Re: [MlMt] Attach files

[Olivier Bedouelle]

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On 25 Nov 2020, at 19:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 25 Nov 2020, at 13:51, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:


When I use command+maj+A Mailmate 5738 quits immediately


Sorry about that. Please also try 
[MailMate_r5741.tbz](https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5741.tbz). 
If it still happens then use “Help ▸ Send Feedback” to send me a 
crash report.


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Re: [MlMt] Finding rules

[Bill Cole]

On 25 Nov 2020, at 13:14, Charlie Clark wrote:

Yes, I worked that out. Looks like it's a form of JSON, so I can 
probably write something to work with it.


It is the pre-XML ASCII text format NeXT Property List format.

You can use the 'plutil' tool which is included in all modern MacOS 
versions to convert that to XML or proper JSON or even Apple's binary 
plist format. You can also pipe the XML output of plutil to the older 
'pl' tool which will convert it back to the old ASCII text format.




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Re: [MlMt] Finding rules

[MlMt]

 I miss Eudora. That was a really great email client.  MailMate is the 
closest thing I've found to it, and I've looked a long time for a worthy 
replacement.


On Wed Nov 25, 2020 at 04:13 PM, Randall Gellens wrote:

I've mentioned before that finding a rule that acted on a message can 
be quite frustrating, and I've sung the praises for the old Mac 
Eudora's feature that allowed one to select one or more messages and 
then see the rules that would operate on them.  Mac Eudora had a menu 
item that showed all rules, allowed editing/copying/deleting them.  
Holding down a bucky bit (I think it was "option") when clicking this 
menu item with one or more messages selected opened the window and 
highlighted the rules that matched the selected message(s).  Super 
handy.


--Randall

On 25 Nov 2020, at 12:04, Glenn Parker wrote:


On 25 Nov 2020, at 13:14, Charlie Clark wrote:


On 25 Nov 2020, at 16:18, Glenn Parker wrote:

Rules are stored in ~/Library/Application\\ 
Support/MailMate/Mailboxes.plist


You can open it with TextEdit and search for “rule”. Probably 
safest to do this when MailMate is not running, or make a copy of 
the file to play around with.


Yes, I worked that out. Looks like it's a form of JSON, so I can 
probably write something to work with it. I can sort of understand 
why it's not accessible in another way from within MailMate but I 
think it could be useful to see filters / rules together.


I wasn’t thinking you would do any serious editing in TextEdit. 
This will allow you to find the location of the rule, after which you 
can go back to editing it inside MailMate as usual.


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Re: [MlMt] Finding rules

[Randall Gellens]

I've mentioned before that finding a rule that acted on a message can be 
quite frustrating, and I've sung the praises for the old Mac Eudora's 
feature that allowed one to select one or more messages and then see the 
rules that would operate on them.  Mac Eudora had a menu item that 
showed all rules, allowed editing/copying/deleting them.  Holding down a 
bucky bit (I think it was "option") when clicking this menu item with 
one or more messages selected opened the window and highlighted the 
rules that matched the selected message(s).  Super handy.


--Randall

On 25 Nov 2020, at 12:04, Glenn Parker wrote:


On 25 Nov 2020, at 13:14, Charlie Clark wrote:


On 25 Nov 2020, at 16:18, Glenn Parker wrote:

Rules are stored in ~/Library/Application\\ 
Support/MailMate/Mailboxes.plist


You can open it with TextEdit and search for “rule”. Probably 
safest to do this when MailMate is not running, or make a copy of 
the file to play around with.


Yes, I worked that out. Looks like it's a form of JSON, so I can 
probably write something to work with it. I can sort of understand 
why it's not accessible in another way from within MailMate but I 
think it could be useful to see filters / rules together.


I wasn’t thinking you would do any serious editing in TextEdit. This 
will allow you to find the location of the rule, after which you can 
go back to editing it inside MailMate as usual.


Glenn P. Parker
glenn.par...@comcast.net
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Re: [MlMt] Finding rules

[Glenn Parker]

On 25 Nov 2020, at 13:14, Charlie Clark wrote:


On 25 Nov 2020, at 16:18, Glenn Parker wrote:

Rules are stored in ~/Library/Application\\ 
Support/MailMate/Mailboxes.plist


You can open it with TextEdit and search for “rule”. Probably 
safest to do this when MailMate is not running, or make a copy of the 
file to play around with.


Yes, I worked that out. Looks like it's a form of JSON, so I can 
probably write something to work with it. I can sort of understand why 
it's not accessible in another way from within MailMate but I think it 
could be useful to see filters / rules together.


I wasn’t thinking you would do any serious editing in TextEdit. This 
will allow you to find the location of the rule, after which you can go 
back to editing it inside MailMate as usual.


