Re: [Mailman-Users] ACK Column...

[Dan Phillips]

On Jun 25, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Jeff Shepherd wrote:
> What does that field mean and what's the difference between checked
> and unchecked users?

It reflects the "Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to  
the list?" line from the user prefs page. If checked, the sender gets:

"Your message entitled

 

was successfully received by the  mailing list."



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Connection Refused

[Dan Phillips]

On May 30, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Jason Pruim wrote:
>  I think the fix I have to do is to add the
> SMTPPORT and SMTPHOST details in the mm_cfg.py file.
>
> My question is... Exactly how do I edit that file? I tried to edit it
> with pico but that didn't work, all the stuff was scrambled.  Is
> there some trick that I don't know?
>
> Mailman Version 2.1.5
> Operating System: Macintosh OS X Server 10.4.9

There's no trick to it; pico should work just  fine to add those  
parameters to mm_cfg.py. In what way is it scrambled? I assume you're  
using the default OS X Server installation of Mailman? the only  
problems I've had with it is that some configuration settings and the  
mailman crontab sometimes get rewritten in OS updates, but I've never  
seen anything in mm_cfg.py changed.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Old lists are working. New lists discard allmessages. How to debug?

[Dan Phillips]

On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:57 PM, Brian Parish wrote

>> Brian Parish wrote:
>>
>>> I have a number of lists running happily, but a couple of new  
>>> ones don't
>>> want to play.  For testing purposes I subscribe myself to them and a
>>> couple of other addresses.  All message sent to them from subscribed
>>> addresses get automatically discarded.  I can see the discards in  
>>> the
>>> vette log, but that doesn't provide a reason why.  Do I need to  
>>> turn on
>>> verbose output or something to get a diagnostic that's meaningful?
>>>
> 1.  I am moderated, but member_moderation_action is hold
>
> 2.  If I switch off my moderation bit, the behavior is unaffected
>
> 3.  I am subscribed to the list under two addresses and sending from
> either I get discarded
>
> 4. discard_these_nonmembers is blank and generic_nonmember_action
>  is hold
>
> 5. forward_auto_discards is set to Yes, so I see the discards, but  
> with no explanation as to why
>
> Given point 4, I don't understand how mailman can do anything but  
> hold the message for approval, whether I am correctly subscribed or  
> not.  I am more than happy to provide admin access to this list if  
> you feel like having a play.


Is it possible this is a content filtering issue? If the result of  
filtering is an empty message body, it is discarded in the way you  
describe.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Obscure addresses problem

[Dan Phillips]

On Sep 4, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
> The Mailman method of obscuring addresses has always worked as
> described, in all installations I have ever encountered or heard of.

Remember, what he's trying to do is to get pipermail NOT to obscure  
the addresses. This is completely unrelated to how the resulting  
files are used or what further processing is done on them.

Here's the setting:

> obscure_addresses (privacy): Show member addresses so they're not  
> directly recognizable as email addresses?
> Setting this option causes member email addresses to be transformed  
> when they are presented on list web pages (both in text and as  
> links), so they're not trivially recognizable as email addresses.  
> The intention is to prevent the addresses from being snarfed up by  
> automated web scanners for use by spammers.


Just out of curiosity, I tried the same thing. I confirmed that the  
list.mbox did indeed contain the complete, whole, unadulterated  
addresses, set privacy options-->obscure_addresses to NO, then ran  
bin/arch --wipe on a small test list. The newly created year- 
month.txt files did still include the standard "xxx at xxx" obscured  
email addresses.

Maybe we're just trying the wrong setting; is the obscured address a  
pipermail constant? Is there some other setting that controls this?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] One Down, one more to go.

[Dan Phillips]

On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> none of the emails being sent to the mailing list are going anywhere.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?

Have you been through the steps in http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw- 
mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp ?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x

[Dan Phillips]

On Apr 29, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
> Either you use the Apple custom management GUI with the
> Apple-modified versions of the old code, or you use the new code
> (with the new features and the security fixes) with the standard
> Mailman web or CLI management interface.

Just to clarify any possible ambiguity in Brad's post:  Apple's  
version can be managed just fine with the standard Mailman web GUI  
and CLI, both of which are vastly superior to Apple's GUI. All one  
needs to do with Apple's interface is check "enable mailing lists" in  
Server Admin app. Unfortunately, as Brad points out, Apple is still  
on Mailman 2.1.5.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers

[Dan Phillips]

On Apr 28, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Louis M. wrote:
> I apologize if this has been asked before, but I have googled day  
> in and day
> out so, if you could point me in the right direction:
>
> All digests include the email information for each email such as:
>
>   Message: 1
>   Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:57:37 -0400
>   From: Apache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Subject: Status- Client, Demo
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> We are using our lists in an automated method, therefore it will  
> always be
> generated from an automated source so this information is  
> irrelevant and
> over the course of a digest with 200+ emails it adds up to be alot of
> unnecessary overhead.
>
> Where can I go to remove it. Even if it is a global change. I was  
> poking
> around in the Handlers Directory, but am not sure if there is a  
> better place
> to do this.


 From Mailman/Defaults.py:

> # Headers which should be kept in both RFC 1153 (plain) and MIME  
> digests.  RFC
> # 1153 also specifies these headers in this exact order, so order  
> matters.
> MIME_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS = [
> 'Date', 'From', 'To', 'Cc', 'Subject', 'Message-ID', 'Keywords',
> # I believe we should also keep these headers though.
> 'In-Reply-To', 'References', 'Content-Type', 'MIME-Version',
> 'Content-Transfer-Encoding', 'Precedence', 'Reply-To',
> # Mailman 2.0 adds these headers
> 'Message',
> ]
>
> PLAIN_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS = [
> 'Message', 'Date', 'From',
> 'Subject', 'To', 'Cc',
> 'Message-ID', 'Keywords',
> 'Content-Type',
> ]

Copy this information into mm_cfg.py and make the changes there to  
eliminate unwanted fields.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Spam complaints

[Dan Phillips]

On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Jonathan Dill wrote:
> People sign up
> for the list, confirm their subscription, and then turn around and
> complain about getting e-mail from us, and then when I take them  
> off the
> list, they complain that they should not have been removed, I just  
> don't
> get it.  There is already a clear "Unsubscribe" link in our e-mail
> messages and we don't make people confirm unsubscription.  It would be
> nice if AOL would give people a "Unsubscribe" button so hopefully  
> people
> would use that instead of just being lazy and clicking the "Spam"
> button, the headers by Mailman already include the necessary  
> information
> to do that.

