Re: [MlMt] Anyone else have extra HTML in Raw view?
Think I’m seeing the same as you, Pete, in 5922. - - Please excuse the tttapping errors... Sent from my iPhone C/T (954) 253-4125 Henry M. Seiden Techworks Pro > On Oct 24, 2022, at 13:47, Pete Resnick via mailmate > wrote: > > It looks like an HTML representation of the message headers. > > I'm also not seeing black on grey for "raw format", but a box around it and > colored header names. Something is also goofy about character encodings > (though different than what John Cooper described earlier), but I can't > figure out exactly what's going on. > > I think some new feature has gone a bit goofy in 5922. > > pr > > > -- > Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ > All connections to the world are tenuous at best > >> On 24 Oct 2022, at 11:21, Bill Cole wrote: >> >> Running latest test build r5922, 99% certain it wasn't in r5920. >> >> "View->Show Raw Message" switches the message to black on grey as before, >> but now there's a superfluous HTML wrapper around what appears to be the >> original raw message. >> >> >> >> -- >> Bill Cole >> b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org >> (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) >> Not Currently Available For Hire >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate misrendering special characters in HTML messages
I’m having same problem, and, sometimes, when I choose “download”, I get “missing image” reports ([screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/LT5uSLU.png)), even when the images have downloaded as attachments. I’ve reported this as bug #3141.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate misrendering special characters in HTML messages
Henry Seiden wrote (at 11:02 AM on Monday, October 24, 2022): John, Trying the same in my version 5922. Embedding in the body of an email does seem to show in my HTML version preview… How do you see it? Mircea Cărtărescu. I did it by turning on the international character set of Romania. Unfortunately, this is inconvenient. Don’t see any easy way around it. Non-slavic languages may be different. Copy/paste doesn’t work in my set up, even with Markdown enabled. You're attempting to answer a different question than was asked. My question concerned MailMate's rendering of incoming messages, NOT about any message I'm trying to send. The issue was correctly responded to by Pete Resnick about 45 minutes ago. John John Cooper wrote (at 10:57 PM on Saturday, October 22, 2022): I subscribe to a newsletter that often includes proper names from non-English languages. When I use Mailmate to view a recent newsletter, I see the following: ![](https://i.ibb.co/r2q9vHZ/MailMate.png) When I view the raw message, I see this: ![](https://i.ibb.co/Fs1LjMq/HTML.png) And when I view the same message in Apple Mail, I see this -- which is clearly what the writer intended me to see. ![](https://i.ibb.co/bWmgKy0/Mail.png) Is there some setting I can tweak to get MailMate to display these characters as intended? The message in question contains the following line: ```Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1``` This seems as if it should be enough to prompt MailMate to display it correctly. The MailMate documentation says: "MailMate can handle almost any kind of character encoding when receiving emails. This includes numerous workarounds for wrongly encoded emails." I'll submit this as a bug in the Issue Tracker. I'm using build 5918. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate misrendering special characters in HTML messages
John, Trying the same in my version 5922. Embedding in the body of an email does seem to show in my HTML version preview… How do you see it? Mircea Cărtărescu. I did it by turning on the international character set of Romania. Unfortunately, this is inconvenient. Don’t see any easy way around it. Non-slavic languages may be different. Copy/paste doesn’t work in my set up, even with Markdown enabled. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 24 Oct 2022, at 12:50, John Cooper wrote: John Cooper wrote (at 10:57 PM on Saturday, October 22, 2022): I subscribe to a newsletter that often includes proper names from non-English languages. When I use Mailmate to view a recent newsletter, I see the following: ![](https://i.ibb.co/r2q9vHZ/MailMate.png) When I view the raw message, I see this: ![](https://i.ibb.co/Fs1LjMq/HTML.png) And when I view the same message in Apple Mail, I see this -- which is clearly what the writer intended me to see. ![](https://i.ibb.co/bWmgKy0/Mail.png) Is there some setting I can tweak to get MailMate to display these characters as intended? The message in question contains the following line: ```Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1``` This seems as if it should be enough to prompt MailMate to display it correctly. The MailMate documentation says: "MailMate can handle almost any kind of character encoding when receiving emails. This includes numerous workarounds for wrongly encoded emails." I'll submit this as a bug in the Issue Tracker. I'm using build 5918. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate misrendering special characters in HTML messages
Pete Resnick via mailmate wrote (at 10:17 AM on Monday, October 24, 2022): > Except it's wrong. The original message should say "charset=utf8", not > "charset=iso-8859-1". The original sender's email program got it wrong. It > would be nice if MailMate had the feature that many web browsers have: A > choice in the "View" menu that lets you force the charset to something other > than what the sending email program (mistakenly) said it was. But this is a > bug on the sending end, not MailMate's. I see that you're correct. Still, from a user's point of view, this is a problem that Apple Mail handles well while MailMate does not, which is unfortunate from a MailMate fan's standpoint. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Anyone else have extra HTML in Raw view?
