Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
JRC Groups wrote: ### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. MTA = 'Postfix' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'dentserv.main.private' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'dentserv.main.private' Assuming that all your Mailman lists are/will be in the domain.com domain and that mail will be sent to addresses like l...@domain.com and web access to mailman will be via URLs beginning 'http://www.domain.com/' (if this will be 'http://domain.com/', drop the 'www.' below), change the above two lines to DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain.com' and add VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) The original error and your postconf -n post indicate that domain.com is not local in Postfix. Thus you also need to add here POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domain.com'] After editing mm_cfg.py as above, run sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url followed by sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases This should fix the mailman side of things, but I'm a bit confused. I think this will create/update the files aliases. aliases.db, virtual-mailman and virtual-mailman.db in the directory /usr/share/mailman/data/. My confusion is that your postconf -n had alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/var/mailman/data/aliases which says Mailman's aliases are in /var/mailman/data. This could be incorrect, or /var/mailman/data/ or /var/mailman/data/aliases* could be symlinks or Mailman might be configured with var-prefix = /var/mailman which would put the aliases* and virtual-mailman* files in /var/mailman/data/. I will assume the latter which means you should add hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman to virtual_alias_maps in Postfix main.cf to make it virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_users, hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman and then reload the Postfix service. In any case, the hash:/var/mailman/data/aliases in alias_maps and hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman in virtual_alias_maps should point to the files updated by Mailman's genaliases above. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] unsubscribe request
How can I add an unsubscribe request to the bottom of all emails sent out? Example: To unsubscribe select this link -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Spam emails
Recently I've started receiving spam messages submitted to by mailing list. How can I reject all email not submitted by members without having to add them to a list? Robert P. Schwartz CAS Group of Wyle Inc. 100 Quality Circle Huntsville, AL 35806 Phone: 256.922.4203 Fax: 256.922.4243 E-mail: robert.schwa...@wyle.commailto:robert.schwa...@wyle.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam emails
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: Recently I've started receiving spam messages submitted to by mailing list. How can I reject all email not submitted by members without having to add them to a list? Set the generic non-member action to discard. It's in privacy/sender filters. All non-members who aren't in any of the other non-member lists on that page will have their posts discarded. You can also set it to reject, but this will cause a rejection note to be sent, and if this mail is in fact spam it will probably cause backscatter, so use discard unless it's actual people doing the posting. Geoff. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam emails
On 12/8/2010 6:52 AM, Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: Recently I've started receiving spam messages submitted to by mailing list. How can I reject all email not submitted by members without having to add them to a list? There's an admin check box to reject discard non-member messages. Check the FAQ for more details. (That'll answer you other question, too). Also, are you spam-filtering before the email gets to mailman? It's a good idea. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How to add a footer to every user?
I would like to know how to add a footer to every user in my list and I want to let everybody in my list unsubscribe just clicking over a link that I will add in to the footer. How do you set this up in the web interface? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Footer shows up as attachment
I'm adding a footer to every email to allow user to unsubscribe. It is showing up as an attachment. I've set Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text? This conversion happens after MIME attachments have been stripped. To yes. But this is not working. When I post to this website my message is sent back with a footer to unsubscribe which is exactly what I want. Robert -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe request
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: How can I add an unsubscribe request to the bottom of all emails sent out? Example: To unsubscribe select this link Without modifying code or creating your own CGI, PHP, etc. process to do the unsubscribe, you can't have a one-click unsubscribe that doesn't require confirmation. What this list and others do is something like the following which takes you to a page with an unsubscribe button which requires confirmation by email or login to unsubscribe without confirmation. Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/mark%40msapiro.net The above is created with the text Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s in msg_footer. You could make this, e.g.. Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/mark%40msapiro.net?login-unsub=Unsubscribe to do the equivalent of clicking the Unsubscribe button on the options login page by putting Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s?login-unsub=Unsubscribe in msg_footer. Either of the above require the list to be personalized in order to work, and they can't be used with digest_footer because digests aren't personalized. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to add a footer to every user?
