[Mailman-Users] Re: What regular expressions are allowed for Mailman topics?
Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/12/22 10:45, Frank Thommen wrote: > > Dear all, > > I'm trying to implement Mailman topics through regular expressions. > > However I'm not sure, what expression types are supported. I was trying > > * ^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN) -> > > * ^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN) - > > to catch subject lines like "OK -> CRIT some text" and "UP -> DOWN some > > text" ecc. The regexpes above don't catch these mail, even though they > > should be perfectly ok according to several regular expression testers. > > Interestingly > > * ^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN) > > /does/ match, but I require the trailing " ->" to discern from other, > > very similar subjects. > > I'm not sure what the asterisks are, maybe bullets? Yep. The asterisks are the bullets of a bulleted list and /not/ part of the regexp. Sorry, if my formatting was unclear in that respect. > The regexp '^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN) ->' should match, e.g. > Subject: OK -> anything That's exactly what I want to achieve. But this doesn't seem to work, as these mails are /not/ added to the respective topic. > > I also didn't find any reference documentation regarding the supported > > regular expression syntax. Is there any? > > https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/re.html That's what I thought, but then why does '^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN) ->' not lead to an email with the respective topic but '^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN)' does? > > Out Mailman version is 2.1.9 > > Really? 2.1.9 is over 15 years old and 30 releases behind. Don't tell me :-). But we can't influence that. We are just consumers of this service Cheers, Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] What regular expressions are allowed for Mailman topics?
Dear all, I'm trying to implement Mailman topics through regular expressions. However I'm not sure, what expression types are supported. I was trying * ^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN) -> * ^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN) \- to catch subject lines like "OK -> CRIT some text" and "UP -> DOWN some text" ecc. The regexpes above don't catch these mail, even though they should be perfectly ok according to several regular expression testers. Interestingly * ^(OK|WARN|CRIT|UP|DOWN) /does/ match, but I require the trailing " ->" to discern from other, very similar subjects. I also didn't find any reference documentation regarding the supported regular expression syntax. Is there any? Out Mailman version is 2.1.9 Cheers, Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.23: Issues with mailmanctl restart
Hello, I have seen recently issues with mailmanctl restart: From time to time there seems to be some kind of race condition between shutdown and startup. Inside qrunner log it looks something like — but not started. Jun 18 02:20:21 2017 (30372) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jun 18 02:20:21 2017 (30368) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jun 18 02:20:21 2017 (30368) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Jun 18 02:20:21 2017 (30372) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Jun 18 02:20:21 2017 (30370) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jun 18 02:20:22 2017 (30370) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Jun 18 02:20:21 2017 (30373) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jun 18 02:20:22 2017 (30367) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jun 18 02:20:22 2017 (30367) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Jun 18 02:20:22 2017 (30369) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jun 18 02:20:22 2017 (30373) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Jun 18 02:20:22 2017 (30369) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Jun 18 02:20:22 2017 (30371) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jun 18 02:20:24 2017 (30371) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Jun 18 02:20:22 2017 (30374) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Jun 18 02:20:25 2017 (30374) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. (the restart is getting triggered by some logrotate-magic but this is also happening from time to time when executing it directly) I cannot see any segfault or exception by now and wondering whether only me is seeing this kind of issue? Regards, Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with "Reply-to:"
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 08:47:41 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 20:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Robert Heller wrote: > > [ ... ] > > The outgoing MTA has no special handling for "Reply-To:" and I've looked at > the > spool file, it has no "Reply-To:" :-( > > > > You could look at your Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py in the section > > > that begins with the comment > > > > > > # Reply-To: munging. ... > > > > > > to see it it looks correct. In particular, this > > > > > > # List admin wants an explicit Reply-To: added > > > if mlist.reply_goes_to_list == 2: > > > add(parseaddr(mlist.reply_to_address)) > > > > > > is what puts reply_to_address in the Reply-To: header in the outgoing > > > message. > > I'll do this, definitly. Oh wonder, I found exactly this code snippet :-( Kind regards, Frank Elsner -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with "Reply-to:"
On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 20:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Robert Heller wrote: [ ... ] The outgoing MTA has no special handling for "Reply-To:" and I've looked at the spool file, it has no "Reply-To:" :-( > > You could look at your Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py in the section > > that begins with the comment > > > > # Reply-To: munging. ... > > > > to see it it looks correct. In particular, this > > > > # List admin wants an explicit Reply-To: added > > if mlist.reply_goes_to_list == 2: > > add(parseaddr(mlist.reply_to_address)) > > > > is what puts reply_to_address in the Reply-To: header in the outgoing > > message. I'll do this, definitly. Kind regards, Frank Elsner -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Trouble with "Reply-to:"
Hi, running mailman-2.1.12-26.el6.x86_64 under Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.9 we have trouble with the "Reply-To:" header settings. The list config contains first_strip_reply_to = 1 reply_goes_to_list = 2 reply_to_address = 'redac...@mailbox.tu-berlin.de' but mails going though the list have no "Reply-To:" line in header. What might be the cause? What overlooked? Where to look? Kind regards, Frank Elsner -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Moderation by email instead of web interface ?
Hello Anyone could send me some info on how to configure a particuliar list to be moderated through email and NOT with the web interface with the Approve mechanism Thank you -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Setting uo a closed list
Hello I need to setup a closed list. That is a list where only members can post AND cannot unsubscribe , this would be an emergency list so it is really important that users do not unsubscribe ! Thank you for any infos / useful links -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting uo a closed list
hello Ralf OK thanks *Frank BONNET* Systemes UNIX et Reseaux ESIEE PARIS 01.45.92.66.17 - 06.70.37.37.69 2014-06-05 14:38 GMT+02:00 Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de: * BONNET, Frank frank.bon...@esiee.fr: Hello I need to setup a closed list. That is a list where only members can post That's the default AND cannot unsubscribe, unsubscribe_policy - yes -- Ralf Hildebrandt Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin ralf.hildebra...@charite.deCampus Benjamin Franklin http://www.charite.de Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin Geschäftsbereich IT, Abt. Netzwerk fon: +49-30-450.570.155 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hide footer URL in posts ?
Hello I'm new to mailman :-) Is there a way to hide/remove the footer added by mailman to distributed posts that give the URL of the list ? Thank you -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Block of text near footer?
Mailman version 2.1.12 Can a block of text be placed near the footer on created\posted mails, e.g.? Request will expire June 2014 -- http://list.example.com I'm uncertain how to enter such a string in the footer text box. ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Question] Where are the Moderated Messages?
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:58:26 +0100 Oliver Niebuhr googleers...@oliverniebuhr.de wrote: Well thats bad as we Mailman Admins dont have Deep Access to that Part of the Server. I dont understand why there is no UI for Accessing this Messages directly - in one way or another. Can your ask your infra\sysadmin to forward to you? ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin vs moderator...
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:23:11 -0800 (PST) Richard rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: ...I should have clarified: Her key problem seems to be moving from a screen where she used her Moderator password to successfully log in, to the administrator interface. It asks her for the administrator password. How is she supposed to manage subscriptions if she can't log in to the administrator interface? Thanks... http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-admin/node5.html Moderator doesn't log in to the admin interface. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-December/041411.html ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 18:08:04 +0100 Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com wrote: Look at the email footer ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD run once?
