[Mailman-Users] Bug encountered after archive private/public option change
Hi, Sorry for bugging you with this problem again but my sys admin is ill for two weeks and our mailman server used for an important project is down since I tried to change in the archive menu the option of archive visibility from public to private. I have the following message on the web interface: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 we're sorry, we hit a bug! And in the error log file: Jan 04 10:05:21 2006 admin(14840): admin(14840): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -] admin(14840): [- Traceback --] admin(14840): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(14840): File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 110, in run_main admin(14840): main() admin(14840): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 200, in main admin(14840): mlist.Save() admin(14840): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 529, in Save admin(14840): self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() admin(14840): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 235, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir admin(14840): breaklink(pubdir) admin(14840): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 55, in breaklink admin(14840): os.unlink(link) admin(14840): OSError: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/public/members' How may I fix this problem to be able to log in manage again this list? Thanks ins advance Simon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] permission denied error on sending mails to mailinglist
Mayb this will make it clearer. Postfix is installed using yum install postfix. While mailman is compiled from source with the following options: ./configure --with-mail-gid=postfix --with-cgi-gid=apache However, I keep encountering errors where postfix is unable to execute the wrapper for /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The errors on my maillog are here: fatal: execvp /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman : Permission denied Can anyone point me in the right direction? Posting to postfix doesnt seem to yield any remedies. Thanks On 1/4/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dylan lim wrote: This is what I have done: I cd into my /usr/local/mailman directory. Did a chown mailman.mailman scripts chown mailman.mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman chmod 2755 scripts Actually, the scripts directory should be 2775. The wrappers that should be 2755 are /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman and /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/*, but the cgi-bin/* wrappers are probably OK if the web interface works. chmod 2755 /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman But I still got the same error. At this point, run bin/check_perms -f as root until you get no errors. That should fix most permissions. Then if Postfix still can't execute the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper for no permission (with status 1), and you can't figure out why, you might try asking on a Postfix group or list. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] FIX - RE: Bug encountered after archive private/public optionchange
Hi again I found the problem and a workaround: Problem: in /archive/public normally I should only found symb link to directories located in /private. But on our system (and I don't know why) there was no symb link but directories with archives files. Fix: I deleted the directory of the list in /public and replaced it by a correct symb link pointing to ../private/myList (containing all archives files) And it works again S. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon ALEXANDRE Sent: mercredi 4 janvier 2006 10:46 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bug encountered after archive private/public optionchange Hi, Sorry for bugging you with this problem again but my sys admin is ill for two weeks and our mailman server used for an important project is down since I tried to change in the archive menu the option of archive visibility from public to private. I have the following message on the web interface: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 we're sorry, we hit a bug! And in the error log file: Jan 04 10:05:21 2006 admin(14840): @@@ @ admin(14840): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -] admin(14840): [- Traceback --] admin(14840): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(14840): File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 110, in run_main admin(14840): main() admin(14840): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 200, in main admin(14840): mlist.Save() admin(14840): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 529, in Save admin(14840): self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() admin(14840): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 235, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir admin(14840): breaklink(pubdir) admin(14840): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 55, in breaklink admin(14840): os.unlink(link) admin(14840): OSError: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/public/members' How may I fix this problem to be able to log in manage again this list? Thanks ins advance Simon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- users/simon.alexandre%40cetic.be Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw- mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Getting my mailing list
Okay... I have asked this question in the past and still cannot find a simple, layman's way of getting my membership list downloaded. Some of you have been very kind and told me some ways using cron jobs and stuff like that but to be honest that is over my head unless you tell me point by point the exact things to do. My goal is to get my list downloaded and then create a NEW list on another server but I do not want to manually type all the email addresses again (though there are only 62 addresses). Also, why doesn't mailman have this feature built in? It seems that this would be a normal thing to want to do from time to time for backup purposes. Other than that I think the program is wonderful. Thanks for your help... Coram Deo, William F. Hill, Jr. Member, Calvary Reformed Presbyterian Church, PCA Hampton, VA. USA http://www.rtrc.net http://www.theparchment.org The Parchment -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Two questions
