Re: [MlMt] MailMate needs to be updated warning
Oh, this is most excellent! Thank you, everyone! I have no idea what Juice is, or Premailer (tho I can guess they’re probably Markdown → HTML conversion libraries), or why either one would have been selected instead of the other — but I can confirm that with Juice selected *finally* I can again use Markdown with MailMate! (See that nice bit of italics? ) I’ll confess that for the last two or three months I’ve been using FastMail’s web interface just so I could do the small bit of email formatting that I need to do. I’ve been missing MailMate! It’s good to be back. Benny, I should have done it long ago, but am now an official Patron. Thank you so much for the care and dedication you’ve poured into this indispensable app. — Erik -- 2022-04-06 15:06 · [Benny Kjær Nielsen](mailto:mailingl...@freron.com): On 6 Apr 2022, at 19:52, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: Yes, I’m using Juice. I’m on 12.3.1, which doesn’t come with Python 2.7 anymore. So I can confirm that emate doesn’t work there, currently. The good news is that it appears to be ready for Python 3: python3 bin/emate mailto -t haged...@uni-koeln.de works as expected. Ah, yes, I definitely need to look into this issue. (Apple plans to eventually remove most scripting languages currently included with macOS.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate needs to be updated warning
On 6 Apr 2022, at 19:52, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Yes, I’m using Juice. I’m on 12.3.1, which doesn’t come with Python 2.7 > anymore. So I can confirm that emate doesn’t work there, currently. The good > news is that it appears to be ready for Python 3: > > python3 bin/emate mailto -t haged...@uni-koeln.de > > works as expected. Ah, yes, I definitely need to look into this issue. (Apple plans to eventually remove most scripting languages currently included with macOS.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Customizing replied and forwarded string format?
Is there a way to customize the format of the reply and forward content? E.g., I would like to use this: ``` - Forwarded message from em...@example.com, 06 Apr 2022 - Stet clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy. ``` Instead of what MailMate does by default: ``` Forwarded message: From: Fname Lname To: Quinn Comendant Subject: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2022 09:10:10 + Stet clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy. ``` Thanks, Quinn___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate needs to be updated warning
On 6 Apr 2022, at 19:44, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 6 Apr 2022, at 18:33, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > I have the same version of MailMate as you, I only have python3 installed, > and yet Markdown works **fine**. > > You are likely using Juice instead of Premailer although it might also be > related to the macOS release. I think there's a message on the list > indicating a change on macOS 12.3 which I haven't looked into yet. Yes, I’m using Juice. I’m on 12.3.1, which doesn’t come with Python 2.7 anymore. So I can confirm that emate doesn’t work there, currently. The good news is that it appears to be ready for Python 3: python3 bin/emate mailto -t haged...@uni-koeln.de works as expected. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-470-89578.:. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate needs to be updated warning
On 6 Apr 2022, at 18:33, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I have the same version of MailMate as you, I only have python3 installed, > and yet Markdown works **fine**. You are likely using Juice instead of Premailer although it might also be related to the macOS release. I think there's a message on the list indicating a change on macOS 12.3 which I haven't looked into yet. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate needs to be updated warning
On 6 Apr 2022, at 18:16, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote: > Is my only recourse to figure out how to download Python 2.7 and install it > properly in `/usr/bin/`? Don't do that. Instead, go to the Composer preferences pane and switch to Juice. This should be the default, but if you ever selected Premailer manually then that'll probably override it. I'll have to look into handling this more gracefully. Premailer might still be needed on older macOS releases although I'm not 100% sure that is true any longer. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Crashing on printing with r5876 and r5881
