[Mailman-Users] Issue facing with mail delivery
Hello all, I am a new member of this mailing list. Currently I am running a list on Mailman 2.1.14-1. We are facing an issue that the E-mails sent by our subscribers are neither reaching to the list nore reaching to the inbox of any user subscribed to our mailing list. Members do not receive any error or bouncing notification while sending the mails, but it simply get disappeared after sent. I raised this issue to our web service provider and they have also refreshed their mail server but nothing is happening. I would be highly obliged if someone can let me know the possible reason of this problem and solutions to rectify the issue. Thanks, Amit Bhatt New Delhi, India -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
hello all, i'm using mailman 2.1.8. A user who acts as a moderator forgot his password. As administrator, i can reset a new password for the moderator, but is it possible to have a password reminder for the moderator? i know that mailman just needs a password to moderate the message, and don't need an email. But the email is stored in mailman, so i'm wondering if there is a form somewhere to permit the moderator to reset his password without admin action. thanks in advance for help, gerard -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue facing with mail delivery
Amit Bhatt wrote: Currently I am running a list on Mailman 2.1.14-1. We are facing an issue that the E-mails sent by our subscribers are neither reaching to the list nore reaching to the inbox of any user subscribed to our mailing list. Members do not receive any error or bouncing notification while sending the mails, but it simply get disappeared after sent. I raised this issue to our web service provider and they have also refreshed their mail server but nothing is happening. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9. Also, you or the hosting provider need to check the MTA logs on the Mailman server to see if the mail is even being delivered to Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
Gerard Henry wrote: i'm using mailman 2.1.8. A user who acts as a moderator forgot his password. As administrator, i can reset a new password for the moderator, but is it possible to have a password reminder for the moderator? No. List admin and moderator passwords are kept in an encrypted form and the plain text password is not retrievable. i know that mailman just needs a password to moderate the message, and don't need an email. But the email is stored in mailman, so i'm wondering if there is a form somewhere to permit the moderator to reset his password without admin action. No there is not. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Login as Mailman admin via URL parameters?
Hello all, just one thing that came to my mind: Since I administrate several mailing lists, it is always a bit complicated to retrieve the appropriate password from a password tool and then being able to log into the site. I know some Internet epplications, where administrators can log in using request parameters, such as http://myurl?user=userpassword=password Is this possible with mailman? It would save me quite some overhead, since often I just want to moderate a single email, which means log in procedure takes longer than the moderation process itself. Regards, Sascha. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
On 01/11/12 05:36 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Gerard Henry wrote: i'm using mailman 2.1.8. A user who acts as a moderator forgot his password. As administrator, i can reset a new password for the moderator, but is it possible to have a password reminder for the moderator? No. List admin and moderator passwords are kept in an encrypted form and the plain text password is not retrievable. ok, but the idea was to receive an url to reset it, not to retrieve it. The problem is that moderators are persons who forgot regularly the password, and instead of asking the administrator, they do nothing and pending messages become numerous... or, since all the moderators share the same password (since i can only set one password for moderator), they tend to write it somewhere (image 3-4 persons sharing the moderator role) and it may happen that anybody can get it...? ok, writing this and i understand that the problem isn't easy... but the need is here, because some lists need to be moderated by several people. thanks for the reply i know that mailman just needs a password to moderate the message, and don't need an email. But the email is stored in mailman, so i'm wondering if there is a form somewhere to permit the moderator to reset his password without admin action. No there is not. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
On 01/11/12 05:36 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Gerard Henry wrote: i'm using mailman 2.1.8. A user who acts as a moderator forgot his password. As administrator, i can reset a new password for the moderator, but is it possible to have a password reminder for the moderator? No. List admin and moderator passwords are kept in an encrypted form and the plain text password is not retrievable. i'm sorry if this is a newbie question, but why the moderator is not taken as a member of a list? in my opinion, this is often the case, isn't ? and if the moderator is also a member of the list, he has to remember two different password, not very friendly gerard -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
I guess the payoff is that the software works well, is free, and maintained for free. Plus, we have Mr Sapiro who nicely answers our questions for free. Thanks Mark!! Sorry, the response just bugged me. On 1/11/2012 2:18 PM, Gerard Henry wrote: On 01/11/12 05:36 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Gerard Henry wrote: i'm using mailman 2.1.8. A user who acts as a moderator forgot his password. As administrator, i can reset a new password for the moderator, but is it possible to have a password reminder for the moderator? No. List admin and moderator passwords are kept in an encrypted form and the plain text password is not retrievable. i'm sorry if this is a newbie question, but why the moderator is not taken as a member of a list? in my opinion, this is often the case, isn't ? and if the moderator is also a member of the list, he has to remember two different password, not very friendly gerard -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/frank.bell%40washburn.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
