Re: [MlMt] Query about not receiving mail
On 25 Sep 2018, at 7:02 (-0400), Annamarie wrote: Hi This isn't really a MM tech question but it's an email question and maybe someone on this list has some insight... To wit I emailed 15 people and sent as a BCC so as not to share their emails with each other. Discovered yesterday that two of them hadn't received the mail. The addresses are correct (I've used them, copying and pasting from the actual email I sent), they are in the middle of the list. The mail didn't go into spam - it just didn't get there as far as I can tell. Why would that happen? Any ideas? I blame the race to the bottom in the business of providing mailboxes... More specifically, this is a thing that some mail providers will do because they've chosen to economize on their capacity to do mail filtering and deliverability decisions "live" during the SMTP conversation rather than simply queueing messages that they may eventually decide not to deliver. Usually that's due to flaky spam filtering, but there can be other causes. The biggest offenders in this are Microsoft (with their free services being *MUCH* worse about it than their paid Office365) and Yahoo. Google is much less likely to silently drop legitimate messages at the price of being the most opaque about why messages land in their 'Spam' folders. Beyond the 800-pound gorillas of email there are many smaller mail systems who have made similar choices, to sacrifice robustness for convenience by dropping mail silently rather than risk misdirected 'backscatter' from deferred filtering. The specific reason your mail is being caught by filtering that ends up just dropping messages is site-specific, case-specific, and in some cases (e.g. Microsoft) literally unknowable because the systems doing it are based in complex "machine learning" and don't have fixed criteria. TL;DR version: Email is not a robustly reliable communication medium and is less so today than it has been in the past, due largely to the triumph of "free" mailboxes. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Available For Hire: https://linkedin.com/in/billcole ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Can't change message status to UNread
Is this a known (or a new) bug, or in the midst of my other MM woes, have I screwed up some setting? I am utterly unable to change a message's read status back to unread, for ***most*** messages, although I haven't been able to figure out exactly what the trigger for it failing is. Upon an attempt to mark a single read message UNread, MailMate immediately reverts it back to read. If multiple messages are selected, this does not happen. You can see this in action in the following video screen capture: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s26ico2v936zo8i/MM-Cannot-Unread-1-Message.mp4?dl=0 This becomes particularly problematic when the message I want to change is the ONLY message displayed!___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Virtual Header created from LDAP search
I'd like to create a Smart Mailbox based on an LDAP attribute of the sender. (e.g. their department) I think the best way to do this is via Virtual Headers, but don't know how to create one based on an ldap search. Does anyone have any pointers as to how to achieve this? thanks, Stephen. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Query about not receiving mail
Any mail server “on the way” to those recipients could have classified your message as spam and dropped it in the bit bucket. From what I’ve seen, mail servers have a couple of spam thresholds: a lower confidence one where the message goes to the user’s Spam/Junk folder and a higher confidence one where the message is rejected outright. Depending on the server, it may or may not send a bounce back. I’m curious if those two users are using different email providers than the rest of the folks on your message. I sometimes have delivery problems with @yahoo.com and @aol.com recipients. I used the “Mail Tester” service to test how mail servers are likely to see my outgoing emails. There were a few things I could fix and more that my email host had to fix. Give it a try! https://www.mail-tester.com/ Hope this helps! -sam On 25 Sep 2018, at 7:02, Annamarie wrote: Hi This isn't really a MM tech question but it's an email question and maybe someone on this list has some insight... To wit I emailed 15 people and sent as a BCC so as not to share their emails with each other. Discovered yesterday that two of them hadn't received the mail. The addresses are correct (I've used them, copying and pasting from the actual email I sent), they are in the middle of the list. The mail didn't go into spam - it just didn't get there as far as I can tell. Why would that happen? Any ideas? Thanks Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Query about not receiving mail
Hi This isn't really a MM tech question but it's an email question and maybe someone on this list has some insight... To wit I emailed 15 people and sent as a BCC so as not to share their emails with each other. Discovered yesterday that two of them hadn't received the mail. The addresses are correct (I've used them, copying and pasting from the actual email I sent), they are in the middle of the list. The mail didn't go into spam - it just didn't get there as far as I can tell. Why would that happen? Any ideas? Thanks Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