On 6 Apr 2022, at 9:36, Marc ARC wrote: > Robert, > > Imho both should work ( selecting the menu and pushing option or pushing > option and selecting the menu ) > > What I find remarkable, is that in your screenshot the “Check for Update” > menu item seems to be missing . . . > > Are you using a secret key combination we don’t known about ? ;-) It didn't work before, but after update to 5882 I see it. Best, R > > > > Marc > > > On 6 Apr 2022, at 16:16, Robert Goldman wrote: > >> Thank you, Harry. I was confused because I thought you meant hold down the >> option key when choosing from the menu, rather than when activating the >> menu. Yes, that works fine. >> >> Best, >> R >> >> >> On 6 Apr 2022, at 9:14, Henry Seiden wrote: >> >>> Robert, >>> >>> For Test Builds hold down OPT Keyboard button when selecting the menu item, >>> MailMate. R5882 is the latest Test Build I show. What version are you on? >>> Perhaps it’s so old that these features weren’t incorporated yet?? >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> >>> Henry Seiden >>> - - >>> Techworks Pro Co. >>> E: infotechworksprocom >>> W: http://techworkspro.com >>> >>> On 4 Apr 2022, at 12:39, Robert Goldman wrote: >>> I'm confused: when I click on the MailMate menu there is no "Check for Update" or "Check for Test Build" option:  Looks like I should be checking on the "Software Update" tab of MailMate preferences. But I'm surprised that my UI is different from yours. The Option click on the "Check Now" button on that pane works to get me 5882, but the button text does *not* update when I hold the option down: it still shows "Check Now." On 4 Apr 2022, at 4:47, Marc ARC wrote: > Alex, > > MailMate menu > [Option] (turns in to Build>) > > Or you can download on the test releases on ( allows you also to revert > to an earlier version in case of a major issue) : > https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ > > The Test release notes can be found on: > https://updates.mailmate-app.com/test_release_notes > > Regards, > > > > Marc > > > On 4 Apr 2022, at 10:00, Alex Steiner via mailmate wrote: > >> Where do I get the newest beta? The auto-updater within the app won’t >> update beyond 5876. >> >> On 4 Apr 2022, at 9:26, Marc ARC wrote: >> >>> Raza, >>> >>> Unless you have good reasons to stick with r5876, I would recommend you >>> to move to the latest beta release r5882 >>> >>> On my system it works as fine. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Marc >>> >>> On 28 Mar 2022, at 11:42, Raza Rizvi wrote: >>> Hi, As the subject says, printing via the top right print icon causes an immediate crash - though the print job is queued to the spooler and does print. It is more of an irritation than a huge problem as (other than the one occasion prior to my deployment of r5876 where Mailmate would only half start) you just reopen Mailmate. The bit from the crash log display that might be of use is: Exception Type:EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) Exception Codes: 0x0002, 0x Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Signal:Trace/BPT trap: 5 Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x5 Terminating Process: exc handler [3457] Raza ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >>> ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate >> >>> ___ >>> mailmate mailing list >>> mailmate@lists.freron.com >>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate needs to be updated warning
FWIW, I have the same version of MailMate as you, I only have python3 installed, and yet Markdown works **fine**. I don’t have the Premailer bundle at all. Did you install that yourself? On 6 Apr 2022, at 18:16, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote: > And this, finally, seems to be the answer to the error that I get whenever I > attempt to send a Markdown-formatted email in MailMate. Thanks to Benny’s > recently improved error reporting, I see the following whenever I attempt to > send such a message: > > ``` > Bundle command failed (Inline CSS/9846E526-1B45-42E8-8E75-F2B47AB5FF76) > > /Users/xyzzy/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/Premailer > (Python).mmbundle/Support/bin/premailer: > /Users/xyzzy/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/Premailer > (Python).mmbundle/Support/premailerize: > /usr/bin/python2.7: bad interpreter: No such file or directory > > /Users/xyzzy/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/Premailer > (Python).mmbundle/Support/bin/premailer: > /Users/xyzzy/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/Premailer > (Python).mmbundle/Support/premailerize: > /usr/bin/python2.7: bad interpreter: No such file or directory > ``` > > (I’ve just formatted that with a code fence, but I’ll bet you all