Re: [Mailman-Users] Re add members w/o confirming a good MUA
On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 06:24, marci and rex wrote: It may have.. ILl look when I get home... We do have it set up to require approval anyway ... I dont know if this is the same thing youre talking about... but we have to approve all subscriptions... The options on the stock mailman installation are 'Confirm', 'Require Approval' or 'Confirm and Approve'. You would want 'Require Approval' only. David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re add members w/o confirming a good MUA
RE: adding members without having them confirm? David said: You can also subscribe members in the List Administration web interface under Membership Management Mass Subscription. This is much easier for a non-techie. a different David ;) Hi d D ! ( grin ) ...Different person with the same problem hereWe tried that when we originally set up our new mailing list thinking we could copy/paste subscriber emails to our old mailing list into this field... all it did was send out invitations to subscribe..It didnt actually subscribe them...They still have to reply to the verify email and thats where we are having the problem... I am having trouble with our members either not getting the verification emails or probably having them dumped into spam filter files... We are dealing with a lot of elderly ( 70 +) porcelain artists who are artists and not computer geeks.. :-) and I have several who have resubscribed 4 or 5 times and are just not getting the idea of reply to the verify letter...and there are also some who manage to retrieve the letters or click on the webpage link in the email only to be told that it is an invalid verification code... ( I know these expire after 3 days... but these are ones that are giving the errors on the same day they are dated... ) Also, if anybody has some recommendations of good MUAs ( boy , I hope i used the right term here ) that will display Mailman properly with styled text, Im all ears... I personally run Eudora and it displays everything... but some of our listers are getting either scrubbed messages or every message as an attachment. I would love to be able to take advantage of colored text so if anyone has any suggestions I can pass along, Im all ears... Thanks , everybody marci PPIO.com Porcelain Painters International Online -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re add members w/o confirming a good MUA
On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 18:25, marci and rex wrote: RE: adding members without having them confirm? David said: You can also subscribe members in the List Administration web interface under Membership Management Mass Subscription. This is much easier for a non-techie. a different David ;) Hi d D ! ( grin ) ...Different person with the same problem hereWe tried that when we originally set up our new mailing list thinking we could copy/paste subscriber emails to our old mailing list into this field... all it did was send out invitations to subscribe..It didnt actually subscribe them...They still have to reply to the verify email and thats where we are having the problem... You have to set the option on the Mass Subscription page to 'Subscribe' not 'Invite' before you submit the list. Your list probably was set up to 'Invite' by default. I am having trouble with our members either not getting the verification emails or probably having them dumped into spam filter files... We are dealing with a lot of elderly ( 70 +) porcelain artists who are artists and not computer geeks.. :-) and I have several who have resubscribed 4 or 5 times and are just not getting the idea of reply to the verify letter...and there are also some who manage to retrieve the letters or click on the webpage link in the email only to be told that it is an invalid verification code... ( I know these expire after 3 days... but these are ones that are giving the errors on the same day they are dated... ) There isn't much you can do about user error except for subscribing their addresses yourself using the above info. It does work. Also, if anybody has some recommendations of good MUAs ( boy , I hope i used the right term here ) that will display Mailman properly with styled text, Im all ears... I personally run Eudora and it displays everything... but some of our listers are getting either scrubbed messages or every message as an attachment. I would love to be able to take advantage of colored text so if anyone has any suggestions I can pass along, Im all ears... If you are having MUA issues, it is best to just send out plain text... it is the only failsafe method. Thanks , everybody marci PPIO.com Porcelain Painters International Online David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re add members w/o confirming a good MUA
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:25:40 -0500 marci and rex wrote: RE: adding members without having them confirm? David said: You can also subscribe members in the List Administration web interface under Membership Management Mass Subscription. This is much easier for a non-techie. a different David ;) A few months ago, I started hosting the bogofilter mailing lists. They had been hosted elsewhere using qmail and ezmlm. Given subscriber lists, I was able to use mailman's add_members commands. With separate lists of regular and digest subscribers (and the corresponding '-r' and '-d' options) and the --welcome-msg=n option, I was able to subscribe everyone without any need for action by the individual subscribers. The use of MUA is much a matter of operating system used and individual preference. I've been using Sylpheed-Claws under Linux for the past year and like its GUI. I understand it's also available for Windoze. Regards, David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re add members w/o confirming a good MUA
On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 19:08, marci and rex wrote: I'm at the Mass subscription page now and I dont see anything like that .. what I show is this: send welcome messages...( no/yes options) The 'Subscribe' option should be just above the 'send welcome...' option. What version of Mailman are you running and on what operating system? David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re add members w/o confirming a good MUA
On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 20:24, David Relson wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:25:40 -0500 marci and rex wrote: RE: adding members without having them confirm? David said: You can also subscribe members in the List Administration web interface under Membership Management Mass Subscription. This is much easier for a non-techie. a different David ;) A few months ago, I started hosting the bogofilter mailing lists. They had been hosted elsewhere using qmail and ezmlm. Given subscriber lists, I was able to use mailman's add_members commands. With separate lists of regular and digest subscribers (and the corresponding '-r' and '-d' options) and the --welcome-msg=n option, I was able to subscribe everyone without any need for action by the individual subscribers. Yes. If you have shell access, this will definitely work but it doesn't sound like marci and rex have shell access. Or do they? David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re add members w/o confirming a good MUA
On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 22:02, marci and rex wrote: At 09:04 PM 8/19/2004, David Blomquist wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 19:08, marci and rex wrote: I'm at the Mass subscription page now and I dont see anything like that .. what I show is this: send welcome messages...( no/yes options) The 'Subscribe' option should be just above the 'send welcome...' option. Nope.. its not there... just the blue bar saying Mass Subscriptions and then the Send welcome ... Looks like the LFCHosting guys took it out... What version of Mailman are you running and on what operating system? 2.1.4 and we are using it from the LFCHosting website...I dont know what they are running.. So it looks like we're up the creek,then , huh. It would appear that way :( The admins at LFCHosting probably did this to prevent spammers from abusing their service, which is not a bad idea, but doesn't help your situation. The only other way to get around this that I know of is to choose 'Require approval' instead of 'Confirm' on the Privacy page. This will simply require you to approve the subscription requests on the 'pending moderator requests' page instead of the users confirming the requests. I would assume that your hosting service removed this option too, though. David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