Hello everyone, My organization makes extensive use of multiple Mailman lists, and I am involved in the administration of a couple “easy” lists. But there are two things I would like to do that I can’t seem to find out how to do. Maybe one of you can tell me what to do. 1. (Seemingly simple question) How can I print out a complete list of the names and email addresses of all members of the list? 2. I have a list that was once used for a one-time mailing, and I now need to remove all of the subscribers from it, without them receiving un-subscribed messages. Unfortunately, I don’t have the original list I mass-subscribed (which I know if I had, I could simply do a mass-unsubscribe). Is there an easy way to do this? Thanks, in advance for your help (assuming someone has the answers. Bob Tourkow -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 1/3/2006 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting my mailing list
At 6:05 AM -0500 2006-01-04, William F. Hill, Jr. wrote: Some of you have been very kind and told me some ways using cron jobs and stuff like that but to be honest that is over my head unless you tell me point by point the exact things to do. My goal is to get my list downloaded and then create a NEW list on another server but I do not want to manually type all the email addresses again (though there are only 62 addresses). The e-mail interface is probably the simplest method, but the problem is that some (or all) of the addresses may be hidden from you via this method. The other methods are going to be more complete, but as you point out they are also more complex. You may want to go ahead and try the e-mail method and see what that gives you, as compared to what you can see via the web interface. Also, why doesn't mailman have this feature built in? It seems that this would be a normal thing to want to do from time to time for backup purposes. It's kind of like asking why a pen doesn't work like a pencil. It just wasn't designed that way. It was designed to do other things that a pencil can't do. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Two questions
On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:37, Bob Tourkow wrote: Hello everyone, My organization makes extensive use of multiple Mailman lists, and I am involved in the administration of a couple “easy” lists. But there are two things I would like to do that I can’t seem to find out how to do. Maybe one of you can tell me what to do. 1. (Seemingly simple question) How can I print out a complete list of the names and email addresses of all members of the list? in your mailman/bin directory type: ./list_members --fullnames listname 2. I have a list that was once used for a one-time mailing, and I now need to remove all of the subscribers from it, without them receiving un-subscribed messages. in your mailman/bin directory type: ./remove_members --all --nouserack listname /thomas -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting my mailing list
William == William F Hill, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William I have asked this question in the past and still cannot William find a simple, layman's way of getting my membership list William downloaded. One way: Go to the list information page using your web browser. It usually has a URL like http://SERVER.DOM/lists/listinfo/LIST or http://SERVER.DOM/mailman/lists/listinfo/LIST where SERVER.DOM is the name of the server and list is the name of your list. (My listserver is heavily customized, so it probably is not anything like yours; maybe somebody else can fill you in on the usual setup.) Somewhere on that page there should be a box to log in as the administrator, next to a button that says Visit Subscriber List. The necessary address is probably printed at the bottom of the page where it says XXX list run by YYY at .COM. Don't use the word at, use the at-sign to get the admin address [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The password should the one you use to manage your list. The page you get will have the member roster you want. (However, if you have well-informed users, some may have turned off display of their addresses. For those users you will have to go to the membership management page. This page should have almost everybody, though.) You can copy and paste the list from there into another browser window with the membership management page for the new list/new server. You may need to enter carriage returns by hand so that there is one address per line. The rest you pick up by hand from the membership management page. Another way: save the membership management pages to files, and edit them into the format that mass subscribe expects. Depending on your skill with the editor and the features of your editor this may be prohibitively tedious, or surprisingly easy. William Also, why doesn't mailman have this feature built in? It William seems that this would be a normal thing to want to do William from time to time for backup purposes. Mailman was written by and for people who run mailing list servers. They have direct access to the files, so no problem in getting those lists. It was quite unexpected that Mailman would be so successful in simplifying administrative tasks that mass-market Internet providers would be using it to allow just about anybody to run their own lists. That history, combined with the fact that most list administrators either do have access or don't need a copy of the list, has meant that a straightforward way to do this task hasn't been implemented yet. As for backup, in most cases the server host provides regular on-line and offsite back up; a backup by the list admin should not be necessary. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of TsukubaTennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can do free software business; ask what your business can do for free software. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] merge archives
Thank you Mark! - Original Message - From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] merge archives Manuel Kissoyan wrote: We saved one of the accounts archives and then deleted and re-created the mailing list, were running for a week, now we need merge the saved archives with the existing one after the list re-creation. If were another month is easy but how you merge same month archives? If you saved the old archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file, just concatenate the old and new files to make a archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox that contains all the messages, and then rebuild the archives with bin/arch --wipe listname If you didn't save the old archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file, you can make an approximate reconstruction by editing the old archives/private/listname/-m.txt file to unobscure the email addresses. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about ban_list...