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:01:02 -0600 Barry S. Finkel bsfin...@att.net wrote: On 1/2/2014 8:42 AM, Gary Algier wrote: Hi, I just installed a new Mailman (2.1.12) server on Centos 6.4. One question I have had for a while - As 2.1.17 is the latest release Mailman, why do people do new installations with versions that are old? 2.1.12 released 2009-02-23 2.1.17 released 2013-11-23 I did Google searches, and I found that CentOS 6.4 was released May 23, 2013 and contains Mailman 2.1.12. CentOS prefer stability, #like other enterprise distros for latest updates use *buntu, fedora etc.. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to programmatically disable all mail to member
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:56:41 +0100 Peter Heitzer peter.heit...@rz.uni-regensburg.de wrote: We do not delete student or staff accounts immediately but set them disabled for about 6 month before deleting the accounts. While an account if disabled its mail address is no longer in the mta's alias tables and so any mail from a mailman list the user is subscribed to will bounce. Maybe set such users to nomail? -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.12
Mailman 2.1.12 New to Mailman, and indeed python. looking through the Admin Interface. I'm trying to work out where to place following: Subject must contain: from (the word) Mail Body must contain: Reporter: @ (word Reporter: + @ symbol) Even http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/3+List+administrator+tasks hasn't shed light for me. My grey logic processor is borked. -- Regards, Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Uninstall mailman manually
I have to add, that I needed to copy the files: /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db from my old list, to send mails. Got some really clear error notes in my mail.err logfile :) frank -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: mailman-users-bounces+francwalter=gmx@python.org [mailto:mailman-users- bounces+francwalter=gmx@python.org] Im Auftrag von Frank Walter Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Mai 2012 00:25 An: 'Mark Sapiro'; mailman-users@python.org Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Uninstall mailman manually Mark this was working, I thank you very much. I deleted (indeedly just renamed): /var/lib/mailman /usr/lib/mailman /etc/mailman and after this I just could install mailman normally through aptitude. The links you gave me instructed me to import old lists to the new installation, which was easy enough. I want to thank you much. frank -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2012 16:57 An: Frank Walter; mailman-users@python.org Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Uninstall mailman manually Frank Walter wrote: I installed mailman on Ubuntu 12.04 by Aptitude and copied an older version over it because I wanted to keep mailing lists from another server. You should have only copied the lists/LISTNAME/config.pck and the archives/private/* files. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/2oA9 After this mailman didn't start anymore but in aptitude I couldn't uninstall it neither. Now I hope that I can uninstall it by deleting the two mailman folders and the config in /etc/mailman - is this the right way? I think that will work, but see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/OIDD. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/francwalter%40gmx.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Uninstall mailman manually
Hello I made some mistake I think. I installed mailman on Ubuntu 12.04 by Aptitude and copied an older version over it because I wanted to keep mailing lists from another server. After this mailman didn't start anymore but in aptitude I couldn't uninstall it neither. Now I hope that I can uninstall it by deleting the two mailman folders and the config in /etc/mailman - is this the right way? I am at a point that I prefer to create new the only needed mailing list (about 30 addresses only and the archive is not important) rather than spending hours with error seeking without result. If only I get it fresh installed... Help appreciated :) Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Uninstall mailman manually
Mark this was working, I thank you very much. I deleted (indeedly just renamed): /var/lib/mailman /usr/lib/mailman /etc/mailman and after this I just could install mailman normally through aptitude. The links you gave me instructed me to import old lists to the new installation, which was easy enough. I want to thank you much. frank -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2012 16:57 An: Frank Walter; mailman-users@python.org Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Uninstall mailman manually Frank Walter wrote: I installed mailman on Ubuntu 12.04 by Aptitude and copied an older version over it because I wanted to keep mailing lists from another server. You should have only copied the lists/LISTNAME/config.pck and the archives/private/* files. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/2oA9 After this mailman didn't start anymore but in aptitude I couldn't uninstall it neither. Now I hope that I can uninstall it by deleting the two mailman folders and the config in /etc/mailman - is this the right way? I think that will work, but see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/OIDD. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web Admin Security Question
try an alias Alias http://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/admin https://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ https://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/admin https://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin ISS 785-670-2334 1 Cor 15:10 By the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain . . .. On 5/21/2012 8:46 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I can't find any of this on the old server so I cannot understand what I did to make it work. I am not an Apache expert so I am having trouble with step 1 and hope someone can get me over this hump. I have SSL working as I can access the admin pages using https. However, I can also access it using http so I am not forcing SSL. I did not quite understand the looping caveat in option one so I tried the rewrite rule in option 2. That did not seem to do anything but there was no indication in the instructions where that should go. I have a .conf file that loads the SSL module and sets up the certificates. I added the rewrite code to that file. On 5/20/2012 8:17 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Dennis Putnam wrote: After migrating my OS from Mandriva to CentOS I noticed that SSL mailman web access is no longer used. Is this something that is no longer necessary or do I still have more configuring to do? Do I really need SSL or is the management of web admin out of the box sufficient? If you care about sending your admin and moderator passwords in the clear over HTTP, you will want to use HTTPS. See The FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/7oA9 for instructions on how to set this up. Don't omit steps 2 and 3. these are important. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/frank.bell%40washburn.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web Admin Security Question
sorry about that Alias http://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/admin https://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/admin Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin ISS 785-670-2334 1 Cor 15:10 By the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain . . .. On 5/21/2012 9:30 AM, Frank Bell wrote: Alias http://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/admin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Web Admin Security Question
It does for us. Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin ISS 785-670-2334 1 Cor 15:10 By the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain . . .. On 5/21/2012 3:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Frank Bell wrote: Alias http://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/admin https://lists.washburn.edu/mailman/admin Does this actually work? Apache documentation states the target of an Alias is a file path or directory path, not a URL path. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] CheckdB sending double msgs
Hi, We are running version 2.1.12 on Redhat. We have checkdbs running at 8AM each morning as mailman, it is not in the cron of root or any other user. We have alias-mgr set as administrator for a number of lists, and no moderator has been set. checkdbs is sending out double moderator requests for just those lists that alias-mgr is the admin for. Any thoughts as to how to troubelshoot OR an explanation. NOTE: all our settings and owners and moderators are exactly the same from the previous version. Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin ISS 785-670-2334 1 Cor 15:10 By the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain . . .. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some pending requests not showing up
Well, I'm still adjusting as a Application Systems Admin as opposed to a Systems Admin. It looks very much like the problem was that after migration to a new server the Sysadmin didn't shut the old server down, so the cronjobs were sending version 2.1.5 msgs to the newer 2.1.12 server. We will know for sure tomorrow when the cron jobs kick off on the new server. (we shouldn't get notifications that don't exist) Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin ISS 785-670-2334 1 Cor 15:10 By the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain . . .. On 3/12/2012 8:12 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Frank Bell wrote: mailman 2.1.12 We have some notifications to the owners that are stating Post by non-member to a members-only list But when they follow the link, there are no pending requests. On one of these I as admin followed the same link the first time and the options were there, the second time I followed it, they weren't. Check Mailman's vette log to see what happened to these requests. Possibly they were discarded by the poster or another moderator. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Some pending requests not showing up
mailman 2.1.12 We have some notifications to the owners that are stating Post by non-member to a members-only list But when they follow the link, there are no pending requests. On one of these I as admin followed the same link the first time and the options were there, the second time I followed it, they weren't. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin ISS 785-670-2334 1 Cor 15:10 By the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain . . .. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] A list is rejected by email server after migration
After an upgrade last night all our lists can send email except one. It is rejected by the smtp server it says that address does not exist. The mailman page for the list exists, the mbox file exists Any thoughts on what went wrong and how to fix it? (just happens to be the iss-directors list) -- Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin ISS 785-670-2334 1 Cor 15:10 By the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain . . .. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] A list is rejected by email server after migration
All, within the last ten minutes my linux sysadmin discovered that the mailman-aliases file at /etc/mail did not for some reason contain one or two entries. (yes after migration I ran genaliases ) Solution was: He brought the old mailman-aliases from the old server, copied the missing entries into the new mailman-aliasesand then ran newaliases Thanks for the response!! Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin ISS 785-670-2334 1 Cor 15:10 By the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain . . .. On 2/29/2012 11:13 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Frank Bell writes: After an upgrade last night all our lists can send email except one. It is rejected by the smtp server it says that address does not exist. The mailman page for the list exists, the mbox file exists Any thoughts on what went wrong and how to fix it? (just happens to be the iss-directors list) While this is probably not the best place to get help for this problem -- it's almost surely *not* a *Mailman* problem -- we will give it a try. But we need to know what exactly was upgraded and migrated, from where to where? Especially, which MTA(s) is (are) used at your site by hosts involved in list post distribution. And what address is being rejected by what server. (Feel free to post the entire rejection message. That's best. If necessary you can redact information that needs to be private, but that may make diagnosis inaccurate.) Specifically, if the SMTP server says the address doesn't exist, the problem is in the MTA configuration. The first thing to do is to check for a typo in the aliases for the MTA. The second is that some MTAs (Exim, for one) support automatic aliases based on certain conditions that can include the presence of config files and the like. Perhaps a prerequisite for auto-aliasing is missing for that list. There are other possibilities but those are the first ones off the top of my head. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminder for moderator?
I guess the payoff is that the software works well, is free, and maintained for free. Plus, we have Mr Sapiro who nicely answers our questions for free. Thanks Mark!! Sorry, the response just bugged me. On 1/11/2012 2:18 PM, Gerard Henry wrote: On 01/11/12 05:36 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Gerard Henry wrote: i'm using mailman 2.1.8. A user who acts as a moderator forgot his password. As administrator, i can reset a new password for the moderator, but is it possible to have a password reminder for the moderator? No. List admin and moderator passwords are kept in an encrypted form and the plain text password is not retrievable. i'm sorry if this is a newbie question, but why the moderator is not taken as a member of a list? in my opinion, this is often the case, isn't ? and if the moderator is also a member of the list, he has to remember two different password, not very friendly gerard -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/frank.bell%40washburn.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting old msgs?
You did the work, so I'll just thank you very, very much!! Have a merry Christmas or Hanukkah or . Thank you, Frank Bell Application Systems Admin Information Systems and Services Washburn University Topeka, KS 66621 785-670-2334 On 12/2/2011 5:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Frank Bell wrote: Is there any easier way? I just took over our mailman server and we have several years worth of messages in 190+ mboxs totaling approx 130 gig and a few 100K msgs. You inspired me. I've created a script for pruning archives. See NOTE ON PRUNING OLD MESSAGES: in the FAQ athttp://wiki.list.org/x/2YA9 for links. Since this is a brand new process, I suggest you make backup copies of the LISTNAME.mbox files before starting. The script has a --backup option, but I would make separate backups to be sure until you've run the script successfully. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Archive folder for migration
A few hopefully simple questions for upgrade to a new server. 2.1.5 -- 2.1.12 1) Do I even have to move the Archives folder contents for a migration 2) Can't I just regenerate Archives if we need them? 3) Since Archives are just a set of folders, can I just right a script to selectively copy newer items based on date?? Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Deleting old msgs?
I've seen a post on one method for removing old msgs involving copying a mbox to another location, opening it with a mail client, review/delete msgs, and then replace the mbox, run a process. I'm very very new to mailman, so forgive me. Is there any easier way? I just took over our mailman server and we have several years worth of messages in 190+ mboxs totaling approx 130 gig and a few 100K msgs. Thanks, Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailman question concerning member limit
I have looked around and didn't find a definitive answer to my question either in the FAQ's or web search. I am maintaining a list using Mailman v2.1.12 and Windows 7. I find that I can only have 100 users to my list. Mailman will not let me enter more than 100 users into it. From what I have read, it is possible to have many more users than that. I just don't know what to do or how to make the number bigger. I would greatly appreciate if I could get some help on this matter. Thank you in advance.. Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman question concerning member limit
This is what I get from Mailman when I go to the mass subscription option... Your list already has more than 100 members. To unsubscribe members please use the Mass Removal link Thanks for your reply. Frank * Frank Caltabiano bigfr...@digitalpath.net: I have looked around and didn't find a definitive answer to my question either in the FAQ's or web search. I am maintaining a list using Mailman v2.1.12 and Windows 7. I find that I can only have 100 users to my list. Mailman will not let me enter more than 100 users into it. From what I have read, it is possible to have many more users than that. I just don't know what to do or how to make the number bigger. Which error are you getting once you're adding the 101st recipient? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bigfrank%40digitalpath.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Backing Up the List of Members
2010/11/15 Alan McConnell a...@patriot.net: Assembled Wisdom! I am big fan of mailman and admin three E-lists managed by mailman. These lists are hosted on remote computers. I am now having the problem: I wish to back up the list of members of a couple of my lists to my home machine. I used to get all the members on one page. Now the members are alphabetized and each initial letter is put on a diffent page. I can still back-up, but it is a laborious process. Is there a command to exhibit all members on one page? or, better yet, is there a command an administrator can invoke to have the members, if possible with their flags, shipped to my home computer? TIA for anticipated help! /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members listname you can also use list_lists --bare to enumerate the lists -- Frank Van Damme No part of this copyright message may be reproduced, read or seen, dead or alive or by any means, including but not limited to telepathy without the benevolence of the author. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] confirm moderator approval
Hi, mailman sends messages to the user if his mail is held for approval or when the mail is rejected, but not when approved. Is it possible to configure mailman to send a message to the user when his message is approved? -- Frank Van Damme No part of this copyright message may be reproduced, read or seen, dead or alive or by any means, including but not limited to telepathy without the benevolence of the author. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Server name change - how?