FWIW, I've been told by AOL subscribers that the discard and spam  
buttons are close together and look alike. Every time I've gotten a  
spam complaint forwarded from the AOL feedback loop, when asked the  
poster has told me that they must have hit the spam button accidentally.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] No address associated with nodename (once again)

[Dan Phillips]

On Nov 7, 2005, at 7:13 PM, Terry Robbins wrote:

> Has anyone identified this problem yet. There are a lot of reports in
> the archives, but I could not find any useful pointers on where to
> look for a solution.
>
> Mailman seems to be functioning perfectly. But in the delivery
> failures log the same error keeps repeating.
>
> Mailman receives mail but when attempting to send it it fails. It has
> worked for months, but this has occurred after updating Mac OSX
> server to 10.4.2.
>
> MTA is, of course, Postfix.
>
> Is this a DNS error? Some kind of host name misconfiguration?
> mm_config.py seems to have the right hostname. Postfix is set to
> relay for local host, the privite IP of the subnet, as well as the
> public address of the machine. It is inside a Nat Firewall so the
> machine has an IP in the 192.168.x.x range. I have no other problems
> with SMTP either in or out.


I suspected this the first time you posted, but IIRC, you didn't  
specify OS.

This is an OS X Server host name issue. See http:// 
discussions.apple.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.68b4c806/2

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Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix and Installetion problem

[Dan Phillips]

On Oct 25, 2005, at 4:52 PM, Popak Roshan wrote:
> I would like to run mailman at my Mac os 10.4 server, I have 2  
> questions:
>  I read the documetation and it said to enable postfix use "postfix
> enabler", Doesn't running mail services would be enough, since tiger
> runs postfix.


In Server Admin you just need to enable mailing lists: select mail  
service/settings/mailing lists and check the box to enable them. Once  
you've done that, it's better to ignore Apple's pathetic GUI and just  
use Mailman's own web interface.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Illegal list name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Dan Phillips]

On Oct 4, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Dan Phillips wrote:
>
>> On Oct 3, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>>
>>> $ ls -al /usr/local/mailman/data
>>> -rw-rw   1 mailman mailman   357 Oct  3 16:22 aliases
>>> -rw-r-   1 mailman mailman 49152 Oct  3 16:22 aliases.db
>>>
>> I can't answer your main question, but I can tell you that you  
>> will  get a permissions error when you try to create a list  
>> through the web  interface with the above setup. aliases.db must  
>> be group writable.
>>
>
> Where do you see that ?
>
> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node13.html
> ...
> If Dan is correct could someone update the documentation, then :
>
> % su
> % chown mailman:mailman data/aliases*
> % chmod g+w data/aliases.db

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp

AFAIK, this is a problem only with Postfix (?) and it's not caught or  
fixed by check_perms.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron jobs on Tiger Server

[Dan Phillips]

On Sep 12, 2005, at 7:07 AM, David Scribner wrote:

> Somehow since the beginning of the month none of my Mailman cron jobs
> are running correctly.

Did you apply the latest security update from Apple? On my system,  
doing so deleted mailman's crontab, as did the update from 10.4.1 to  
10.4.2. Supposedly, in Tiger cron jobs have mostly been replaced by  
launchd, but apparently nothing was done to replace Mailman's  
necessary cron functions. Luckily for me, I had a copy of the Mailman  
crontab, which I was able to reinstall, and everything worked  
normally again.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Headers _within_ digests

[Dan Phillips]

On Sep 1, 2005, at 9:23 AM, David Gordon wrote:
> I'd like to clean up the digests my lists send. I wonder how to do  
> remove
> the "Message-ID:" and  "Content-Type:" from the digest messages I  
> send?


 From Defaults.py:

==
# Headers which should be kept in both RFC 1153 (plain) and MIME  
digests.  RFC
# 1153 also specifies these headers in this exact order, so order  
matters.
MIME_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS = [
 'Date', 'From', 'To', 'Cc', 'Subject', 'Message-ID', 'Keywords',
 # I believe we should also keep these headers though.
 'In-Reply-To', 'References', 'Content-Type', 'MIME-Version',
 'Content-Transfer-Encoding', 'Precedence', 'Reply-To',
 # Mailman 2.0 adds these headers
 'Message',
 ]

PLAIN_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS = [
 'Message', 'Date', 'From',
 'Subject', 'To', 'Cc',
 'Message-ID', 'Keywords',
 'Content-Type',
 ]



Edit these as desired and place in mm_cfg.py.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest Sending Questions

[Dan Phillips]

On Jul 29, 2005, at 6:26 AM, Larry Stone wrote:

> On 7/29/05 5:45 AM, David Scribner at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> wrote:
>> I am using the Apple supplied Mailman as part of OSX 10.2.4 SERVER.
>> How can I tell is the cron jobs were/are enabled?  I'm not a UNIX
>> "geek" so I usually depend on the GUI parts of OSX Server.
>>
>
> Ah... If it were a self-installed mailman on non-Server OS X, we  
> can be a
> lot of help. But there seems to be little knowledge here of Apple's  
> somewhat
> proprietary installation of Mailman on OS X Server. Reports  
> indicate that
> there is a lot non-standard about how Apple installed it.


I first installed Mailman 2.0.13 from source on Jaguar server and  
have updated it to 2.1.6, but recently began using a default Apple  
install on Tiger Server. There's really very little done differently  
that I can see, other than the system unexpectedly changing my  
settings in mm_cfg.py on occasion. The big difference is splitting  
into var and /usr/share directories.

In any case, the Mailman crontab is standard.

David, run "sudo crontab -u mailman -l" in the Terminal app and look  
for this line:

# Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold  
delivery.
0 12 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /usr/share/mailman/cron/senddigests

Read man crontab for instructions on how to edit it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest Sending Questions/ OS X

[Dan Phillips]

On Jul 28, 2005, at 7:19 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
>
> Nope.  Except for digests that are sent when the size threshold
> is reached, all digests are sent at the same time -- when the
> "senddigests" cron job is run for that day.