Glenn P. Parker
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Re: [MlMt] Attach files

[Charlie Clark]

On 25 Nov 2020, at 19:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Sorry about that. Please also try 
[MailMate_r5741.tbz](https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5741.tbz). 
If it still happens then use “Help ▸ Send Feedback” to send me a 
crash report.


Impressive change list, Benny and so far pretty stable! Monospace fonts 
for the viewer are back! Yay and thrice yay!


I've hit on some bugs related to filters, though to be fair these also 
affect r5726. I assume you're aware of them but just in case your not:


* Date received is limited only to some preselections so "is within" or 
"is not within" are not available. You can set these manually in the 
Mailboxes.plist file and then edit them, but this isn't for the 
faint-hearted!


* Message is / Message is not do not have the same set of choices.

There are probably more but I found these trying to recreate a filter I 
mistakenly deleted.


Charlie

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Re: [MlMt] Editing draft messages

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 25 Nov 2020, at 13:26, Martin S Taylor wrote:

>> On 24 Nov 2020, at 12:45, Martin S Taylor wrote:
>>
>> Does double-clicking on the message one-line header summary open it for 
>> editing?  That's how it works for drafts I save myself to come back to 
>> later; I would expect similar behavior regardless of how the message ended 
>> un in the Drafts folder.
>
> You would expect that, wouldn't you? But it doesn't.
>
> It works the way you describe for drafts I've written myself, but not for 
> drafts written by someone else.

This is intentional. The format of drafts isn't really standardized and it 
would also be hard to do since email clients do not support the same feature 
set. For example, a plain text email client cannot edit an HTML email. The 
drafts generated by MailMate are pretty standard in formatting, but many email 
clients put all kinds of non-standard headers and content into drafts which 
MailMate cannot handle.

MailMate recognizes its own messages (based on the X-Mailer header), but in 
order to not accidentally destroy content/formatting of other drafts then it 
won't do this in other cases. You have to use “Message ▸ Edit as New Message” 
instead which will ensure that the original draft is still around -- just in 
case something goes wrong.

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Re: [MlMt] Attach files

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 25 Nov 2020, at 13:51, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:

> When I use command+maj+A Mailmate 5738 quits immediately

Sorry about that. Please also try 
[MailMate_r5741.tbz](https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5741.tbz).
 If it still happens then use “Help ▸ Send Feedback” to send me a crash report.

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Re: [MlMt] Finding rules

[Charlie Clark]

On 25 Nov 2020, at 16:18, Glenn Parker wrote:

Rules are stored in ~/Library/Application\\ 
Support/MailMate/Mailboxes.plist


You can open it with TextEdit and search for “rule”. Probably 
safest to do this when MailMate is not running, or make a copy of the 
file to play around with.


Yes, I worked that out. Looks like it's a form of JSON, so I can 
probably write something to work with it. I can sort of understand why 
it's not accessible in another way from within MailMate but I think it 
could be useful to see filters / rules together.


Charlie

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Re: [MlMt] Finding rules

[Glenn Parker]

On 25 Nov 2020, at 8:15, Charlie Clark wrote:


Hiya everyone,

is there a simple way within MailMate to show all the rules? I've got 
a couple I want to edit and I can't remember which mailbox/folder I 
created them on.


I assume there is a settings file I can use but thought there might 
also be an easier way.


Rules are stored in ~/Library/Application\\ 
Support/MailMate/Mailboxes.plist


You can open it with TextEdit and search for “rule”. Probably safest 
to do this when MailMate is not running, or make a copy of the file to 
play around with.


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glenn.par...@comcast.net
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[MlMt] Finding rules

[Charlie Clark]

Hiya everyone,

is there a simple way within MailMate to show all the rules? I've got a 
couple I want to edit and I can't remember which mailbox/folder I 
created them on.


I assume there is a settings file I can use but thought there might also 
be an easier way.


Charlie

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[MlMt] Attach files

[Olivier Bedouelle]

Hi,

When I use command+maj+A Mailmate 5738 quits immediately

Bien à vous

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Re: [MlMt] Editing draft messages

[Martin S Taylor]

On 24 Nov 2020, at 12:45, Martin S Taylor wrote:

Suppose a colleague has access to a (joint) account, and writes an 
email on that account (not using MailMate). She doesn't send it, but 
saves it as a draft pending my approval.


It shows up in the Drafts folder on my machine. (Under 'Pending 
Submission' it says 'not available'.)


I'd now like to edit it to make some amendments. How can I do this?

Martin



Does double-clicking on the message one-line header summary open it 
for editing?  That's how it works for drafts I save myself to come 
back to later; I would expect similar behavior regardless of how the 
message ended un in the Drafts folder.


You would expect that, wouldn't you? But it doesn't.

It works the way you describe for drafts I've written myself, but not 
for drafts written by someone else.


MST
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