Bryan Carbonnell wrote: I applied the ht://dig patches to 2.1.7 on my test box with no problems. IIRC there were just a few ofsets for a few hunks. So it appears to apply cleanly. Agreed... the upgrade seemed to go very smoothly last night. Best, --Glenn -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman or postfix problem?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Command died with status 2: /usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman post rxtesttuesday. Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group mailman, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group tcwaters. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mailman, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=tcwaters'. I ask if this is mailman or postfix because I was trying to move the mail lists to a new server, so I have handled the mailman files, but never touched the Postfix files. Is this a file permissions issue? Thx -- Thomas Waters Director of Information and Communication Services University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy 412-383-7471 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pharmacy.pitt.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] permission denied error on sending mails to mailinglist
dylan lim wrote: Mayb this will make it clearer. Postfix is installed using yum install postfix. While mailman is compiled from source with the following options: ./configure --with-mail-gid=postfix --with-cgi-gid=apache The --with-mail-gid=postfix doesn't come into play yet, because you aren't getting that far. This causes the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper to check that it was invoked from the postfix group to prevent just anyone from running it. In your case it isn't being executed because the OS is saying postfix doesn't have permission to run it. However, I keep encountering errors where postfix is unable to execute the wrapper for /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The errors on my maillog are here: fatal: execvp /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman : Permission denied Can anyone point me in the right direction? Posting to postfix doesnt seem to yield any remedies. Thanks What happens if you log in as the postfix user/group (or su to the postfix user/group) and try to run the wrapper? /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman should produce Usage: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman program [args...] or something similar? If you get permission denied, you have to solve that. If you don't, you have to figure out what is different between your doing it and Postfix's doing it. BTW, I believe that Postfix will try to execute the wrapper as the user/group that owns the aliases.db file that contains the mailman aliases. This may not be consistent with your --with-mail-gid=postfix configure option. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages to list-owners
Greetings All, I have just joined this list and I hope that I am not cluttering it up with an easy or common question. I have spent quite a bit of time searching Google, the list archive, and FAQ without success for the answer. I work for a library organization which runs ~100 different lists for various library and reference resources. These lists are moderated by a few dozen individuals. I have recently implemented SpamAssassin with Mailman on our server, using the spamd.py and spamassassin.py handlers described here: http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ The spamd/spamassassin handlers are called with GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(1, 'SpamAssassin') in mm_cfg.py. This method has far exceeded our expectations for reducing the amount of spam held for moderation, but it does not seem to have any effect on spam messages sent to the *-owner@ or *-request@ addresses. It would appear that all messages to those addresses pass straight through without being scanned by the handlers, leaving phishing scams in our moderators' inboxes by the hundreds. I never see anything related to these in the mailman logs. We have configured /etc/postfix/aliases for each list as: ## test mailing list test: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post test test-admin:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin test test-owner:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner test etc... I had assumed that since a similar process is used to resolve the correct address when posting to the list or sending to the owner that the spam handler would respond similarly to each. Could anyone recommend a fix or a how-to for this? It does seem like a question which would have been asked and answered many times over but I have not been able to find the info and apologize if I missed it in a FAQ. Using Mailman 2.1.2 Spamassassin 3.1.0 Thanks very much, Michael Berkowski --- MINITEX Library Information Network / MnLINK University of Minnesota -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Two questions
Bob Tourkow wrote: 1. (Seemingly simple question) How can I print out a complete list of the names and email addresses of all members of the list? The command line tool bin/list_members Run it with the --help option for instructions. If you don't have access to this and there is no one else in your organization that does, see the thread at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-January/048473.html 2. I have a list that was once used for a one-time mailing, and I now need to remove all of the subscribers from it, without them receiving un-subscribed messages. Unfortunately, I dont have the original list I mass-subscribed (which I know if I had, I could simply do a mass-unsubscribe). Is there an easy way to do this? bin/remove_members Run it with the --help option for instructions. If you don't have access to this and there is no one else in your organization that does, see the above thread for ways to make a list you can use in a mass unsub. Or just delete the list if you can. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages tolist-owners
