[Mailman-Users] {RW-Spam?} New install problems

2010-05-15 Thread Dave Filchak

Hi folks,

I had mailman installed on a server that crashed badly. So, I have 
installed a fresh copy of mailman on a new server, or at least a new 
server for mailman. This server is the main mail server and secondary 
DNS server. Initially, the original mailman was installed an another 
server which was our secondary mail server and primary DNS server. So, 
essentially, I had to create mail aliases so that mail sent to any of 
the lists, were forwarded over to this now missing server for processing 
by mailman. Now, with the new install of mailman, it still seems to be 
trying to forward to the old server and I cannot find out where this is 
happening. We use postfix with all the email accounts stored in MySQL 
and Postfix admin as the front end to that. I can find no instances of a 
alias/forward to the old server and our aliases in 
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases is correct. There is not such reference 
in /etc/aliases as well.


I had no trouble setting up the new list and received no errors.

Anyone perhaps have an idea what might be going on here and possible 
ways to troubleshoot this?


Dave
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[Mailman-Users] move messages

2010-01-20 Thread Dave Filchak

Hi,

Is it possible to move just the messages and archive from one list to 
another? This would be the same instance of Mailman on the same server 
(obviously).


Cheers

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors on mailman startup

2009-05-29 Thread Dave Filchak

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Dave Filchak wrote:

  
Well .. I have ran through most of the FAQs and the debugging techniques 
listed in them and all SEEMS like it is functioning correctly. I have 
also upgraded Mailman to 2.1.8 from 2.1.6 and I still have the exact 
same problem. After upgrading, I didn't run the debugging stuff again so 
I will try it again but I honestly do not think that it will help me.




The exception occurs in the Python smtplib and is independent of the
Mailman version.

Did you actually do the test described in the post at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044976.html
(linked from the FAQ) as the Mailman user?
  

Yes. This test was fine.

Did you actually try to send mail as described in the post at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044746.html
(linked from the FAQ) as the Mailman user?
  
This worked as well although, as I mention below, I am not logged in a 
mailman as mailman has no login shell and no password. Do I need to 
create one for mailman and try it again?

If you did those as the Mailman user and they didn't show any error,
then I can't explain why it fails when OutgoingRunner does the exact
same thing.

  
Did not do them as the mailman user but as another user (not root). User 
mailman has no login shell (/sbin/nologin) Should mailman need a login 
shell and passwd? It never has before and mailman was working. Again, 
there was a UPS failure at my ISP and the servers lost power abruptly so 
something might have happened then. But everything else is working, 
including regular mail.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors on mailman startup

2009-05-29 Thread Dave Filchak

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Dave Filchak wrote:

  

Mark Sapiro wrote:


Did you actually do the test described in the post at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044976.html
(linked from the FAQ) as the Mailman user?
  
  

Yes. This test was fine.


Did you actually try to send mail as described in the post at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044746.html
(linked from the FAQ) as the Mailman user?
  
  
This worked as well although, as I mention below, I am not logged in a 
mailman as mailman has no login shell and no password. Do I need to 
create one for mailman and try it again?


If you did those as the Mailman user and they didn't show any error,
then I can't explain why it fails when OutgoingRunner does the exact
same thing.

  
  
Did not do them as the mailman user but as another user (not root). User 
mailman has no login shell (/sbin/nologin) Should mailman need a login 
shell and passwd? It never has before and mailman was working. Again, 
there was a UPS failure at my ISP and the servers lost power abruptly so 
something might have happened then. But everything else is working, 
including regular mail.




No. Mailman doesn't need a login shell or a password. You should be
able to do, e.g.

sudo -u mailman /bin/bash

in order to get a command shell running as mailman or

sudo -u mailman python

to get a python interpreter.

It seems there is a permissions issue somewhere that is preventing
mailman from accessing something. Make sure /etc/hosts and
/etc/resolve.conf are world readable. If that isn't it, try to narrow
it down by running the tests as mailman using sudo as above.