2010/10/23 Dale Lora Marshall marsh...@cliffhanger.com: When I originally set up mailman my server had a name that wasn't in DNS. I have since changed the name of my server to something that is in DNS. But, emails that go out still reference the old name and some messages are bouncing because the recipient does a DNS check on incoming emails. How can this be fixed? Thanks. - Dale It's probably in the configuration of the mailing list itself (directive host_name I would guess). -- Frank Van Damme No part of this copyright message may be reproduced, read or seen, dead or alive or by any means, including but not limited to telepathy without the benevolence of the author. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] can't display list config
Hi list, I'm getting errors while trying to dump the config of a mailing list to a text file. /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o listname listname [...] # For backwards compatibility with Mailman 1.1, if the regexp does not # contain an `@', then the pattern is matched against just the local # part of the recipient address. If that match fails, or if the pattern # does contain an `@', then the pattern is matched against the entire # recipient address. # # Matching against the local part is deprecated; in a future release, # the pattern will always be matched against the entire recipient # address. acceptable_aliases = Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list, line 362, in module main() File /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list, line 355, in main do_output(listname, outfile) File /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list, line 131, in do_output do_list_categories(mlist, k, subcat, outfp) File /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list, line 183, in do_list_categories lines = value.splitlines() AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'splitlines' I must add to this that we have a very large number (24000+) of mailing lists. I'm not sure if that matters, but we've had problems with the webinterface, which doesn't display the full list of mailing lists. list_lists works fine though, and it also doesn't seem to matter if I try this with a list from the top or from the bottom of the list of lists. I'd try to fix this myself but unfortunately I don't speak Python... -- No part of this copyright message may be reproduced, read or seen, dead or alive or by any means, including but not limited to telepathy without the benevolence of the author. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] webmail problems
Hello, I am one of the two people authorised to enter email address into the mailing list for the flying-circus.org group. I noticed this morning that messages sent to circ...@flying-circus.org are bouncing back with the message : The following message to circ...@flying-circus.org was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'This account cannot accept incoming mail.' I also get that message if I write to the mailman at that address. If I try to log in to the site, I get this message : CGI script error Error: No such list circus6_flying-circus.org Can you tell me what is wrong with the system and our webmail list? Thank you, Frank (for Ed Maycen) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] config_lists yields error
Hi all,
I've a working installation of mailman-2.1.11.
Suddenly the config_lists stops working :-(
The command ./config_list -o - sandbox ends its output with
| ## Nondigest options
| #
| Traceback (most recent call last):
|File ./config_list, line 362, in ?
| main()
|File ./config_list, line 355, in main
| do_output(listname, outfile)
|File ./config_list, line 128, in do_output
| do_list_categories(mlist, k, None, outfp)
|File ./config_list, line 148, in do_list_categories
| desc = NL.join([s.lstrip() for s in info[0].split('\n')])
| AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'split'
As far as I remember the command worked in the past and the list wasn't
re-configured.
What's the reason? Any pointer to solve the problem is welcome.
--Frank Elsner
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Re: [Mailman-Users] config_lists yields error
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:37:57 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote:
Hi all,
I've a working installation of mailman-2.1.11.
Suddenly the config_lists stops working :-(
The command ./config_list -o - sandbox ends its output with
| ## Nondigest options
| #
| Traceback (most recent call last):
|File ./config_list, line 362, in ?
| main()
|File ./config_list, line 355, in main
| do_output(listname, outfile)
|File ./config_list, line 128, in do_output
| do_list_categories(mlist, k, None, outfp)
|File ./config_list, line 148, in do_list_categories
| desc = NL.join([s.lstrip() for s in info[0].split('\n')])
| AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'split'
As far as I remember the command worked in the past and the list wasn't
re-configured.
Sorry to reply to my own question but the problem is solved.
It was a stupid error in modifying NonDigest.py to hide some topics.
--Frank Elsner
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[Mailman-Users] Site specific defaults
Hi*, I'm new to mailman, which is in general running at my site. My question is: Where to define site scpecific defaults? Which file of Defaults.py. MailList.py and mm_cfg.py is best? Regards, Frank Elsner -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Mark Sapiro wrote: But here's the thing: the only occurrence of [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the fresh system is a .forward file in /root, /var/spool/postfix, and /home/ftg. The test message is sent from the 'ftg' ID whose home directory is /home/ftg. Do you guys follow or look at .forward files ? If not, I can't imagine how mailman is getting hold of this address. No. MDAs look at .forward files. Mailman doesn't know anything about them. End of mystery. My test machines all use a third-party relay server which requires From: to be one of a fixed set of pre-registered values. I handle this by using Postfix's generic file to rewrite the sender on outbound messages to the 'frank.griffin' address above. Apparently, it also rewrites the Reply-To: address. Mailman was correctly setting Reply-To: to listnamelistaddress. Postfix was rewriting listaddress to the fixed address from the generic file, thus causing the error I saw. This won't affect the machines on which I actually run Mailman for production, so it appears that the porting procedure (augmented by fix_url) is successful. However, this can easily bite anyone who runs a server-type system at home and needs to conform to the sending policies of a commercial relay server. Maybe worth an entry in the FAQ ? Mark, thanks for your time and help in resolving this. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Charles Marcus wrote: On 3/17/2008, Frank Griffin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: My test machines all use a third-party relay server which requires From: to be one of a fixed set of pre-registered values. I handle this by using Postfix's generic file to rewrite the sender on outbound messages to the 'frank.griffin' address above. Apparently, it also rewrites the Reply-To: address. Yuck... why? Worst case is they should require secure smtp auth (with TLS), which does NOT require rewriting the headers. It's their billing model. Most ISPs refuse to support secure SMTP because of the perceived cost of encryption. The relayer does, but charges you twice as much for using TLS (actually, mails/bytes are billed against your account limit at 2x their value). But that's unrelated to... the fixed-address stuff: they sell allowable addresses in blocks of 15, probably figuring that if you're representing more than 15 mail addresses, you're really a business and should be paying more. A real nuisance for Linux systems where every daemon and his brother sends mail with a different From: address. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Charles Marcus wrote: Most ISPs in the US simply allow relaying on their IP blocks... But, they don't absolutely need to support *secure* smtp auth - basic smtp auth would be much better than using and easily forged 'From:' header... I'd find another ISP/3rd party relay service... Relaying on their IP blocks isn't the problem. The problem is laptops when you travel outside of their IP blocks and still want to run your system in production mode, i.e. having daemons send email back home. That's when they shut you down. They don't seem to want the risk of basic SMTP auth being cracked or sniffed, so they just refuse to relay for anything outside their IP block, period, no matter what. Since I don't want to have to reconfigure may laptop every time I leave home, I need the relay service. Because of that, it's also more convenient for use on my home machines, since the relayer is more lenient about what it thinks is spam or oversized mails. All my systems pretty much use the same configuration model that way. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Charles Marcus wrote: I'm confused... above you say that they don't allow relaying from outside their network 'no matter what'... then you say you need their relay service while outside their IP block... The ISP and the third-party relayer are two different companies. I need the relay service because the ISP won't relay from outside their own block. The relayer doesn't have an IP block; you sign up, get an ID, pay, and do basic auth SMTP from anywhere. You appear to be saying that it is when sending from outside their IP block that they do this relay filtering based on an easily forged 'From: header. No, they use basic auth. Any ISP that doesn't allow the use of TLS for sending while outside their networks is not to be trusted, so my original comment stands - I'd get another ISP if possible. Unfortunately, in the US, if you want cable (as opposed to satellite or DSL), you are at the mercy of whichever cable ISP owns the fiber to your house. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Mark Sapiro wrote: Frank Griffin wrote: According to the UPGRADE document, file formats have changed as have actual files (some new, some gone). What triggers the 2.1 version to do the necessary conversions ? Is it just finding files of the old version and recognizing them as such ? Yes, as far as the old config.db to new config.pck conversion is concerned. As far as other files such as the pending database and qfiles are concerned, these will be converted by bin/update if you are upgrading an installation, but if you are simply moving lists from an old to a new installation, it is best to deal with pending requests and queued messages on the old system and blow off anything that is left. There is no automated way of converting these in the new installation. Does the last_mailman_version in the data directory trigger this ? No. last_mailman_version tells bin/update whether it needs to do anything. This comes into play when installing an upgrade, but when moving an old list's config.(db|pck) into an existing installation, it is the DATA_FILE_VERSION in the config file itself that triggers the update. There are various minor concerns, such as file permissions, aliases, redoing public archive symlinks, and so forth. This made me wonder if it would be easier/possible to run bin/newlist for each existing 2.0 list in the 2.1.9 system, and *then* bring over the data, lists, and archives/private directories. Advisable ? No. This is absolutely wrong. If you create the list on the new system first, Mailman will always see that list's config.pck and will never look at the config.db that you move over. My advice is: Do not create the lists on the new host. Do not move anything from the data/ directory. Move only the config.db from the lists/listname/ directories. Move the archives/private/ tree. Run bin/list_lists which will instantiate every list and convert every old config.db to a new config.pck. Run bin/genaliases to create/update aliases. After conversion, remove the config.db files as if you don't, a possible future problem in reading the config.pck and config.pck.last files could cause Mailman to fall back to the then outdated config.db. Public archive symlinks will be created automatically the first time a list's configuration is saved. The bin/list_lists accessing and converting of the config.db files won't do this, but a list post or accessing the admin web interface for a list will. Mark, Thanks for the reply. I've recently gotten back to this and wanted to post my results. In addition to the steps you posted, I needed to run withlist -a -l -r fix_url. However, I have one anomaly that still needs resolution: All of the lists I moved had the option set to reply to the list (yes, I know), and they show up this way when I display them in the admin UI. However, when I post to them, the post mails arrive with a reply-to of the poster and the list description linked to an email address of the list owner, e.g. List-Id: WebData Project Discussion webdata.ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com List-Unsubscribe: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/mailman/listinfo/webdata, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/pipermail/webdata List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/mailman/listinfo/webdata, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WebData Project Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this case, the list owner is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the poster is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . It seems to me that this ought to be WebData Project Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Did I miss a step ? What can I do to correct this ? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Frank Griffin wrote: In this case, the list owner is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the poster is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . It seems to me that this ought to be WebData Project Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Did I miss a step ? What can I do to correct this ? Addenda: I set up a new list on the same host with [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the owner and as a subscriber, and sent a post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the list. When [EMAIL PROTECTED] received the copy of the post, the headers were: From: Frank Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20071128 SeaMonkey/1.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ftgtest] test X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: ftgtest.ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com List-Unsubscribe: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/mailman/listinfo/ftgtest, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/pipermail/ftgtest List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/mailman/listinfo/ftgtest, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Frank Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The interesting thing is that the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address, while the administrator address for the mailman server which previously owned all of the transported lists on the original host, doesn't figure *anywhere* in the definition of the ftgtest list on the new host. The ftgtest list has a null description, which is why its references here aren't of the form x[EMAIL PROTECTED] as in the previous example. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Mark Sapiro wrote: I'm not sure what's happening in total, but the '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is your own Reply-To: from the incoming post. The default is to add any additional reply-to address to that. If you want it removed, you need to set first_strip_reply_to to Yes. As far as the rest of it is concerned, I don't understand what's happening. If reply_goes_to_list is set to This list, what is put in Reply-To: should just be the list posting address [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I don't know where the list description and owner address are coming from. Is there anything in reply_to_address (although it doesn't seem that this could do what you see anyway)? It wasn't the addition of [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the reply-to that made me curious (I can see that this list does that as well), but the fact that the second entry has the correct description but the wrong address. Referencing my later post, it seems to be getting the address from somewhere external to the actual list profile. Where exactly is the authoritative location for these settings ? I'll print and post them. Nothing shows in the UI for an explicit reply-to address, and the option to use one is not checked. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Mark Sapiro wrote: Frank Griffin wrote: Addenda: I set up a new list on the same host with [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the owner and as a subscriber, and sent a post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the list. When [EMAIL PROTECTED] received the copy of the post, the headers were: From: Frank Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20071128 SeaMonkey/1.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??? Yeah :-) Subject: [Ftgtest] test X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: ftgtest.ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com List-Unsubscribe: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/mailman/listinfo/ftgtest, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/pipermail/ftgtest List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://ftgme2.griffin.selectbs.com/mailman/listinfo/ftgtest, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Frank Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a standard Mailman, Errors-To: and Sender: would both be [EMAIL PROTECTED] as would the envelope sender (possibly visible in a Return-Path: header). The interesting thing is that the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address, while the administrator address for the mailman server which previously owned all of the transported lists on the original host, doesn't figure *anywhere* in the definition of the ftgtest list on the new host. Why is it the To: address of the post? You've got me. I'm assuming that all this stems from some anomaly in the upgrade that was done of the files copied from the old system. What mailman is this? I know it claims to be 2.1.9, but where does it come from and in what ways does it differ from the Mailman project's 2.1.9 distribution? It's the Mandriva Cooker (2008.1 RC2) rpm : mailman-2.1.9-4mdv2008.1.i586.rpm -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Mark Sapiro wrote: It appears non-standard in at least a few obvious ways, and I have no way to know in what others. You might find answers using Mandriva support resources I did before posting here, but found no bug reports there or on Google which resembled this in any way. There's always the fallback of getting the source package and examining it, which I will do if I have to (my RPM skills are somewhat limited), but I can't imagine that nobody using Mandriva's package would have noticed this and reported it. I can't help but think that it's more probable that this is a porting issue. I can, and will, do one more test short of pulling apart the RPM. I'll do a fresh Mandriva install, create a list, and see if the behavior is the same. If it isn't, that should point the finger at the porting. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists
Hi all, I need to migrate lists from an *old* Slackware system running MM 2.0 (0x20f0) to a new system where MM is installed via RPM (2.1.9). I've read the posts linked to by the FAQ, and the basic procedure is to copy the data, lists, and archives directories and run withlist fix_url. But I have a couple of minor questions: According to the UPGRADE document, file formats have changed as have actual files (some new, some gone). What triggers the 2.1 version to do the necessary conversions ? Is it just finding files of the old version and recognizing them as such ? Does the last_mailman_version in the data directory trigger this ? There are various minor concerns, such as file permissions, aliases, redoing public archive symlinks, and so forth. This made me wonder if it would be easier/possible to run bin/newlist for each existing 2.0 list in the 2.1.9 system, and *then* bring over the data, lists, and archives/private directories. Advisable ? TIA -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] HTML Email Newsletter Problem on 2.1.9
Has anyone else had a problem sending html emails through 2.1.9? I am running a virtual dedicated server (linux Fedora Red Hat 6 with a Plesk interface) at my webhost. On one of my domains I have set up a list and am trying to send an html email. I have tried: 1html page through Entourage with inline files (everything has been correctly uploaded to the server in same directory) 2multipart/alternative through PHPMailer 3webpage through Thunderbird. I have content filtering set to ³off² and have gone though all the setting a hundred times. Nothing seems to work, and the page arrives as plain text with a bunch of jumbled links. (I also have my client set correctly to receive html and have tried it on several client platforms.) AND the email comes through fine when I send it through a different list (on a different domain on a different server and host) running Mailman 2.0. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Tom -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mhonarc and non-world-readable archives problem
I've built mailman-2.1.9 with the mhonarc patch (http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/mhonarc/index.html) and it works great. I am running on Solaris 10 with python 2.5. The problem I have is that the list archives are not created world-readable. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/mailman/archives/public]# ls -l total 1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 webservd mailman 34 Jan 7 15:32 test - /var/mailman/archives/private/test [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/mailman/archives/public]# ls -l test/ total 21 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman9 Jan 7 15:35 2007-January -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1537 Jan 7 15:35 2007-January.txt drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman3 Jan 7 15:35 htdig -rw-rw-r-- 1 webservd mailman 2640 Jan 7 15:35 index.html -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 566 Jan 7 15:35 pipermail.pck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/mailman/archives/public]# ls -l test//2007-January total 38 -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 6851 Jan 7 15:35 .mhonarc.db -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 1177 Jan 7 15:35 author.html -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 1191 Jan 7 15:35 date.html lrwxrwxrwx 1 mailman mailman 11 Jan 7 15:35 index.html - thread.html -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 2402 Jan 7 15:35 msg0.html -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 1205 Jan 7 15:35 subject.html -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 1145 Jan 7 15:35 thread.html [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/mailman/archives/public]# In mm_cfg.py, I have MAILMAN_GROUP = 'mailman'. Now, if I set that to www then would that make these files be created with group www? Just wondering, because that doesn't actually help me. My webserver (thttpd) requires that files be world-readable in order to serve them, regardless of whether the web server actually has access permission. Also just wondering, why is public/test a symlink to ../private/test? The mailing list (and the archives) are not private. So how can I make the archives be created world-readable? thanks -frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mhonarc and non-world-readable archives problem
On January 7, 2007 5:25:49 PM -0800 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Cusack wrote: I've built mailman-2.1.9 with the mhonarc patch (http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/mhonarc/index.html) and it works great. I am running on Solaris 10 with python 2.5. The problem I have is that the list archives are not created world-readable. ... So how can I make the archives be created world-readable? I'm guessing this has something to do with the MHonArc patch you installed, but I really don't know. I looked over the patch and didn't see any umask changes. Maybe it was another patch that did something. Anyway ... I changed the MHONARC_ARCHIVER_PATH option to include '-umask 002' and it works. That's good enough for me. -frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.[56] installation problem w/ KoreanCodecs
Hi, found this message back from 2005/11/28: make install dies with (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib /usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib --install-purelib /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib --install-data /home/mailman/2.1.5/pythonlib); \ done /usr/local/lib/python2.4/distutils/dist.py:222: UserWarning: 'licence' distribution option is deprecated; use 'license' warnings.warn(msg) src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 This happens with either 2.1.5 or 2.1.6, various versions of Python as well. It's on Solaris 10 with Sun's bundled gcc (/usr/sfw/bin/gcc). Rather furstrating. Is there an easy way to just skip these codecs i have no use for? I came across the same problem with mailman 2.1.9 and thought I'd share my solution. This is due to a bug in Solaris 10 headers. signal.h includes sys/regset.h which pollutes the macro namespace (if you will) with definitions for x86 registers, like GS and SS. This is only on Solaris/x86; Solaris/sparc doesn't have this error. Before running configure, I do this: # work around solaris bug # http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5074551 gtar zxf misc/KoreanCodecs-2.0.5.tar.gz perl -i -pe 's/GS, N/MYGS, N/; s/CODE.GS./CODE(MYGS)/; s/SS, N/MYSS, N/; s/CODE.SS./CODE(MYSS)/;' \ KoreanCodecs-2.0.5/src/hangul.c gtar zcf misc/KoreanCodecs-2.0.5.tar.gz KoreanCodecs-2.0.5 The tarball has to be unpacked and repacked because 'make' unpacks it. If you unpack it and patch it, without repacking it, 'make' will overwrite your changes when it unpacks it again. -frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Defaults.py doco bug
# If you set MTA='Postfix', then you also want to set the following variable, # depending on whether you're using virtual domains in Postfix, and which # style of virtual domain you're using. Set this flag to false if you're not # using virtual domains in Postfix, ... Actually it has to be an empty list, not false (or False). I wondered if that was wrong since false wasn't capitalized, but I decided it must be a typo and tried False. Which of course doesn't work. -frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Change entire user list
Hi; I supervise a Mailman list for a club of RVers which has about 550 members. Once a month I get a new roster to put up on the site, but I don't get specific changes to email addresses, new members or deleted members. Is there a simple way to unsubscribe the entire current list and mass subscribe the new list? Thank you. Frank Baillie -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman OutgoingRunner issue?
