Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
Hi, This problem is now solved, I think... Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (7.4.2008 17:55): SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is a setting that affects all SMTP delivery. It is not a list setting. Setting it in mm_cfg.py and restarting Mailman is all that is required. Ok, that's good to know for sure! Why do you think it isn't effective? After restarting Mailman I still got Too many recipients errors in the Sendmail log (maillog). Now I checked again, and there are still Too many recipients errors, but when I check later entries, I find out that the Hotmail emails have finally been sent. I didn't do any systematic checking, but on the basis of a small sample, it seems that everything works OK!! Note that if you mis spell SMTP_MAX_RCPTS in your mm_cfg.py setting, it won't work and there will be no complaint. That sure is easy to misspell - btw, misspell is one word, not two. :-D Hank van Cleef ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (7.4.2008 18:42): I think you will have to set the limit lower than 9. My list runs with SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 5 Thanks Hank, We will let it be 9 now for a while - so far the list admins haven't complained. :-) If there will be problems again, I will lower the value, as you suggested. I'm glad I found this mailing list, it already proved helpful. Thanks all! - Jussi -- Jussi Hirvi * Green Spot Topeliuksenkatu 15 C * 00250 Helsinki * Finland Tel. fax +358 9 493 981 * Mobile +358 40 771 2098 (only sms) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.greenspot.fi -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
On 4/8/08 5:20 AM, Jussi Hirvi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This problem is now solved, I think... Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (7.4.2008 17:55): SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is a setting that affects all SMTP delivery. It is not a list setting. Setting it in mm_cfg.py and restarting Mailman is all that is required. Ok, that's good to know for sure! Why do you think it isn't effective? After restarting Mailman I still got Too many recipients errors in the Sendmail log (maillog). Now I checked again, and there are still Too many recipients errors, but when I check later entries, I find out that the Hotmail emails have finally been sent. The way you phrased that makes it sound like outgoing messages were merely being deferred for the too many recipients error and not bounced. If that's true, I hope you realize that changing the setting in Mailman only affects messages given to sendmail after you made the change. Anything already in sendmail's outgoing queue from before you made the change is not affected by the change as Mailman is no further involvement with the message at that point. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
Larry Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (8.4.2008 14:35): The way you phrased that makes it sound like outgoing messages were merely being deferred for the too many recipients error and not bounced. Yes, exactly so. If that's true, I hope you realize that changing the setting in Mailman only affects messages given to sendmail after you made the change. Anything already in sendmail's outgoing queue from before you made the change is not affected by the change as Mailman is no further involvement with the message at that point. Yes, I realize that. - Jussi -- Jussi Hirvi * Green Spot Topeliuksenkatu 15 C * 00250 Helsinki * Finland Tel. fax +358 9 493 981 * Mobile +358 40 771 2098 (only sms) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.greenspot.fi -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
Hi, list, The problem I'm trying to solve is that Hotmail (and probably msn.com) do not accept our Mailman emails - this seems to be a new phenomenon. The error code is too many recipients. From other sources I assume that Hotmail now accept sonly max 9 recipients per one request, while Mailman's default maximum is 500. I try to solve this by adding SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 9 to my mm_cfg.py. After Mailman restart, this seems to have no effect on existing lists - like I expected. Apparently I should use withlist - but how? BTW, this is my first posting to the list. - Jussi -- Jussi Hirvi * Green Spot Topeliuksenkatu 15 C * 00250 Helsinki * Finland Tel. fax +358 9 493 981 * Mobile +358 40 771 2098 (only sms) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.greenspot.fi -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
Jussi Hirvi wrote: I try to solve this by adding SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 9 to my mm_cfg.py. After Mailman restart, this seems to have no effect on existing lists - like I expected. SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is a setting that affects all SMTP delivery. It is not a list setting. Setting it in mm_cfg.py and restarting Mailman is all that is required. Why do you think it isn't effective? Note that if you mis spell SMTP_MAX_RCPTS in your mm_cfg.py setting, it won't work and there will be no complaint. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
The esteemed Jussi Hirvi has said: Hi, list, The problem I'm trying to solve is that Hotmail (and probably msn.com) do not accept our Mailman emails - this seems to be a new phenomenon. The error code is too many recipients. From other sources I assume that Hotmail now accept sonly max 9 recipients per one request, while Mailman's default maximum is 500. I try to solve this by adding SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 9 to my mm_cfg.py. After Mailman restart, this seems to have no effect on existing lists - like I expected. I think you will have to set the limit lower than 9. My list runs with SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 5 It has been a couple of years since I experimented with this, and the problem I was dealing with was that verizon.net would either accept mails immediately or defer them until the MTA expired them. With a limit of 5 recipients, I get good delivery to all of the big mail sites except yahoo.com. They will defer even single-recipient list priority mails during prime time, but deliver them within 24 hours. Read your MTA logs in addition to reading the bounce messages. I have had problems where the bounce message said one thing but the MTA log said something quite different. Hank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