  
OK .. ran both tests as mailman. First one was fine. Second one, while 
it shown no errors initially, I only received the email that was sent as 
a rcpt (secondary email address). The To: email address did not get 
delivered. The smtp-failure logs do not show a specific error for that 
email transaction but it still shows a ton of the same errors, i.e.:


May 29 16:21:04 2009 (6489) Low level smtp error: (-2, 'Name or service 
not known'), msgid: mailman.1.1243617046.6486.some...@domain.net
May 29 16:21:04 2009 (6489) delivery to some...@domain.org failed with 
code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known')


Both /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts are world readable. I am truly stumped.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 63, Issue 53

2009-05-29 Thread Dave Filchak

snip
  
  
OK .. ran both tests as mailman. First one was fine. Second one, while 
it shown no errors initially, I only received the email that was sent as 
a rcpt (secondary email address). The To: email address did not get 
delivered. The smtp-failure logs do not show a specific error for that 
email transaction but it still shows a ton of the same errors, i.e.:


May 29 16:21:04 2009 (6489) Low level smtp error: (-2, 'Name or service 
not known'), msgid: mailman.1.1243617046.6486.some...@domain.net
May 29 16:21:04 2009 (6489) delivery to some...@domain.org failed with 
code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known')


Both /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts are world readable. I am truly stumped.




That example won't deliver to any addresses in the message headers. 
Also, it won't log any errors. Error will be written to Python's

stderr (normally the terminal). It sends to the addresses in the rcpts
list as those are the only addresses communicated via SMTP. I.e., the
envelope is sent to the rcpts regardless of what the message inside
the envelope says.

OK. I'm stumped too. Check the definitions of SMTPHOST and SMTPPORT in
Defaults.py and possible overrides in mm_cfg.py to make sure they are
'localhost' and 0 respectively.
  
OK .. well maybe something here. In Defaults.py SMTPHOST is set to 
'localhost' In mm_cfg.py, it is set to the actual public IP of the server.

Also, another thing that occurred to me at one point which I don't
think makes any difference and which looked OK in your prior post of
'ps' output, but make sure that a sendmail process didn't start on
it's own after the power failure.

chkconfig --list sendmail

or however you set these things on your system should show sendmail is
off at all run levels. sendmail should only be run by MailScanner.
  

sendmail is turned off at all levels.

If your python is 2.4.x or later, you can use the technique described
in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/-IA9 to obtain debugging info
from Python's smtplib. The extra information will be written to
Mailman's error log.
  
No such luck. This is an older system running the latest available for 
this system (2.3.4)


I am going to change mm_cfg.py to match Defaults.py or I guess I could 
just comment it out?


Dave


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 63, Issue 53

2009-05-29 Thread Dave Filchak

Mark Sapiro wrote:
Dave Filchak 
  
  
  
OK .. well maybe something here. In Defaults.py SMTPHOST is set to 
'localhost' In mm_cfg.py, it is set to the actual public IP of the server.




I'm fairly sure if you just remove the SMTPHOST = 'xx.xx.xx.xx' from
mm_cfg.py and restart Mailman, it will work.

I'm also fairly sure that if you set SMTPHOST to the IP instead of
localhost in the tests that they will fail.

Of course, none of this will explain why it quit after the power
outage, but I'm pretty sure the difference is a DNS issue.

  
Yup ... just sent a test email to a test list we have set up and it 
seems to be working. It is so weird though ... there is really no way I 
can think of that these would change even after an unscheduled abrupt 
shutdown like we had. And the thing is, this server was up and running 
for two years before that and running mailman with no issues. It is like 
a ghost in the machine. Very crazy!!


I wan to thank you for hanging in there with me. I really do appreciate it.

Dave

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[Mailman-Users] Errors on mailman startup

2009-05-28 Thread Dave Filchak
My ISP had a major power outage a while back and I realized that mailman 
was no longer running. When trying to start it again, I am getting the 
following errors:


/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start
Starting Mailman's master qrunner.
[r...@ebony ~]# Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
   main()
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
   qrunner.run()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run
   filecnt = self._oneloop()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop
   msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in 
dequeue

   fp = open(filename)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1243356180.407516+c6c334592170b450a79140940b2a3ba17d3b962a.pck'

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
   main()
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
   qrunner.run()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run
   filecnt = self._oneloop()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop
   msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in 
dequeue

   fp = open(filename)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1243535478.4113281+cdfdfd56b6ebc1b658ed9c772038562cb6090a8f.pck'


When we tried to send a message to the list ... it does not get sent. 
Anyone have any idea about what might be going on?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors on mailman startup