Although wouldn't it be easy enough to do with a little massaging of  
the mailman crontab, creating a different job for each list?

> Usage: /usr/share/mailman/cron/senddigests [options]
>
> Options:
>
> -l listname
> --listname=listname
> Send the digest for the given list only, otherwise the  
> digests for all
> lists are sent out.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP gatewaying

[Dan Phillips]

On Jul 3, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
> The existing NNTP feature does not include any authentication
> that I know of.

from Defaults.py:

# Set these variables if you need to authenticate to your NNTP server  
for
# Usenet posting or reading.  If no authentication is necessary,  
specify None
# for both variables.
NNTP_USERNAME = None
NNTP_PASSWORD = None

Is this not what you are discussing?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only

[Dan Phillips]

On Apr 19, 2005, at 8:42 PM, JC Dill wrote:

I think you are missing the big picture.  There are many different 
ways that lists can be configured.  The "only" term applies to the 
*automatic* handling by mailman, not to the choices made by the list 
owners and admins.  Mailman automatically posts messages from "members 
only", and then the *default* option lets the list owner/admin decide 
what to do with the rest but this is something you can easily change 
as shown above.

He's using 2.0.13. Those options aren't available.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] convert text/html problem...

[Dan Phillips]

On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
The default setting (don't know if this applies to OSX) for the
conversion command is:
HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND = '/usr/bin/lynx -dump %(filename)s'
Whatever this command writes to stdout is what you get. This command
probably isn't working in your environment. If that's the case, you'll
have to find something that does.
My entry (OS X Server 10.2.8, MM 2.1.5 installed from source) is:
HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND = 'LYNX_TEMP_SPACE=/tmp /usr/local/bin/lynx 
-force_html -dump %(filename)s'

I changed it to that based on a thread on this list a couple years ago. 
I honestly don't remember know what the issue was at the time, but I 
may have had to install lynx from source. OS X 10.3 client doesn't have 
lynx installed, but I don't know about Server 10.3.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: OSX mailman problem

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On Mar 16, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 10:13 AM + 2005-03-16, Ian Eiloart wrote:
 Is there a way to query the Mailman version from the command line?
Good question.  I don't know.

bin/version :-)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I just installed Mailman

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On Feb 20, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Ian Truelsen wrote:
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:48:46 -0500
"Tad Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I just installed mailman and I am able to get the site up.
ie.mydomain/mailman/listinfo. I am continuing with the directions and
trying to go to mydomain/mailman/create. It says page not found. Are
there any suggestions.
I think it is mydomain/mailman/admin/create that you are looking for.
No, that would be the URL for the admin page of a list named "create." 
The OP has it right.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Some Posts not getting through - Troubleshoot ing tips?

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On Feb 11, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Bruce Best (CRO) wrote:
-Original Message-
On Feb 11, 2005, at 9:33 AM, Bruce Best (CRO) wrote:
I can't seem to find a "Full Personalization" option
anywhere in the
list
admin; where do I set this?
I don't remember if you've specified which version of Mailman you're
using, but in 2.1.x it's under "Non-Digest options."
2.1.5; under "Non-Digest options", it says nothing about "Full
Personalization", there are only three options;

mm_cfg.py must include the line "OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = 1"
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Re: [Mailman-Users] japanese_codecs problem

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On Dec 3, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote:
Speedy Gonzalis wrote:
Using Mailman v 2.1.4 I keep getting the following error.
Nov 30 19:19:07 2004 admin(29952): 
/var/mailman/pythonlib/japanese/c/euc_jp.py:3: RuntimeWarning: Python 
C API version mismatch for module _japanese_codecs: This Python has 
API version 1011, module _japanese_codecs has version 1012.
I've searched the archives but didn't find anything.  Can someone 
help?
We (Japanese) had a same problem report on our mailing list. It looked 
like the package was made in a incompatible environment (by Fedora 
Core). Maybe you can fix it by upgrading your python to 2.3, or 
install mailman from source.

I get a very similar message each month when password reminders go out 
ever since I upgraded python to 2.3 for compatibility with Mailman 
2.1.5 (this is on OS X Server 10.2.8). Mailman was installed from 
source. The reminders seem to go out to my Japanese subscribers OK, and 
all the web pages work in Japanese; should I worry about it?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Took Care of Exim Problems

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On Oct 26, 2004, at 5:06 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote:
I've configured exim according to a howto[0] but still appear to have
problems with mailman:
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
'/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/rifts-pbem/attachments'

Oct 26 17:04:09 2004 (19123) SHUNTING: 
1098828249.31954+d2be08daa9cbd49bccdf5675c3dc44fc0d10068f

That's from /usr/local/mailman/logs/error
Have you tried running bin/check_perms -f ?
FWIW, on my system, the corresponding directory perms are: drwxrwsr-x
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Option to suppress senders' email addresses?

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On Sep 26, 2004, at 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Before posting the above, I tested this on Mailman 2.1.4, and it
doesn't remove any Received: headers on anonymous lists. I don't know
for sure about 2.1.5 without looking at code changes, but there's no
mention of any change in the 2.1.5 NEWS file.

I checked it on 2.1.5 with the same results.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] sudden "group mismatch error"

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On Sep 2, 2004, at 2:49 PM, Ben Byrne wrote:
Thanks. Fortunately I'm running a version of OS X server that predates 
Apple's inclusion of mailman, and I believe I've found the source 
directory used for the installation (I did not perform the install).

I have a stupid but quick question: will running
#make clean,
#configure --with-mail-gid=daemon
#make install
erase my existing lists, or will they be left untouched? If the 
former, is there a convenient way to backup and re-create the lists 
post-install?

I'm also running mailman on OS X Server 10.2, installed from source. 
The difficulties  Brad describes are one of the main reasons I haven't 
updated to Panther Server.

