[MlMt] mailto: URL scheme

2014-04-23 Thread Pedro Lobo

Hi Guys,

This may be painfully obvious, but I can't seem to be able to set the 
from address using the mailto: URL scheme. Is anybody else seeing this 
behaviour. What is the correct syntax for that?



Cheers,
Pedro Lobo

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Re: [MlMt] mailto: URL scheme

2014-04-23 Thread Pedro Lobo
Figured it out, sorry about being dense. Still early and cofee hasn't 
kicked in. from= is only working via AppleScript and not a regular 
mailto: URL (launched via web or Alfred)


Cheers,
Pedro Lobo

On 23 Apr 2014, at 10:25, Pedro Lobo wrote:


Hi Guys,

This may be painfully obvious, but I can't seem to be able to set the 
from address using the mailto: URL scheme. Is anybody else seeing this 
behaviour. What is the correct syntax for that?



Cheers,
Pedro Lobo

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Cheers,
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[MlMt] Color of counters

2014-04-23 Thread Jeroen van Craenenbroeck

Hi all,

Is there a way to customize the color of the counters in the menu bar? 
(The default is red for unread and green for flagged, but I'd like to 
invert that.) Many thanks!


Best
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Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 37, Issue 29

2014-04-23 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 22 Apr 2014, at 18:14, Kee Hinckley wrote:


On 22 Apr 2014, at 12:09, Jean-Pierre Gattuso wrote:

On 22 Apr 2014, at 18:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote:

I'm having an odd issue where messages marked read or deleted on 
one

machine don't receive the same treatment on the other machine after
synchronization (they still appear as new messages). This is 
despite
it appearing to sync fine with GMail and my iOS clients. Any 
obvious

explanation for that?


I've been noticing this recently with iOS. Deleted, read, and junked 
messages still appearing on my iPhone. I'm using a CommuniGate iMap 
server. I am, I must say, inclined to blame iOS, which apparently 
doesn't use IDLE.


I'll be glad to look into it if any of you can play around with the 
Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0) to figure out where the problem is (MailMate 
or not). It doesn't sound quite like it's necessarily the same problem 
though. Deleted/junked messages should be a different story and sounds 
like MailMate isn't synchronizing any changes to the server (make sure 
all mailboxes are online under SOURCES).


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Re: [MlMt] MailSteward

2014-04-23 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 23 Apr 2014, at 6:14, Billy Youdelman wrote:


On 22 Apr 2014, at 20:01 MST, hargrove wrote:

What do I need to change in MailSteward to get it to read my email 
from Mailmate? Or have I missed something obvious?


After a quick look at the docs, it appears it only directly supports 
Apple's Mail.  For other user agents, you'd have to first export mail 
into mbox files, then import those into MailSteward.  See page 33 of 
this -


I believe MailSteward supports watching a folder on disk for new 
messages (which are then imported and deleted). This can be used 
together with the “Export to Folder” action available in the 
experimental rules feature in MailMate. In other words, it should be 
possible to do as follows in MailMate:


* Create an IMAP mailbox in MailMate which could be named MailSteward.
* Add a rule to the MailSteward mailbox. The rule should just have an 
“Export to Folder” action (which is then applied to all messages 
added to the mailbox).

* Make MailSteward watch the same folder.

Optionally, add an action to also move the message to “Deleted 
Messages” if the messages should be deleted in MailMate.


Remember to enable 2.0 features in the General preferences pane to make 
rules available.


I have not tested the above.

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Re: [MlMt] Smart folders and Contacts groups

2014-04-23 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 23 Apr 2014, at 0:58, Sherif Soliman wrote:

I just realized very recently that I couldn't type the name of a group 
and have it expand into the contacts. I do miss that from Mail.app.


The composer address text fields should already expand to email 
addresses if entering a group name from Contacts (Address Book). Until 
recently it didn't work for smart groups, but that is the only known 
issue.


(The requested feature is to support Contacts in the conditions used in 
smart mailboxes and searches.)


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Re: [MlMt] Issue with Mailmate and Basecamp

2014-04-23 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 22 Apr 2014, at 23:46, Dries Geeroms wrote:

Can you verify that the message only contains a plain text body part 
(if you use ⌥⌘U when viewing the message in Sent Messages)? If it 
does then I cannot see why it should fail. MailMate generates more 
standard-compliant plain text emails than many other email clients.


yep it does:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.7.2r4025)

[text]


The above should be fine if Basecamp requires plain text messages. You 
can however probably create a reply so simple that neither 
`format=flowed` or `quoted-printable` is needed (the latter should 
rarely be needed at all, but the quoted text probably contains some very 
long URLs or other non-breakable lines).


In other words, I'll probably need to see some proof that the problem 
is MailMate before spending more time on looking into this issue :-)


Let me know if you want me to help you debug, it's not a big deal for 
me as I hardly use base camp and like I said it does work for other 
Project Management tools...


Well, I really just want someone to tell me that a MailMate bug needs to 
be fixed if that is the case :-)


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Re: [MlMt] Color of counters

2014-04-23 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 23 Apr 2014, at 12:18, Jeroen van Craenenbroeck wrote:

Is there a way to customize the color of the counters in the menu bar? 
(The default is red for unread and green for flagged, but I'd like to 
invert that.)