Mailman, Ok, I had this problem below. But what makes this interesting there were some queued messages in the out (bound) queue directory. Which one of these where not delivered. However, the queued file was further removed but did not deliver the message to the list. The message did get into the archive which I thought was interesting. My customer had to resent the message to list which this worked without a flaw. Basically my question is this. When the OutgoingRunner has an error like this is it plausible for it empty the out queue before it has time to restart it. I am running sendmail 8.13.3+ with mm-handler. I do realize that mm-handler can cause some problems with incoming e-mail. That however was not the case here. Cause Mailman had gotten the mail which was in the 'out' queue. PROBLEM: log from the ERROR file Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): Traceback (most recent call last): Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): File /usr/local/libexec/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): main() Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): File /usr/local/libexec/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): qrunner.run() Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): File /usr/local/RPM/USER/TMP/mailman-2.1.5-root/usr/local/libexec/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 87, in run Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): File /usr/local/RPM/USER/TMP/mailman-2.1.5-root/usr/local/libexec/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 134, in _cleanup Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): File /usr/local/RPM/USER/TMP/mailman-2.1.5-root/usr/local/libexec/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 132, in _cleanup Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): File /usr/local/RPM/USER/TMP/mailman-2.1.5-root/usr/local/libexec/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 120, in _register_bounces Jul 19 17:32:05 2005 qrunner(7779): File /usr/local/RPM/USER/TMP/mailman-2.1.5-root/usr/local/libexec/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py, line 131, in registerBounce END Best Regards, Frank Torres -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Reject post by user problem
Hi Mailman Users: I maintain an open-source tool called TestMaker. I use MailMan 2.1.4 with Postfix. Over the years I have received messages from new users complaining that after they subscribe to a list they get rejection notices from Mailman when they go to post to a list. What steps should I take to resolve these complaints? -Frank --- Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone: 408 374 7426 Author of Java Testing and Design: From Unit Tests to Automated Web Tests from Prentice Hall, details at http://thebook.pushtotest.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive pipermail question
Ok, yea but is there a way to automate changing the list archive (pipermail) to automatically change the attachments in archive over to either public/private when the customer wants to change the archive attribute? On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 22:07 +0900, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: Hi, My question is simple is there an easy way around this problem or should I find fifth of vodka and call it day. Basically the dilemma is I am converting old majordomo lists that have attachments but some of the mailman archives need to be set private. Any ideas are welcome thanks You should first set archives private then generate pipermail archive by bin/arch --wipe listname. -- Frank Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Archive pipermail question
Ok, lets say you have an list that was public and with in the archive folks have sent various attachments. Now Looking at the archive at the end there is an hotlink with the attachment in the archive. Next you click on it brings up whether to save it open under another program etc. Now lets say you actually did not want the archive to be public you now go to the administration interface and set it private. All good now you have use your e-mail address and password to get to the archive great. Now your in the archive you click on an attachment and guess what error no attachment can be found ugh? My question is simple is there an easy way around this problem or should I find fifth of vodka and call it day. Basically the dilemma is I am converting old majordomo lists that have attachments but some of the mailman archives need to be set private. Any ideas are welcome thanks PS: I am using the mailman/bin/arch program to bring the archives over from majordomo. -- Best Regards, Frank Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Both Mailman and Majordomo
Well, I thought I would contribute what I have done to get majordomo and mailman running on the same host. This all done with sendmail 8.13.1+ version so use those sendmail books if you have an older/newer version of sendmail. Add the following flags to mm-handler under sendmail: F=A/|: Add these to the flags of the mm-handler line. (/) is probably not necessary I just have not tried it with out. (A) forces alias lookups. (:) is for (:include:) part of majordomo which is not the default no more or least not in 8.13.1+. (|) is necessary because majordomo uses pipes/forks process off to majordomo. I am very pleased that I do not need to edit the mm-handler even though I had started. This will now allow me to cleanly migrate my customer off of majordomo to mailman. My thanks to everybody that helped Best Regards, Frank T. On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 00:24, Richard Barrett wrote: Why not consider modifying the mm-handler Perl script. It currently knows how to deliver to Mailman lists and knows what Mailman lists there are by looking up Mailman file structures on disk (see line 203 onwards of the code) and then running the Mailman delivery wrapper. I do not user majordomo, but presumably an equivalent piece of code to confirm and deliver to majordomo's lists could be fashioned and added. btw: do beware the existing latent defect of the mm-handlers failure to properly check the return code when it call close on the pipe being used to do the delivery, which can lead to silently lost/undelivered messages - see next sentence for a hint at what needs to be done. Also consider that mm-handler's home grown bounce generator can be substituted by simply having it return the appropriate exit status to sendmail, which will then generate the bounce message in it normal way. You could also consider switching to a Python equivalent of mm-handler without the defect. See: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detailaid=644810group_id=103atid=300103 On 30 Sep 2004, at 23:57, Frank Torres wrote: Maybe I'll get this right really tired at analyzing sendmail crap. Ok, as per Brad Knowles I am not using aliases for mailman but mm-handler and an sendmail.m4 with adding an mailer called Mmmhandler,. as per the mailman documentation. Howerver in the F=snip I added the 'A' flag to do alias expansion but mailman seems to still fire off. I really need to use the mm-handler I need to move away from have sudo access as root and my time being sucked into mail list management it sucks. Best Regards, Frank Torres On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:05, Frank Torres wrote: Sorry, I'll be a little clearer this time here is what I am trying to do. Please let me know if this is possible. somelist@my.domain Based on somelist I scan the aliases file for majordomo stuff then If I do not find nothing go to mailman and see if list is in mailman. I really do not want to do different domains if at all possible. I should be able to use the same domain. All using the most friendly mta's ever built sendmailgrin Best Regards, Frank Torres On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 12:25, Frank Torres wrote: Queston, I have been unsuccessful at getting mailman and majordomo to run on the same host. I am using sendmail and the mailman mm-handler. Mailman is working great its just that majordomo is not. I did put an 'A' in the mailer table for alias expansion but that does not seem to work completely. If some body has done this and can share this info that would be great. I have been scouring the web to no avail. I need to transition majordomo out but I can not do it abruptly. Best Regards, Frank _ _ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ __ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http
[Mailman-Users] Both Mailman and Majordomo
Queston, I have been unsuccessful at getting mailman and majordomo to run on the same host. I am using sendmail and the mailman mm-handler. Mailman is working great its just that majordomo is not. I did put an 'A' in the mailer table for alias expansion but that does not seem to work completely. If some body has done this and can share this info that would be great. I have been scouring the web to no avail. I need to transition majordomo out but I can not do it abruptly. Best Regards, Frank signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Both Mailman and Majordomo
Sorry, I'll be a little clearer this time here is what I am trying to do. Please let me know if this is possible. somelist@my.domain Based on somelist I scan the aliases file for majordomo stuff then If I do not find nothing go to mailman and see if list is in mailman. I really do not want to do different domains if at all possible. I should be able to use the same domain. All using the most friendly mta's ever built sendmailgrin Best Regards, Frank Torres On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 12:25, Frank Torres wrote: Queston, I have been unsuccessful at getting mailman and majordomo to run on the same host. I am using sendmail and the mailman mm-handler. Mailman is working great its just that majordomo is not. I did put an 'A' in the mailer table for alias expansion but that does not seem to work completely. If some body has done this and can share this info that would be great. I have been scouring the web to no avail. I need to transition majordomo out but I can not do it abruptly. Best Regards, Frank __ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Both Mailman and Majordomo
Maybe I'll get this right really tired at analyzing sendmail crap. Ok, as per Brad Knowles I am not using aliases for mailman but mm-handler and an sendmail.m4 with adding an mailer called Mmmhandler,. as per the mailman documentation. Howerver in the F=snip I added the 'A' flag to do alias expansion but mailman seems to still fire off. I really need to use the mm-handler I need to move away from have sudo access as root and my time being sucked into mail list management it sucks. Best Regards, Frank Torres On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:05, Frank Torres wrote: Sorry, I'll be a little clearer this time here is what I am trying to do. Please let me know if this is possible. somelist@my.domain Based on somelist I scan the aliases file for majordomo stuff then If I do not find nothing go to mailman and see if list is in mailman. I really do not want to do different domains if at all possible. I should be able to use the same domain. All using the most friendly mta's ever built sendmailgrin Best Regards, Frank Torres On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 12:25, Frank Torres wrote: Queston, I have been unsuccessful at getting mailman and majordomo to run on the same host. I am using sendmail and the mailman mm-handler. Mailman is working great its just that majordomo is not. I did put an 'A' in the mailer table for alias expansion but that does not seem to work completely. If some body has done this and can share this info that would be great. I have been scouring the web to no avail. I need to transition majordomo out but I can not do it abruptly. Best Regards, Frank __ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ __ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] how to create a mailinglist?