It looks like an HTML representation of the message headers. I'm also not seeing black on grey for "raw format", but a box around it and colored header names. Something is also goofy about character encodings (though different than what John Cooper described earlier), but I can't figure out exactly what's going on. I think some new feature has gone a bit goofy in 5922. pr -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best On 24 Oct 2022, at 11:21, Bill Cole wrote: Running latest test build r5922, 99% certain it wasn't in r5920. "View->Show Raw Message" switches the message to black on grey as before, but now there's a superfluous HTML wrapper around what appears to be the original raw message. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate misrendering special characters in HTML messages
On 24 Oct 2022, at 11:50, John Cooper wrote: John Cooper wrote (at 10:57 PM on Saturday, October 22, 2022): I subscribe to a newsletter that often includes proper names from non-English languages. When I use Mailmate to view a recent newsletter, I see the following: ![](https://i.ibb.co/r2q9vHZ/MailMate.png) When I view the raw message, I see this: ![](https://i.ibb.co/Fs1LjMq/HTML.png) And when I view the same message in Apple Mail, I see this -- which is clearly what the writer intended me to see. ![](https://i.ibb.co/bWmgKy0/Mail.png) Is there some setting I can tweak to get MailMate to display these characters as intended? The message in question contains the following line: ```Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1``` This seems as if it should be enough to prompt MailMate to display it correctly. Except it's wrong. The original message should say "charset=utf8", not "charset=iso-8859-1". The original sender's email program got it wrong. It would be nice if MailMate had the feature that many web browsers have: A choice in the "View" menu that lets you force the charset to something other than what the sending email program (mistakenly) said it was. But this is a bug on the sending end, not MailMate's. pr -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate misrendering special characters in HTML messages
John Cooper wrote (at 10:57 PM on Saturday, October 22, 2022): I subscribe to a newsletter that often includes proper names from non-English languages. When I use Mailmate to view a recent newsletter, I see the following: ![](https://i.ibb.co/r2q9vHZ/MailMate.png) When I view the raw message, I see this: ![](https://i.ibb.co/Fs1LjMq/HTML.png) And when I view the same message in Apple Mail, I see this -- which is clearly what the writer intended me to see. ![](https://i.ibb.co/bWmgKy0/Mail.png) Is there some setting I can tweak to get MailMate to display these characters as intended? The message in question contains the following line: ```Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1``` This seems as if it should be enough to prompt MailMate to display it correctly. The MailMate documentation says: "MailMate can handle almost any kind of character encoding when receiving emails. This includes numerous workarounds for wrongly encoded emails." I'll submit this as a bug in the Issue Tracker. I'm using build 5918. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Anyone else have extra HTML in Raw view?
Running latest test build r5922, 99% certain it wasn't in r5920. "View->Show Raw Message" switches the message to black on grey as before, but now there's a superfluous HTML wrapper around what appears to be the original raw message. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate