Mailman log in smtp or smtp-failure logs say?
 3. You said you can see the posts in archive ... have you configured your
 test list to have moderation? If yes then logon to the list's website as
 Administrator and approve those pending messeages

 But if you don't get any clue .. paste the logs as per point 1  2

 --yogesh


  I am in the process of setting up mailman version 2.1.5 for one of my
  clients. For some reason, mailman is not sending individual posts when I
  test the list. It is placing the test posts into the archives.
 
  Would someone please assist me in getting this working correctly?
 
  Wild Horse
  Wild Horse Web Design
 
  PS... This is my first attempt at getting mailman to work.
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