Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman
Anna, Thanks for the link it helped. To help anyone else that may have to problem. Here's the steps I took some are borrowed from the URL below: 1) tar-balled the mailman 1.x on server 'A' once it was offline. 2) copied/extracted it to server 'B' 3) re-configured mailman 1.x using the new $PREFIX on server 'B' - make;make install (only do this if you have not modified the mailman code, otherwise you MIGHT overwrite some of your changes - this gets all the Mailman/Cgi/* using the write path and fixes Default.py, and the various paths.py 4) use withlist in a shell script to update the archive paths in each config.db file under lists/ - if you follow the link below it links to examples of shell scripts you can use 5) NOW go to your mailman 2.x directory and do a configure with the $PREFIX the same as mailman 1.x you copied onto server 'B'. - make; make install - make install should update without a problem -- mine did And there you have... The one step under http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg11052.html which I disagreed with is recreating all the lists and then copying the config.db back over top of the new list. I'm not sure what was gained by that. I skipped that step and everything is working fine. From what I've seen looking through the code mailman does NOT as of 2.0.13 keep a central database of lists, so as I said I don't see what recreating all the lists buys you. Hope this helps -- Adam Brons Systems Engineer / Unix Support Group Office of Computing and Communications Services Old Dominion University - Norfolk, Virginia. USA DSA ID 7680A17E: 7E88 F9EC 0799 3260 49DA DB77 0327 D32B 7680 A17E On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 09:21:42AM -0700, Fong, Anna wrote: Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:21:42 -0700 From: Fong, Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Brons [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adam, Try this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg11052.html Hope this helps, Anna Anna Q. Fong, Webmaster California Data Exchange Center -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Brons Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman I'm looking for some advice, here's the situation: I have mailman 1.x installed on server 'A'. We're upgrading mailman to 2.x but we're also moving it to server 'B'. On server 'A' the install directory for mailman is /usr0/mailman. On server 'B' the install directory for mailman is going to be /usr1/mailman. Symlinking /usr0/mailman to /usr1/mailman on server 'B' is NOT an option. Would it be easier to just do a fresh install of mailman 2.x on server 'B' and manually migrate the lists from the old server following the steps in UPGRADING and fixing whatever else may arise. Or should I copy the installation on server 'A' to server 'B' go through and make all the changes where the path is wrong and then do a make install of mailman 2.x on top of mailman 1.x? Or is there some much easier way to do this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. -- Adam Brons Systems Engineer / Unix Support Group Office of Computing and Communications Services Old Dominion University - Norfolk, Virginia. USA DSA ID 7680A17E: 7E88 F9EC 0799 3260 49DA DB77 0327 D32B 7680 A17E -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman
You're welcome Adam. And Thank You for listing your steps to add to our collective knowledge. Regarding your question about recreating the lists, my situation was moving 1.x lists from an installation I owned to an existing 2.x installation (2.0.8) owned by someone else. It was not possible or practical to reconfigure the 2.x installation. (Basically, I had to go along with what the other guy was comfortable and willing to do to accommodate my move.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Brons Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 6:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman Anna, Thanks for the link it helped. To help anyone else that may have to problem. Here's the steps I took some are borrowed from the URL below: 1) tar-balled the mailman 1.x on server 'A' once it was offline. 2) copied/extracted it to server 'B' 3) re-configured mailman 1.x using the new $PREFIX on server 'B' - make;make install (only do this if you have not modified the mailman code, otherwise you MIGHT overwrite some of your changes - this gets all the Mailman/Cgi/* using the write path and fixes Default.py, and the various paths.py 4) use withlist in a shell script to update the archive paths in each config.db file under lists/ - if you follow the link below it links to examples of shell scripts you can use 5) NOW go to your mailman 2.x directory and do a configure with the $PREFIX the same as mailman 1.x you copied onto server 'B'. - make; make install - make install should update without a problem -- mine did And there you have... The one step under http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg11052.html which I disagreed with is recreating all the lists and then copying the config.db back over top of the new list. I'm not sure what was gained by that. I skipped that step and everything is working fine. From what I've seen looking through the code mailman does NOT as of 2.0.13 keep a central database of lists, so as I said I don't see what recreating all the lists buys you. Hope this helps -- Adam Brons Systems Engineer / Unix Support Group Office of Computing and Communications Services Old Dominion University - Norfolk, Virginia. USA DSA ID 7680A17E: 7E88 F9EC 0799 3260 49DA DB77 0327 D32B 7680 A17E On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 09:21:42AM -0700, Fong, Anna wrote: Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:21:42 -0700 From: Fong, Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Brons [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adam, Try this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg11052.html Hope this helps, Anna Anna Q. Fong, Webmaster California Data Exchange Center -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Brons Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman I'm looking for some advice, here's the situation: I have mailman 1.x installed on server 'A'. We're upgrading mailman to 2.x but we're also moving it to server 'B'. On server 'A' the install directory for mailman is /usr0/mailman. On server 'B' the install directory for mailman is going to be /usr1/mailman. Symlinking /usr0/mailman to /usr1/mailman on server 'B' is NOT an option. Would it be easier to just do a fresh install of mailman 2.x on server 'B' and manually migrate the lists from the old server following the steps in UPGRADING and fixing whatever else may arise. Or should I copy the installation on server 'A' to server 'B' go through and make all the changes where the path is wrong and then do a make install of mailman 2.x on top of mailman 1.x? Or is there some much easier way to do this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. -- Adam Brons Systems Engineer / Unix Support Group Office of Computing and Communications Services Old Dominion University - Norfolk, Virginia. USA DSA ID 7680A17E: 7E88 F9EC 0799 3260 49DA DB77 0327 D32B 7680 A17E -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman
Adam, Try this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg11052.html Hope this helps, Anna Anna Q. Fong, Webmaster California Data Exchange Center -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Brons Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new server and upgrading mailman I'm looking for some advice, here's the situation: I have mailman 1.x installed on server 'A'. We're upgrading mailman to 2.x but we're also moving it to server 'B'. On server 'A' the install directory for mailman is /usr0/mailman. On server 'B' the install directory for mailman is going to be /usr1/mailman. Symlinking /usr0/mailman to /usr1/mailman on server 'B' is NOT an option. Would it be easier to just do a fresh install of mailman 2.x on server 'B' and manually migrate the lists from the old server following the steps in UPGRADING and fixing whatever else may arise. Or should I copy the installation on server 'A' to server 'B' go through and make all the changes where the path is wrong and then do a make install of mailman 2.x on top of mailman 1.x? Or is there some much easier way to do this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. -- Adam Brons Systems Engineer / Unix Support Group Office of Computing and Communications Services Old Dominion University - Norfolk, Virginia. USA DSA ID 7680A17E: 7E88 F9EC 0799 3260 49DA DB77 0327 D32B 7680 A17E -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
