Re: [MlMt] Reinstalling MailMate after a Mac OS Erase and Install
On 9 Feb 2022, at 15:16, Alexandre Takacs wrote: If you want to restore from a backup then there are quite a few files you will need to put back at their original location - tbh I don’t have a list and would be interested in having one :) See [How to transfer MailMate Settings to another computer](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/rebuild). Kind regards — Florian___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Are any of my posts getting through?
On 6 Feb 2022, at 15:29, Henry Seiden wrote: I’ve sent in several posts that don’t seem to get published. Why? There is also a [searchable archive](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/) of this list where you can check just to be sure. Kind regards — Florian___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] CPU around 60% with r5852
On 9 Dec 2021, at 18:17, Bill Cole wrote: > On 2021-12-09 at 10:43:18 UTC-0500 (Thu, 09 Dec 2021 16:43:18 +0100) > Florian Heidenreich > is rumored to have said: > >> I'm observing high CPU usage of around ~60% CPU on a MacBook Air M1 under >> Big Sur 11.6.1 when doing nothing with MailMate r5852. >> >> My observations so far: >> >> - does not happen when starting MailMate >> - starts after sending an email or reading a couple of messages from my inbox >> - stops and goes to 0% when hiding MailMate via Cmd+H, reappears on unhide >> - something related to updating the view when it's actually not always >> needed? >> >> Would be interesting to know if it's only happening for me or if it's a more >> common problem. > > I run into MM chewing up CPU occasionally after moving a message into Trash > or Junk. When this happens, the Activity Viewer shows one IMAP session > trapped in a very fast loop of FETCH and NOOP commands. I have not tried > hide/unhide, but offline/online of the source breaks the loop. I've had a > ticket open on this for quite a long time. > > When you have this problem, have you checked the Activity Viewer? Yes, I've checked the Activity Viewer in MailMate: everything is IDLE there. Thanks! Kind regards — Florian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] CPU around 60% with r5852
I'm observing high CPU usage of around ~60% CPU on a MacBook Air M1 under Big Sur 11.6.1 when doing nothing with MailMate r5852. My observations so far: - does not happen when starting MailMate - starts after sending an email or reading a couple of messages from my inbox - stops and goes to 0% when hiding MailMate via Cmd+H, reappears on unhide - something related to updating the view when it's actually not always needed? Would be interesting to know if it's only happening for me or if it's a more common problem. Kind regards — Florian P.S. I've tried to create a ticket, but the system automatically marks it as spam.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate release notes
I actually like it and admire the amount of work that is put into the release notes. It truly shows how much Benny is caring. I also like the grouping into different aspects of the app, so that I can, e.g., skip the OpenPGP part (which I currently don't use). From what I observe, the restructuring only takes place when a new official beta is released. For those who are not using the alpha builds, this would be the first changelog that is shown after like a year or so. I actually took the time to go through this and learned about aspects I missed during the alpha cycle. I also think that any changes that are relevant for the alpha channel are still explicitly associated with a concrete release. IIRC, this was the case for the previous alpha. Official releases are usually accompanied by a blog post, giving a birds-eye view on the changes of the new release. Admittedly, this will be also difficult to be kept short :) But it's about time and I'm happy about the progress. Kind regards — Florian On 8 Dec 2021, at 14:12, Eric Sharakan wrote: > Hi, as someone who tends to download the latest test release regularly, I'm > finding the restructuring of release notes not at all helpful. First, it's > nigh impossible to learn what's changed in each test release. Second, the new > outline format reminds me more of a functional spec than release notes. > > Finally, the length is simply unmanageable. There's no way I can scroll > through all that to see what's actually changed. I know a lot has changed > since the last public release, but I fear even users not on test releases are > going to be overwhelmed by these release notes as written when the next > public release occurs. > > Thanks. > > -Eric > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Markdown confusion with line breaks between paragraphs
This seems to be working. Thank you! Kind regards — Florian On 18 Nov 2021, at 14:24, Eric Sharakan wrote: It was a bit of an arduous trek, and in the end, Benny's not sure exactly what cured it, but here's what seemed to do it: - In terminal, run this: ``` touch /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Bundles/MailMate.mmBundle/Filters/Inline\ CSS.mmFilter ``` - reboot Good luck! -Eric On 18 Nov 2021, at 8:10, Florian Heidenreich wrote: That's interesting. I have "Inline CSS (with Premailer)" selected at *Preferences → Composer*. The other option is "Scoped Stylesheet". Can you share how you've made the "Inline CSS (Juice)" option available for you? Kind regards — Florian On 18 Nov 2021, at 13:40, Eric Sharakan wrote: Benny and I have been working together to try to figure this one out. What ended up fixing it for me was switching to the "Inline CSS (Juice)" option as the Embedding Method in the Composer preferences pane (after we struggled to figure out why I couldn't see that option for a while). I previously was using "Inline CSS (with Premailer)". -Eric On 18 Nov 2021, at 3:37, Florian Heidenreich