Michael Berkowski wrote: I have recently implemented SpamAssassin with Mailman on our server, using the spamd.py and spamassassin.py handlers described here: http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ The spamd/spamassassin handlers are called with GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(1, 'SpamAssassin') in mm_cfg.py. This method has far exceeded our expectations for reducing the amount of spam held for moderation, but it does not seem to have any effect on spam messages sent to the *-owner@ or *-request@ addresses. It would appear that all messages to those addresses pass straight through without being scanned by the handlers, leaving phishing scams in our moderators' inboxes by the hundreds. I never see anything related to these in the mailman logs. There is a separate pipeline for messages to the owner, so if you want to filter these, you need to add OWNER_PIPELINE.insert(1, 'SpamAssassin') in mm_cfg.py. Also note that this and the GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(1, 'SpamAssassin') insert SpamAssassin after Mailman's own SpamDetect module. It doesn't really matter, but if you want to put it first, use xxx_PIPELINE.insert(0, 'SpamAssassin'). OWNER_PIPELINE will directly take care of messages to -owner addresses. Messages to the -admin and -bounces (admin is a synonym for bounces) address will not be filtered, but if they are unrecognized and forwarded to the owner, they will be processed through the OWNER_PIPELINE at that point. Messages to the -request address will not be filtered, but spam to this address is normally just returned to the sender with an error message, not forwarded to an owner/moderator. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages tolist-owners
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: Messages to the -request address will not be filtered, but spam to this address is normally just returned to the sender with an error message, not forwarded to an owner/moderator. Except spam often has a forged sender address, so sending an error to this address is usless at best, at worst part of a DDOS attack on the poor guy who's address is forged. I would be interested in this as a way of preventing mailman from replying to anything that might be spam, so the ability to filter the -request addresses would be a good idea. == Chris Candreva -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages tolist-owners
Thanks for the response, Mark. I set this up and threw a few dozen messages at it with a VB test spamming macro. It works perfectly. Will messages discarded from OWNER_PIPELINE appear in any log as those discarded from GLOBAL_PIPELINE appear in vette? Thanks again, Michael --- MINITEX Library Information Network / MnLINK University of Minnesota There is a separate pipeline for messages to the owner, so if you want to filter these, you need to add OWNER_PIPELINE.insert(1, 'SpamAssassin') in mm_cfg.py. Also note that this and the GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(1, 'SpamAssassin') insert SpamAssassin after Mailman's own SpamDetect module. It doesn't really matter, but if you want to put it first, use xxx_PIPELINE.insert(0, 'SpamAssassin'). OWNER_PIPELINE will directly take care of messages to -owner addresses. Messages to the -admin and -bounces (admin is a synonym for bounces) address will not be filtered, but if they are unrecognized and forwarded to the owner, they will be processed through the OWNER_PIPELINE at that point. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages tolist-owners
Michael Berkowski wrote: Will messages discarded from OWNER_PIPELINE appear in any log as those discarded from GLOBAL_PIPELINE appear in vette? Yes. They are processed by IncomingRunner just like normal posts. Only the pipeline is different. Anything that results in a discarded message will be logged to vette by IncomingRunner just as for normal posts.. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages tolist-owners
I see now why they didn't first appear in the log. They never passed to the SpamAssassin handler at all because I had a typo in my OWNER_PIPELINE.insert() line. My test spams were just being dropped altogether. I've corrected it and the owner messages are now being properly scored and logged in vette. Thanks, you've been really helpful. -Michael --- MINITEX Library Information Network / MnLINK University of Minnesota -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:04 PM To: Michael Berkowski; mailman-users@python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages tolist- owners Michael Berkowski wrote: Will messages discarded from OWNER_PIPELINE appear in any log as those discarded from GLOBAL_PIPELINE appear in vette? Yes. They are processed by IncomingRunner just like normal posts. Only the pipeline is different. Anything that results in a discarded message will be logged to vette by IncomingRunner just as for normal posts.. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages tolist-owners
At 10:35 AM -0800 2006-01-04, Mark Sapiro wrote: OWNER_PIPELINE will directly take care of messages to -owner addresses. Messages to the -admin and -bounces (admin is a synonym for bounces) address will not be filtered, but if they are unrecognized and forwarded to the owner, they will be processed through the OWNER_PIPELINE at that point. Also keep in mind that SpamAssassin can be integrated into the MTA instead of Mailman, which would give everyone on the server (and everything passing through) the same anti-spam benefits. Combined with Mailman 2.1.6 (or later), and you can use the anti-spam features within Mailman to automatically throw away messages that have been marked by SpamAssassin. More information on these methods can be found in the Mailman FAQ Wizard. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] problem running Mailman on 2.6.11.7
