Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing from cell phones
--On May 5, 2005 09:32:08 -0700 Scot Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some phones are able to subscribe to mailing lists, but most are not. I really have no idea what mechanisms cause them to fail. My guess would be that maybe the phone is sending the reply to the wrong email address. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Attaching just word files
--On April 6, 2005 14:11:17 +0100 Adam Cripps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my clients has requested a list that only handles microsoft word attachments, whilst excluding all other attachments (and allowing all other normal email). Is this possible with mailman? I've tried adding the mime-type application/msword to the filter, but it still strips the word attachment. Any ideas? Adam Is the MIME type correct in the email? Often you see the generic: application/octet-stream. If that's the case, you're in trouble. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: OSX mailman problem
--On Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:59 pm -0600 Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 16, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:13 AM + 2005-03-16, Ian Eiloart wrote: Is there a way to query the Mailman version from the command line? Good question. I don't know. bin/version :-) Dan doh! So, yes 2.1.2 is the current version on MacOSX 10.3: [chip:/usr/share/mailman] iane% bin/version Using Mailman version: 2.1.2 -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: OSX mailman problem
--On March 16, 2005 10:10:08 +0100 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh. Please note that Apple has made a number of modifications to that version of Mailman, and they have not shared with us their changes. Our ability to support that version of Mailman is greatly reduced. Please see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp. Really? That would contravene the GNU license, surely? The FAQ says that they distribute a binary of the compiled parts, but not the source. They've added at least one script apple_config_list, but that _is_ source code, so it _is_ shared. The FAQ also says they've created a GUI interface to help edit the config file. It doesn't say they've modified Mailman at all. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: OSX mailman problem
--On March 16, 2005 10:57:08 +0100 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 9:52 AM + 2005-03-16, Ian Eiloart wrote: Really? That would contravene the GNU license, surely? The FAQ says that they distribute a binary of the compiled parts, but not the source. My understanding is that they have made changes to the code. They've added at least one script apple_config_list, but that _is_ source code, so it _is_ shared. Where is it shared? I haven't seen it. Well, the GNU license says that they have to share the source with the people that they distribute it to. If it's binary code, that means you have to distribute the source. If it's python scripts, then the executable code _is_ the source. I do see additions to the scripts, and the GUI is also an addition. I don't see modifications, though. One thing I can't tell is what version they've distributed. Is there a way to query the Mailman version from the command line? Anyway, it would have been good for Apple to submit their changes to Mailman. I'm just trying to figure out whether they've contravened the GNU license. If they've changed the source for the compiled parts, then they may well have. The FAQ also says they've created a GUI interface to help edit the config file. It doesn't say they've modified Mailman at all. Well, I wrote most of the original FAQ entry, but it's been a while so I'll have to go back and check what it says now. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Mailman installation?
--On Monday, November 15, 2004 13:43:27 GMT -0500 Michael Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to create a Mailman installation with 450 announcement-only mailing lists, and with around 50 umbrella lists. Each announcement list will have between 10 and 500 members. Each umbrella list is also announcement only made up of various combinations of the smaller announcement lists. Does anyone have any advice or experience in a setup like this? Thanks, Michael For that number of lists, its worth scripting your efforts. Check out the contents of $MAILMAN/bin. For the umbrella lists, make sure you enter the umbrella list address as a permitted poster for each of its members. Make sure that your MTA won't accept email addressed to the lists. Don't use mailman reject facilities, because that will cause spam messages to bounce back to the forged sender address. Mailman rejects cause MTA bounces, so it is better to reject at the MTA level. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman_sync --silent
--On Friday, October 22, 2004 11:43 am +0100 Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 Oct 2004, at 10:48, Ian Eiloart wrote: Hi, I have a cron job which syncs a mailman mailing list membership with a text file maintained by a web application. I used mailman_sync --silent in the code, but now mailman_sync complains that it doesn't support --silent. Is this a feature that has been lost in an update? Neither MM 2.1.4 or 2.1.5 (or previous if I recollect) have a command line script called mailman_sync. MM 2.1.4 or 2.1.5 (and previous if I recollect) have a command line script bin/sync_members but it did/does not have a --silent option. Is mailman_sync a local script. Oops, *blush*, yes. Its a script that calls sync_members, and I did have it using --silent. It worked from March to June 10, then stopped working. June 10 is the last modified date on sync_members. The problem is that, after removing the --silent option, I'm getting emails every five minutes telling me that mailman_sync had Nothing to do.! Redirect output of sync_members to /dev/null on the crontab entry ?? Hmm, yes. Except I want it to report what it does do. I don't want it to report that there's nothing to do. I guess I can pipe through egrep -v '^Nothing to do.$' Er, that doesn't seem to work, but if I pipe the output of the script through there, then that works. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] suscribe policy
--On Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:13 am +0200 Stefan Hofmeir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, how can I change the subscribe policy to no confirmation (no user confirmation, no admin confirmation)? I am using mailman 2.1.5. You can't. That would be a very bad thing, since it would allow me (for example) to subscribe you (for example) to mailing lists that you didn't want to belong to. Only the administrator of the mailing list should have that power. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie requesting basic how-to
--On Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:29 am +0200 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:08 PM +0100 2004-09-22, Ian Eiloart wrote: I think that what is called for is an installer package, using one of the various installer systems out there. Now, that would NOT entail creating an application, just writing some installer config files. The problem is that you have to do this across every platform we support. Moreover, each platform will have their own concept of how Mailman should be packaged and installed, with their own tools, and this method would be in direct conflict with that. Moreover, you would then have to port that installer package along with you everywhere. That would get the software installed, but not configured. Still, that would make life easier for people installing the software. If you want that, use one of the packaged versions provided by your OS vendor. I wasn't calling for it, just clarifying what the other person was asking for. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie requesting basic how-to
