Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
I'd like to report that Dreamhost did respond to my request and has now installed a patch so that the list exclude function is now working for lists in the same domain. This is great. Now, folks don't receive duplicate messages when the same message is sent to more than one list on the domain. I've been waiting for the capability for so long. Dreamhost has been good for mailman lists. I am happy that I don't have to do everything myself. --Cris Brad Knowles wrote: At 12:53 AM -0400 9/4/08, Brian Carpenter wrote: It seems like you are going through a lot just to run one(?) list. You might want to check us out at http://emwd.com/mailman.html. We are one hosting company that is willing to answer your questions regarding the use of mailman without asking you to pay more. And I will add that EMWD seems to be the only Mailman hosting company I know of that actively participates on this list, which I think speaks well for them. I can't say anything more about them because I do not personally use their services, but they do have a good reputation in my book. -- Visit Tompkins County Ithaca Against the War, weblog for Tompkins County War resisters tompkinsagainstwar.org http://tompkinsagainstwar.org/ Subscribe to community event calendar with iCal, Lightning or Sunbird. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:53 AM -0400 9/4/08, Brian Carpenter wrote: It seems like you are going through a lot just to run one(?) list. You might want to check us out at http://emwd.com/mailman.html. We are one hosting company that is willing to answer your questions regarding the use of mailman without asking you to pay more. And I will add that EMWD seems to be the only Mailman hosting company I know of that actively participates on this list, which I think speaks well for them. You mean the only Mailman hosting company of significant size. I'm a purposely-small service provider that includes Mailman and Wikipedia in my website hosting. I specialize in artists and non- profits. (Demographic selected for their vast financial resources, ripe for the tapping... NOT! :-) You might discover there are a lot of lurkers on this list who are hosting in the broadest sense of the word. Jan Steinman 250.653.2024 Bytesmiths Artists' Services http://www.Bytesmiths.com/ Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
Jan Steinman wrote: And I will add that EMWD seems to be the only Mailman hosting company I know of that actively participates on this list, which I think speaks well for them. You mean the only Mailman hosting company of significant size. I did say ... that I know of ;-) I'm a purposely-small service provider that includes Mailman and Wikipedia in my website hosting. I specialize in artists and non-profits. (Demographic selected for their vast financial resources, ripe for the tapping... NOT! :-) You might discover there are a lot of lurkers on this list who are hosting in the broadest sense of the word. Indeed, I hope there are. And I hope more of them come out and identify themselves (as you have done here), because I honestly was only aware of the one company/group in this space which was actively participating in this mailing list. The more of you guys that come out and actively participate in the list, and try to help people resolve issues even if they're not your customers or potential customers for you, the better the overall community will be. And, hopefully, the more customers you will be able to draw to your respective services, in part because you'll have people like me who can stick their hand up and say things like: Yeah, I've heard of these guys before, they actively participate in the list, and they seem to be pretty good guys. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
Jan Steinman wrote: And I will add that EMWD seems to be the only Mailman hosting company I know of that actively participates on this list, which I think speaks well for them. You mean the only Mailman hosting company of significant size. I did say ... that I know of ;-) I'm a purposely-small service provider that includes Mailman and Wikipedia in my website hosting. I specialize in artists and non-profits. (Demographic selected for their vast financial resources, ripe for the tapping... NOT! :-) You might discover there are a lot of lurkers on this list who are hosting in the broadest sense of the word. That may be so but in general the hosting industry has taken a bad attitude (or just plain old indifference) of sorts towards mailman users, which we make it clear we do not participate in. Hence our active participation (at least sometimes) on this list in supporting and promoting mailman. Regards, Brian -- EMWD.com - 'Powered by Techies' Blog.emwd.com - Curious comments from a web hosting techie -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
Hi Jaione, Jaione Arrieta: Hi I have a mailing list, I´m the administrator that is I´m a user and have no idea of programming, and I used to have the same mailing list in mailman but with an older version and worked just fine and I was very happy with it but had to change servers and my hosting service upload the version available a month ago which is the version 2.1.9.cp2 and I´m having many problems with this version _postings take very long time to arrived if they do, because some postings arrive to some members and others to other members and some they don´t arrive to anybody even if they get to the archive, and if there is an important subject to discuss there´s no way to make it interesting cause many people don´t get the messages, and even if they send a message it doesn´t arrive to many people, an I need the mailing list to be fast an active as it was before and I´m having lot´s of complains... _all of the sudden all the memebers for example the m members get unsuscribe at the same time and I put them back and then all the members that start with p get unsuscribe at the same time and I don´t have time to check all the time all the members usually I have to do it two or three times a day I´m really not very happy with this version, is there a way to go back to an older version ? or what can I do to make it work just fine with no problems? I am sure others will have better ideas but it seems to me you may want to use a different provider which offers good mailman support so that you do not have to worry about underlying details - i.e. it is their responsibility to make mailman work as expected. If you check the archives, you will be able to find people on this list who offer such services. -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: If you check the archives, you will be able to find people on this list who offer such services. Also see http://wiki.list.org/x/Hg. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
Karen Windus wrote: Hi everyone, My name is Karen and I've just set up a Virtual Dedicated Linux server via Godaddy. I want to run Mailman for a litserv community that has decided to flee one of the many VT listservs they have so kindly hosted over the years. The list has gone down too many times and the feeling is we'd like a listserv under our own control. Hi Karen, Please don't hijack existing threads for unrelated topics. Compose a new mail rather than replying to an old one. Listserv(r) is a registered trademark. It refers to a specific software product which is not Mailman. Please do not use listserv to refer to Mailman or a Mailman list http://www.lsoft.com/corporate/trademark.asp. As far as your specific questions are concerned, can you access the Mailman admin web interface via a URL like http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/listname or maybe http://www.example.com/mailman/cgi-bin/admin/listname. If so, we can probably help you with questions regarding this web interface. For questions regarding the control panel interface, see http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9 and http://wiki.list.org/x/tIA9 for a discussion of our limitations in helping with control panels. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