Go to your source folder and look at the head of config.log. That will 
show what options were specified in the last install. Copy all of those 
except the different mail-gid in your configure command. This will not 
overwrite any existing lists. Just remember to run mailmanctl stop 
before doing it ;-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to remove List info from posts

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On Jul 22, 2004, at 9:38 PM, Yogesh Subhash Talekar wrote:
When my Mailman sends a post to all members it attaches few lines to 
the
message which lookup these:

List-Id: eurlist.listman.mydomain.com
List-Unsubscribe: 
,
	
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: ,
	
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is it possible to *not* to have these. Which parameter is mm_cfg,py 
needs
to be changed?

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.001.htp
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: inserting comments into list of banned members

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On Jul 20, 2004, at 10:42 AM, Richard wrote:
rejected_nonmembers
___
   ceo @ spamstersinternational.com
   ### ceo is a spammer - 2004.
   jdoe @ xxx.net
   ### jdoe is permanently banned from the list.
   sales @ bigco.com
   ### bigco is now owned by gigantico - 2004.
___
Is there a way to do this?  What would
the syntax be inside the nonmembers list?
It can't be done as you've shown in your example, because Mailman 
checks for an '@' and a '.' in each line when you click "submit 
changes." You could, however, do something like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doing so, of course doubles the number of checks each incoming post 
will undergo.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading Panther Server basic install 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

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On Jun 30, 2004, at 5:54 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 9:54 PM -0500 2004-06-29, Larry Stone wrote:
 Well, I have Mailman 2.1.4 running just fine on Panther (regular, not
 Server). I basically followed the instructions contained in
  
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-October/ 
022944.html>
 (which deals with getting Mailman running under Jaguar) modified for  
the
 fact that Panther includes Postfix rather than Sendmail and I  
already had
 Postfix running.
	If you can remember exactly what you did, we can update the FAQ to  
include your comments.

This is a completely different animal however, in that non-Server  
Panther does not come with Mailman already installed (at least mine  
didn't). This is just a plain fresh install rather than an update of an  
Apple modified installation.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for clear and precise documentation for installation and configuration

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On May 20, 2004, at 3:26 PM, Carter Bing wrote:
I have managed to find the well laid out websites for Mailman but 
apparently
all the documentation assumes that you already have the software 
installed
correctly and working. I am looking for clear documentation on how to
install the package, how to configure it to run with apache, and how to
configure it to deliver mail.

I have looked at the FAQ and documentation on the list.org site but I
haven't been able to find the correct instructions on how to set it 
up. I am
currently using Macjordomo which runs on a Mac and would like to move 
my
lists to mailman.

As a veteran of a Macjordomo to Mailman switch, I can testify to how 
much you will appreciate Mailman once you get it running. It's not 
really all that difficult to install and set up on OS X, even if you 
have no Unix/Linux experience. See the article at 
http://www.afp548.com/Articles/Jaguar/mailman21-new.html for very good 
basic step by step instructions.

Further instructions are included in the source tarball.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Email commands

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On Apr 30, 2004, at 12:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Louis Proyect wrote on Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:59:45 -0400:

Supposedly a message of "who 'password'"  sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will provide such a list but it does not 
seem
to recognize the command

So, what does it say in the reply?

I wasn't the OP of this thread, but I've had the same frustration in 
the past. It prints out this message describing usage of the command:

The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
original message.
- Results:
Usage:
who password [address=]
See everyone who is on this mailing list.  The roster is 
limited to
list members only, and you must supply your membership 
password to
retrieve it.  If you're posting from an address other than your
membership address, specify your membership address with
`address=' (no brackets around the email address, and 
no
quotes!)

- Unprocessed:
who mypassword
- Done.


In my case the problem was that I put the command word in the subject 
line. I don't think I've seen it spelled out clearly anywhere that the 
subject line cannot be a command word unless the password is also given 
in the subject line. Subsequent commands can be in the body of the 
message, and each command also requires the password. Perhaps this 
should be in the FAQ? I can't find it there...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] using sendmail

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On Apr 21, 2004, at 12:28 PM, Paul Tomblin wrote:
Quoting Hervé MARTIN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I've read http://www.afp548.com/Articles/mail/python-mailman.html and
find it very clear but i'm using default Mac OS X MTA (ie Sendmail)
So what is the equivalent for Sendmail of :
sendmail hasn't been the default Mac OS X MTA for a couple of releases
now.  I think Apple switched to Postfix around 10.1 or 10.2.


The switch to Postfix was with 10.3.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] annoucement list question

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On Apr 18, 2004, at 1:24 PM, texas critter wrote:
Dan Phillips wrote:
I've always assumed that would work, but I tried it on my test list 
and
discovered that unchecking ANY mod box and saving changes unchecks ALL
mod boxes when they have been set with the "set everyone's" switch.
Anyone else have that experience?
Not here,
What version of Mailman are you using?  O/S?  cPanel?
(I'm on v2.1.3 thru cPanel)

2.1.4, OS X 10.2.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] annoucement list question

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On Apr 18, 2004, at 12:53 PM, texas critter wrote:
Tony Rice wrote:

How can I configure a list of approved posters and discard everything
else?  For an added challenge, I've got to do this through cpanel.
Go to your list's admin interface in your browser and log in.

First set everyone to Moderated by going to the Membership list and 
scroll
down to Additional Member Tasks and set "Set everyone's moderation bit,
including those members not currently visible" to On > Save Changes.

Then if there's any members you do want to allow to post, find them in 
the
membership list and uncheck their box in the "mod" column > Save 
Changes.

I've always assumed that would work, but I tried it on my test list and 
discovered that unchecking ANY mod box and saving changes unchecks ALL 
mod boxes when they have been set with the "set everyone's" switch. 
Anyone else have that experience?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Switching to MacOSX

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On Feb 13, 2004, at 9:54 PM, Paul Kleeberg wrote:
Will be easier or more difficult to configure MM and htDig on the Mac 
than RH.  I run only a handful of lists that have 50 to 500 users.

I can't speak to RH, but I found Mailman and htDig to be fairly easy to 
install from source and configure under OS X Server. I haven't used 
Apple's default install of MM 2.1.2 since I'm still using 10.2.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] group mismatch error

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On Feb 4, 2004, at 1:43 PM, Sean Butler wrote:

Here is the error I continue to get, no matter what I try:
...or re-run configure,  providing the command line option 
`--with-mail-gid=mailman'. )


Here is what I have done since I first started getting this:

1.  make deinstall; make --with-mail-gid=mailman; make instll



Not knowing what OS you're using, I don't know if this is an issue or 
not, but the expected fix is to run ./configure 
--with-mail-gid=mailman, not make. That worked for me.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] message

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On Feb 3, 2004, at 4:06 PM, jsingh wrote:
I wanted to take the url address out of the email footer when email is
sent out . I commented out the line in Defaults.py
#%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s but still the 
url is
going out, what am I doing wrong ?