will see > the raw Markdown rather than the lightly formatted HTML that I want to send.) > > Is my only recourse to figure out how to download Python 2.7 and install it > properly in `/usr/bin/`? > > (Again, the formatting works perfectly in MailMate’s preview pane; it doesn’t > “fail” until I save the draft or send the message.) > > – Erik > MailMate 1.14 (5882) > macOS 12.3.1 > MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021, Apple M1 Max) > > -- > 2021-08-20 21:17 · [Bill Cole](mailto:mmlist-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com): > >> On 2021-08-20 at 10:38:14 UTC-0400 (Fri, 20 Aug 2021 14:38:14 +) >> Randy H. Tjahjono >> is rumored to have said: >> >>> I'm running the Monterey beta, and when launching MailMate I will >>> occasionally get this warning >>> >>> [ "MM Warning-GIF.gif" ] >>> >>> Clicking on the *Learn More* link takes me to >>> https://www.python.org/doc/sunset-python-2/ >>> >>> I'm not sure if this is an issue with Monterey, MailMate, Python, all >>> three, or no issue at all. >> >> All 3. >> >> MM includes a couple of Python scripts (emate and html2text) that are >> written in Python and specify Python 2.7. >> >> Python 2 is an obsolete version of the Python language. The effort to get >> everyone using Python to convert to Python 3 was a 14-year project that did >> not go well. There have been no improvements, security patches, or bug >> tracking for Python 2.7 since 2019. There are still a lot of Python 2 >> scripts embedded in other programs like MM and in production as freestanding >> software like the GNU Mailman v2 instance running this mailing list. In the >> cases where 2->3 conversion is not trivial, it has often led developers to >> completely rewrite programs (e.g Mailman v3) from scratch. >> >> Operating systems have finally started to remove Python 2.x packages from >> their official distributions and Apple is one of the last to do so. They are >> apparently including a mechanism for warning users in the Monterey beta, >> which is a good thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bill Cole >> b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org >> (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) >> Not Currently Available For Hire >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-470-89578.:. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate needs to be updated warning
And this, finally, seems to be the answer to the error that I get whenever I attempt to send a Markdown-formatted email in MailMate. Thanks to Benny’s recently improved error reporting, I see the following whenever I attempt to send such a message: ``` Bundle command failed (Inline CSS/9846E526-1B45-42E8-8E75-F2B47AB5FF76) /Users/xyzzy/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/Premailer (Python).mmbundle/Support/bin/premailer: /Users/xyzzy/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/Premailer (Python).mmbundle/Support/premailerize: /usr/bin/python2.7: bad interpreter: No such file or directory /Users/xyzzy/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/Premailer (Python).mmbundle/Support/bin/premailer: /Users/xyzzy/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Managed/Bundles/Premailer (Python).mmbundle/Support/premailerize: /usr/bin/python2.7: bad interpreter: No such file or directory ``` (I’ve just formatted that with a code fence, but I’ll bet you all will see the raw Markdown rather than the lightly formatted HTML that I want to send.) Is my only recourse to figure out how to download Python 2.7 and install it properly in `/usr/bin/`? (Again, the formatting works perfectly in MailMate’s preview pane; it doesn’t “fail” until I save the draft or send the message.) – Erik MailMate 1.14 (5882) macOS 12.3.1 MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021, Apple M1 Max) -- 2021-08-20 21:17 · [Bill Cole](mailto:mmlist-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com): > On 2021-08-20 at 10:38:14 UTC-0400 (Fri, 20 Aug 2021 14:38:14 +) > Randy H. Tjahjono > is rumored to have said: > >> I'm running the Monterey beta, and when launching MailMate I will >> occasionally get this warning >> >> [ "MM Warning-GIF.gif" ] >> >> Clicking on the *Learn More* link takes me to >> https://www.python.org/doc/sunset-python-2/ >> >> I'm not sure if this is an issue with Monterey, MailMate, Python, all three, >> or no issue at all. > > All 3. > > MM includes a couple of Python scripts (emate and html2text) that are written > in Python and specify Python 2.7. > > Python 2 is an obsolete version of the Python language. The effort to get > everyone using Python to convert to Python 3 was a 14-year project that did > not go