Hi everyone, My name is Karen and I've just set up a Virtual Dedicated Linux server via Godaddy. I want to run Mailman for a litserv community that has decided to flee one of the many VT listservs they have so kindly hosted over the years. The list has gone down too many times and the feeling is we'd like a listserv under our own control. So, here's one of my first questions. Since I've never administrated a listserv before and don't have any experience with Mailman, is there anyone else on this list who is also using Godaddy's Virtual server hosting plan who can give me some pointers? I called GoDaddy yesterday and I was told that unless I pay for an Assisted Service Plan (which is expensive!), they don't offer support for Mailman. Even though one can enable it via their Simple Control Panel and set up a list via that control panel. However the list I set up only allowed me to name it thus far. I didn't see a place where I could add email addresses to start testing my first list with a few other people. And when I used Putty to SSH into my new server, I couldn't determine where Mailman's install directory was. Any ideas? A little bit of background on me...I'm a web developer and I've programmed in Python before. I'm familiar with PHP, MySQL, TCL, Javascript, etc. However, not a lot of Linux or SysAdmin experience aside from navigating the file structure and unpacking and archiving things. I'm a quick learner though and excited about learning Linux and Mailman. I can read manuals and can figure out what commands I need to issue on the cmd line once I figure out what I need to do configuration wise (if anything) with GoDaddy. If someone has written any documentation out there on GoDaddy's set up, Simple Control Panel (like should I just upgrade to Plex for $10 more a month?) and Mailman, aside from the scant info I found in their Help area (which all deals with the Plex control panael...not the Simple Control Panel), then I'd be grateful for a link or any advice at all. Thanks! Karen On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: If you check the archives, you will be able to find people on this list who offer such services. Also see http://wiki.list.org/x/Hg. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/kwindus%40gmail.com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
Hi everyone, My name is Karen and I've just set up a Virtual Dedicated Linux server via Godaddy. I want to run Mailman for a litserv community that has decided to flee one of the many VT listservs they have so kindly hosted over the years. The list has gone down too many times and the feeling is we'd like a listserv under our own control. So, here's one of my first questions. Since I've never administrated a listserv before and don't have any experience with Mailman, is there anyone else on this list who is also using Godaddy's Virtual server hosting plan who can give me some pointers? I called GoDaddy yesterday and I was told that unless I pay for an Assisted Service Plan (which is expensive!), they don't offer support for Mailman. Even though one can enable it via their Simple Control Panel and set up a list via that control panel. However the list I set up only allowed me to name it thus far. I didn't see a place where I could add email addresses to start testing my first list with a few other people. You would typically log into the list administration interface at http://yourdomain.com/mailman/admin/listname And when I used Putty to SSH into my new server, I couldn't determine where Mailman's install directory was. Any ideas? A little bit of background on me...I'm a web developer and I've programmed in Python before. I'm familiar with PHP, MySQL, TCL, Javascript, etc. However, not a lot of Linux or SysAdmin experience aside from navigating the file structure and unpacking and archiving things. Try using something like locate qrunner via the command line. I'm a quick learner though and excited about learning Linux and Mailman. I can read manuals and can figure out what commands I need to issue on the cmd line once I figure out what I need to do configuration wise (if anything) with GoDaddy. If someone has written any documentation out there on GoDaddy's set up, Simple Control Panel (like should I just upgrade to Plex for $10 more a month?) and Mailman, aside from the scant info I found in their Help area (which all deals with the Plex control panael...not the Simple Control Panel), then I'd be grateful for a link or any advice at all. This is a list that supports mailman, not one that tells you how to use the services of a host (Godaddy) who is not willing to support this wonderful software. It seems like you are going through a lot just to run one(?) list. You might want to check us out at http://emwd.com/mailman.html. We are one hosting company that is willing to answer your questions regarding the use of mailman without asking you to pay more. Regards, Brian -- EMWD.com - 'Powered by Techies' Blog.emwd.com - Curious comments from a web hosting techie -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
At 12:53 AM -0400 9/4/08, Brian Carpenter wrote: It seems like you are going through a lot just to run one(?) list. You might want to check us out at http://emwd.com/mailman.html. We are one hosting company that is willing to answer your questions regarding the use of mailman without asking you to pay more. And I will add that EMWD seems to be the only Mailman hosting company I know of that actively participates on this list, which I think speaks well for them. I can't say anything more about them because I do not personally use their services, but they do have a good reputation in my book. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mailman- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Clemings Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:04 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] many problems If I recall correctly, the default cPanel installation has a really tight limit on the number of messages that can be sent from your server in a given amount of time. Far too tight for a Mailman list of any size. I recall running into this myself once. I guess it's to protect you in case you have a PHP script or something that gets hijacked by a spammer. Unfortunately, I can't find the setting to change it, but your host (if competent) should be able to help. A default installation of cPanel doesn't limit the number of messages an account can send out per hour. This setting is set by the server admin via WHM. It can easily be changed by the hosting company. Since we fully support Mailman, we don't impose such limits on our clients, even though we run cpanel on our servers. Regards, Brian -- EMWD.com - 'Powered by Techies' Blog.emwd.com - Curious comments from a web hosting techie -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