Gerard Henry writes: i'm sorry if this is a newbie question, but why the moderator is not taken as a member of a list? -1 Some moderators moderate many lists (in some cases, hundreds, but dozens are not uncommon), and are members of few. For those people who operate that way, auto-membership would be a significant annoyance, and in mass-moderation contexts, it would all come at once. OTOH, people can only read so many lists, and they will join as they become interested, thus amortizing the scutwork. in my opinion, this is often the case, isn't ? and if the moderator is also a member of the list, he has to remember two different password, not very friendly With multiple moderators, that would mean that they can all access each other's subscriptions. Also the moderator can change her personal password. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
Frank Bell writes: I guess the payoff is that the software works well, is free, and maintained for free. Plus, we have Mr Sapiro who nicely answers our questions for free. Thanks Mark!! I'll certainly second this! Sorry, the response just bugged me. I understand your irritation[1], but please remember that even if a person's English seems impeccable, the .fr (etc) indicates that it is probably his second (or third) language. Courteous forms differ in different languages, and they're quite hard to learn (try Japanese if you're into pain!) After all, he did try to soften it with a reference to newbie question. Footnotes: [1] Sorry, Gerard, I can't explain. :-( Maybe better phrasing would be It seems to me this case is very common. Would it be helpful to have an option? I also just realized that it's technically not possible to auto-subscribe moderators in Mailman 2, because moderators are identified not by their email address, but by possession of the moderator password. So Mailman doesn't know who to subscribe! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Login as Mailman admin via URL parameters?
Sascha Rissel wrote: just one thing that came to my mind: Since I administrate several mailing lists, it is always a bit complicated to retrieve the appropriate password from a password tool and then being able to log into the site. I know some Internet epplications, where administrators can log in using request parameters, such as http://myurl?user=userpassword=password Is this possible with mailman? http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/list-name?adminpw=password or http://www.example.com/mailman/admindb/list-name?adminpw=password -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
Gerard Henry wrote: and if the moderator is also a member of the list, he has to remember two different password, not very friendly This will change in Mailman 3. See my immediately previous reply. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
On 01/12/12 06:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Frank Bell writes: I guess the payoff is that the software works well, is free, and maintained for free. Plus, we have Mr Sapiro who nicely answers our questions for free. Thanks Mark!! I'll certainly second this! Sorry, the response just bugged me. I understand your irritation[1], but please remember that even if a person's English seems impeccable, the .fr (etc) indicates that it is probably his second (or third) language. Courteous forms differ in different languages, and they're quite hard to learn (try Japanese if you're into pain!) After all, he did try to soften it with a reference to newbie question. Footnotes: [1] Sorry, Gerard, I can't explain. :-( Maybe better phrasing would be It seems to me this case is very common. Would it be helpful to have an option? I also just realized that it's technically not possible to auto-subscribe moderators in Mailman 2, because moderators are identified not by their email address, but by possession of the moderator password. So Mailman doesn't know who to subscribe! thanks for all replies, and sorry if i hurt with my bad english. You're perfectly right... I'm using mailman since many years, and as you can see at the archives, i rarely post because i have no problem. gerard -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
Gerard Henry wrote: ok, but the idea was to receive an url to reset it, not to retrieve it. As I indicated, there is currently no admin/moderator reset request mechanism. This would not work well with multiple admins or moderators. This will all change in Mailman 3. There an individual will have only one registration in a particular Mailman installation with a password reset mechanism. That one person can have multiple email addresses and multiple roles. E.g., member of list 1 with delivery to address 1, digest member of list 2 with delivery to address 2, moderator and member of list 3, and so forth. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Problem with Blackberry
Hello - I have a subscriber who is on multiple lists that I run. He gets email on his Blackberry, and one list is completely fine ... the other list he can't see the body of the email, only the header. The only difference with the 2nd list is that it has a header configured in the admin interface. I removed the header, and he saw the message without the header just fine, but leaving it off permanently is not an option. The header started with , so I changed that to and there was no change ... His Blackberry still would not display the body of the email, which for everyone else, regular mail clients, iPhones, and other smart phones see the message just fine. Both lists are identical in the admin interface, except for the header. I've checked every single setting side-by-side. Any ideas on what to try next? I am thinking that the blackberry mail software is seeing the header as a 'signature' and not displaying anything below it, but I might be way off-base. I don't have a blackberry, and never have had one, so I am a little blind on that end. Anyway .. TIA for any help. Jeff -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Deleting all lists and any trace of mailman from our systems