wrote: I've noticed this too and the only way to circumvent this and go back into normal editing mode is to remove the last newline after the quoted text. By that, quoted text that appeared with a gray background changes into text with normal background but blue text font. Kind regards — Florian On 16 Nov 2021, at 20:54, Eric Sharakan wrote: [Running r5846 on macOS 11.6.1] Hi Benny, I know others have mentioned this, but it's become quite frustrating to me that sometimes I need to enter two consecutive newlines when composing with Markdown to get a visible line break between paragraphs. For me, it only seems to happen when replying to some specific emails, so I suspect it's related to the content/format in those emails. I also seem to have found an even more pathological symptom: in one specific case, no amount of consecutive newlines puts a line break between paragraphs. In this one case, it seems to happen when there's text between triple backticks in my reply. I'll send details (including the full email I'm trying to compose) to Benny privately. Any chance this can be looked into? Thanks. -Eric ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Markdown confusion with line breaks between paragraphs
That's interesting. I have "Inline CSS (with Premailer)" selected at *Preferences → Composer*. The other option is "Scoped Stylesheet". Can you share how you've made the "Inline CSS (Juice)" option available for you? Kind regards — Florian On 18 Nov 2021, at 13:40, Eric Sharakan wrote: Benny and I have been working together to try to figure this one out. What ended up fixing it for me was switching to the "Inline CSS (Juice)" option as the Embedding Method in the Composer preferences pane (after we struggled to figure out why I couldn't see that option for a while). I previously was using "Inline CSS (with Premailer)". -Eric On 18 Nov 2021, at 3:37, Florian Heidenreich wrote: I've noticed this too and the only way to circumvent this and go back into normal editing mode is to remove the last newline after the quoted text. By that, quoted text that appeared with a gray background changes into text with normal background but blue text font. Kind regards — Florian On 16 Nov 2021, at 20:54, Eric Sharakan wrote: [Running r5846 on macOS 11.6.1] Hi Benny, I know others have mentioned this, but it's become quite frustrating to me that sometimes I need to enter two consecutive newlines when composing with Markdown to get a visible line break between paragraphs. For me, it only seems to happen when replying to some specific emails, so I suspect it's related to the content/format in those emails. I also seem to have found an even more pathological symptom: in one specific case, no amount of consecutive newlines puts a line break between paragraphs. In this one case, it seems to happen when there's text between triple backticks in my reply. I'll send details (including the full email I'm trying to compose) to Benny privately. Any chance this can be looked into? Thanks. -Eric ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Markdown confusion with line breaks between paragraphs
I've noticed this too and the only way to circumvent this and go back into normal editing mode is to remove the last newline after the quoted text. By that, quoted text that appeared with a gray background changes into text with normal background but blue text font. Kind regards — Florian On 16 Nov 2021, at 20:54, Eric Sharakan wrote: > [Running r5846 on macOS 11.6.1] > > Hi Benny, I know others have mentioned this, but it's become quite > frustrating to me that sometimes I need to enter two consecutive newlines > when composing with Markdown to get a visible line break between paragraphs. > For me, it only seems to happen when replying to some specific emails, so I > suspect it's related to the content/format in those emails. > > I also seem to have found an even more pathological symptom: in one specific > case, no amount of consecutive newlines puts a line break between paragraphs. > In this one case, it seems to happen when there's text between triple > backticks in my reply. I'll send details (including the full email I'm > trying to compose) to Benny privately. > > Any chance this can be looked into? > > Thanks. > > -Eric > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] R5813/Big Sur: Forward only includes headers
This has most likely been fixed with r5814 (current is r5815). > Fixed: Previous release broke forwarding. Kind regards — Florian On 18 Jun 2021, at 16:40, Joseph P. Hillenburg wrote: > I opened a bug tracker issue (2839) on this, but forwarding an item using > build R5813 on Big Sur (M1), the forwarded email only includes the headers. > This behavior was not present in 5807. It doesn't seem to matter whether the > source item is on iCloud or Google Mail. > > -JPH > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Total message count in window title
It’s back to normal with r5802 :) Thanks Benny! Kind regards — Florian On 3 May 2021, at 17:01, Eric Sharakan wrote: > I'm seeing the same (and reported it to Benny using the 'Send Feedback...' > menu item). > > It seems to be showing the number of selected messages. I agree it's not > very useful, and want the total number of messages displayed as before. > > -Eric > > On 3 May 2021, at 10:39, Florian Heidenreich wrote: > >> Starting with r5799, MailMate’s window title doesn’t show the total number >> of messages of the current mailbox anymore. Instead, the number of selected >> messages is shown for me (often alternating between *1 message* and *0 >> messages*). >> >> For me, this is not particular useful information and I’d prefer to go back >> to the previous behavior. Anyone knows how to get there? >> >> Kind regards >> — Florian___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Total message count in window title