Counter settings are found in the Counters preferences pane. You could 
swap the settings of the two counters to get the desired result. 
Low-level, it is also possible to change the colors used for the 
counters, but you don't need that in this case.


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[MlMt] I see AOL has joined Yahoo in setting their DMARC policy to 'reject'

2014-04-23 Thread Kee Hinckley

http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/

For list members, this means that if you send to a mailing list from 
Yahoo or AOL, and the person reading the mailing list is on AOL, Yahoo, 
Google, or other sites honoring DMARC headers--they aren't going to get 
your mail (and worse, the mailing list owner is going to get bounces, 
which might auto-unsubscribe you).


For list owners, this basically means that either:

1. Your mailing list makes no changes to the body of the message in any 
way and passes through the DMARC headers. (I think this works, leastwise 
I've heard on the NANOG lists that posting to NANOG from Yahoo works if 
you do text-only (they discard the HTML).


2. Your mailing list sets the From: header to a local address (e.g. 
no-reply@yourdomain) and puts the user's address in the Reply-To.


Needless to say, if you're used to sorting mail by user, deleting mail 
based on the from address, or other common operations in MailMate, 
you're in for a rude surprise if the mailing list does #2.


I'm mentioning this here mainly because I suspect it's may mean subtle 
changes in how MUAs handle lists.
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Re: [MlMt] I see AOL has joined Yahoo in setting their DMARC policy to 'reject'

2014-04-23 Thread Brad Knowles
On Apr 23, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Kee Hinckley kee+fre...@hinckley.com wrote:

 For list owners, this basically means that either:
 
   • Your mailing list makes no changes to the body of the message in any 
 way and passes through the DMARC headers. (I think this works, leastwise I’ve 
 heard on the NANOG lists that posting to NANOG from Yahoo works if you do 
 text-only (they discard the HTML).

Nope.  We're fighting this on the Mailman installation for python.org.  If you 
make no changes, then the IP address of the MTA for the mailing list won't 
match the advertised list for the sending domain, and therefore that message 
will be rejected.

   • Your mailing list sets the From: header to a local address (e.g. 
 no-reply@yourdomain) and puts the user’s address in the Reply-To.

Correct.  We are releasing Mailman 2.1.18 to allow listowners to address this 
issue, but you can also fix it in the MTA before the message gets to the 
mailing list.

A couple of my fellow postmasters for python.org are also well-known postfix 
developers (Patrick and Ralf literally wrote The Book of Postfix), and one of 
them is in the process of creating a milter on behalf of the DMARC committee 
that would allow people to easily fix this problem at the MTA.  I would expect 
to see an announcement via the DMARC committee on this subject in the near 
future.

 Needless to say, if you’re used to sorting mail by user, deleting mail based 
 on the from address, or other common operations in MailMate, you’re in for a 
 rude surprise if the mailing list does #2.

Yup.

 I’m mentioning this here mainly because I suspect it’s may mean subtle 
 changes in how MUAs handle lists.

Yup.

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Re: [MlMt] Issue with Mailmate and Basecamp

2014-04-23 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 23 Apr 2014, at 14:13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 22 Apr 2014, at 23:46, Dries Geeroms wrote:

[...]

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.7.2r4025)

[text]


The above should be fine if Basecamp requires plain text messages. You 
can however probably create a reply so simple that neither 
`format=flowed` or `quoted-printable` is needed (the latter should 
rarely be needed at all, but the quoted text probably contains some 
very long URLs or other non-breakable lines).


Corey (the OP) has been corresponding with the Basecamp people. As far 
as I understand, their parser does not like that the headers above do 
not include an explicit charset (according to the standards that 
implicitly means the charset is  ASCII). This is going to be fixed in 
Basecamp.


Even though MailMate behaves correctly I've just reconsidered how this 
works and I've decided that MailMate should always add a charset. I 
liked that MailMate did not generate more headers than necessary, but 
(for various reasons) in this case it is better to be explicit instead 
of implicit.


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Re: [MlMt] MailSteward

2014-04-23 Thread Gustavo Daniel Villarreal

On 23 Apr 2014, at 7:13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

I believe MailSteward supports watching a folder on disk for new 
messages (which are then imported and deleted). This can be used 
together with the “Export to Folder” action available in the 
experimental rules feature in MailMate. In other words, it should be 
possible to do as follows in MailMate:
\* Create an IMAP mailbox in MailMate which could be named 
MailSteward.
\* Add a rule to the MailSteward mailbox. The rule should just have an 
“Export to Folder” action (which is then applied to all messages 
added to the mailbox).

\* Make MailSteward watch the same folder.
Optionally, add an action to also move the message to “Deleted 
Messages” if the messages should be deleted in MailMate.
Remember to enable 2.0 features in the General preferences pane to 
make rules available.

I have not tested the above.


Just to confirm that this works. And it also works on Smart Folders (the 
way i'm doing it since I already had the Smart Folder and need to filter 
message age, unread status, flaggeds, etc.) I'm not sure when the Rules 
are being triggered with the Smart Folder but I can see that messages 
appear on the Export folder by themselves without me checking the Smart 
Folder or even focusing MailMate, which is surprising but welcomed.

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