well. There have been no improvements, security patches, or bug > tracking for Python 2.7 since 2019. There are still a lot of Python 2 scripts > embedded in other programs like MM and in production as freestanding software > like the GNU Mailman v2 instance running this mailing list. In the cases > where 2->3 conversion is not trivial, it has often led developers to > completely rewrite programs (e.g Mailman v3) from scratch. > > Operating systems have finally started to remove Python 2.x packages from > their official distributions and Apple is one of the last to do so. They are > apparently including a mechanism for warning users in the Monterey beta, > which is a good thing. > > > > > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) > Not Currently Available For Hire > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Crashing on printing with r5876 and r5881
Robert, For what it’s worth, on r5875 pressing the option key _after_ I’ve pulled down the MailMate menu changes the text of the “Check for Update” item to “Check for Test Build”. (And, interestingly, changes the text of “Quit MailMate” to “Quit and Close All Windows”.) Cheers, -sam On 6 Apr 2022, at 10:16, Robert Goldman wrote: Thank you, Harry. I was confused because I thought you meant hold down the option key when choosing from the menu, rather than when activating the menu. Yes, that works fine. Best, R On 6 Apr 2022, at 9:14, Henry Seiden wrote: Robert, For Test Builds hold down OPT Keyboard button when selecting the menu item, MailMate. R5882 is the latest Test Build I show. What version are you on? Perhaps it’s so old that these features weren’t incorporated yet?? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 4 Apr 2022, at 12:39, Robert Goldman wrote: I'm confused: when I click on the MailMate menu there is no "Check for Update" or "Check for Test Build" option:  Looks like I should be checking on the "Software Update" tab of MailMate preferences. But I'm surprised that my UI is different from yours. The Option click on the "Check Now" button on that pane works to get me 5882, but the button text does *not* update when I hold the option down: it still shows "Check Now." On 4 Apr 2022, at 4:47, Marc ARC wrote: Alex, MailMate menu > [Option] (turns in to Test Build>) Or you can download on the test releases on ( allows you also to revert to an earlier version in case of a major issue) : https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ The Test release notes can be found on: https://updates.mailmate-app.com/test_release_notes Regards, Marc On 4 Apr 2022, at 10:00, Alex Steiner via mailmate wrote: Where do I get the newest beta? The auto-updater within the app won’t update beyond 5876. On 4 Apr 2022, at 9:26, Marc ARC wrote: Raza, Unless you have good reasons to stick with r5876, I would recommend you to move to the latest beta release r5882 On my system it works as fine. Regards, Marc On 28 Mar 2022, at 11:42, Raza Rizvi wrote: Hi, As the subject says, printing via the top right print icon causes an immediate crash - though the print job is queued to the spooler and does print. It is more of an irritation than a huge problem as (other than the one occasion prior to my deployment of r5876 where Mailmate would only half start) you just reopen Mailmate. The bit from the crash log display that might be of use is: Exception Type:EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) Exception Codes: 0x0002, 0x Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Signal:Trace/BPT trap: 5 Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x5 Terminating Process: exc handler [3457] Raza ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Crashing on printing with r5876 and r5881
Robert, Imho both should work ( selecting the menu and pushing option or pushing option and selecting the menu ) What I find remarkable, is that in your screenshot the “Check for Update” menu item seems to be missing . . . Are you using a secret key combination we don’t known about ? ;-) Marc On 6 Apr 2022, at 16:16, Robert Goldman wrote: Thank you, Harry. I was confused because I thought you meant hold down the option key when choosing from the menu, rather than when activating the menu. Yes, that works fine. Best, R On 6 Apr 2022, at 9:14, Henry Seiden wrote: Robert, For Test Builds hold down OPT Keyboard button when selecting the menu item, MailMate. R5882 is the latest Test Build I show. What version are you on? Perhaps it’s so old that these features weren’t incorporated yet?? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 4 Apr 2022, at 12:39, Robert Goldman wrote: I'm confused: when I click on the MailMate menu there is no "Check for Update" or "Check for Test Build" option:  Looks like I should be checking on the "Software Update" tab of MailMate preferences. But I'm surprised that my UI is different from yours. The Option click on the "Check Now" button on that pane works to get me 5882, but the button text does *not* update when I hold the option down: it still shows "Check Now." On 4 Apr 2022, at 4:47, Marc ARC wrote: Alex, MailMate menu > [Option] (turns in to Test Build>) Or you can download on the test releases on ( allows you also to revert to an earlier version in case of a major issue) : https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ The Test release notes can be found on: https://updates.mailmate-app.com/test_release_notes Regards, Marc On 4 Apr 2022, at 10:00, Alex Steiner via mailmate wrote: Where do I get the newest beta? The auto-updater within the app won’t update beyond 5876. On 4 Apr 2022, at 9:26, Marc ARC wrote: Raza, Unless you have good reasons to stick with r5876, I would recommend you to move to the latest beta release r5882 On my system it works as fine. Regards, Marc On 28 Mar 2022, at 11:42, Raza Rizvi wrote: Hi, As the subject says, printing via the top right print icon causes an immediate crash - though the print job is queued to the spooler and does print. It is more of an irritation than a huge problem as (other than the one occasion prior to my deployment of r5876 where Mailmate would only half start) you just reopen Mailmate. The bit from the crash log display that might be of use is: Exception Type:EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) Exception Codes: 0x0002, 0x Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Signal:Trace/BPT trap: 5 Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x5 Terminating Process: exc handler [3457] Raza ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Crashing on printing with r5876 and r5881
Robert, Suspected something amiss like that. Benny features are a bit confusing but easy to use once learned. That’s why we’re here! Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 6 Apr 2022, at 10:16, Robert Goldman wrote: Thank you, Harry. I was confused because I thought you meant hold down the option key when choosing from the menu, rather than when activating the menu. Yes, that works fine. Best, R On 6 Apr 2022, at 9:14, Henry Seiden wrote: Robert, For Test Builds hold down OPT Keyboard button when selecting the menu item, MailMate. R5882 is the latest Test Build I show. What version are you on? Perhaps it’s so old that these features weren’t incorporated yet?? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 4 Apr 2022, at 12:39, Robert Goldman wrote: I'm confused: when I click on the MailMate menu there is no "Check for Update" or "Check for Test Build" option:  Looks like I should be checking on the "Software Update" tab of MailMate preferences. But I'm surprised that my UI is different from yours. The Option click on the "Check Now" button on that pane works to get me 5882, but the button text does *not* update when I hold the option down: it still shows "Check Now." On 4 Apr 2022, at 4:47, Marc ARC wrote: Alex, MailMate menu > [Option] (turns in to Test Build>) Or you can download on the test releases on ( allows you also to revert to an earlier version in case of a major issue) : https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ The Test release notes can be found on: https://updates.mailmate-app.com/test_release_notes Regards, Marc On 4 Apr 2022, at 10:00, Alex Steiner via mailmate wrote: Where do I get the newest beta? The auto-updater within the app won’t update beyond 5876. On 4 Apr 2022, at 9:26, Marc ARC wrote: Raza, Unless you have good reasons to stick with r5876, I would recommend you to move to the latest beta release r5882 On my system it works as fine. Regards, Marc On 28 Mar 2022, at 11:42, Raza Rizvi wrote: Hi, As the subject says, printing via the top right print icon causes an immediate crash - though the print job is queued to the spooler and does print. It is more of an irritation than a huge problem as (other than the one occasion prior to my deployment of r5876 where Mailmate would only half start) you just reopen Mailmate. The bit from the crash log display that might be of use is: Exception Type:EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) Exception Codes: 0x0002, 0x Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Signal:Trace/BPT trap: 5 Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x5 Terminating Process: exc handler [3457] Raza ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Crashing on printing with r5876 and r5881
