Re: [MlMt] gmail workspaces beginner question
Right. They have disabled IMAP access intentionally. This IT organization no
longer wants to support IMAP. They prefer to rely on the security that Google
provides directly; some feel this is a more secure way to go.
IMAP can be enabled and disabled in the dashboard that is used to control
Google apps.
If this isn't your own domain there isn't much you can do.
- Henry Mensch
On October 28, 2022 16:31:40 Richard Teverson
wrote:
> Hello all,
> I’m a devoted if new Mailmate user. My university IT department is just this
> week telling me that gmail workspaces for education is only allowing the
> following apps to act as email clients:
>
> Gmail App
> IOS Mail App
> macOS Mail App
> Windows Mail App
> Outlook - For Windows using G-sync
> Libraries Digital Reserves
> Microsoft apps & Services
> Shop
> Yahoo!
> Email - Edison Mail
> Amazon Alexa
> Mail Merge with Attac
> Boomerang for Gmail
> Riva for Google Apps
> Mozilla Thunderbird Email
> Less Meeting
>
> Does anyone else know anything about this? Mailmate stopped working on Monday
> for my work email with this error:
>
> 20:27:00 Error: Server response: “A1 NO [ALERT] IMAP access is disabled for
> this mail client for your domain. Please contact your domain administrator
> for questions about this feature. (Failure)”. Command attempted: “A1
> AUTHENTICATE XOAUTH2 ••”.
> 20:27:00 Error: OAUTH2 error is
> {"status":"400","schemes":"Bearer","scope”:”https://mail.google.com}
>
> Mailmate still works with my personal email, and Apple mail with my work
> email. I would be very sad if google has just exiled Mailmate for seemingly
> no reason.
>
> Is anyone else in this position,
> Richard
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Re: [MlMt] R5923 memory leaks on M1 iMac/Ventura
Joseph, I looking further at the memory leak issue, certain emails, particularly yours, open up processes called shown in Activity Monitor>Memory, a process named, “About:’ in the MailMate Group, while I was composing this message, boosting APP MEMORY to 16GB (several apps in addition are included in this total). These don’t close when the email are closed. Counted 14-18 items in addition to the application itself each one consuming 9.0 -76MB of RAM in several threads. Could this be a source of trouble? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 28 Oct 2022, at 17:14, Henry Seiden wrote: Joseph, FYI your message indicates it is OpenPGP (flagged because it couldn’t locate gig command to open it). I do notice in Ventura, MailMate consumes 17 threads @303MB on Activity Monitor - Memory. This doesn’t in any obvious way affect my machine performance, however. Memory and CPU consumption are very low on my MBP 18,3 M1 machine. My app has been open for some time with no degradation. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 28 Oct 2022, at 17:03, Joseph P. Hillenburg wrote: R5923 (as well as at least one of the preceding versions) crashes frequently on my M1 iMac running Ventura. It seems to happen when clicking on certain emails - maybe expanding threads, etc. The symptom seems to be that Mailmate starts consuming all system memory. IE. I have to close-quit it at around 70GB of usage. -JPH ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] R5923 memory leaks on M1 iMac/Ventura
On 28 Oct 2022, at 16:14, Henry Seiden wrote: FYI your message indicates it is OpenPGP (flagged because it couldn’t locate gig command to open it). Henry, that probably means that you don't have OpenPGP properly installed. His message came through validly signed for me. pr -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] R5923 memory leaks on M1 iMac/Ventura
Joseph, FYI your message indicates it is OpenPGP (flagged because it couldn’t locate gig command to open it). I do notice in Ventura, MailMate consumes 17 threads @303MB on Activity Monitor - Memory. This doesn’t in any obvious way affect my machine performance, however. Memory and CPU consumption are very low on my MBP 18,3 M1 machine. My app has been open for some time with no degradation. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 28 Oct 2022, at 17:03, Joseph P. Hillenburg wrote: R5923 (as well as at least one of the preceding versions) crashes frequently on my M1 iMac running Ventura. It seems to happen when clicking on certain emails - maybe expanding threads, etc. The symptom seems to be that Mailmate starts consuming all system memory. IE. I have to close-quit it at around 70GB of usage. -JPH ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] R5923 memory leaks on M1 iMac/Ventura
