Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
Speaking of command-line utilities for mailman, this has me thinking of a feature that I may be missing. We have Mailman listserves with dozens of subscribers, and while my admins use the web interface to work with the lists, there doesn't seem to be a way (other than by command line) to produce a list of ALL subscribers to a list. As you know, when your list reaches a certain threshold, it begins grouping the subscribers by letter of the alphabet. Is there a way to see ALL subscribers via the web admin interface? Thanks for any help. --michael On 8/10/05, Steve Rifkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, yes, having a command-line-access to the server would be the only way for the site admin to have a complete set of lists (advertised and non-advertised.) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
On Aug 12, 2005, at 03:08, Michael Regoli wrote: As you know, when your list reaches a certain threshold, it begins grouping the subscribers by letter of the alphabet. Is there a way to see ALL subscribers via the web admin interface? You can set DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE to a large number (or set admin_member_chunksize using withlist or configlist to just change it for certain lists). This can have performance problems building/ downloading very large pages. You can also use a script to drive the web interface to collect all of the chunks and build it into a complete subscriber list. An example of this technique is available at http://starship.python.net/ crew/jwt/mailman/index.html#throughtheweb -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
At 6:35 PM -0400 2005-08-09, Steve Rifkin wrote: Even to the site admins? Was it always like that? So far as I know, yes. The problem is that there is no private authenticated admin page. Anyone can go to the admin interface page, but you can't do anything from that page unless you've got the site or list admin password(s). Is there a reason why the design of Mailman doesn't allow for the web interface to display _all_ lists for a Mailman site admin only? I would think that would be a good feature to have, in that, if I wanted to configure lists remotely as the site admin (as opposed to a list admin), I'd want to see the names of all the lists, advertised or not. As site admin, you should have command-line access to the server, or at least be able to remember what private lists you've created. But you are right that this would be a nice feature. Please feel free to go to the SourceForge Mailman Request for Enhancement page at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103atid=350103 and file an RFE. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
As site admin, you should have command-line access to the server, or at least be able to remember what private lists you've created. Remember, it's not me being a list admin, but rather a site admin that's the issue. As a site admin, I wouldn't necessarily know all the many lists that our list admins would decide to make private. Actually, as a site-admin, I wouldn't necessarily know all the public lists too. I'd have to have a list available to me (we could potentially have dozens of lists made where the list admins would choose whether to advertise the list or not), and I was hoping I'd have that list available through a password-protected webpage, especially since there are other pages that require the site admin to log in within Mailman (specific list maintenance, etc.) But, yes, having a command-line-access to the server would be the only way for the site admin to have a complete set of lists (advertised and non-advertised.) But you are right that this would be a nice feature. Please feel free to go to the SourceForge Mailman Request for Enhancement page at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103atid=350103 and file an RFE. Brad, thanks for all the info. I appreciate it. Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
Cool. Thanks Matt, I'll have to try that out.
Steve
Matt wrote:
I wrote a nasty script to generate an HTML file that lists all the
lists.
I run it daily from cron because I didn't want to monkey around with a
setuid mailman CGI program.
Use your web server to restrict access to the generated HTML file as
appropriate.
Here's an example. Customize as required. Works for me; it might
work for you.
#!/usr/bin/perl
# Create a web page from the output of the Mailman list_lists command.
$cmd=/usr/share/mailman/bin/list_lists;
open LISTINFO, $cmd | or die cannot run $cmd: $!\n;
print '
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
html
head
titleMailing lists/title
style type=text/css
.shaded {background: #EE;}
/style
/head
body
h1Mailing lists/h1
table
';
$rownumber = 0;
$headerline = LISTINFO;
while (LISTINFO) {
chop;
($listname, $description) = split / - /;
$listname =~ s/^\s+//;
if ($rownumber % 2) {
$class = ;
} else {
$class = 'class=shaded';
}
$rownumber++;
$lc_listname = lc $listname;
print tr $class\n;
print tda href=\/mailman/listinfo/$lc_listname\$listname/a\n;
print td$description\n;
print tda href=\mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail list owner/a\n;
print /tr\n;
}
print /table;
# page footer
print '
/body
/html
';
--
Matt Emerson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
If I am the site Mailman admin for my Mailman site, using the web interface, how can I see the lists of all my site's lists, including the unadvertised lists? I find that if I go to the MM admin page for my site, it says, There currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists on mysite.jhu.edu. To visit the administrators configuration page for an unadvertised list, open a URL similar to this one, but with a '/' and the list name appended. However, there is at least one list on the site, but it is set not to 'advertise'. As the site admin, I can log into this specific unadvertised list from the web and make changes. But, I have to know ahead of time that this list is actually on our MM server. So, as site admin, how can I use the web interface to see the entire set of lists, advertised and unadvertised, on my MM server via the web, so that I know what lists I have to choose from? I thought I used to be able to do this on an old install of Mailman we used to have, but I can't seem to find any docs or FAQ entries that describe how to do it. (I know I can get the list of all MM mail lists at the command line, but if I'm working remotely via the web, I'd like not to have to log into the MM server machine at a command prompt and have to run the MM commands just to see all the lists on our server.) Thank in advance! Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
At 12:31 PM -0400 2005-08-09, Steve Rifkin wrote: If I am the site Mailman admin for my Mailman site, using the web interface, how can I see the lists of all my site's lists, including the unadvertised lists? Via the web interface? You don't. The web interface only shows the public lists. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can our MM site admin see unadvertised lists via web interface?
Even to the site admins? Was it always like that? I was chatting with another admin here today, and for some reason, we seem to remember the site admin being able to see all lists via the web interface... mind you, that's when we were running MM about 2-3 years ago, and we just might be remembering something else. (We haven't run MM for a while now but are restarting the service and are trying to catch up.) Is there a reason why the design of Mailman doesn't allow for the web interface to display _all_ lists for a Mailman site admin only? I would think that would be a good feature to have, in that, if I wanted to configure lists remotely as the site admin (as opposed to a list admin), I'd want to see the names of all the lists, advertised or not. Thanks for your reply. Steve Brad Knowles wrote: Via the web interface? You don't. The web interface only shows the public lists. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