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: I would like to know how to add a footer to every user in my list and I want to let everybody in my list unsubscribe just clicking over a link that I will add in to the footer. How do you set this up in the web interface? See the reply to your unsubscribe request post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-December/070723.html. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer shows up as attachment
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: I'm adding a footer to every email to allow user to unsubscribe. It is showing up as an attachment. I've set Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text? This conversion happens after MIME attachments have been stripped. To yes. But this is not working. When I post to this website my message is sent back with a footer to unsubscribe which is exactly what I want. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9. To accomplish this with content filtering, you also need to set Should Mailman collapse multipart/alternative to its first part content? to Yes, and even that may not work with all posts depending on their original MIME structure. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer shows up as attachment
Schwartz, Robert - IS wrote: It is set to yes. I'll try submitting the message as plain text. In reply to: See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9. To accomplish this with content filtering, you also need to set Should Mailman collapse multipart/alternative to its first part content? to Yes, and even that may not work with all posts depending on their original MIME structure. Posting plain text only will work, but if this is a discussion list, you can't control what others post. You may need to remove all HTML rather than converting it by putting something like multipart text/plain in pass_mime_types (i.e., no text/html), and setting an appropriate filter_action to handle HTML only posts. Or you can try the mimedefang method referenced in the above FAQ. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
Mark, I am extremely grateful that you took the time to help me with this issue. In order for me to make the changes you recommended please allow me to ask some truly basic questions since I have no experience with Unix or editing system files. Is there a simpler way than Terminal (command line) to edit these files and then resave them ? Something along the lines of a text editor. Or do I need to use Terminal to do it ? In this case, if Terminal is necessary, can you guide on how to take a step by step approach to getting it done ? I have never edited a file (specially a system file) in Terminal before and don't know how to go about it. On 12/8/10 8:13 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: JRC Groups wrote: ### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. MTA = 'Postfix' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'dentserv.main.private' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'dentserv.main.private' Assuming that all your Mailman lists are/will be in the domain.com domain and that mail will be sent to addresses like l...@domain.com and web access to mailman will be via URLs beginning 'http://www.domain.com/' (if this will be 'http://domain.com/', drop the 'www.' below), change the above two lines to Yes. The lists will all be associated with one single domain. I have the server set up for virtual hosting and the domain used for the lists is one of the virtual domains (not the primary domain). All lists will be set up under one single domain. At the moment I have only one list set up. I am trying to have it working right before I attempt to create other lists. DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain.com' and add VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) Where exactly do I add it ? Right below the two lines above ? The original error and your postconf -n post indicate that domain.com is not local in Postfix. Thus you also need to add here POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domain.com'] Where exactly do I add this line ? Is the location of the line in the file important or relevant ? After editing mm_cfg.py as above, run sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url followed by sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases This should fix the mailman side of things, but I'm a bit confused. I think this will create/update the files aliases. aliases.db, virtual-mailman and virtual-mailman.db in the directory /usr/share/mailman/data/. My confusion is that your postconf -n had alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/var/mailman/data/aliases which says Mailman's aliases are in /var/mailman/data. This could be incorrect, or /var/mailman/data/ or /var/mailman/data/aliases* could be symlinks or Mailman might be configured with var-prefix = /var/mailman which would put the aliases* and virtual-mailman* files in /var/mailman/data/. I will assume the latter which means you should add hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman to virtual_alias_maps in Postfix main.cf to make it virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_users, hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman How do add it ? and then reload the Postfix service. In OS X's Server Admin there is an option under the Mail tab that allows Mail services to be stopped and then restarted again. Will this reload Postfix as you recommend ? In any case, the hash:/var/mailman/data/aliases in alias_maps and hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman in virtual_alias_maps should point to the files updated by Mailman's genaliases above. How do I verify if it is doing it ? Thank you again for your help. Joe -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
JRC Groups wrote: I am extremely grateful that you took the time to help me with this issue. In order for me to make the changes you recommended please allow me to ask some truly basic questions since I have no experience with Unix or editing system files. Is there a simpler way than Terminal (command line) to edit these files and then resave them ? Something along the lines of a text editor. Or do I need to use Terminal to do it ? You can edit the files with the TextEdit application, but there may be serious issues with permissions or even navigating to the files in Finder or the TextEdit open dialog. I suggest you do the following: To change the postfix main.cf file, use the postconf command's -e option as in sudo postconf -e virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_users, hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman (above command is all on one line) See man postconf for details. To edit mm_cfg.py, in terminal you can do sudo /Applications/TextEdit.app/Comtents/MacOS/TextEdit /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (above command is all on one line) This will open the file in TextEdit in a way that you can save your changes. There may be better ways to do this. For example, on my Mac I have a 'root' user I can log on to. I would log on as this user and open terminal and then invoke the 'vi' editor on the files, but I can't explain how to use 'vi' as simply as I can explain the above. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