2009-05-28 Thread Dave Filchak

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Dave Filchak wrote:

  
My ISP had a major power outage a while back and I realized that mailman 
was no longer running. When trying to start it again, I am getting the 
following errors:


/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start
Starting Mailman's master qrunner.
[r...@ebony ~]# Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
   main()
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
   qrunner.run()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run
   filecnt = self._oneloop()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop
   msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in 
dequeue

   fp = open(filename)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1243356180.407516+c6c334592170b450a79140940b2a3ba17d3b962a.pck'

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
   main()
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
   qrunner.run()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run
   filecnt = self._oneloop()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop
   msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in 
dequeue

   fp = open(filename)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1243535478.4113281+cdfdfd56b6ebc1b658ed9c772038562cb6090a8f.pck'


When we tried to send a message to the list ... it does not get sent. 
Anyone have any idea about what might be going on?




See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/_4A9. If you go through the
steps in that FAQ and still have a problem, see
http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9.

  
Well .. this worked to get rid of the errors ... thank you. However, 
while I see no errors in the maillog, emails sent to mailman get 
delivered TO mailman but the emails are not forwarded to the list users. 
I have restarted mailman and run the cron job manually but still 
nothing. However, I tried to send an email from the command line and did 
not receive that either. I am using Sendmail with MailScanner but mail 
looks like it is being processed in the logs.


ps aux | grep sendmail gives me:

ps aux | grep sendmail
root 16749  0.0  0.2  9128 3632 ?S19:24   0:00 sendmail: 
server 189.27.106.155.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br [189.27.106.155] cmd 
read  
root 17070  0.0  0.1  9384 3100 ?Ss   19:28   0:00 sendmail: 
accepting 
connections 

smmsp17074  0.0  0.1  7388 2564 ?Ss   19:28   0:00 sendmail: 
Queue run...@00:15:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue 
root 17079  0.0  0.1  7560 2680 ?Ss   19:28   0:00 sendmail: 
Queue run...@00:15:00 for /var/spool/mqueue  
root 17569  0.0  0.2  9864 3588 ?S19:39   0:00 sendmail: 
server pool-96-241-183-254.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.241.183.254] cmd 
read 
root 17633  0.0  0.0  4708  692 pts/2R+   19:40   0:00 grep sendmail


ps aux | grep MailScanner
root 17106  0.0  1.4 27608 22028 ?   Ss   19:28   0:00 
MailScanner: master waiting for children, sleeping
root 17107  0.2  2.1 40812 32752 ?   S19:28   0:02 
MailScanner: waiting for messages
root 17126  0.2  2.1 41020 33028 ?   S19:28   0:02 
MailScanner: waiting for messages
root 17131  0.2  2.1 41016 33068 ?   S19:28   0:02 
MailScanner: waiting for messages
root 17681  0.0  0.0  5104  712 pts/2R+   19:42   0:00 grep 
MailScanner


Seems good though not sure about the line root 17106  0.0  1.4 
27608 22028 ?   Ss   19:28   0:00 MailScanner: master waiting for 
children, sleeping


Dave


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors on mailman startup

2009-05-28 Thread Dave Filchak

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Dave Filchak wrote:

  
My ISP had a major power outage a while back and I realized that mailman 
was no longer running. When trying to start it again, I am getting the 
following errors:


/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start
Starting Mailman's master qrunner.
[r...@ebony ~]# Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
   main()
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
   qrunner.run()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run
   filecnt = self._oneloop()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop
   msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in 
dequeue

   fp = open(filename)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1243356180.407516+c6c334592170b450a79140940b2a3ba17d3b962a.pck'

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
   main()
 File /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
   qrunner.run()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run
   filecnt = self._oneloop()
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop
   msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
 File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 143, in 
dequeue

   fp = open(filename)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out/1243535478.4113281+cdfdfd56b6ebc1b658ed9c772038562cb6090a8f.pck'


When we tried to send a message to the list ... it does not get sent. 
Anyone have any idea about what might be going on?




See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/_4A9. If you go through the
steps in that FAQ and still have a problem, see
http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9.

  

I have found the following in the smtp-failure logs:

failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known')

I have tons of these. I Googled this and one of the issues appears to be 
not having search my.domain in my resolv.conf file. I have added this 
but I still cannot get mailman to deliver any mail. Would really 
appreciate it if anyone has any other ideas about this.


