Re: [Mailman-Users] monster created! untangling many lists with many subscribers?

2003-09-25 Thread morna findlay
We're running mailing lists for one school within a university.  The 
school has
several hundred subscribers (personnel) split amongst faculty, staff and
students, a number of different institutes and programs, all spread over 6
different geographic locations.  There are members of each institute at each
location.  There are members of each program at each location, and within each
institute.  Each location, institute and program has faculty, staff, 
and students.

We have been asked to create a list for essentially every different 
permutation;
 all faculty, all faculty at location A, all faculty at location A 
in program B,
all faculty at location A in institute B and program C, all staff ... you get
the point.
We keep several hundred lists up to date by sourcing the membership 
of each list from our school database. There's enough info in the 
database to figure out, for example

- a list of students taking each module
- a list of staff responsible for each module
- a list of staff in each location
- a list of staff on each grade
and so on and so on.

In other words - we can create and keep up to date dozens of lists 
that no-one will ever use :-)

We then use CVS to send updates from the database in the form of 
files to the mailman server, and use the  sync_members command to 
update the membership every night thus:

#!/bin/sh
#
#Update mailman list memberships from flat files
#
PATH=your path here
export PATH
export elistdir=your  list path here/elists
export elistdir
for i in `ls $elistdir  `; do
echo $i
your mailman path here/bin/sync_members   -w=no -a=no -f 
$elistdir/$i $i
done



It's a bit clunky but it works fine.

The main problem is - moderating the dratted lists.

You seriously don't want to have to do that yourself. Not even to start with!

My advice is to give each group of lists a list-owner and send mail 
for that list-owner to a shared mailbox and let local admin staff get 
on with the moderation duties.

cheers!
M
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Re: [Mailman-Users] can I reset the list-admin passwords of many lists at the same time?

2003-09-18 Thread morna findlay
At 8:55 am -0700 9/17/03, Con wrote:
You can update the MM site password using mmsitepass located in the 
~mailman/bin directory


Hi - thanks, but I was hoping there was some way of updating several 
( well, lots) of list passwords
at once, without using the site password, if you know what I mean.

Thanks for replying

M

con

On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 04:04 AM, Morna Findlay wrote:



Hi all.

As we have many lists owned by the same list-master, up to now 
we've just used the site password to moderate these lists and set 
up the lists
with any odl gobbledegook as the password.

Now we want to pass on the moderation to a member of staff who doesn't
need to know the sit password.
Question - can we reset the list-admin passwords pr 200+ lists all at once?

Please say yes!

cheers!

Morna

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[Mailman-Users] setting lots of list admin passwords at once

2003-09-18 Thread Morna Findlay
Thanks to Anand for his set_list_pass script at:

http://www.progsoc.org/~wildfire/code/

Does just the job!

Morna

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[Mailman-Users] can I reset the list-admin passwords of many lists at the same time?

2003-09-17 Thread Morna Findlay


Hi all.

As we have many lists owned by the same list-master, up to now we've 
just used the site password to moderate these lists and set up the lists
with any odl gobbledegook as the password.

Now we want to pass on the moderation to a member of staff who doesn't
need to know the sit password.
Question - can we reset the list-admin passwords pr 200+ lists all at once?

Please say yes!

cheers!

Morna

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