--On Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:56 am +0200 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by a simple GUI front end? I mean, even the simplest X11R6 application is going to be larger than the entire Python/Mailman project, even if it's just the graphical version of Hello, World! I think that what is called for is an installer package, using one of the various installer systems out there. Now, that would NOT entail creating an application, just writing some installer config files. That would get the software installed, but not configured. Still, that would make life easier for people installing the software. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about inserting HTML into Mailman
--On Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:07 pm -0400 Jen Minotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've developed an HTML eNewsletter that I want to send out through a Mailman list that was set up. When I copy and paste the code into the body of the message, it doesn't come through. What do I need to do to make the newsletter appear as it is laid out? Thanks! Jen You can't really do that with email. you can't guarantee that your recipients will even be able to read html email. Even if they can, email clients often only render a limited subset of HTML - the ones that don't limit what they render are a security hazard. You can include links to web pages in plain text email, and generally people will be able to click through to the page. If you must write an HTML newsletter, do it in a mail client that can generate HTML. Don't do it by cutting and pasting from some other HTML tool. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] illeagal email address
--On Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:04 am -0700 John W. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/2004 20:15, Al Mellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we are having a problem with the following type of email address weincek_g/[EMAIL PROTECTED] it seems that the forward slash is having mailman listserv reject this email address and any others loke it. Is there a way around it? Well, the address is legal per the RFCs. Some MTAs protect themselves against the damage such addressing can do (eg, when computing a local part's mail directory path, and the address is crafted to do harm) by disallowing it in their default configurations. Yep, if you are on pretty much any linux/unix/macosx system, then using a slash in a list name is asking for trouble. My *guess* is that the Mailman code would prohibit it. After all, Mailman uses the list name as a file or directory name in several places. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] regular expressions in whitelists
--On Thursday, September 9, 2004 6:27 pm +0200 martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I promise, I searched the web for this, but all I could find was information that I am doing this right. I am trying to get a CVS commits list to accept mails from our CVS domain, using the following regexp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@cvs\.ailab.\.ch$ ^ | ++ | That extra dot looks wrong - unless you are trying to match multiple domains like cvs.ailaba.ch and cvs.ailabb.ch However, this is not matching, I still have to moderate the posts, which is very annoying. Could you please tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks, -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] regular expressions in whitelists
--On Friday, September 10, 2004 11:43 am +0200 martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also sprach Ian Eiloart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.09.10.1136 +0200]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@cvs\.ailab.\.ch$ ^ | ++ | That extra dot looks wrong Oh my. Sorry for the noise. There's something to be said about four eyes see more than two. I am sorry, I stared at this for hours... How did you know I wear specs? @8^) Regular Expressions, though; they can be a real pig to debug! http://www.pairprogramming.com/ -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] www.domain.com vs domain.com
--On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 10:23 am -0500 John Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newbie here - Mailman working fine, but my lists only show when viewing domain.com and not when viewing www.domain.com. My DNS is OK, and virtual host is setup with either type of reference. (My other website stuff is viewable with or without the www). Where/how to indicate that either URL reference do the same thing? Thanks! - John In your web server configuration. Or, you can configure Mailman to give the www.domain.com address. BTW, if you are using example domains, use example.com - its specially reserved for that in the same way that US area code '555' is reserved for use in films and so on. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Make sure that only our newsletter can be delivered to a mailing-list that is not moderated
--On Friday, August 27, 2004 2:07 pm +0200 Jacob Friis Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We will use Mailman to send our newsletter. This newsletter will be sent from the same server every time. The mailing-list will not be moderated, as the newsletter will be sent automatically by a script, sometimes in the weekend where no staff is at work. How can we secure our list server? Just add all the necessary addresses to the list of addresses that are allowed to post to the list. Moderate all other senders. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs bcc
--On Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:28 pm +0200 Jacob Friis Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can mailman send mail just as fast as if I send 1 mail to 1000 addresses in bcc, assuming that the mta accepts 1000? Thanks, Jacob No, but it should be plenty fast enough. And more reliable. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spaces in Email Addresses
--On Monday, August 23, 2004 10:03 pm +0200 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:14 AM -0400 2004-08-20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have and address that is too long. How do I get my address book to take it. Address book? There is no address book in Mailman. Moreover, space characters are not allowed in e-mail addresses. Huh? there were no spaces in the email address mentioned. Just what program are you thinking of here? -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP our administrator/moderator can't access our list anymore!
--On Monday, August 16, 2004 12:01 pm -0700 jill woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Looking for a lifeline to revive our administrator. Can anyone reset the password to administer this list? As you can read below, the administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED], no longer has the cookie and therefore we are all unable to change anything. Her current password is goober. If there is anything that can be done, we would greatly appreciate it. contact Liz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Jill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Candy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] the list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks if you can help, Jill You don't need a cookie if you have the password, but you do need to enable cookies to use the web interface. If you have access to the command line, you can change the password with the change_pw command. Otherwise ask your site admin to do that for you. Great web site, btw! PS, don't go posting passwords to public sites! If the password is still goober, then you could be trouble. -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