Dave

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors on mailman startup

2009-05-28 Thread Dave Filchak
Well .. I have ran through most of the FAQs and the debugging techniques 
listed in them and all SEEMS like it is functioning correctly. I have 
also upgraded Mailman to 2.1.8 from 2.1.6 and I still have the exact 
same problem. After upgrading, I didn't run the debugging stuff again so 
I will try it again but I honestly do not think that it will help me.


Dave

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Dave Filchak wrote:
  
 
I have found the following in the smtp-failure logs:


failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known')

I have tons of these. I Googled this and one of the issues appears to be 
not having search my.domain in my resolv.conf file. I have added this 
but I still cannot get mailman to deliver any mail. Would really 
appreciate it if anyone has any other ideas about this.




So the problem is that Outgoing Runner can't send mail, so all the
outgong mail gets put in the retry queue and gets periodically
retried, but continues to fail.

There are two FAQs with information about this.
http://wiki.list.org/x/AoE9 and http://wiki.list.org/x/-IA9. Thes,
together with some archived posts they link to give some information
and debugging techniques. The resolv.conf addition worked in one case,
but it is not the only thing that can cause this nor the only solution.

  



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[Mailman-Users] adding users to MailWatch

2008-10-19 Thread Dave Filchak
Why is it that when you add a domain administrator for a particular 
domain, you get the following error when they try to look at or add to 
the white or black lists:


Username is not in the correct format to use this utility.

For instance, I gave him the username of: domainuser with a password 
(not his actual email password). This allows him to log into MailWatch 
and see the mail and quarantines for his domain. However, he gets the 
error noted above when he tries to access the lists. If I change his 
username to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it allows him to access the lists 
but retrieves no rows from the database, even though there is mail 
quarantined. The other weird thing is that, even though he can access 
the lists, the format is wrong i.e. @[EMAIL PROTECTED] rather 
than @hisdomain.com.


What am I missing?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] adding users to MailWatch

2008-10-19 Thread Dave Filchak
Sorry ... obviously I should watch which list I am posting to. Obviously 
... this was sent to the wrong list. Sorry for the noise.


Dave

Dave Filchak wrote:
div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedWhy is it 
that when you add a domain administrator for a particular domain, you 
get the following error when they try to look at or add to the white 
or black lists:


Username is not in the correct format to use this utility.

For instance, I gave him the username of: domainuser with a password 
(not his actual email password). This allows him to log into MailWatch 
and see the mail and quarantines for his domain. However, he gets the 
error noted above when he tries to access the lists. If I change his 
username to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it allows him to access the 
lists but retrieves no rows from the database, even though there is 
mail quarantined. The other weird thing is that, even though he can 
access the lists, the format is wrong i.e. @[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
rather than @hisdomain.com.


What am I missing?

Dave

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu/ISPConfig/Postfix/Mailman Installation Issues

2008-02-28 Thread Dave Filchak
Ki Song wrote:
 I recently installed the following:
 Ubuntu
 Apache
 ISPConfig
 Postfix
 Mailman

 As far as I know, Ubuntu, Apache, ISPConfig, and Postfix are running ok. I
 verified this by:
 - ssh'ing into the ubuntu server
 - logging into the ISPConfig pages on the server using a browser
 - sending/receiving email through the Postfix server

 I believe I installed mailman properly using this guide:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman

 However, when I try to log into my installation of mailman using a browser:
 http://www.myhostname.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin, there is a 404 error.

 The only error message I see that may be relevant is:
 NameVirtualHost myipaddress has no VirtualHosts mailman

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I don't believe you need the cgi-bin here.

I think it should be  http://www.myhostname.com/mailman/admin

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending mail to list members

2008-02-20 Thread Dave Filchak
Hello,

I am running Mailman version 2.1.6 and recently had to move my servers 
from one data center to another. This necessitated a change of IPs. 
Since the move, Mailman has refused to send out posts from my lists. 
Mail gets to the host and is redirected through aliases to the proper 
location, but then seemingly disappears. To be truthful, mail from the 
test list does show up very sporadically, sometimes hours later. But ... 
90% of the time .. nothing happens.

