Re: [MlMt] No sound after migration
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Eric, As I said in a previous post, was able to check settings in Sound Settings, switch is on there but MM doesn’t cooperate with Sound settings when sending or receiving. I was able to partially get it fixed (as a test) in a 3ᴿᴰ party app (Sound Source). So conjecturing, something is preventing effects (sounds) playing out on my machine. More likely than not it’s related to a processor patch in M1/M2 that isn’t the same for Intel machines, since Eric confirmed his Intel machine is OK on the same version OS & MM settings on an Intel flavored MBP. Maybe Benny can address it. For me, it’s a minor inconvenience which I’m living with, for now. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Nov 2023, at 11:40, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote: Henry, I wonder if this is your problem too?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
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Eric, Yes, it seems like this may be difference(s) between M1/M2 and Intel machines(Benny). I used the app to redirect MM to my MBP Speakers as a trial and incoming messages now work after a delay, but outgoing messages do not (no woosh!). Curious. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Nov 2023, at 11:34, Eric Sharakan wrote: Yeah, seems like it (assuming sounds outside of MM are working correctly for you). Though it works for me on MacOS 14.1.1 and MM r5998, an an Intel MBP. -Eric On 20 Nov 2023, at 10:37, Henry Seiden wrote: Eric, My sound settings are set that way (in Settings>Sound>Play User interface sound effects”) and still no sound for either incoming or outgoing, in MacOS 14.1.1. I assume then that is a MM thing? Just for fun, I tried turning the switch there off and then on again without success. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Nov 2023, at 10:07, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote: I believe you need to enable "Play user interface sound effects" in the System Settings->Sound preference pane. I don't like needing to do that, and mentioned so to Benny a long time ago. -Eric On 20 Nov 2023, at 9:57, Pierre Igot wrote: Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office365 not working anymore
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Re: [MlMt] Office365 not working anymore
Hello, On 20 Nov 2023, at 18:49, Alex Abdo wrote: Angelo, thank you so much for the suggestion. I gave that a try but still ended up with the same issue. Here is the log from the activity viewer: It’s been quite a while since I used a Outlook/Office365 account with MailMate, but besides removing the account and the keys, I *seem* to remember that I also had to remove the ‘connected’ application from the Outlook/Office365 settings for MailMate. But as you’ve not even succeeded in connecting once since the move from the self-hosted Exchange to Office365, I doubt it’s there. I think Raza is correct in assuming that they’ve just blocked access except certain mail clients. I’m guessing they won’t let you create an ‘app password’ in the Office365 settings? --- With regards, Angelo Machils___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Office365 not working anymore
Looks like that's something your site admins have to fix:Office365 IMAP Access: User is Authenticated but not Connectedstackoverflow.comThey need to allow your account access via IMAP.Am 20.11.2023 um 17:50 schrieb Alex Abdo :Angelo, thank you so much for the suggestion. I gave that a try but still ended up with the same issue. Here is the log from the activity viewer:16:46:52 Clearing connection to outlook.office365.com
16:46:54 Ready to run action (type: 1000, retry count: 1)
16:46:54 Clearing connection to outlook.office365.com
16:46:54 Trying to connect to outlook.office365.com on port 993 (CFNetwork) without STARTTLS (required)
16:46:54 Resolved hostname (outlook.office365.com).
16:46:54 Prepare secure connection...
16:46:54 Successful connection.
16:46:54 Initiating secure connection...
16:46:54 Returned (4)...
16:46:54 Protocol version: kTLSProtocol12
16:46:54 S: * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready. [XXX]
16:46:54 C: A0 CAPABILITY
16:46:54 S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2 SASL-IR UIDPLUS ID UNSELECT CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+
16:46:54 S: A0 OK CAPABILITY completed.
16:46:54 Retrieving OAuth2 access token
16:46:54 Access token found in keychain
16:46:54 Access token expiration time: 2023-11-20 18:09:45 +
16:46:54 C: A1 AUTHENTICATE XOAUTH2 ••
16:46:58 S: A1 OK AUTHENTICATE completed.
16:46:58 C: A2 CAPABILITY
16:46:58 S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2 SASL-IR UIDPLUS MOVE ID UNSELECT CLIENTACCESSRULES CLIENTNETWORKPRESENCELOCATION BACKENDAUTHENTICATE CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+
16:46:58 S: A2 OK CAPABILITY completed.