Hello, Apologies for blundering in and emailing the wrong lists - I need to get rid of all of the mailman delivery systems that my organisation has previously set up - I have most of the admin passwords as far as I'm aware, but I'm unfamiliar with this system - I have tried to look up the answer in previous threads on this forum but I don't understand what the commands mean and how to operate the system. Please can I get some guidance before I flip out like a ninja and alarm my colleagues. Cheers Sam Bennett Vice President (Rights Activities) University Campus Suffolk Union office: +44 (0)1473 338155 e-mail: su.vicepresid...@ucs.ac.uk web: www.UCSunion.com Twitter: @UCSunion_VP University Campus Suffolk Students' Union is a company registered in England and Wales with registered number 6967378 and registered office at Waterfront Building, Neptune Quay, Ipswich, IP4 1QJ. UCS Students' Union is an exempt charity. University Campus Suffolk is the trading name of University Campus Suffolk Ltd. Registered in England and Wales, company number: 05078498. Registered Address: Waterfront Building, Neptune Quay, Ipswich, IP4 1QJ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Blackberry
Jeff Basham wrote: I have a subscriber who is on multiple lists that I run. He gets email on his Blackberry, and one list is completely fine ... the other list he can't see the body of the email, only the header. The only difference with the 2nd list is that it has a header configured in the admin interface. I removed the header, and he saw the message without the header just fine, but leaving it off permanently is not an option. [...] Any ideas on what to try next? I am thinking that the blackberry mail software is seeing the header as a 'signature' and not displaying anything below it, but I might be way off-base. I don't have a blackberry, and never have had one, so I am a little blind on that end. The header is added as a separate MIME part because the original message is already multipart or doesn't consist of a single text/plain message body. The Blackberry sees the initial header text/plain part as the message body and everything else as either attachments or things to be ignored. This has nothing to do with the content of msg_header, just the fact that there is one. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9 for more information. In your user's case, this is basically a problem with the Blackberry mail client. It is not unique to Blackberry, many smart phone mail clients fail miserably at displaying messages with any sort of complex MIME structure. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting all lists and any trace of mailman from our systems
On 1/11/2012 8:07 AM, Sam Bennett wrote: Hello, Apologies for blundering in and emailing the wrong lists - I need to get rid of all of the mailman delivery systems that my organisation has previously set up - I have most of the admin passwords as far as I'm aware, but I'm unfamiliar with this system - I have tried to look up the answer in previous threads on this forum but I don't understand what the commands mean and how to operate the system. Please can I get some guidance before I flip out like a ninja and alarm my colleagues. Do you have command line access to the server that hosts your Mailman installation? I.e. can you log in to a shell? If you do, you need to find Mailman's bin/ directory and run bin/rmlist to remove lists. run bin/rmlist -h for more details. If you do not have sufficient access to find and run this command on the server, you need to contact the people who do. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
On 01/12/12 07:35 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Gerard Henry wrote: ok, but the idea was to receive an url to reset it, not to retrieve it. As I indicated, there is currently no admin/moderator reset request mechanism. This would not work well with multiple admins or moderators. This will all change in Mailman 3. There an individual will have only one registration in a particular Mailman installation with a password reset mechanism. That one person can have multiple email addresses and multiple roles. E.g., member of list 1 with delivery to address 1, digest member of list 2 with delivery to address 2, moderator and member of list 3, and so forth. good new! very thanks for your job gerard -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting all lists and any trace of mailman from our systems
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 19:07, Sam Bennett su.vicepresid...@ucs.ac.ukwrote: Hello, Apologies for blundering in and emailing the wrong lists - I need to get rid of all of the mailman delivery systems that my organisation has previously set up - I have most of the admin passwords as far as I'm aware, but I'm unfamiliar with this system - I have tried to look up the answer in previous threads on this forum but I don't understand what the commands mean and how to operate the system. Please can I get some guidance before I flip out like a ninja and alarm my colleagues. I think it's very dangerous that you have the power you say/imply you wield over your systems. I feel like assisting you, but I'd like to first understand where you are coming from. Why is it that you want to get rid of Mailman? What has happened? Why don't you ask the person who set it up to shut it down? Getting rid of Mailman should be as simple as commenting out a few lines in the configuration file(s) of the SMTP engine running on your server, then restarting the SMTP engine. If you don't know how to do that, you really need to provide more information, and better answers to my foregoing questions. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