Hi all. I'm attempting to get Mailman running on a Slackware-10.0 machine with 2.6.11.7 and Grsecurity installed. After running check_perms_grsecurity.py and then running ./mailmanctl start, I received several errors such as this: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ? import CheckFixUid File /usr/local/mailman/bin/CheckFixUid.py, line 6, in ? class CheckFixUid: File /usr/local/mailman/bin/CheckFixUid.py, line 12, in CheckFixUid if os.geteuid() != uid: NameError: name 'uid' is not defined I googled for checkfixuid, and the closest I came to a fix is http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/msg126675.html Unfortunately, I can't test that patch since its been packaged within an RPM. Any other ideas on how to fix this are appreciated. Thanks. -- Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. -- Benjamin Franklin pgpCYaRjsfufp.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem running Mailman on 2.6.11.7
Igor Gueths wrote: Hi all. I'm attempting to get Mailman running on a Slackware-10.0 machine with 2.6.11.7 and Grsecurity installed. After running check_perms_grsecurity.py and then running ./mailmanctl start, I received several errors such as this: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 76, in ? import CheckFixUid File /usr/local/mailman/bin/CheckFixUid.py, line 6, in ? class CheckFixUid: File /usr/local/mailman/bin/CheckFixUid.py, line 12, in CheckFixUid if os.geteuid() != uid: NameError: name 'uid' is not defined I googled for checkfixuid, and the closest I came to a fix is http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/msg126675.html Unfortunately, I can't test that patch since its been packaged within an RPM. Any other ideas on how to fix this are appreciated. Thanks. check_perms_grsecurity.py and its 'child' CheckFixUid.py are user contributed software. I suggest you follow up with the contributor. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] problems running genaliases
Hi all, While trying to generate the data/aliases.db files using genaliases, I have encountered a problem: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./genaliases, line 116, in ? main() File ./genaliases, line 106, in main MTA.create(mlist, nolock=True, quiet=quiet) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 232, in create _update_maps() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 53, in _update_maps raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) I am not sure how to resolve this. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] sorting out bounces
Eric == Eric S Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric and obviously something is broken with my environment and Eric has been for years with various distributions. When the Eric monthly notices go out, the human associated with the Eric mailman address gets all of the bounces. I'm coming in very late on this thread, but I just want to point out one thing. Monthly password reminders are sent from the site list because they contain the passwords for ALL the user's list memberships at that site (or virtual domain), and thus don't come from a single list. Thus when a password reminder bounces, the bounce goes to the site list. I don't know why this is a problem in general, since if the bounce is recognizable, it is usually for an address that isn't a member of the list and is just ignored. Meanwhile, if the address is truly bouncing, posts from the list(s) it is a member of should be bouncing and processed as normal bounces for the list(s). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help sending to multiple lists
Andy Bardwell wrote: I am working with a community radio station which has multiple lists in Mailman that are used to contact volunteers. A volunteer can be on several of the lists. We frequently want to send to all volunteers. Is there a way to send to all the lists, with out duplicates? One way this could happen would be to merge all the lists, eliminate duplicates, and send to the resulting list. Is there a script that will do this or some other way of accomplishing sending an email to multiple lists without duplicates? Any suggestions welcome. As noted in the reply at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-January/048458.html to your previous post, See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.005.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help !!! Having Subgroups/Subsets a group
Kabilan L wrote: I have Centos sever having mailman-2.1.5-33.rhel4 installed and configured it is working fine.I have LDAP running on my server.I have an doubt in the creating new lists/groups.I want to have subgroups.For example i have students suppose in ms group phd group btech group Here all of them are students i don't want to add their ids to the group students ratheri i want this students |-|| msphd btech that is ms/phd/btech subgroups of students. Is it possible? It seems like you want an umbrella list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.005.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems running genaliases
dylan lim wrote: While trying to generate the data/aliases.db files using genaliases, I have encountered a problem: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./genaliases, line 116, in ? main() File ./genaliases, line 106, in main MTA.create(mlist, nolock=True, quiet=quiet) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 232, in create _update_maps() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 53, in _update_maps raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.009.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems running genaliases
Hi, Thanks for your help. I have read this faq before. However, my problem is that I do not have aliases or aliases.db file at all after I have done my compilation of mailman. Creating a newlist and running genaliases to generate these files gave me the above errors. Thank you for your time. On 1/5/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dylan lim wrote: While trying to generate the data/aliases.db files using genaliases, I have encountered a problem: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./genaliases, line 116, in ? main() File ./genaliases, line 106, in main MTA.create(mlist, nolock=True, quiet=quiet) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 232, in create _update_maps() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 53, in _update_maps raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.009.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