R5923 (as well as at least one of the preceding versions) crashes frequently on my M1 iMac running Ventura. It seems to happen when clicking on certain emails - maybe expanding threads, etc. The symptom seems to be that Mailmate starts consuming all system memory. IE. I have to close-quit it at around 70GB of usage. -JPH signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] gmail workspaces beginner question
Richard, Since you are on an institutional server service, I’d suspect your IT folks know of what they speak. You probably are wise to pay attention to them on this and try to subvert their intentions. The (advice not to hack your school service account) said, in my case I’m on no such an infrastructure. Even so, I had problems with layout settings for Google Mail using M-M, trvrntly and had to redo my IMAP settings. Gmail with OAUTH2 has been fine since then, for me. Google has changed things but M-M kept up just fine. YMMV (with a separate system in between, it clearly does). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 28 Oct 2022, at 16:31, Richard Teverson wrote: Mailmate still works with my personal email, and Apple mail with my work email. I would be very sad if google has just exiled Mailmate for seemingly no reason. Is anyone else in this position,___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] gmail workspaces beginner question
On Fri 2022-10-28 02:31 PM MDT -0600,
wrote:
Hello all,
I’m a devoted if new Mailmate user. My university IT department is
just this week telling me that gmail workspaces for education is only
allowing the following apps to act as email clients:
...
Does anyone else know anything about this? Mailmate stopped working on
Monday for my work email with this error:
20:27:00 Error: Server response: “A1 NO [ALERT] IMAP access is
disabled for this mail client for your domain. Please contact your
domain administrator for questions about this feature. (Failure)”.
Command attempted: “A1 AUTHENTICATE XOAUTH2
••”.
20:27:00 Error: OAUTH2 error is
{"status":"400","schemes":"Bearer","scope”:”https://mail.google.com}
Mailmate still works with my personal email, and Apple mail with my
work email. I would be very sad if google has just exiled Mailmate for
seemingly no reason.
FWIW, Mailmate still works fine with two gmail accounts for me: one
managed by the organization I work for and another managed by the
university that hosts us. So if Mailmate no longer works with your
university account, I think that may be a decision made by the
university IT department rather than by google.
I certainly hope so, anyway. If my two gmail accounts stop working with
Mailmate, I'm going to be really unhappy about it. But so far, no
problem.
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[MlMt] gmail workspaces beginner question
Hello all,
I’m a devoted if new Mailmate user. My university IT department is just this
week telling me that gmail workspaces for education is only allowing the
following apps to act as email clients:
Gmail App
IOS Mail App
macOS Mail App
Windows Mail App
Outlook - For Windows using G-sync
Libraries Digital Reserves
Microsoft apps & Services
Shop
Yahoo!
Email - Edison Mail
Amazon Alexa
Mail Merge with Attac
Boomerang for Gmail
Riva for Google Apps
Mozilla Thunderbird Email
Less Meeting
Does anyone else know anything about this? Mailmate stopped working on Monday
for my work email with this error:
20:27:00 Error: Server response: “A1 NO [ALERT] IMAP access is disabled for
this mail client for your domain. Please contact your domain administrator for
questions about this feature. (Failure)”. Command attempted: “A1 AUTHENTICATE
XOAUTH2 ••”.
20:27:00 Error: OAUTH2 error is
{"status":"400","schemes":"Bearer","scope”:”https://mail.google.com}
Mailmate still works with my personal email, and Apple mail with my work email.
I would be very sad if google has just exiled Mailmate for seemingly no reason.