dear sir/madam, how do I create a mailinglist like the bet shemesh list? please let me know asap. thank you, alon frank. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Updating MM 2.1.2 - 2.1.5 stucks
update exits at this point, but the next time it is run, the error does not appear any more (- I have to run 'update' three times to get rid of all these errors). These errors always appear, when 'update' is run after MM 2.1.2 has been used. OK. You have done with update to 2.1.5. Don't go back to 2.1.2. I cannot use 2.1.5: It does not deliver any mails after giving me the following errors (around 20 times) at start time: --- # mailmanctl start Starting Mailman's master qrunner. # Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 147, in dequeue data = cPickle.load(fp) EOFError [...] # --- 2.1.2 at least still delivers mails. I'm helpless frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Help: MM 2.1.5 not working after failed update from 2.1.2
Hello list members, as written in a previous posting, the upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5 failed. When I nevertheless start MM 2.1.5, I get around 20 of the following errors: --- # mailmanctl start Starting Mailman's master qrunner. # Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 147, in dequeue data = cPickle.load(fp) EOFError [...] # --- Mailman does not seem to deliver any mails after that. When I then stop 2.1.5 and start 2.1.2, I get around a dozen of these errors: --- Jun 26 21:43:27 2004 (1204) lost data files for filebase: 1088195523.0786779+4c5e6189f5cc4ba967f1556ffb911c03c84d6174 --- and I have the impression, that some maillists do not deliver, whereas other deliver well. Can anybody give hints how to debug or even correct this problem or the one described in 'Updating MM 2.1.2 - 2.1.5 stucks' (http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg25414.html)? Thanks a lot in advance frank -- Frank Thommen, Informatik Support Gruppe, D-INFK, ETH Zuerich E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tel: +41-1-63 27208 (Mo-Do) Web: http://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Updating MM 2.1.2 - 2.1.5 stucks
Hi ...and here the process waits/loops forever (at least more then three hours...). I ^C-stopped the update several times, but it gets always stucked at the same list. Examin the locks directory if there are lock files remained before executing bin/update. Make sure you stop qrunner and SMTP and clear the locks directory before issuing 'bin/update -f'. Thanks. I did, but it didn't help. While updating I also get the following errors at some lists (not the same ones, where 'update' hangs): --- Updating mailing list: Updating the held requests database. - updating old private mbox file looks like you have a really recent CVS installation... you're either one brave soul, or you already ran me - updating old public mbox file - This list looks like it might have = b4 list templates around Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/bin/update, line 782, in ? errors = main() File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/bin/update, line 672, in main errors = errors + dolist(listname) File /usr/pack/mailman-2.1.5-inf/bin/update, line 357, in dolist os.rename(o_tmpl, n_tmpl) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory --- update exits at this point, but the next time it is run, the error does not appear any more (- I have to run 'update' three times to get rid of all these errors). These errors always appear, when 'update' is run after MM 2.1.2 has been used. Any other ideas or hints? frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Total personalized Mails
Hello, we try to use mailman for personalized mails. Every user get a mail for example Job Offers this week for your subscription. Every User should only get the jobs for his region and interest for example. The datas are in an external programm. If this programm called by system or http with the mailadress as argument, it returns the part of the mailtext for this user as text or html. But to use it, i need a possibility that mailman can call this programm via system() or http. Lyris have a possibilty to write in the mail somethink like that: [[httpget(http://www.bla.com/cgi-bin/myjobs?id=mailadress;]] We look for a way with mailman, because we want to use mailman features like bounce control with VERP, unsubscribe-Features from mailman and the power of mailman/exim for mail sending. My question: Is there any possibility to include text/html from an external programm in every mail ? If not, where will be the best way to implement this in mailman ? Frank -- Frank Simon ECCE TERRAM Internet Services GmbH Tel. 0441 / 500 120 Edewechter Landstr. 42 Fax. 0441 / 500 1229 D-26131 Oldenburg Ex Astris Scientia -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Total personalized Mails
Hi, Am 25.06.2004 um 11:31 schrieb Brad Knowles: At 11:15 AM +0200 2004-06-25, Frank Simon wrote: If not, where will be the best way to implement this in mailman ? Don't use mailman. It was not designed to be a complete customized mail-merge tool. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.018.htp for related information. The FAQ entry regarding more for Job Assignment and CRM systems. That isn`t was i want. I want only custimze the content more than i find in the FAQ. mailman sends mails in a personalize way (Name, Surname at Beginning, individual unsubscribe- and bounce notices using VERP). In this case i think, there should be a way to personalize the content too. Frank -- Frank Simon ECCE TERRAM Internet Services GmbH Tel. 0441 / 500 120 Edewechter Landstr. 42 Fax. 0441 / 500 1229 D-26131 Oldenburg Ex Astris Scientia -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Total personalized Mails
Hi, Why are you so unfriendly ? I only ask a question. There are some mailling software, with this features, other not. If mailman dont have it, no prob. Mailman is a good software, or we dont want to use it. In a technical way - if is a feature like VERP and individuel bounce managment, than this have technical implications - for example, that the mails dont send mails as a block. If there is a block sending, than you have no chance to implement individual mails. If this is the situation, its a very logic question to ask, is there a way to do individual content and if not, where the best point to start to programmed a addon. It could be, that my bad english is a reason, to send unfriendly mails, but i think you have no reason too. THis is a question from one developr to another. Or dont exist there a development community ? Or is it forbidden to programmed addons to mailman ? Or its impossible to get starting hints for programming addons ? Frank == Am 25.06.2004 um 11:51 schrieb Brad Knowles: At 11:38 AM +0200 2004-06-25, Frank Simon wrote: See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? req=showfile=faq03.018.htp for related information. The FAQ entry regarding more for Job Assignment and CRM systems. That isn`t was i want. I want only custimze the content more than i find in the FAQ. I understand. That's why I say that it's related, as opposed to just quoting the FAQ entry for you and letting you read the answer for yourself. mailman sends mails in a personalize way (Name, Surname at Beginning, individual unsubscribe- and bounce notices using VERP). In this case i think, there should be a way to personalize the content too. To the degree you want? No. I've known plenty of multi-million dollar businesses that have been built on the kind of tool you're looking for, and every one of them has found it necessary to create their own. The mail-merge problem is so different from the running of a mailing list that you simply cannot take existing tools and abuse them to work the way you want. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Frank Simon ECCE TERRAM Internet Services GmbH Tel. 0441 / 500 120 Edewechter Landstr. 42 Fax. 0441 / 500 1229 D-26131 Oldenburg Ex Astris Scientia -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Updating MM 2.1.2 - 2.1.5 stucks
Hello list members, while updating MM from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5, the process of updating gets stucked at one specific maillist. I added a 'print mlist' in 'def update_pending()' after 'for listname in Utils.list_names(): mlist = MailList.MailList(listname)' to know where it happens: # bin/update Upgrading from version 0x20102f0 to 0x20105f0 getting rid of old source files Updating mailing list: XXX [...updates all lists with one could not acquire lock message...] Updating Usenet watermarks - nothing to update here Updating Mailman 2.1.4 pending.pck database WARNING: Ignoring duplicate pending ID: 7544. [..warns for many more pending IDs..] mailing list list1 (locked) at 4b8300 mailing list list2 (locked) at 4bbdf0 ...and here the process waits/loops forever (at least more then three hours...). I ^C-stopped the update several times, but it gets always stucked at the same list. Two questions: * Any hints, what the problem could be and how it could be solved? (please be very specific if it comes to coding, I'm a Python dummy) * I've stopped our maillist system with 80 lists: Can I restart MM 2.1.2 for the time being after this partial update or will that finally corrupt my system? Thank you very much in advance for any hints. frank -- Frank Thommen, Informatik Support Gruppe, D-INFK, ETH Zuerich E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tel: +41-1-63 27208 (Mo-Do) Web: http://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spaces in Email Addresses
I had a similar problem just last week where I had an address with 2 @'s in it. Actually it was to addresses concatenated but whenever Mailman displayed the addy it was truncated at the second @. My final solution was to dump the config: # bin/config_list -o outfile listname then dump the userlist: # bin/list_members listname outfile2 Here you should munge up outfile2 so it's the proper format for re-insertion later. destroy the list (leaving archives in tact): # bin/rmlist listname recreate the list (the user and password here mean little because of the next step): # bin/newlist listname [EMAIL PROTECTED] write your old config over it: # bin/config_list -i outfile listname resubscribe your members silently: # bin/add_members -r outfile2 -w n -a n Of course you'll have to deal with your digest vs. regular subscribers on your own. Most of my lists are either announce-only or low-traffic so all my members are regular. Hope this helps! (And I hope there's a better way than all that, but it works in a pinch) -Frank On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Jonathan Garton wrote: # I have a problem with spaces in my lists email names. Awhile back I mass # subscribed a list of email and real names that was exported from another # list manager program. The format of export was [EMAIL PROTECTED] realname. # It added these entries to Mailman with the space and realname as the # email address. However, from the # admin pages, I can't unsubscribe these names, as apparently Mailman # doesn't see them as being subscribed. # # I have tried entering the email only, and the email and name in quotes, # and both return errors from Mailman saying I can't unsubscribe # nonmemebers. # # Is there another way I can dump these accounts? # # Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] qmail-to-mailman.py is out of date (patch)
This diff should fix it. I know zero about python, but when I run 'newlist' (Mailman 2.1.3) it gives a list of 10 email aliases for you to create. This looked like the right spot to put them. It works or me. -Frank --- qmail-to-mailman.py.old 2003-12-10 18:13:25.0 -0800 +++ qmail-to-mailman.py 2003-12-10 18:15:17.0 -0800 @@ -77,10 +77,13 @@ type = post types = ((-admin$, bounces), (-bounces$, bounces), + (-confirm$, confirm), (-join$, join), (-leave$, leave), (-owner$, owner), - (-request$, request)) + (-request$, request), + (-subscribe$, subscribe), + (-unsubscribe$, unsubscribe)) for i in types: if re.search(i[0],local): -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Recommendation for Mailman hosting company needed
Hello all! I'm new to the list, from what I can tell, Mailman has the features I'd like to use in setting up a mailing list for my local congregation - specifically, the topic categories feature. I'm thinking it probably makes most sense right now just to go to a hosting company until I'm sure that the list is going to be useful and people will participate (I'm pretty sure they will). Any recommendations for a good hosting company that knows what they're doing? I'd like to have web pages set up so users can post (and more specifically, select topics via radio buttons rather than using a tag in the subject line). I'm guessing this might be how topics are implemented, but I haven't been able to find where that feature is documented - any pointers? Can you have sub-topics? My list users are likely to not be very technical, so I'm hoping to make things as painless as possible. I would like to avoid giving any business to companies who knowingly provide their services to commercial spammers if at all possible. I don't know if this is really pratical, but if I can avoid it, I'd like to, I think of it as doing my part to eliminate spam. tia for your help, Bearcat - Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding a second list admin
Exactly. It worked just as documented. So how do I go about adding a new list admin, or replacing the current admin? Just adding the new name doesn't seem to be useful because there doesn't seem to be a way to notify them of their password. Unless I'm missing something (probably glaringly) obvious, it *should* send an email when someone is added, not just at list creation time. As it happens I could recreate this list, so there is an easy work around, but I'm puzzled as to why it allows the addition of new administrators when apparently there is no way to let them administer. That's why I tried config_list -o [edit to add new admin] config_list -i thinking that this was a bit like making a new list. I also made sure that the new admin was already a valid subscriber and tried using their list password but this didn't work. Apparently list users and admin passwords are not coupled even if they have the same email addresses (probably a good thing). Clearly, people do inherit lists and doubtlessly change admins. I did RTFM and the Archives but drew a blank - but there must be a way... Mailman version 2.0.11 (Debian). TIA -- Frank Middleton John DeCarlo wrote: Frank, Are you having a problem? You quoted text that says when a list is created it send a message to the list owner, so the list owner knows the list was created and can start working on it. Then you say you added another list owner but got no message. That sounds exactly correct - no new list was created. Hope this helps. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Adding a second list admin
Using Mailman version 2.0.11 (Debian) From The Manual: When the list was created and you were assigned ownership of the list you should have received an automatically-generated message... but it doesn't say how to add to or replace the list owner. I tried simply adding a new owner, but that didn't trigger an email. config_list -o followed by config_list -i didn't do it either. The archives appear to have nothing to say on this topic. Posts to the list make it to the putative new owner, so presumably it's not a system problem. Any insights would be much appreciated! Regards -- Frank Middleton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Default action for anti-spam filter catched mails?