Thank you, Harry. I was confused because I thought you meant hold down the option key when choosing from the menu, rather than when activating the menu. Yes, that works fine. Best, R On 6 Apr 2022, at 9:14, Henry Seiden wrote: Robert, For Test Builds hold down OPT Keyboard button when selecting the menu item, MailMate. R5882 is the latest Test Build I show. What version are you on? Perhaps it’s so old that these features weren’t incorporated yet?? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 4 Apr 2022, at 12:39, Robert Goldman wrote: I'm confused: when I click on the MailMate menu there is no "Check for Update" or "Check for Test Build" option:  Looks like I should be checking on the "Software Update" tab of MailMate preferences. But I'm surprised that my UI is different from yours. The Option click on the "Check Now" button on that pane works to get me 5882, but the button text does *not* update when I hold the option down: it still shows "Check Now." On 4 Apr 2022, at 4:47, Marc ARC wrote: Alex, MailMate menu > [Option] (turns in to Test Build>) Or you can download on the test releases on ( allows you also to revert to an earlier version in case of a major issue) : https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ The Test release notes can be found on: https://updates.mailmate-app.com/test_release_notes Regards, Marc On 4 Apr 2022, at 10:00, Alex Steiner via mailmate wrote: Where do I get the newest beta? The auto-updater within the app won’t update beyond 5876. On 4 Apr 2022, at 9:26, Marc ARC wrote: Raza, Unless you have good reasons to stick with r5876, I would recommend you to move to the latest beta release r5882 On my system it works as fine. Regards, Marc On 28 Mar 2022, at 11:42, Raza Rizvi wrote: Hi, As the subject says, printing via the top right print icon causes an immediate crash - though the print job is queued to the spooler and does print. It is more of an irritation than a huge problem as (other than the one occasion prior to my deployment of r5876 where Mailmate would only half start) you just reopen Mailmate. The bit from the crash log display that might be of use is: Exception Type:EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) Exception Codes: 0x0002, 0x Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Signal:Trace/BPT trap: 5 Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x5 Terminating Process: exc handler [3457] Raza ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Crashing on printing with r5876 and r5881
Robert, For Test Builds hold down OPT Keyboard button when selecting the menu item, MailMate. R5882 is the latest Test Build I show. What version are you on? Perhaps it’s so old that these features weren’t incorporated yet?? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 4 Apr 2022, at 12:39, Robert Goldman wrote: I'm confused: when I click on the MailMate menu there is no "Check for Update" or "Check for Test Build" option:  Looks like I should be checking on the "Software Update" tab of MailMate preferences. But I'm surprised that my UI is different from yours. The Option click on the "Check Now" button on that pane works to get me 5882, but the button text does *not* update when I hold the option down: it still shows "Check Now." On 4 Apr 2022, at 4:47, Marc ARC wrote: Alex, MailMate menu > [Option] (turns in to Test Build>) Or you can download on the test releases on ( allows you also to revert to an earlier version in case of a major issue) : https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ The Test release notes can be found on: https://updates.mailmate-app.com/test_release_notes Regards, Marc On 4 Apr 2022, at 10:00, Alex Steiner via mailmate wrote: Where do I get the newest beta? The auto-updater within the app won’t update beyond 5876. On 4 Apr 2022, at 9:26, Marc ARC wrote: Raza, Unless you have good reasons to stick with r5876, I would recommend you to move to the latest beta release r5882 On my system it works as fine. Regards, Marc On 28 Mar 2022, at 11:42, Raza Rizvi wrote: Hi, As the subject says, printing via the top right print icon causes an immediate crash - though the print job is queued to the spooler and does print. It is more of an irritation than a huge problem as (other than the one occasion prior to my deployment of r5876 where Mailmate would only half start) you just reopen Mailmate. The bit from the crash log display that might be of use is: Exception Type:EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) Exception Codes: 0x0002, 0x Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Signal:Trace/BPT trap: 5 Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x5 Terminating Process: exc handler [3457] Raza ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