16:46:58 C: A3 ID ("name" "MailMate" "version" "r5937" "vendor" "Freron Software" "contact" "mm-imap...@freron.com")
16:46:58 S: A3 BAD User is authenticated but not connected.
16:46:58 Warning: Detected Exchange IMAP server response state bug. Trying to work around it by interpreting it as a temporary connection issue.
16:46:58 Error code: 1004
16:46:58 Failed action (1000). Reset observed read/write timeouts: 8/8
16:46:58 Handling reply
16:46:58 Handling request
16:46:58 Trying to disconnect nicely (8)...
16:46:58 C: A4 LOGOUT
16:46:58 S: * BYE Microsoft Exchange Server IMAP4 server signing off.
16:46:58 S: A4 OK LOGOUT completed.On Nov 19, 2023, at 1:02 AM, Angelo Machils wrote:
Hello,On 17 Nov 2023, at 18:55, Alex Abdo wrote:
I’m writing to see if anyone has advice for how to troubleshoot Mailmate’s compatibility with Office365.
I had this happen in the past several times. Office365 (cloud) would work fine and then stop working suddenly. The only thing I found that would work was to completely remove the account in MailMate. Also, I had to remove the key(s) in the Apple Keychain application. Then I set it up again and it kept working (for a while).
With regards,Angelo Machils
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Re: [MlMt] Office365 not working anymore
Hi Angelo,
Might this be because the server admins have configured only a subset of
mail clients to connect - for example Outlook?
I can’t use MailMate with my corporate Outlook365 service because it
throws up a HTTP based authentication/ask the admin for permission box
and the admin won’t let me connect using MailMate.
Raza
On 20 Nov 2023, at 16:49, Alex Abdo wrote:
Angelo, thank you so much for the suggestion. I gave that a try but
still ended up with the same issue. Here is the log from the activity
viewer:
16:46:52 Clearing connection to outlook.office365.com
16:46:54 Ready to run action (type: 1000, retry count: 1)
16:46:54 Clearing connection to outlook.office365.com
16:46:54 Trying to connect to outlook.office365.com on port 993
(CFNetwork) without STARTTLS (required)
16:46:54 Resolved hostname (outlook.office365.com).
16:46:54 Prepare secure connection...
16:46:54 Successful connection.
16:46:54 Initiating secure connection...
16:46:54 Returned (4)...
16:46:54 Protocol version: kTLSProtocol12
16:46:54 S: * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready.
[XXX]
16:46:54 C: A0 CAPABILITY
16:46:54 S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2
SASL-IR UIDPLUS ID UNSELECT CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+
16:46:54 S: A0 OK CAPABILITY completed.
16:46:54 Retrieving OAuth2 access token
16:46:54 Access token found in keychain
16:46:54 Access token expiration time: 2023-11-20 18:09:45 +
16:46:54 C: A1 AUTHENTICATE XOAUTH2 ••
16:46:58 S: A1 OK AUTHENTICATE completed.
16:46:58 C: A2 CAPABILITY
16:46:58 S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2
SASL-IR UIDPLUS MOVE ID UNSELECT CLIENTACCESSRULES
CLIENTNETWORKPRESENCELOCATION BACKENDAUTHENTICATE CHILDREN IDLE
NAMESPACE LITERAL+
16:46:58 S: A2 OK CAPABILITY completed.
16:46:58 C: A3 ID ("name" "MailMate" "version" "r5937" "vendor"
"Freron Software" "contact" "mm-imap...@freron.com")
16:46:58 S: A3 BAD User is authenticated but not connected.
16:46:58 Warning: Detected Exchange IMAP server response state bug.
Trying to work around it by interpreting it as a temporary connection
issue.
16:46:58 Error code: 1004
16:46:58 Failed action (1000). Reset observed read/write timeouts: 8/8
16:46:58 Handling reply
16:46:58 Handling request
16:46:58 Trying to disconnect nicely (8)...
16:46:58 C: A4 LOGOUT
16:46:58 S: * BYE Microsoft Exchange Server IMAP4 server signing off.
16:46:58 S: A4 OK LOGOUT completed.
On Nov 19, 2023, at 1:02 AM, Angelo Machils
wrote:
Hello,
On 17 Nov 2023, at 18:55, Alex Abdo wrote:
I’m writing to see if anyone has advice for how to troubleshoot
Mailmate’s compatibility with Office365.
I had this happen in the past several times. Office365 (cloud) would
work fine and then stop working suddenly. The only thing I found that
would work was to completely remove the account in MailMate. Also, I
had to remove the key(s) in the Apple Keychain application. Then I
set it up again and it kept working (for a while).