Two problems with that:

1) Don't make changes in Defaults.py; make them in mm_cfg.py to 
override what's in Defaults.
2) Email footers are more easily set in the web interface under general 
options --> digest options and non-digest options.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] creating private lists by default

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On Jan 29, 2004, at 12:59 PM, Andy Malato wrote:
What is the way to tell mailman to create a private list by default?
Currently, when a list is created, it gets created as a public or
"advertised" list, this is not desirable.  Is it possible to change 
this
behavior, and if so, what needs to be set?

In mm_cfg.py, add:

DEFAULT_LIST_ADVERTISED = No

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Too Many Headers

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On Jan 23, 2004, at 2:44 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 11:52 AM -0800 2004/01/23, Wesley T. Perdue wrote:

 I'm using eudora 6.0.1.1 on Win 2000, and it does not suppress the
 List-* headers by default.
I have gone ahead and configured Eudora to hide these headers under 
normal circumstances


I haven't used Eudora regularly since v.4.0. I downloaded v.6.0 this 
morning to see if it behaved the way I remembered, and it did. I also 
looked for an option to hide those headers and wasn't able to find one. 
A search of Eudora's own help files was particularly useless. 
Regardless of the question of the default status, I'm sure many of us 
would like to be able to tell our users how to hide them. Can you 
enlighten us, please? :-) This is something else that maybe should go 
into the FAQ, since it's been a fairly common complaint from my users 
and as a non-Eudora user I can't help them.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Too Many Headers

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On Jan 23, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 8:56 AM -0600 2004/01/23, Dan Phillips wrote:

 The problem is she's probably using Eudora, which improperly displays
 the RFC 2369 headers. See the explanation at
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.001.htp
	What version of Eudora has this problem?  I'm using Eudora 6, and 
while I have it configured to hide all "List-*" headers by default, 
when I click on the button to show all headers, the "List-*" headers 
are properly displayed, correctly highlighted, and will "Do The Right 
Thing" when you click on the highlighted portion.

I just downloaded and used Eudora 6.0.2 for OS X and it still exhibits 
the incorrect behavior. This may be a Mac only problem, but I have no 
way of checking other versions (I don't do Windows).

Dan


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Too Many Headers

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On Jan 23, 2004, at 8:38 AM, Charlie Hazlett wrote:
I have a small mailing list, about 45 subscribers and one, only one, 
has
asked why the headers on her mail from the list has so many lines.  
She send
me the following example:

The problem is she's probably using Eudora, which improperly displays 
the RFC 2369 headers. See the explanation at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.001.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bug creating list from web interface

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On Dec 15, 2003, at 1:31 PM, donovan wrote:
can anyone give me some insight on this?
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias 
/private/var/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Redhat9 mailman + postfix permissions problem

[Dan Phillips]

On Nov 7, 2003, at 9:35 PM, Skahan, Vince wrote:
Works great other than the list creation aborts out due to a 
permission problem
in running '/usr/sbin/postalias /var/mailman/data/aliases' after the 
aliases file has
the pertinent entries added.

see: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Permission Denied / Content Filtering

[Dan Phillips]

On Nov 5, 2003, at 10:00 AM, Timothy Brooks wrote:
I've had a very hard time with my lists ever since my provider 
upgraded to 2.1.2.  The most recent problem is that messages sent via 
Hotmail (and some other Web-based mail programs) come through like 
this:

/root/HJBt9Y: Permission denied

see http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg14584.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bugs in Mailman 2.1.3, one critical for private mailists

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On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, at 11:18 AM, Pablo Chamorro C. wrote:
I found that Mailman 2.1.3 has a serious bug, accessing to the private
mailman archives and the membership options page, when a user changes  
his
password. The web authentication simply fails.

The other bug is this: the email command 'set delivery' (on/off)  
doesn't
work.

Please, read the complete bugs report at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ 
msg06638.html

Some idea?. Thanks in advance,

I am unable to to reproduce those problems. Is this a new update to  
2.1.3 from a 2.0.x version? If so, then the problem is most likely the  
users in question need to clear all old mailman cookies from their  
browsers before the 2.1.x web interface will work. Is this is not the  
case, then I have no idea :-)

DP

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Re: [Mailman-Users] POST variables not processed in the Mailman web forms

[Dan Phillips]

On Oct 26, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Cheng-Jih Chen wrote:
Hi, I've just upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1.3 and the web interfaces for 
Mailman don't appear to work.  The impression I get is that POST 
variables aren't being processed.  For example, when trying to 
subscribe to a list, I get the message:

You must clear all 2.0.x cookies from your browser before it will 
accept 2.1.x cookies.

DP

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Re: [Mailman-Users] customizing the look of Mailman

[Dan Phillips]

On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 09:24 AM, Jon Carnes wrote:
I've been looking and can't find a way to remove the footer that is 
added
to messages like so..

___
Test mailing list
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I suggest that you look again. It's in the web-admin for each list.
More specifically, It's in http://dom.ain/mailman/admin/listname/digest 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] character encoding error

[Dan Phillips]

On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 03:44  AM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote:
Please apply this patch to /pythonlib/email AFTER installing
Japanese patched mailman.
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/email.patch.20031001
ie,
% cd /pythonlib
% patch -p0 < /path/to/email.patch.20031001
Good Luck,
Dan Phillips wrote:
When I updated to 2.1.3 I immediately had problems with Japanese 
language password reminders causing errors, but I applied the patch 
provided by Tokio Kikuchi and those went away. Since then, however, 
every time I receive a post that includes an eight bit character the 
following error message is generated:
Could you please direct me to the correct patches for "Japanese patched 
Mailman?" My reading knowledge of Japanese is limited, but am I correct 
in guessing from your site that you are referring to 
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.3+patch.20030930 ? And is that 
applied before or after configure and make install?