I am also running

Linux ebony.zuka.net 2.6.9-11.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed Jun 8 17:54:20 CDT 2005 
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
This is CentOS release 4.1 (Final)
This is Perl version 5.008005 (5.8.5)

This is MailScanner version 4.63.8

I have checked all the logs and can find nothing that sticks out. 
Nothing, other than the IP numbers have changed after the move. I am 
stumped so I am hoping someone might be able to suggest somewhere to 
look and some sort of troubleshooting that I may have missed.

Cheers

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password

2007-02-10 Thread Dave Filchak
Thanks for the reply. I am using Thunderbird and wanting to send html 
email to Mailman. I looked through the instructions on how to add a 
custom header and I am sad to say ... I don't get it. Any chance you can 
walk me through it? I have opened about:config but I am not sure what I 
am supposed to put in there and really don't want to screw up the install.

Thanks

Dave

Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Dave Filchak wrote:

   
 I am trying to post to a one way (announce only) list using a user whose 
 moderation bit is set, but am using the method described in the FAQ i.e. 
 adding Approved: password to the first line of the body, with a 
 carriage return and blank line after it. It keeps rejecting it with the 
 standard Sorry, this is an announce only list ...etc etc. Can someone 
 tell me if this still works and how and perhaps how I add this to the 
 header rather than the body?
 


 Yes, it works. Possible things that might be wrong are:

 the password - it must be the list's admin or moderator password;
 neither the site password nor a member's password will work, and it
 must not have angle brackets around it.

 the format of the post - if the post is HTML, the Approved: line in the
 body won't work. The Approved: line must be the first non-blank line
 in the first text/plain part of the message. If it is, it is removed
 from that part and an attempt is made to remove it from all other text
 parts of the message, but the removal from other parts is not
 guaranteed to work.

 In general, if the post is simple plain text, or multipart/alternative
 with text/plain and text/html alternatives, the Approved: line will
 work and it will usually be removed from both parts of a
 multipart/alternative message, but it can be left in the text/html
 part under some circumstances.

 If the Approved: line is an actual header rather than a body line, it
 will always be recognized and removed regardless of the MIME structure
 of the message. How to add such a header or if it is even possible
 depends on the user agent (mail client) used to compose and send the
 mail. You used Thunderbird to send this post. See
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Custom_headers for information on adding
 custom headers with Thunderbird.

   


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Re: [Mailman-Users] OT Approved: password

2007-02-10 Thread Dave Filchak
Thanks very much ... works like a charm.

Dave


Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Dave Filchak wrote:

   
 Thanks for the reply. I am using Thunderbird and wanting to send html 
 email to Mailman. I looked through the instructions on how to add a 
 custom header and I am sad to say ... I don't get it. Any chance you can 
 walk me through it? I have opened about:config but I am not sure what I 
 am supposed to put in there and really don't want to screw up the install.
 

 In about:config scroll down to mail.compose.other.header which probably
 says Status-default, Type-string and Value will be empty.
 Right-click that line (or control-click if you don't have a
 multi-button mouse), select 'modify' from the context menu and then
 enter 'Approved' (without quotes and without a colon) in the dialog
 box and click OK.

 Note that there might already be headers listed in the value of
 mail.compose.other.header if you have added any customized headers to
 any filters. If this is the case, just add Approved to the end of the
 list separated by a comma and no spaces.

 Then, when you are composing mail, if you click the down arrow you use
 to select To:, Cc:, etc. for addresses, you will be able to select
 Approved:. Do that and type the password on that line where you would
 normally type an email address.

   


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[Mailman-Users] Approved: password

2007-02-09 Thread Dave Filchak
I am trying to post to a one way (announce only) list using a user whose 
moderation bit is set, but am using the method described in the FAQ i.e. 
adding Approved: password to the first line of the body, with a 
carriage return and blank line after it. It keeps rejecting it with the 
standard Sorry, this is an announce only list ...etc etc. Can someone 
tell me if this still works and how and perhaps how I add this to the 
header rather than the body?

Mailman Version 2.1.9

Thanks

Dave

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unmoderated user being moderated

2006-08-18 Thread Dave Filchak
Issue Solved: I feel a bit stupid but it turns out that the message they 
were trying to send was over the size limit set in the list. A dumb 
mistake but I will learn from it.