With regards,
Angelo Machils
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Re: [MlMt] Office365 not working anymore
Angelo, thank you so much for the suggestion. I gave that a try but still ended
up with the same issue. Here is the log from the activity viewer:
16:46:52 Clearing connection to outlook.office365.com
16:46:54 Ready to run action (type: 1000, retry count: 1)
16:46:54 Clearing connection to outlook.office365.com
16:46:54 Trying to connect to outlook.office365.com on port 993 (CFNetwork)
without STARTTLS (required)
16:46:54 Resolved hostname (outlook.office365.com).
16:46:54 Prepare secure connection...
16:46:54 Successful connection.
16:46:54 Initiating secure connection...
16:46:54 Returned (4)...
16:46:54 Protocol version: kTLSProtocol12
16:46:54 S: * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready. [XXX]
16:46:54 C: A0 CAPABILITY
16:46:54 S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2 SASL-IR
UIDPLUS ID UNSELECT CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+
16:46:54 S: A0 OK CAPABILITY completed.
16:46:54 Retrieving OAuth2 access token
16:46:54 Access token found in keychain
16:46:54 Access token expiration time: 2023-11-20 18:09:45 +
16:46:54 C: A1 AUTHENTICATE XOAUTH2 ••
16:46:58 S: A1 OK AUTHENTICATE completed.
16:46:58 C: A2 CAPABILITY
16:46:58 S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2 SASL-IR
UIDPLUS MOVE ID UNSELECT CLIENTACCESSRULES CLIENTNETWORKPRESENCELOCATION
BACKENDAUTHENTICATE CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+
16:46:58 S: A2 OK CAPABILITY completed.
16:46:58 C: A3 ID ("name" "MailMate" "version" "r5937" "vendor" "Freron
Software" "contact" "mm-imap...@freron.com")
16:46:58 S: A3 BAD User is authenticated but not connected.
16:46:58 Warning: Detected Exchange IMAP server response state bug. Trying to
work around it by interpreting it as a temporary connection issue.
16:46:58 Error code: 1004
16:46:58 Failed action (1000). Reset observed read/write timeouts: 8/8
16:46:58 Handling reply
16:46:58 Handling request
16:46:58 Trying to disconnect nicely (8)...
16:46:58 C: A4 LOGOUT
16:46:58 S: * BYE Microsoft Exchange Server IMAP4 server signing off.
16:46:58 S: A4 OK LOGOUT completed.
> On Nov 19, 2023, at 1:02 AM, Angelo Machils wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On 17 Nov 2023, at 18:55, Alex Abdo wrote:
>
> I’m writing to see if anyone has advice for how to troubleshoot Mailmate’s
> compatibility with Office365.
>
> I had this happen in the past several times. Office365 (cloud) would work
> fine and then stop working suddenly. The only thing I found that would work
> was to completely remove the account in MailMate. Also, I had to remove the
> key(s) in the Apple Keychain application. Then I set it up again and it kept
> working (for a while).
>
> With regards,
>
> Angelo Machils
>
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Re: [MlMt] No sound after migration
On 20 Nov 2023, at 10:23, Pierre Igot wrote: Thanks to Erik Sharakan for his prompt answer. I actually realized this myself even before I saw his reply that notifications needed to be enabled in System Settings. Everything is fine now. Ahh, so that's something else to check, in addition to enabling "Play user interface sound effects"! Henry, I wonder if this is your problem too? -Eric I don’t REMEMBER seeing MM asking me to enable notifications after I installed it. Either it did and I missed it, or it somehow didn’t. Oh well. As always, we have Apple’s security theatre to thank for this. Thanks again. Pierre On 20 Nov 2023, at 10:57, Pierre Igot wrote: Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] No sound after migration
I found an app that may help identify whether MM is connecting to or playing back sounds and/or enable it if it isn’t connecting to Mac properly. Demo available to try… https://rogueamoeba.com/soundsource/buy.php Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Nov 2023, at 9:57, Pierre Igot wrote: Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
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Yeah, seems like it (assuming sounds outside of MM are working correctly for you). Though it works for me on MacOS 14.1.1 and MM r5998, an an Intel MBP. -Eric On 20 Nov 2023, at 10:37, Henry Seiden wrote: Eric, My sound settings are set that way (in Settings>Sound>Play User interface sound effects”) and still no sound for either incoming or outgoing, in MacOS 14.1.1. I assume then that is a MM thing? Just for fun, I tried turning the switch there off and then on again without success. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Nov 2023, at 10:07, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote: I believe you need to enable "Play user interface sound effects" in the System Settings->Sound preference pane. I don't like needing to do that, and mentioned so to Benny a long time ago. -Eric On 20 Nov 2023, at 9:57, Pierre Igot wrote: Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] No sound after migration
