Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam of sorts
Quoting Dave Foran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The lists that are getting the bogus messages have new domain names, but spammers are sending spam to the lists using the old domain. And hence failing. The list name that I am tinkering with is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED], railnet.org and nshore.org are now virtual hosted on my system. When I moved my lists from my home machine (xcski.com) to a virtual private server (list.xcski.com), I used postfix's /etc/postfix/relocated to cause requests for the old list names to bounce with a message giving the new list names. Spammers never read those bounce messages, but real people might. You could use that to make sure if people are requesting the old list address that they get told of the new list address. Or if you just want the list to be available at both locations, I imagine you could just make your own entries in the aliases file (the main one, not the one mailman manages) for the old location. -- Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.xcski.com/ The ideals we uphold during a crisis define who we are. - Bruce Scheier http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0109.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam of sorts
Quoting Dave Foran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The lists that are getting the bogus messages have new domain names, but spammers are sending spam to the lists using the old domain. And hence failing. The list name that I am tinkering with is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED], railnet.org and nshore.org are now virtual hosted on my system. When I moved my lists from my home machine (xcski.com) to a virtual private server (list.xcski.com), I used postfix's /etc/postfix/relocated Hmm Wonder if an option like this is available in sendmail.. to cause requests for the old list names to bounce with a message giving the new list names. Spammers never read those bounce messages, but real people might. You could use that to make sure if people are requesting the old list address that they get told of the new list address. The users have the correct domain names, Tis the spammers still using the old name Or if you just want the list to be available at both locations, I imagine you could just make your own entries in the aliases file (the main one, not the one mailman manages) for the old location. Something tinker with.. Dave -- Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.xcski.com/ The ideals we uphold during a crisis define who we are. - Bruce Scheier http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0109.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dave%40hamnet.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam of sorts
Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I moved my lists from my home machine (xcski.com) to a virtual private server (list.xcski.com), I used postfix's /etc/postfix/relocated to cause requests for the old list names to bounce with a message giving the new list names. Spammers never read those bounce messages, but real people might. You could use that to make sure if people are requesting the old list address that they get told of the new list address. Or if you just want the list to be available at both locations, I imagine you could just make your own entries in the aliases file (the main one, not the one mailman manages) for the old location. I have moved a few lists from Majordomo to Mailman. The Mailman machine is a different machine that the Majordomo machine. So, [EMAIL PROTECTED] became [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I added an entry to the alias file on the Majordomo machine redirecting mail. Someone sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mail was received by Mailman but held for approval because the list name was not in the To: or Cc: lines. I had to change the require_explicit_destination parm from True to False to get around this. Once all of the posters use the new list address, I can remove the alias and change this parm back to True. -- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone:+1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam of sorts
Barry Finkel wrote: I have moved a few lists from Majordomo to Mailman. The Mailman machine is a different machine that the Majordomo machine. So, [EMAIL PROTECTED] became [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I added an entry to the alias file on the Majordomo machine redirecting mail. Someone sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mail was received by Mailman but held for approval because the list name was not in the To: or Cc: lines. I had to change the require_explicit_destination parm from True to False to get around this. Once all of the posters use the new list address, I can remove the alias and change this parm back to True. End original message. - I think a better choice would be to leave require_explicit_destination at True and to add the old list address to acceptable_aliases under Privacy Options- Recipient Filters. That way you still get the functionality of holding/rejecting/discarding those messages without the list address in the to: or cc: fields while still passing messages sent to the old address. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam of sorts
Dave Foran wrote: So, is this legal in the sense of Mailman on the General options page Example host_name (general): Host name this list prefers for email. Railnet.org To also add nshore.org so that both valid domain names are there. host_name (general): Host name this list prefers for email. Railnet.org, nshore.org I didn't see this answered in the other replies in this thread. No it is not legal. It needs to be a single host name which is the name which will be exposed in email addresses generated by mailman. I.e., Mailman will advertise the list posting address as [EMAIL PROTECTED], the request address as [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc, so it should be the single host name you prefer to use for the list. Mailman also sends certain owner notices to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it expects to receive those back as messages for the 'owner' which it resends to the actual owners and moderators. Thus, host_name must also be a host that the outgoing MTA knows how to route back to Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