Thanks everyone.

Dave

Heather Madrone wrote:
 Also, check to make sure that the list member is posting from his
 subscription address. You can add non-subscription addresses to
 the approved posters list in Privacy Options...Sender Filters
 to allow posts from a member's additional addresses to go through
 without moderation.

   
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[Mailman-Users] unmoderated user being moderated

2006-08-17 Thread Dave Filchak
Can someone give me a hint why an umoderated user, for the purposes of 
posting to a one-way list, wold continually be moderated? I have double 
checked the moderation bit and it is off.

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[Mailman-Users] A wee bit of help

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Filchak
Hello all,

I need just a wee bit of help. I have just set up Mailman on my
secondary mail server host and the installation all is well I believe. I
am trying to set the list so that it is in the form of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] This domain is a domain that we host both web and
mail for. However, I can see an issue with this in that if I send an
email to the list using [EMAIL PROTECTED], the email will go to my
main mail server which does not have this list on it, nor does it have
the user list or list-bounces, nor any of the other required users for
the list to operate properly.  I have all the required aliases on my
secondary mail server but do I need some sort of alias in my file on the
main mail server to point these emails back to the secondary server?  I
get a user unknown error for the user lists and of course lists-bounce
when I send an email to it. By the way, I am also trying to set this up
as a one way or newsletter list. If I send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], I get a Sorry, only the site administrator
can post to this list. which means I am communicating with the new
list, although I should not be getting this message as the email I sent
it through is in the admin list on Mailman.

Any help with this would most sincerely be appreciated.

TIA


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[Mailman-Users] Continuing problem

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Filchak
OK .. I am having a hell of a time trying to get this working so would
very much appreciate a helping hand from someone with more experience
with Mailman than I.

Here is what I want to happen:

I want to have a one-way list (Newsletter). I have set this up so that
everyone is moderated and I have three email address in the moderators
and admin slots. All of these users are members of the list. I want to
be able to send an email from one of the admin or moderator users to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] clientdomain.com is not the same domain as
the servers but it is a domain we host web and mail for.

Here is what I have so far:

The list is set up on the secondary mail server. The list set up went
without a hitch and Mailman emailed me the following aliases to add to
the aliases file, which I did and ran newaliases.

   
turningpoints:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
turningpoints
turningpoints-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
turningpoints
turningpoints-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
turningpoints
turningpoints-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
turningpoints
turningpoints-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
turningpoints
turningpoints-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
turningpoints
turningpoints-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
turningpoints
turningpoints-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
turningpoints
turningpoints-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
turningpoints
turningpoints-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
unsubscribe turningpoints

I also added to the alias file on the main mail server, the following:


turningpoints:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
turningpoints
turningpoints-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
turningpoints
turningpoints-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
turningpoints
turningpoints-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
turningpoints
turningpoints-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
turningpoints
turningpoints-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
turningpoints
turningpoints-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
turningpoints
turningpoints-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
turningpoints
turningpoints-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
turningpoints
turningpoints-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
unsubscribe turningpoints

so that when sending to the clients domain, the main server did not
reject the user as unknown.

No matter what I do, when I send an email to either
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED],
I receive a bounce message saying that only admins are allowed to post
to the list, of which the email I sent the original post from is a
member. I have even tried removing the moderated bit for that particular
email address with the same result.

What the hell am I missing??

TIA
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Continuing problem

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Filchak
Ok .. I know now what I was missing ... brain cells is what! It never
occurred to me that I had to approve the messages I was sending because
I never expected that if my email address was in the admin list that I
would still get the bounce message. That was wrong. So that is not such
a big deal although I would like it if I didn't get the bounce message
but I though there was a way to pass an Approved flag with the list
password in order to circumvent the moderation thing. I tried to add
Approved: listpassword to the subject line and as well as the first
line of the email with an empty line after it but the message still gets
held for moderator approval. What am I doing wrong with that?

Sorry for my dull head with the moderator thing.

Cheers

Dave

Dave Filchak wrote:
 OK .. I am having a hell of a time trying to get this working so would
 very much appreciate a helping hand from someone with more experience
 with Mailman than I.