Is anyone else in this position,
Richard
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Re: [MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu
Simon, Not sure if you meant how to get to the item within the mailboxes browse bar or how to customize those icon(s). The first is available in the bar by holding down the CONTROL KEY (^) button+icon. You can expose the selection submenu, [see link](https://www.dropbox.com/s/klubhb7ms43sk4x/Screenshot%202022-10-28%20at%2010.55.06.png?dl=0) and details apps you can use to select or edit a symbol. Color selections work similarly in M-M with their submenu commands, [see link](https://www.dropbox.com/s/s7pyse938do8dzs/Screenshot%202022-10-28%20at%2010.54.40.png?dl=0). Simon Kaplan also has added to the original message related to downloading and further customizing the premade icons in Benny’s post. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 26 Oct 2022, at 17:19, Simon Kaplan wrote: In today’s release (5923) Benny says | New: On macOS 11+, the Mailbox menu includes a “Symbol” menu to make it easy to change the mailbox symbol used. | This is very similar to how colors are handled.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu
On 26 Oct 2022, at 17:19, Simon Kaplan wrote: In today’s release (5923) Benny says | New: On macOS 11+, the Mailbox menu includes a “Symbol” menu to make it easy to change the mailbox symbol used. The release notes for 5924 further add: New: Added tip to use the SF Symbols app to browse available symbols Well, my Mac had never heard of the SF Symbols app. It turns out this is a specialized app from Apple that is aimed at Mac developers, so it’s not part of the standard utilities in the OS. It can be downloaded here: https://developer.apple.com/sf-symbols/. Note that, using the Chrome browser, my download got stuck at the end. After waiting a bit, the file stabilized at 243.9 MB. I then manually renamed “Unconfirmed 336157.crdownload” to “SF-Symbols-4.dmg”, and this allowed me to open the .dmg file and run the package. The Safari browser was able to complete the download without any intervention. I must also comment that the search feature in SF Symbols, which Apple has the audacity to brag about in their online video, is not very powerful. In truth, it is dirt simple. Searches for “cash” and “money” turned up zilch, because there are no icons with those words in their name. Naturally, browsing the Commerce category I found icons like banknote, dollarsign, centsign, yensign, eurosign, etc. Compare that to the superb search feature provided by [Font Awesome](https://fontawesome.com/search?m=free=r), which is another icon font system (offering both free and paid access). They put a lot of work into it, and it is indexed by many useful keywords. It will also do “fuzzy” searches, recognizing mis-spellings and related categories. The point is that a massive icon library without a good search system is basically crippled from the start. Glenn P. Parker glenn.par...@comcast.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office 365 / Encrypted Emails
On 26 Oct 2022, at 11:27, Alexandre Takacs wrote: > My understanding those are e-mails with Rights-Managed Email Object Protocol > enabled. Hi Alexandre, yes, that's how I understand it too. > This is a proprietary Microsoft format - your only bet is to use Outlook (not > even sure the Mac version does know about it) or OWA. Ok, as I thought. The person sending me the email accidentally encrypted it. However, I still see an indirect pressure into the market, when more and more companies start using this OL feature and think, it's the standard. The only company I'm aware about that consequently uses PGP or S/MIME encrypted email, is Mercedes Benz. You can submit your PGP key, and from then on, all emails are encrypted back and forth. Very nice. - Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office 365 / Encrypted Emails
On 26 Oct 2022, at 14:45, Bill Cole wrote: > There was no such file attached to your message as delivered to the list. Well, my statement was about how I received the email, not that I intended to send out a customer encrypted email to the mailing list. - Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu
Tariq, They’re no n00bs. Likewise no stupid questions. “Check for Test Builds” can be shown/selected by holding down the ⌥ key when clicking on Mailmate in the menu bar. Selecting that exposed item leads to the download of newest build, in this case today to 5924. It has been mentioned here often and in the Help section, though not prominently featured. I see the latest version. Once installed you will also see a history of updated covering all test versions listing features in each Test Build. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 27 Oct 2022, at 23:16, Tariq Magdon-Ismail wrote: n00b question: Where was r5923 announced and where do I get it from? :-) I only see 5918 on the downloads page. Regards -Tariq___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