Hi, several possibilities to get rid of held messages (javascripts, cronjobs, procmail solutions etc.) have been proposed on this list and of the FAQs. However I cannot find any solution, that allows me to define a default action (accept/hold/reject/discard) for mails held by the anti-spam filters (bounce_matching_headers) as this is e.g. possible for the sender filters (generic_nonmember_action). Has anybody a patch for mailman 2.1.2, that allows to define such an action on a list by list basis via the web interface (if possible)? That would allow us to immediately delete e.g. all mails tagged by SpamAssassin (most of our list admins want to do that) w/o any additional activity. Thanks a lot for any help frank ** Problems, questions, feedback? Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- Frank Thommen, Informatik Support Gruppe, D-INFK, ETH Zuerich E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tel: +41-1-63 27208 (Mo-Do) Web: http://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
Jon, Thank you for the reply. I just realized by going through this exercise that I didn't have the aliases for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to test and this was why it was coming straight to me (I'm the garbage collector). Bad Frank. In other words read #2 below for aliases for Sendmail (http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp) virtual domains. I put in the above alias pair and now things are going wrong, but at least I'm getting some messages. Mail log: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group mailman, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group daemon. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mailman, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'. 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 OK. No major problem (I hope). Ran the configure with the above option Went to /usr/local/ and changed mailman to the daemon group id (see install instructions for those of you who may wondering where that came from) - also see check_param up next. Did the make install cd /usr/local/mailman/bin ./check_param -f (per install instructions) Oops 1574 errors ./check_param -f (per install instructions) No problems found Reran the test to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and surprise, surprise it worked. Showing me the detail and the additional debugging techniques helped me out tremendously. I really appreciate it. Once I was able to get error message, I could track down the rest. You stare at the problem too long and your brain freezes (or at least turns to the consistency of slush in my case). Thanks, Frank BTW, I appreciate the compliment about the detail in the problem ticket. I hate people not giving me enough information and then expect me to divine an answer (amateurs). I stated that I followed the faq page and I should give out the results of exactly what I did. Unfortunately, I missed the part about checking Sendmail for virtual domains (trying to work against a deadline isn't be an excuse just a fact). Again thanks. My problem was that I was seeing the forwarding to me (I'm also on the list) and I thought it was doing the forwarding and it was doing default routing. Now I have to go and setup all of the other missing aliases. -Original Message- From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:12 PM To: Frank L. Parks Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members Wow! I think that is the best problem ticket I've ever seen for mailman. You checked cron, so you are not running qrunner out of cron. You *are* running Mailmanctl which starts up the qrunners. The aliases should be taking the incoming mail and handing them off to cgi's that either handle the incoming mail or stuff it into a queue (to be handled by one of the qrunners). If you've checked the mail logs, and they show that they delivered mail to the lists (and handed it off to the cgi post), but the mail is not showing up in the queues, then it sounds like there is a problem with sendmail executing the post cgi. Try this... - turn off the Mailman daemon: mailmanctl stop - send a message to one of your mailman lists: echo i'm gumby dammit |mail -s test from gumby [EMAIL PROTECTED] - look in the Sendmail logs to see that it was accepted (one entry) and delivered (another entry): === tail /var/log/maillog === Sep 18 22:58:36 Anncons4 sendmail[3241]: h8J2wahH003241: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30046, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (h8J2wam8003243 Message accepted for delivery) === Sep 18 22:58:36 Anncons4 sendmail[3244]: h8J2wam8003243: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post test, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30599, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent == - then examine the aliases file and make sure the alias for the list looks like: test:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post test - Now look in the queue files: cd /var/mailman/qfiles/in ls 1063940316.823126+7e222a98096d06bd97f15e251156679fdb034db8.db 1063940316.823126+7e222a98096d06bd97f15e251156679fdb034db8.msg ### ### The *.msg file should contain text of your message### If that much is working, then your aliases are properly setup and working with Sendmail. The Mailman version 2.1 cgi post is working as well and placing messages into the inbound Mailman queue for processing. If you are getting messages into the inbound queue, the next step is to startup Mailman: mailmanctl start Then check the queues to make sure that they have been processed by qrunner. The logs should show any errors or warnings at this point. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 17:25, Frank L. Parks wrote: Version of Mailman: 2.1.2
[Mailman-Users] No mail going out to lists members
Version of Mailman: 2.1.2 Installed from source Version of OS: SuSE 8.0 MTA: Sendmail I have used http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp as guide in trying to track down my problem, but it seems to be a mystery. 0. Ran check_perms - no problem 1. Checked out grep for cron and mailmanctl no problem 2. Check aliases as written in faq - problem wrapper came back to majordomo. Substituted mailman for wrapper and all of the aliases appeared and pointed to the proper place. 3. Checked for Smrsh - no smrsh 4. Interface. No problem currently running production mail server. 5. qrunner does not appear to be a problem. Checked the qrunner log and there are commands in it for ArchRunner, CommandRunner, BounceRunner, IncomingRunner, VirginRunner, NewsRunner, and OutgoingRunner 6. Locks - Checked out and running process matched 7. Logs - The mail log looks good. It shows the incoming from me and to the list. Started checking Mailman logs: error - empty smtp-failure - doesn't exist smtp - I don't believe looks right. There are messages when I set up the list, but none from when I sent in the test message vette - doesn't exist config - doesn't exist post - doesn't exist qrunner - as I stated earlier, no visible problems. No locking problems, etc. 8. Qfiles - all directories are empty What other information do I need to provide? I'm able to add users, modify the different list configuration files, etc. through the web interface. I can even upload batch mass subscriptions and get the responses back. The one primary thing that I've noticed is that it returns the email to the list back to me without the [x-list] on the front. No error message - nothing. Hopefully, someone can help find the forest for the trees. Thanks, Frank -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman bounce option
Hi; A useful option for excessive bounces would be Do nothing and notify me. Just a thought. Frank Baillie -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Cannot install Mailman 2.1: bin/update fails (Solaris 9, Python 2.2.2)
Hi,
I don't succeed in installing Mailman 2.1. 'make install' fails with the following
messages:
# make install
[...]
Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman//Mailman/versions.py ...
bin/update: downgrade is detected), nothing will be done.^J^J-h/--help^J
Print this text and exit.^J^JUse this script to help you update to the latest release
of Mailman from^Jsome previous version. It knows about versions back to 1.0b4
(?).^J: not found
bin/update: Perform all necessary upgrades.^J^JUsage: %(PROGRAM)s
[options]^J^JOptions:^J-f/--force^JForce running the upgrade procedures.
Normally, if the version number^Jof the installed Mailman matches the current
version number (or a^J: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: import: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: from: not found
bin/update: FRESH: not found
bin/update: NOTFRESH: not found
bin/update: syntax error at line 58: `(' unexpected
make: *** [update] Error 2
#
I tried with Mailman 2.1 tarballs from list.org and from sourceforge. For 'make' I
used solaris make and gnu make (3.80). Python is a freshly installed Python 2.2.2.
Compiler is gcc 2.95.3. There is no Mailman installed on the system yet.
It seems to me, that there might be a Python syntax error in bin/update, but since I
don't know Python, I'm not sure about it.
Any hints, where the problem could come from or where I could start to look for a
solution?
Thanks in advance
Frank Thommen
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[Mailman-Users] failure to exec script...
hello! Although there are some threads in the mail archive to this problem, i think this one is slightly different so i decided to ask here... I'm getting the following error: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Transcript of session follows - Failure to exec script. WANTED gid d, GOT gid d. (Reconfigure to take d?) 554 |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test... unknown mailer error 2 Unlike the other posters before, there's a gid of d mentioned, where a number should be in place... Then, mailman has been installed correctly with its own uid and gid: uid=(mailman) gid=(mailman) When executing the often mentioned check_perms as user mailman, it says that there are no problems found. mail:~ $ id uid=(mailman) gid=(mailman) mail:~ $ pwd /home/mailman mail:~ $ ls -laF mail total 56 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 Oct 10 15:21 ./ drwxrwsr-x 18 mailman mailman 512 Oct 10 15:51 ../ -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman mailman25904 Oct 10 15:21 wrapper* mail:~ $ Any hints on that? I really wanted to get rid of majordomo :-) With kind regards, Frank Altpeter -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] problem compiling mailman
Hello, i just tried to install mailman to finally replace majordomo, but it didn't work as expected. I fist installed python successfully: mail:~ # python Python 2.2.2b1 (#1, Oct 10 2002, 13:39:17) [GCC 2.7.2.1] on sunos5 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. After proceeding as listed in the install instructions on the web site, i've created username and group 'mailman' and started to configure mailman as user 'mailman'. The output of the configure works fine, until that point: mail:/usr/src/mailman-2.0.13 $ ./configure [...] checking for --with-username... mailman checking for mailman UID... checking for --with-groupname... mailman checking for mailman GID... checking permissions on /home/mailman... okay checking for mail wrapper GID... 1 checking for CGI wrapper GID... 60001 checking for CGI extensions... no Traceback (most recent call last): File conftest.py, line 2, in ? from socket import * File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/socket.py, line 41, in ? from _socket import * ImportError: No module named _socket This happens on SunOS mail 5.5 Generic_103093-26 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-1 (And yes i know that this is a little bit old :-) Since this is the first time i'm using python, i'm unable to find out what this error means and how to solve it. Any hints? With kind regards, Frank Altpeter P.S. please include me in reply since i'm not subscribed to this list. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Lists mailaddress
Is it possible to change the mailadress of my list? I am runnning mailman on a local machine with some sick adress, but it is to be used with a .com domain with email forwarding. I want mailman to report the adress [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Is this possible? Regards, Frank Olaf Sem-Jacobsen
[Mailman-Users] An other whish for umbrella lists
Hi, My problem with umbrella lists - besides those mentioned in previous postings - is, that all prefixes of the chained lists are prepended to the mail subject. Normally our umbrella lists are lists composed of lists which are used by themselves, too. Every list (also the umbrella list) has it's own prefix. Sending to the umbrella lists gives me subjects like: Subject: [umbrella][sublistN] some topic. Instead, I want Subject: [umbrella] some topic for all postings to the umbrella list and Subject: [sublistN] some other topic for posting to the specific sublists. I.e.: Mailman should suppress printing of the list prefix if the mail comes from some other (local!) list or from a defined list senders (similar to the acceptable_aliases setting). frank ** Problems, questions, feedback? Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- Frank Thommen, IT Support Group D-INFK, ETH Zuerich Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phone: +41-1-63 27208 (Mon-Thu) Web: http://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] tremendous horror!