 Here is what I want to happen:

 I want to have a one-way list (Newsletter). I have set this up so that
 everyone is moderated and I have three email address in the moderators
 and admin slots. All of these users are members of the list. I want to
 be able to send an email from one of the admin or moderator users to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] clientdomain.com is not the same domain as
 the servers but it is a domain we host web and mail for.

 Here is what I have so far:

 The list is set up on the secondary mail server. The list set up went
 without a hitch and Mailman emailed me the following aliases to add to
 the aliases file, which I did and ran newaliases.


 turningpoints:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
 unsubscribe turningpoints

 I also added to the alias file on the main mail server, the following:


 turningpoints:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
 turningpoints
 turningpoints-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
 unsubscribe turningpoints

 so that when sending to the clients domain, the main server did not
 reject the user as unknown.

 No matter what I do, when I send an email to either
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 I receive a bounce message saying that only admins are allowed to post
 to the list, of which the email I sent the original post from is a
 member. I have even tried removing the moderated bit for that particular
 email address with the same result.

 What the hell am I missing??

 TIA
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Continuing problem

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Filchak
Also sorry for not snipping my last post.  ;-(

Dave Filchak wrote:
 Ok .. I know now what I was missing ... brain cells is what! It never
 occurred to me that I had to approve the messages I was sending because
 I never expected that if my email address was in the admin list that I
 would still get the bounce message. That was wrong. So that is not such
 a big deal although I would like it if I didn't get the bounce message
 but I though there was a way to pass an Approved flag with the list
 password in order to circumvent the moderation thing. I tried to add
 Approved: listpassword to the subject line and as well as the first
 line of the email with an empty line after it but the message still gets
 held for moderator approval. What am I doing wrong with that?

 Sorry for my dull head with the moderator thing.

 Cheers

 Dave

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Continuing problem

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Filchak
Crap .. sorry .. must have mis-pasted, if that is a word!

What I actually have on the main server is:

turningpoints:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-bounces:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-confirm:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-join: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-leave:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-owner:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-request:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
turningpoints-unsubscribe:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dave



Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Dave Filchak wrote:

   
 OK .. I am having a hell of a time trying to get this working so would
 very much appreciate a helping hand from someone with more experience
 with Mailman than I.

 Here is what I want to happen:

 I want to have a one-way list (Newsletter). I have set this up so that
 everyone is moderated and I have three email address in the moderators
 and admin slots. All of these users are members of the list. I want to
 be able to send an email from one of the admin or moderator users to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] clientdomain.com is not the same domain as
 the servers but it is a domain we host web and mail for.

 Here is what I have so far:

 The list is set up on the secondary mail server. The list set up went
 without a hitch and Mailman emailed me the following aliases to add to
 the aliases file, which I did and ran newaliases.

   
 
 snip
   



 The main server group above are wrong. They say that mail to (for
 example) [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be piped to
 /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman on the main server which probably
 doesn't exist.

 Thet should probably be

 turningpoints:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 turningpoints-admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 and so on for the other 8

   
 No matter what I do, when I send an email to either
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 
 If [EMAIL PROTECTED] works at all, you either have mailman
 installed on that machine or the aliases on that machine are not what
 you said.


   
 I receive a bounce message saying that only admins are allowed to post
 to the list, of which the email I sent the original post from is a
 member. I have even tried removing the moderated bit for that particular
 email address with the same result.

 What the hell am I missing??
 


 See next reply.

   
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Continuing problem

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Filchak
Yeah, I missed that. Thanks. Almost there now. I really do appreciate
your patience. I will work on that sending Approve + password thing
tomorrow as its not a huge deal. However, one thing that still is. I
have configured the reply to in a way that I thought that the end user
would see a reply-to address in the headers that was not a reply to the
list. I have set the following:

Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address
(Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields): yes
Should any existing Reply-To: header found in the original message be
stripped? If so, this will be done regardless of whether an explicit
Reply-To: header is added by Mailman or not. : no
Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is /strongly/
recommended for most mailing lists. : Explicit Address
Explicit Reply-To: header.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However I still see:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Mailman-Users] Not Authorized

2005-10-04 Thread Dave Filchak
Hello,

I have just installed Mailman on CentOS4. Everything seems to be fine
until I try to set up a new list. I have searched the archives and the
general consensus is that when you receive a You are not authorized to
create a new list error, it means that you are not entering the
sitewidepass correctly or the List Creator's password correctly. I can
assure you that I am entering these both correctly and have tried these
many times and have re-created both passwords to be sure. So I am
wondering if anyone can shed some light on this?