Sorry for both my ignorance and illiteracy :-)

DP

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[Mailman-Users] character encoding error

[Dan Phillips]

When I updated to 2.1.3 I immediately had problems with Japanese 
language password reminders causing errors, but I applied the patch 
provided by Tokio Kikuchi and those went away. Since then, however, 
every time I receive a post that includes an unusual (for English) 
character -- ç, 1/2 (as one character), anything with an umlaut, etc -- 
the following error message is generated:

Oct 09 08:04:51 2003 (449) Uncaught runner exception: 'NoneType' 
object has no attribute 'lower'
Oct 09 08:04:51 2003 (449) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 110, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 160, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in 
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in 
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 90, in 
process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 131, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 373, in 
send_i18n_digests
rfc1153msg.set_payload(plainmsg.getvalue(), lcset)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 224, in 
set_payload
self.set_charset(charset)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 262, in 
set_charset
cte(self)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Encoders.py", line 88, in 
encode_7or8bit
charset = msg.get_charset().output_charset.lower()
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'

Oct 09 08:04:51 2003 (449) SHUNTING: 
1065704690.3426059+c2b29a13c674529127a4c79472d3c58829f5937c
Unfortunately, every message received after the offending one is also 
shunted, and cron/senddigests also produces the same error message. A 
quick look at the digest.mbox shows one character that appears in pico 
as a black diamond with a question mark in it. If I replace that with 
an approximation without a diacritical and save the mbox, then I can 
run /cron/senddigests and unshunt successfully.

Any ideas?

DP

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Re: [Mailman-Users] cron error

[Dan Phillips]

On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 01:30  PM, Dan Phillips wrote:
MM 2.1.3, Postfix, OS X

I just received this error message:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in 
send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 131, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 373, in 
send_i18n_digests
rfc1153msg.set_payload(plainmsg.getvalue(), lcset)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 224, in 
set_payload
self.set_charset(charset)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 262, in 
set_charset
cte(self)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Encoders.py", line 88, in 
encode_7or8bit
charset = msg.get_charset().output_charset.lower()
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
any ideas?

To answer my own question:

A quick review of the digest.mbox file of one of my lists showed a 
French subscriber having signed his name François. I changed the ç to c 
and the digest went out just fine. His header showed content: 
text/plain, charset us ascii. Is there any way to avoid that problem in 
the future?

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[Mailman-Users] cron error

[Dan Phillips]

MM 2.1.3, Postfix, OS X

I just received this error message:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in 
send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 131, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 373, in 
send_i18n_digests
rfc1153msg.set_payload(plainmsg.getvalue(), lcset)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 224, in 
set_payload
self.set_charset(charset)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 262, in 
set_charset
cte(self)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Encoders.py", line 88, in 
encode_7or8bit
charset = msg.get_charset().output_charset.lower()
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
any ideas?

DP

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[Mailman-Users] unicode error

[Dan Phillips]

MM 2.1.3, Postfix 2.0.9, OS X

Password reminders sent out this morning generated the following error 
for all subscribers who have chosen Japanese as their language of 
choice:

Oct 01 05:04:42 2003 (16972) Uncaught runner exception: decoding 
Unicode is not supported
Oct 01 05:04:42 2003 (16972) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 110, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 160, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 74, in 
_dispose
self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 146, in 
process
deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 332, in 
verpdeliver
bulkdeliver(mlist, msgcopy, msgdata, envsender, failures, conn)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 345, in 
bulkdeliver
msgtext = msg.as_string()
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 113, in 
as_string
g.flatten(self, unixfrom=unixfrom)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 103, in 
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 131, in 
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 157, in 
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 198, in 
_handle_text
payload = cset.body_encode(payload)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Charset.py", line 386, in 
body_encode
s = self.convert(s)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Charset.py", line 269, in 
convert
return unicode(s, self.input_codec).encode(self.output_codec)
TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported

Oct 01 05:04:42 2003 (16972) SHUNTING: 
1065002402.120966+15739cc63fad35075a9d11d4cab4c282919d2340

AFAIK, this has not happened before; at least there was no problem on 
September 1. The only thing changed since then has been updating to 
2.1.3. Unicode support is certainly included in OS X.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list aliases - /etc/mail/aliases

[Dan Phillips]

On Sunday, September 14, 2003, at 06:52  PM, Noah wrote:
I am attempting to alias  'dream' to post to the 'dreamweavers' mail 
list.

this is what I places in the /etc/mail/aliases file:

dream:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post 
dreamweavers"

but posted mail to this list _from a list member_ gets held for 
moderator
approval.  mail to dreamweavers posts fine.

look at http://dom.ain/mailman/admin//privacy/recipient

And read the help files for "(Details for 
require_explicit_destination)" and  (Details for acceptable_aliases)

I'm guessing that you are using the default setting of the former as 
"yes" ?

Dan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] question regarding confirmation

[Dan Phillips]

On Saturday, August 30, 2003, at 12:48  PM, Paul H Byerly wrote:
Aviram Carmi wrote:
the confirmation message when a user received when they join, says to

"simply reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact."

however, replying to the message, by default ads "Re:" to the subject
which caused the confirmation to be rejected by mailman. see below.
Replying again, after removeing the "Re:" worked, and I got the
"welcome" message.
Shouldn't mailman be smarter and recognize the "Re:"?

I'll bet that most users will just hit "reply" which (at least on my
email client Eudora 5.2.1 under MacOS 9.2.2) adds an "Re:" to the
subject line.
 I'm running the same version of Eudora under Windows, and do not 
have this problem.  Either something else is happening when your reply 
is sent, or something is configured wrong on the Mailman end.

I just tried the same test using Eudora under OS X and it worked fine 
despite the "re:" I also tried it leaving the white space and the 
"reply" character at the beginning of the confirm line and it also 
worked fine. I don't have a classic OS  Eudora to try it with.

Dan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Prevent re-subscription?

[Dan Phillips]

On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Angel Gabriel wrote:
Is it possible to stop someone fro re-subscrib
http://domain.tld/mailman/admin/listname/privacy

Admin page, privacy options, "List of addresses which are banned from 
membership in this  mailing list"

Dan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] inviting users to join a list

[Dan Phillips]

In 2.1.x Under membership management/mass subscription, the first  
option is "subscribe these users now or invite them?" check "invite"  
and it will do as you wish.

