Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove
On 3/19/08, Barry Warsaw wrote: On python.org this is postmaster. Do many sites split the responsibilities between mail and list care and feeding? Some sites do, but on the ones I run I usually have a separate listmaster and postmaster address anyway. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove
On 3/19/08, Rich Kulawiec wrote: While I'm blabbing about this, I'd like to float another idea related to RFC 2142. We have postmaster (mail), webmaster (web) and quite often hostmaster (DNS). There's a hell of a lot more than that, and 2142 is not the only RFC to be looking at for this kind of thing. How about listmaster, which would expand to the person or persons responsible for the overall care and feeding of mailing lists associated with this domain? We have that on the sites I run. What about it? -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 05:34:18PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: On python.org this is postmaster. Do many sites split the responsibilities between mail and list care and feeding? I know that some do, some don't; but beyond that, I don't have much of a feel for how it's done across the 'net. I thought that perhaps raising the subject for discussion here might provide at least a few data points from this community. Locally, I've delegated responsibilities equivalent to what I think of as listmaster to people who are trained to work with Mailman and majordomo, but not yet ready to dabble with sendmail and postfix. I've also found it useful to add list-owners to the listmaster alias expansion in order to add some transparency to the process. (I split this off from postmaster because most of that traffic doesn't pertain to lists, and some of it involves private mail issues that don't need to be exposed to list-owners.) (Incidentally, I'm not aware of any current effort to update RFC 2142.) ---Rsk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Still sticking: gmail = fetchmail = mailman=postfix
On 3/19/08, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A group mismatch will result in the wrapper exiting with a non-zero status and issuing a message which should appear somewhere. Other errors should be logged in Mailman's error log. If it gets that far. I'm suspecting that there's a problem with a domain alias, which I'll want to test before going any further. If you want to verify the Mailman is working completely once a message hits the mailman/qfiles/in/ queue, you can use mailman/bin/inject to put a message in the in/ queue. I'm unclear on the use of mailman/bin/inject. The only options given are -l for list and -q for queue. Then it says filename is the name of the plaintext message file to inject. If omitted, standard input is used. Ok... but there doesn't seem to be any way to designate a file name (my obvious guess at -filename didn't do it), and without it a call to python inject -l testlist appears to be sitting there waiting for more input. Sorry to have to keep bothering the list with this stuff. I'm looking forward to getting it running smoothly and moving a bunch of lists over from a rather ancient listserv software. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Still sticking: gmail = fetchmail = mailman=postfix
bill christensen wrote: The only options given are -l for list and -q for queue. Then it says filename is the name of the plaintext message file to inject. If omitted, standard input is used. Ok... but there doesn't seem to be any way to designate a file name (my obvious guess at -filename didn't do it), and without it a call to python inject -l testlist appears to be sitting there waiting for more input. Sorry to have to keep bothering the list with this stuff. I'm looking forward to getting it running smoothly and moving a bunch of lists over from a rather ancient listserv software. End original message. - The file name is simply added as the last parameter of the command line. Like this: python inject -l testlist filename Otherwise, the script tries to read from STDIN. You do need to have something that passes as a valid e-mail message in the file. In other words, it needs appropriate headers (From:, To:, Message-id: at a minimum) and a valid message body terminated with a single line with a '.' and CRLF From the help emitted by the inject script: ./inject -h Inject a message from a file into Mailman's incoming queue. Usage: inject [options] [filename] Options: -h / --help Print this text and exit. -l listname --listname=listname The name of the list to inject this message to. Required. -q queuename --queue=queuename The name of the queue to inject the message to. The queuename must be one of the directories inside the qfiles directory. If omitted, the incoming queue is used. filename is the name of the plaintext message file to inject. If omitted, standard input is used. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove
On 3/20/08, Rich Kulawiec wrote: (Incidentally, I'm not aware of any current effort to update RFC 2142.) Not any current efforts to update 2142, no. But there are other standard role mailbox names that I've seen used and recommended, although I have not yet been able to locate a source for some of those. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