As an aside, we did try to install Mailman using an RPM file but the web
server does not run under apache so we uninstalled Mailman and
reinstalled from source. I am wondering if the previous install of
Mailman might be affecting things.

All help is appreciated as I have a client anxiously awaiting use of
Mailman.

Cheers

Dave
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not Authorized

2005-10-04 Thread Dave Filchak
OK ... sorry for the waste of bandwidth but I did figure it out. It
appears as though the rpm install did leave some remnants about that
were not working. The paths were wrong in the
/etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf file for the ScriptAlias and the Alias
directives. Once I changed them to the proper location all was well.

Thanks

Dave

Dave Filchak wrote:

Hello,

I have just installed Mailman on CentOS4. Everything seems to be fine
until I try to set up a new list. I have searched the archives and the
general consensus is that when you receive a You are not authorized to
create a new list error, it means that you are not entering the
sitewidepass correctly or the List Creator's password correctly. I can
assure you that I am entering these both correctly and have tried these
many times and have re-created both passwords to be sure. So I am
wondering if anyone can shed some light on this?

As an aside, we did try to install Mailman using an RPM file but the web
server does not run under apache so we uninstalled Mailman and
reinstalled from source. I am wondering if the previous install of
Mailman might be affecting things.

All help is appreciated as I have a client anxiously awaiting use of
Mailman.

Cheers

Dave
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[Mailman-Users] HTML Newsletter

2005-10-04 Thread Dave Filchak
Two questions:

1. Can I use Mailman to send out a simple HTML newsletter?
2. Is there a way to import or subscribe a list of members to a
particular list .. i.e. a list that will receive the above newsletter?

Thanks for your help.

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[Mailman-Users] cgi user

2003-12-08 Thread Dave Filchak
Hello all,

At this point, I am using the default install of Mailman that came with
RedHat 9 and have updated the rpms to the latest RedHat release. However, I
have always ran apache as another user other than the default apache. So
naturally, when I try to go to the initial default mailman list that I set
up while doing the initial setup and config of Mailman, I get the error :

Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be
executed as one of the following groups:
[apache],
but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group: webadmin.
Try tweaking the web server to run the script as one of these groups:
[apache],
or re-run configure providing the command line option:
'--with-cgi-gid=webadmin'.

So my question is, other than re-installing Mailman from source, is there a
way to:

A: change a config option in the current installation to allow this to
execute cgi as user webadmin or

B: re-install from RPM using an install option --with-cgi-gid=webadmin

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

Dave

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RE: [Mailman-Users] cgi user

2003-12-06 Thread Dave Filchak
Ah ha ... yes I'll give that a try.

Cheers

Dave

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Dave Filchak wrote:
 At this point, I am using the default install of Mailman that came with
 RedHat 9 and have updated the rpms to the latest RedHat release. However,
I
 have always ran apache as another user other than the default apache. So
 naturally, when I try to go to the initial default mailman list that I set
 up while doing the initial setup and config of Mailman, I get the error :

 Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be
 executed as one of the following groups:
 [apache],
 but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group: webadmin.
 Try tweaking the web server to run the script as one of these groups:
 [apache],
 or re-run configure providing the command line option:
 '--with-cgi-gid=webadmin'.

 So my question is, other than re-installing Mailman from source, is there
a
 way to:

 A: change a config option in the current installation to allow this to
 execute cgi as user webadmin or

 B: re-install from RPM using an install option --with-cgi-gid=webadmin

I don't think so, but rebuilding the rpm is simple enough and will
keep all the settings except the cgi-gid setting exactly like your
current rpm install.  Just grab the mailman-2.1.1-4.src.rpm (or
whatever version you have) and install it, which puts the spec file in
/usr/src/redhat/SPECS/mailman.spec if you do this as root (you'll know
where it goes if you've customized rpm to install source rpms as a
normal user).

Then edit the spec file to change the cgiuser and cgigroup settings
near the top of the spec file, increment the Release field, update the
changelog (optional, but useful when you want to remember why you have
a different rpm installed than what redhat's shipping), and rebuild
using rpmbuild -ba /path/to/mailman.spec.

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