On 12/8/10 2:01 PM, JRC Groups at joemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a simpler way than Terminal (command line) to edit these files and then resave them ? Something along the lines of a text editor. Or do I need to use Terminal to do it ? In this case, if Terminal is necessary, can you guide on how to take a step by step approach to getting it done ? I have never edited a file (specially a system file) in Terminal before and don't know how to go about it. This is somewhat off-topic for the Mailman list but if you want to do any sort of advanced system administration on a Macintosh, you need, IMHO, to be familiar with Unix shell commands and related utility. The Mac OS X Terminal program just creates a shell process and window where you then execute shell commands. At a minimum, you need to be familiar with certain basic commands like ls (directory) and commands for creating (touch among others), renaming/MoVing (mv), and deleting/ReMoving (rm) files and directories (mkdir, mv, and rmdir respectively). You also need to be familiar with one of the standard text editors (vi or emacs) as well as commands for dealing with file ownership (chown) and permissions (chmod). -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
Mark, Again I can't thank you enough for all your help. I've done some research and received some advice from others on how to accomplish this with BBEdit which I have found to be a superbly simple and efficient way to accomplish this. I download the free trial demo and used it to edit mm_cfg.py file following your recommendations. I also ran the two sudo commands as you suggested. This is the output from the Terminal window: Last login: Tue Dec 7 18:19:11 on ttys000 dentserv:~ locadmin$ sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url Password: Importing fix_url... Running fix_url.fix_url()... Loading list implants (locked) Saving list Loading list mailman (locked) Saving list Finalizing dentserv:~ locadmin$ sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/genaliases dentserv:~ locadmin$ I am trying as I type this to continue with the second part of your recommendations. Where exactly do I find the Postfix main.cf file so that I can edit it also ? On a different note, why is the clock on top of the terminal window above displaying Dec 7 18:19:11 when it is now Dec 8, 4:41 pm here in California ? The clock on the menu bar of the server computer has the proper time but the Terminal window seems to be almost a day behind. Could this be a problem ? Thanks again, Joe On 12/8/10 3:51 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: JRC Groups wrote: I am extremely grateful that you took the time to help me with this issue. In order for me to make the changes you recommended please allow me to ask some truly basic questions since I have no experience with Unix or editing system files. Is there a simpler way than Terminal (command line) to edit these files and then resave them ? Something along the lines of a text editor. Or do I need to use Terminal to do it ? You can edit the files with the TextEdit application, but there may be serious issues with permissions or even navigating to the files in Finder or the TextEdit open dialog. I suggest you do the following: To change the postfix main.cf file, use the postconf command's -e option as in sudo postconf -e virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_users, hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman (above command is all on one line) See man postconf for details. To edit mm_cfg.py, in terminal you can do sudo /Applications/TextEdit.app/Comtents/MacOS/TextEdit /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (above command is all on one line) This will open the file in TextEdit in a way that you can save your changes. There may be better ways to do this. For example, on my Mac I have a 'root' user I can log on to. I would log on as this user and open terminal and then invoke the 'vi' editor on the files, but I can't explain how to use 'vi' as simply as I can explain the above. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:45:16 -0800, JRC Groups joemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: On a different note, why is the clock on top of the terminal window above displaying Dec 7 18:19:11 when it is now Dec 8, 4:41 pm here in California ? The clock on the menu bar of the server computer has the proper time but the Terminal window seems to be almost a day behind. Could this be a problem ? That's the last login date, i.e., the last date you logged in, which evidently was about a day ago. If you open up Terminal again it'll have changed to some time today. Also, might I recommend iTerm instead of Terminal? I can never get end and home to work properly in Terminal; they scroll up and down instead (which is fine for most Mac OS X apps, but the point of the Terminal is to be UNIX-y). They work in iTerm. Chris -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
Mark, I located the Postfix's main.cf file in /private/etc/postfix/main.cf and made the change you recommended. I then stopped Main services and restarted it. What is the best way to test if the list is now working properly ? Also, I followed a discussion on another forum where a new user reported having problems with OS X Server in regards to archives. According to him after using Mailman for a while he went to check for logs and archives only to found nothing there. What is the best way to set up Mailman now so that I have logs and (most importantly) archives of all posts that I can search in the future ? He also mentioned something about making the list private so that its contents wouldn't be search, found and indexed by search engines like Google. Is this even a possibility and in case it is what steps should I take to ensure the contents of my lists will remain private and only visible to those that are members ? Thank you again, Joe -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
Chris Tandiono wrote: That's the last login date, i.e., the last date you logged in, which evidently was about a day ago. Correct. If you open up Terminal again it'll have changed to some time today. No. In order to change the last login time, you have to actually log off and back on again. Simply quitting and reopening terminal won't do it. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