I have been running a list for some time now, and recently seemingly random subscription confirmations are being sent to people on the list. Some people are reporting recieving over a dozen confirmations a day (you know, the Confirm x)! Does anyone know what could be causing this, because it is really annoying the heck out of the people on my list! Thanks! Adam -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Errors with Mailman 2.1 - Sendmail Problem
Hi, I get following error in the error log of mailman: May 05 09:51:49 2002 (27895) Uncaught runner exception: global name 'recips' is not defined May 05 09:51:49 2002 (27895) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 103, in __oneloop self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 153, in __onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 57, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 131, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 320, in bulkdeliverfor r in recips: NameError: global name 'recips' is not defined Has anyone an idea - what could be wrong? Mailman doesn't send any mails out and all the mails are in the shunt-directory. Sendmail log says: unknown user I use Suse Linux 7.0 with Sendmail. Another problem is that Mailman doesn't write anything to the aliases and virtuser-files, doing this manually would be very complicated. Is there a solution? Frank j)fju,z»j)b b²ÓYK ®Êr¶'¢¸!¶Úþf¢è®æj)fjåËbú?¨¥©î±êì1¨¥©Åm¶ÿà )ÊØhàýÈn)ÿ}ª°jr
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
Hi, Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 2: /var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test. Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 99. (Reconfigure to take 99?) You probaly run into the following error described in the 'README.INSTALL' of Mailman: Problem: I send mail to the list, and get back mail saying, unknown mailer error. Solution: The likely problem is that you are using the wrong GID or UID for mail. Check your syslog. If you see, for example, a line like: Attempt to exec script with invalid gid 51, expected 99 You need to reinstall Mailman, and specify $MAIL_GID to be 51, as described in the installation instructions. see notes on Postfix below, as by default it will create these problems on installation. frank -- Frank Thommen, Informatik Support Gruppe, D-INFK, ETH Zuerich E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tel: +41-1-63 27208 (Mo-Do) Web: http://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] wrong gid
Hi Lito, 1. when confirming I received this error message. What should i do? - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/export/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test (reason: 2) (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Transcript of session follows - Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 1, GOT gid 2001. (Reconfigure to take 2001?) 554 5.3.0 |/export/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test... unknown mailer error 2 From Mailmans README.INSTALL: Problem: I send mail to the list, and get back mail saying, unknown mailer error. Solution: The likely problem is that you are using the wrong GID or UID for mail. Check your syslog. If you see, for example, a line like: Attempt to exec script with invalid gid 51, expected 99 You need to reinstall Mailman, and specify $MAIL_GID to be 51, as described in the installation instructions. see notes on Postfix below, as by default it will create these problems on installation. 2. my mailman is running on another machine named lists.xyz.com running its own copy of http, aside from my real http server. How will I configure all mailman transactions to point to lists.xyz.com and not to xyz.com, as you can see the above email address is xyz.com and not lists.xyz.com., even the senders address is xyz.com. This should be mainly a question of configuring your MTA. There's currently a discussion about virtual domains in this mailing list, which might help you. frank -- Frank Thommen, IT Support Group, D-INFK, ETH Zuerich E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tel: +41-1-63 27208 (Mo-Do) Web: http://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Webserver access problems (Permission denied on config.db)
Hi, I have problems with access permissions from the webserver to the mailman list database: admin(24095): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/MLM/lists/mytestlist_1/config.db' The mailman directory is NFS shared (rw) to the webserver (apache 1.3.11, Solaris 2.6.1). The newlist script creates all files with ownership mailman:mailman. Most of them are world-readable, but not the config.db file, which has permissions 660. Therefore it is not readable by the httpd (which runs as httpd:httpd) and the *whole* mailman-webinterface breakes. Is there a solution to this problem which does *not* require to change access permissions of all lists files manually after each newlist? I am grateful for every hint. frank -- Frank Thommen, IT Support Group, D-INFK, ETH Zuerich E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tel: +41-1-63 27208 (Mo-Do) Web: http://www.isg.inf.ethz.ch -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Is this possible?
We have Mailman installed on a Mandrake Linux 8.1. We have been testing internally on our LAN as a local mailing list and it works as advertised. Now, here comes the really strange question. Our office is in a very remote area and uses solar power as its sole source of electricity. For that reason, 24/7 computer operation and static IP addresses are not possible. We have the usual hosted web and mail services. The email client used here is capable of redirecting mail to a specific address (ie., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to a local address such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] My question is can anyone tell me if this approach will work, or if there is a better way?? TIA! -- Robin Lynn Frank Director of Operations Paradigm-Omega, LLC Current Linux kernel 2.4.8-26mdk uptime: 1 hour 0 minutes. (This computer runs on solar power. Do not look for long uptimes.) www.paradigm-omega.com * www.paradigm-omega.net -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Switching from majordomo to Mailman
Hi! I'd like to switch our mailinglist manager from majordomo to Mailman. Since there are some lists being transitioned and webpages that say that people can subscribe to lists by sending `subscribe listname' mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd like to know whether there's a compatibilty interface, so that it would be sufficient to adjust an alias like `majordomo: |mailman-wrapper majordomo-compat'. -frank -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Switching from majordomo to Mailman
Hi! Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ashley That's specific to each list: list[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ashley Send a message with the word 'help' as subject. Not with majordomo. With majordomo, general information can be retrieved from a general address. Ashley You were asking for compatibility against Mailman. So my Ashley answers have been geared towards that, not Majordomo. I'm sorry, if I expressed it incorrectly. Of course, I'm not looking for Mailman compatibilty within Mailman. ;-) I'm transitioning from majordomo to Mailman. So, I'm looking for majordomo compatibility. -frank -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Adding a search feature to archives
I found Mailman on Freshmeat and it looks great. I am renovating the PushToTest.com site (home of the Load open-source project) and nead a mail list manager. I'd like to have a couple of features that I didn't specifically see in the Mailman documentation: 1) Search. While the archive feature looks great, I would also like to add a search function. I'm thinking of a Search form wheree users type in keywords and a search engine scans an index built on the archive. What are folks using to do this with Mailman? 2) Subscription from a db application. Is there an API to mailman where I could programatically add a user to a list? My Web site has a registration page that asks 10 questions of new users. I'd like to offer to automatically subscribe a new user to a list. What are folks doing to make this happen? By the way, the Web site uses Zope. Thanks, in advance for your answer. -Frank
RE: [Mailman-Users] MySQL?
Title: RE: [Mailman-Users] MySQL? you could consider writing a cronned script (perl/ python/ whatever can access mysql) that gets the e-mails out of the database (all of them), saves them in a temp-file and which uses the remove_member and add_member mailman (python) scripts to first remove (all) and then add (all) the users? you could make it (and your database design) even more complex by using flags in your table to mark entries as 'to be added' and 'to be removed', have the script interpret those flags and clear them (+ remove removed entries) from the table. but i'd stick to the simpler solution ;-) frank -Original Message- From: Michael Lampman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/19/01 8:51 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] MySQL? I have a large mailing list of about 500. Concurrently there is a maintained MySQL database that includes a column with these email addresses. Would there be any possibility of getting mailman to draw the list from MySQL thus making updates automatic? Michael -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] subscribe box without password?
Title: RE: [Mailman-Users] subscribe box without password? for a customer of ours we wrote a small application (in vbscript/ asp, as the customer is on an NT-box for now) to present the user with a subscription-form (asking for e-mail-address and some personal data) of our own (so we by-pass the mailman subscription interface entirely). all input is stored in a database (for crm-purposes) and the e-mail-address is added to a simple text-file (maillistname_add or maillistname_remove) which is on a samba-share on the linux-server on which mailman resides (but you could just as well ftp those files over between the two servers on a regular basis). the text-file is processed by a (cronned) shellscript that uses the add_members and remove_members mailman-commands to perform the actual subscription.. i'm sure there are easier ways, but this proved to be very flexible and extensible, without us having to change mailman's code. (we previously even had the asp repost the e-mail-address to one of the pages inside the mailman administrative interface, but that did not prove to flexible .. ;-) good luck! frank -Original Message- From: G.W. van Mourik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: maandag 17 september 2001 16:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] subscribe box without password? Hi there, Thanks for the great Mailman program. I intend to use it at as a announce list on a website. What I want is that people fill in their e-mail address in a box that is integrated in the site and just have to press a button. Is it possible to get around the two enter your password boxes? If so, would somebody be so kind to tell me? Thanks a lot! cheers, GW -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Windo$ OUTLOOK and pipermail threading
Hi all, there've been a mail already on the list, but it seems that nobody was able to find a solution so far. If you use Microsoft as a MUA mail which getting archived by `pipermail won't be threaded correctly. I.e. if you reply on a mail sent with 'help' of OUTLOOK a new thread will be created. Does anyone have a solution for this. (I'm running mailman-2.0.2; python 1.5.3, sendmail 8.8.6) Thanks in advance for any hints. Bye Frank Heckes -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