On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 10:28  AM, Rob Reid wrote:

Does anyone know a good way to invite a large group (almost 1000, of  
which I
expect 90% will want to sign up) to a listserv without automatically  
signing
them up?  I thought the "confirm" option under "what steps are  
required for
subscription" would work, but this is ignored when mass subscribing  
members.



Thanks for any suggestions.



Rob Reid

Research Analyst

Prevent Child Abuse America

200 S. Michigan Ave., 17th Floor

Chicago, IL 60604

(312) 663-3520 x178



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[Mailman-Users] re: Digest delivery problem

[Dan Phillips]

Sorry, I should have mentioned:

Mailman 2.1.2, Postfix postfix-2.0.9-20030424, OS X Server, python 2.2

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[Mailman-Users] digest delivery problem

[Dan Phillips]

I've Googled this and found several refences to the error message but 
none of them seem to be caused by this situation. One of my lists has 
had trouble sending the digest the last few days. It sends it to all 
but 31 subscribers, then leaves this in the error log:

Jun 09 12:00:02 2003 (460) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 72, in 
_dispose
self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 146, in 
process
deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 332, in 
verpdeliver
bulkdeliver(mlist, msgcopy, msgdata, envsender, failures, conn)
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 345, in 
bulkdeliver
msgtext = msg.as_string()
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 109, in 
as_string
g.flatten(self, unixfrom=unixfrom)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 102, in 
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 130, in 
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 156, in 
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 230, in 
_handle_multipart
g.flatten(part, unixfrom=False)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 102, in 
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 130, in 
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 156, in 
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 230, in 
_handle_multipart
g.flatten(part, unixfrom=False)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 102, in 
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 130, in 
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 156, in 
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 297, in 
_handle_message
g.flatten(msg.get_payload(0), unixfrom=False)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 102, in 
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 130, in 
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 156, in 
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 199, in 
_handle_text
raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload)
TypeError: string payload expected: 

Jun 09 12:00:02 2003 (460) SHUNTING: 
1055178001.113483+4cf795ff1bac2bb920026ee3d9b2d9eec506dea8
=

The other 330 members get their digest fine. I copied the digest.mbox 
to a test list and sent it with cron/senddigests and it worked fine.

The file in qfiles/shunt is:

=
bin/dumpdb 1055178001.113483+6ef95bc566ff9e38083c23c3a2cb515f842bfb73.db
{   'isdigest': 1,
'lang': 'en',
'listname': 'horn',
'original_sender': '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'personalize': 1,
'pipeline': [],
'received_time': 1055178001.113483,
'recips': [   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
   -=--snip--=- list of subscribers
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'],
'undelivered': [   ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]'],
   ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]'],
-=--snip--=- same list as before
   ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]']],
'verp': 1,
'version': 3,
'whichq': '/users/mailman/qfiles/out'}
=
incidentally, trying to run dumpdb on the .pck file produces another 
error message:
===

[music:~/qfiles/shunt] mailman% dumpdb -p 
1055178001.113483+6ef95bc566ff9e38083c23c3a2cb515f842bfb73.pck
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/mailman/bin/dumpdb", line 134, in ?
msg = main()
  File "/Users/mailman/bin/dumpdb", line 128, in main
pp.pprint(m)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/pprint.py", line 110, in pprint
self.__stream.write(self.pformat(object) + "\n")
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/pprint.py", line 114, in pformat
self.__format(object, sio, 0, 0, {}, 0)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/pprint.py", line 136, in __format
rep = self.__repr(object, context, level - 1)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/pprint.py", line 200, in __repr
self.__depth, level)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/pprint.py", line 287, in _safe_repr
rep = `object`
  File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 50, in __repr__
return self.__str__()
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 99, in __str__
return self.as_string(unixfrom=True)
  File "/users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Where are the archives?

[Dan Phillips]

On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 07:22  AM, McPherson, Dale L. wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

produces a Not Found error. Is there actually a usable archive for this
list?
From the Mail-Archive home page:

June 2, 2003

Mail-Archive is experiencing technical problems, all archives are 
temporarily offline and are being actively restored from backup. 
Because of the very large volume of data, this process takes a long 
time - multiple days so far, and possible a few more are required. 
Thank you for your patience.

Jeff Breidenbach
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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE;Cron/senddigests bug

[Dan Phillips]

Thanks. I've done that once before, and as you said, the problem was 
obvious. My difficulty this time is that every message in the box went 
out just fine as individual emails. There were a couple that were 
content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable, which on my old system 
caused multiple problems, and always look bad in the digest, with lines 
truncated with =20 mid-word, etc. I already removed two of them and 
retried to send the digest without success.

Incidentally, as I mentioned in the first message, I cleaned up the 
headers within digests by commenting out some lines in 
/handlers/ToDigest.py, excluding everything but date, to, from and 
subject. Is that likely to gum up the works somewhere along the line? I 
suppose that breaks rfc1153 by excluding message-id and keywords, but 
does that have any effect at all within a digest?

dan


On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 06:36  PM, Jon Carnes wrote:

I've had to go into Mbox before and delete a few messages that were
gumming up the works. What I normally do is simply look at the last
message to be processed and then delete the next message from the Mbox.
At that point it normally becomes obvious what the problem with the
offending mail message was - its always easier once you know which
message it is.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 19:06, Dan Phillips wrote:

Tried that and it reported no problems. The problem definitely seems 
to
be in digest.mbox, although I can't see anything wrong. I renamed it
and sent a test message to create a new one, the ran cron/senddigests
-l, and it went out fine. when I moved the original mbox back it
generated the same error. I also ran bin/cleanarch on it and it
reported no problems and the correct number of messages.

Where's the best documentation on the structure of an mbox file?

thanks!


On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 06:00  PM, Jon Carnes wrote:

Run a check_db on the offending list and see if the problem lays in 
the
Database for the list...

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 17:54, Dan Phillips wrote:
Any idea where this error is coming from? This error is coming from
only one list; a manual running of senddigests -l on other lists
functions perfectly.  /lists/problemlist/digest.mbox appears to be
fine. Any ideas? anyone? what else should I be checking?