JRC Groups wrote: What is the best way to test if the list is now working properly ? Try to send a message to the list or maybe send a message with subject help to the list-request address. Also, I followed a discussion on another forum where a new user reported having problems with OS X Server in regards to archives. According to him after using Mailman for a while he went to check for logs and archives only to found nothing there. What is the best way to set up Mailman now so that I have logs and (most importantly) archives of all posts that I can search in the future ? Try running sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms -f If it runs cleanly (don't worry about the warning about archives/private being world searchable) logging and archiving should work. Also make sure your list's Mailman web admin Archiving Options - Archive messages? setting is Yes. He also mentioned something about making the list private so that its contents wouldn't be search, found and indexed by search engines like Google. Is this even a possibility and in case it is what steps should I take to ensure the contents of my lists will remain private and only visible to those that are members ? On the same Archiving Options page set archive_private to private, and yes, if archive_private is public, the archives are world accessible via the web (at least assuming the host is reachable), and will be indexed in search engines. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
Mark Sapiro wrote: Chris Tandiono wrote: If you open up Terminal again it'll have changed to some time today. No. In order to change the last login time, you have to actually log off and back on again. Simply quitting and reopening terminal won't do it. Nevermind! Chris is correct. I'm not sure what I did wrong when I checked this, but quitting and reopening terminal is sufficient to update the displayed last login time. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
On 12/8/10 5:26 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: JRC Groups wrote: What is the best way to test if the list is now working properly ? Try to send a message to the list or maybe send a message with subject help to the list-request address. I sent the message and this is what the log in Server Admin shows: Dec 8 17:48:13 dentserv postfix/smtpd[37996]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-gw0-f52.google.com[74.125.83.52]: 450 4.7.1 implants-requ...@3wforum.com: Recipient address rejected: Service is unavailable; from=joemailgro...@gmail.com to=implants-requ...@3wforum.com proto=ESMTP helo=mail-gw0-f52.google.com Dec 8 17:48:13 dentserv postfix/smtpd[37996]: disconnect from mail-gw0-f52.google.com[74.125.83.52] Also, I followed a discussion on another forum where a new user reported having problems with OS X Server in regards to archives. According to him after using Mailman for a while he went to check for logs and archives only to found nothing there. What is the best way to set up Mailman now so that I have logs and (most importantly) archives of all posts that I can search in the future ? Try running sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms -f If it runs cleanly (don't worry about the warning about archives/private being world searchable) logging and archiving should work. I ran it and the following is the output: dentserv:~ locadmin$ sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms -f Password: Warning: Private archive directory is other-executable (o+x). This could allow other users on your system to read private archives. If you're on a shared multiuser system, you should consult the installation manual on how to fix this. /private/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db owned by root (must be owned by _mailman (fixing) /private/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db permissions must be 066x (got 0100640) (fixing) Problems found: 2 Re-run as _mailman (or root) with -f flag to fix Also make sure your list's Mailman web admin Archiving Options - Archive messages? setting is Yes. I made the changes. He also mentioned something about making the list private so that its contents wouldn't be search, found and indexed by search engines like Google. Is this even a possibility and in case it is what steps should I take to ensure the contents of my lists will remain private and only visible to those that are members ? On the same Archiving Options page set archive_private to private, and yes, if archive_private is public, the archives are world accessible via the web (at least assuming the host is reachable), and will be indexed in search engines. Thank you, Mark. I am glad I've caught that before launching the list as it will hold discussions that are required to be maintained private and confidential (HIPAA law). Thank you, Mark. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.
JRC Groups wrote: I sent the message and this is what the log in Server Admin shows: Dec 8 17:48:13 dentserv postfix/smtpd[37996]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-gw0-f52.google.com[74.125.83.52]: 450 4.7.1 implants-requ...@3wforum.com: Recipient address rejected: Service is unavailable; from=joemailgro...@gmail.com to=implants-requ...@3wforum.com proto=ESMTP helo=mail-gw0-f52.google.com Dec 8 17:48:13 dentserv postfix/smtpd[37996]: disconnect from mail-gw0-f52.google.com[74.125.83.52] This is Apple Postfix's greylisting at work. googlemail should retry the send after a few minutes and it should succeed. See, e.g., http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10151235. Try running sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms -f If it runs cleanly (don't worry about the warning about archives/private being world searchable) logging and archiving should work. I ran it and the following is the output: dentserv:~ locadmin$ sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/check_perms -f Password: Warning: Private archive directory is other-executable (o+x). This could allow other users on your system to read private archives. If you're on a shared multiuser system, you should consult the installation manual on how to fix this. This is the warning I meant to ignore. /private/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db owned by root (must be owned by _mailman (fixing) /private/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db permissions must be 066x (got 0100640) (fixing) Problems found: 2 Re-run as _mailman (or root) with -f flag to fix You already ran it via sudo with -f so the problems with virtual-mailman.db should be fixed now. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives
Hello; I am trying to implement a search tool for Mailman Archives. In our system, there are more than 400 lists, and the size of their archives vary, since there are more than 10 years old lists addition to new lists. There are several alternatives. htdig, xapian etc. Which one do you recommend? Is there a practical tool which I can just install and implement, or is there an additional patch need? Thank you very much. Evrim AKMAN -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