Eric, My sound settings are set that way (in Settings>Sound>Play User interface sound effects”) and still no sound for either incoming or outgoing, in MacOS 14.1.1. I assume then that is a MM thing? Just for fun, I tried turning the switch there off and then on again without success. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Nov 2023, at 10:07, Eric Sharakan via mailmate wrote: I believe you need to enable "Play user interface sound effects" in the System Settings->Sound preference pane. I don't like needing to do that, and mentioned so to Benny a long time ago. -Eric On 20 Nov 2023, at 9:57, Pierre Igot wrote: Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] No sound after migration
Thanks to Erik Sharakan for his prompt answer. I actually realized this myself even before I saw his reply that notifications needed to be enabled in System Settings. Everything is fine now. I don’t REMEMBER seeing MM asking me to enable notifications after I installed it. Either it did and I missed it, or it somehow didn’t. Oh well. As always, we have Apple’s security theatre to thank for this. Thanks again. Pierre On 20 Nov 2023, at 10:57, Pierre Igot wrote: > Hi, > > I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. > For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find > that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't > play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound > for incoming messages. > > Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, > there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, > it plays just fine. > > Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, > there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, > it plays just fine. > > So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play > fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while > using MailMate. > > I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know > what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the > appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific > sound output for sound effects). > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > TIA > > Pierre > > > -- > LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - > www.latext.com > BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community > FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | > Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Fwd: No sound after migration
Pierre, Belay my last remark. I do not hear the sound similar to your description, haven’t noticed it before but you are correct. I checked my settings and they are like yours in MM on the version 5998. Not hearing incoming mail sounds (likewise set in Settings to your settings, in Counters) in MM. Other parts of the setting (E.G., counting incoming messages do work fine, though). My sound of choice for incoming mail is the Apple preset, “Basso”. No incoming mail sounds work in actual incoming mail for me either. I was confused by the other machine sounds (MacMini running Mail on the same system coming from the other room. It has worked on other previous versions as you noted. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com Forwarded message: From: Henry Seiden To: MailMate Users Subject: Re: [MlMt] No sound after migration Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:06:52 -0500 Hi Pierre, In r5998 on my MBP2021 M1Pto with OS 14.1.1, the “Sent” mail sound (“Woosh”) works for me when sending this message… Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Nov 2023, at 9:57, Pierre Igot wrote: Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] No sound after migration
I believe you need to enable "Play user interface sound effects" in the System Settings->Sound preference pane. I don't like needing to do that, and mentioned so to Benny a long time ago. -Eric On 20 Nov 2023, at 9:57, Pierre Igot wrote: Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] No sound after migration
Hi Pierre, In r5998 on my MBP2021 M1Pto with OS 14.1.1, the “Sent” mail sound (“Woosh”) works for me when sending this message… Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Nov 2023, at 9:57, Pierre Igot wrote: Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] No sound after migration
Hi, I have had to do a clean install of macOS (14.1) and to reinstall MailMate. For the most part, everything is working fine. HOWEVER, since the move I find that I am unable to get MailMate to play ANY SOUNDS whatsoever. It doesn't play the whoosh sound for messages being sent, and it doesn't play any sound for incoming messages. Yet when I go to MailMate's preferences and check under Counters > Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. Similarly, in MailMate's preferences, under Composer > Sent Message Sound, there is a sound selected there and if I select it again in the popup menu, it plays just fine. So it's not like there cannot be ANY sounds coming from MailMate. They play fine in the preference panes. But they don't play (or are silenced) while using MailMate. I have reproduced this with both r5937 and the latest, r5998. I don't know what else to try. Sounds play fine elsewhere in macOS, through the appropriate channels (general sound output for general sounds and specific sound output for sound effects). Anyone have any suggestions? TIA Pierre -- LATEXT: Literature, music and visuals / Littérature, musique et graphisme - www.latext.com BETALOGUE: Blog - www.betalogue.com | Mastodon: @betalogue@toot.community FAUX AMIS : Site sur les faux amis anglais-français - www.fauxamis.fr | Mastodon: @pierre_igot@mastodon.social ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