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "/Users/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in
send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 129, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 290, in
send_i18n_digests
g(msg, unixfrom=0)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 100, in
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 128, in
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 154, in
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 212, in
_handle_text
raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload)
TypeError: string payload expected: 






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[Mailman-Users] RE;Cron/senddigests bug

[Dan Phillips]

Tried that and it reported no problems. The problem definitely seems to 
be in digest.mbox, although I can't see anything wrong. I renamed it 
and sent a test message to create a new one, the ran cron/senddigests 
-l, and it went out fine. when I moved the original mbox back it 
generated the same error. I also ran bin/cleanarch on it and it 
reported no problems and the correct number of messages.

Where's the best documentation on the structure of an mbox file?

thanks!


On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 06:00  PM, Jon Carnes wrote:

Run a check_db on the offending list and see if the problem lays in the
Database for the list...

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 17:54, Dan Phillips wrote:

Any idea where this error is coming from? This error is coming from
only one list; a manual running of senddigests -l on other lists
functions perfectly.  /lists/problemlist/digest.mbox appears to be
fine. Any ideas? anyone? what else should I be checking?


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "/Users/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in
send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 129, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 290, in
send_i18n_digests
g(msg, unixfrom=0)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 100, in
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 128, in
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 154, in
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 212, in
_handle_text
raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload)
TypeError: string payload expected: 






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[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Cron/senddigests

[Dan Phillips]

Any idea where this error is coming from? This error is coming from 
only one list; a manual running of senddigests -l on other lists 
functions perfectly.  /lists/problemlist/digest.mbox appears to be 
fine. Any ideas? anyone? what else should I be checking?

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "/Users/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in 
send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 129, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 290, in 
send_i18n_digests
g(msg, unixfrom=0)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 100, in 
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 128, in 
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 154, in 
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 212, in 
_handle_text
raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload)
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[Mailman-Users] cron/senddigests error

[Dan Phillips]

I suppose I may have created this problem by commenting out the 
inclusion of all but from, to, cc and subject in 
/mailman/handlers/ToDigest.py, but it hasn't created problems for any 
other lists, or previous digests. This error message came today:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "/Users/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 129, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 290, in 
send_i18n_digests
g(msg, unixfrom=0)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 100, in 
flatten
self._write(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 128, in 
_write
self._dispatch(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 154, in 
_dispatch
meth(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 212, in 
_handle_text
raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload)
TypeError: string payload expected: 

Comments in the ToDigest.py refer to the /qfiles/digest directory which 
doesn't seem to exist. I can manually send digests for all but one list 
w/o errors. The archives for the misbehaving list seem to be fine. What 
should I be looking for?

Thanks

Dan


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[Mailman-Users] postfix 2.0

[Dan Phillips]

current setup: Mailman 2.1, OS X Server 10.2.3, Postfix 1.1.11

I've followed the instructions in README.POSTFIX for integrating 
Postfix with Mailman, and everything seems to be working perfectly. 
Anything I need to look out for in upgrading Postfix to 2.0.1? Anything 
that needs to be changed in either MM or Postfix's main.cf? Any 
incompatibilities between Mailman/mta/postfix.py (or any other modules 
for that matter) and postfix 2.0.1?


thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on MacOS X

[Dan Phillips]

http://www.afp548.com/Articles/mail/python-mailman.html gives detailed 
instructions for installing MM 2.0.13. According to the author, it will 
soon be updated to reflect the differences in 2.1. That, along with the 
"readme.macosx" file included with the MM source should give you plenty 
to go on.


On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 04:37  AM, Claus Atzenbeck wrote:
I have MacOS X (version 10.2.3, but not the server version). I would 
like to install a mailing list server. Is there any documentation on 
installing Mailman on MacOS X? I have not found any MacOS specific doc 
on the web.


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[Mailman-Users] OS X StartupItems folder

[Dan Phillips]

Setup: OS X Server 10.2.3, MM2.1, Postfix 1.1.11, Apache 1.3.27

Has anyone put together a StartupItems folder for a similar setup? The 
script of course is supplied, and I think I can manage the Resources 
folder, but I'm clueless as to the required contents for the 
StartupParameters.plist.

Dan


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mm2.1 cookie problem?

[Dan Phillips]

I had the same problem initially. I manually deleted all the old 
cookies set by mailman and it worked fine. Deleting just the cookie 
from that list didn't help.

On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 01:29  PM, Bryan Fullerton wrote:
From time to time (ah, the best kind of bug), the cookie set when 
logging into a list seems to "go bad" - after authenticating, any 
other admin operation (admin pages, admindb, list archives) results in 
prompting again for the password every time a link is clicked or a 
form submitted.


Dan


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[Mailman-Users] web interface for creating new list

[Dan Phillips]

First, many thanks to David Gibbs for his help in answering my ignorant 
questions about updating a plaintext patched MM-2.0.13. My lists all 
seem to be functioning fine, and the enhancements to the program are 
amazing.

Has anyone put together an OS X style StartupItems folder for the 
qrunner daemon?

I did have one problem - trying to create a new list with the web 
interface generated the following:

Bug in Mailman version 2.1

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy 
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what 
happened. Thanks!

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
process_request(doc, cgidata)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 217, in 
process_request
sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 226, in create
_update_maps()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 47, in _update_maps
raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias 
/Users/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

My setup:

Mac OS X Server 10.2.3
Postfix 1.1.11
Apache 1.3.27
MM-2.1

I'm guessing this is a permissions issue? The postalias command is 
"root:staff -rwxr-xr-x" and the data/aliases file is "mailman:mailman 
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[Mailman-Users] upgrading plaintext patched 2.0.13 to 2.1

[Dan Phillips]

I apologize for my total ignorance of Python - the only programming I 
usually do is of concerts and recitals :-)

The upgrading readme for 2.1 mentions problems with versions having 
plaintext patch #413752. I followed the links and read all that is 
there, and also searched the archives, but am unsure how I need to 
proceed.

I located "if self.data_version >= mm_cfg.DATA_FILE_VERSION:" at line 
611 of the /Mailman/MailList.py file. Is this what needs to be altered? 
Do I just make the change to that file then run ./configure?

Thanks!

Dan Phillips
Professor of Horn, University of Memphis


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