Starting with r5799, MailMate’s window title doesn’t show the total number of messages of the current mailbox anymore. Instead, the number of selected messages is shown for me (often alternating between *1 message* and *0 messages*). For me, this is not particular useful information and I’d prefer to go back to the previous behavior. Anyone knows how to get there? Kind regards — Florian___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Changes in mail list scrolling behavior with v1.13 (5655)
Hi again, I think this was a false alarm - sorry to all who already tried to reproduce it. I’ve set changed the sorting in the meanwhile and set it to „Date Received“ again and now it seems to work like before. Kind regards — Florian On 3 Oct 2019, at 14:04, Florian Heidenreich wrote: Hi all, I’ve noticed a slight but hard to ignore change in the mail list scrolling behavior with v1.13 (5655). I have MailMate configured in the way that newest messages appear at the bottom of the mail list. Now, whenever a new mail arrives, it doesn’t automatically scroll down to show the new email. Instead, I need to manually scroll down to see the newly arrived email which is one additional manual step and also doesn’t visually indicate in the list that a new mail has arrived. Is there some hidden or unhidden preference to change the scrolling behavior to automatically scroll? Kind regards — Florian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Changes in mail list scrolling behavior with v1.13 (5655)
Hi all, I’ve noticed a slight but hard to ignore change in the mail list scrolling behavior with v1.13 (5655). I have MailMate configured in the way that newest messages appear at the bottom of the mail list. Now, whenever a new mail arrives, it doesn’t automatically scroll down to show the new email. Instead, I need to manually scroll down to see the newly arrived email which is one additional manual step and also doesn’t visually indicate in the list that a new mail has arrived. Is there some hidden or unhidden preference to change the scrolling behavior to automatically scroll? Kind regards — Florian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mail-Templates?
Hi Matthias, On 11 Feb 2019, at 12:03, Matthias Schmidt wrote: is there a possibility to create templates and snippets for e-mails? Maybe I can introduce you to a different approach that I’m using? It’s based on expanding short sequences of text into pre-defined templates. For example, you would enter „mft“ (an abbreviation for „my favorite template“ that I’ve just made up) and it would expand to the more complex template you’ve associated with this template. There is builtin functionality for that in macOS (see „Settings > Keyboard > Text“). Or, what I’m using, there is [Alfred](https://www.alfredapp.com/), which comes with support for _Snippets_ that also support placeholders like {date:-MM-dd} or {cursor}. Kind regards — Florian___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Question on different pasteboard contents at drag'n'drop
On 31 Jan 2019, at 11:33, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: For some emails MailMate creates items like - public.url-name - 'urln' - public.utf8-plain-text - NSStringPboardType but for others it doesn’t. Unfortunately, I don’t see the pattern. Can anyone shed some light into this? This depends on the existence of Message-ID and Subject headers. If you have a non-sensitive message for which it fails then you can send it to me (using “Help ▸ Send Feedback”). Alternatively just send the headers which can be seen when hitting ⌥⌘U. Thank you, this is exactly the case: the recent culprit had no Message-ID. I do suspect there might be a bug, because emails without Message-ID headers are rare. Maybe MailMate has trouble parsing certain types of Message-ID headers... Since I now know where to look, I’ll let you know if I notice an email which I think should be linked correctly. So far, I don’t suspect that there is a bug. Kind regards — Florian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Question on different pasteboard contents at drag'n'drop
Hi, I’m often keeping track of specific conversations by creating a link to a specific email in another program by dragging the email to this program. This often works as expected and creates a message://%3c… link in the other program. But about the same time, it doesn’t work as expected and I always thought, it has something to do with the target program. However, I’ve finally took the time to inspect the „Drag Clipboard“ contents using the [ClipboardViewer](https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/samplecode/ClipboardViewer/Introduction/Intro.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/DTS40008825-Intro-DontLinkElementID_2) example app from Apple. For some emails MailMate creates items like - public.url-name - 'urln' - public.utf8-plain-text - NSStringPboardType but for others it doesn’t. Unfortunately, I don’t see the pattern. Can anyone shed some light into this? Kind regards — Florian___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Installing gpg2 via homebrew?
On 24 Jan 2019, at 5:15, leo wrote: The Help pages say I should install it via the GPGTools, but whenever possible I try to install command line tools via [Homebrew](https://brew.sh/). `brew` lists a gpg2 formula as installable – is this save to use for MailMate? Do I have to hint to MailMate somehow where the tool is installed? I haven’t tried it myself, but there is an answer on this from Benny [here](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg04178.html). – Florian___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] "Line Height Delta" doesn't seem to work anymore in Mojave
Hi Sam, there is a ticket on the MailMate tracker on that: https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/2112-mailbox-labels-are-not-vertically-centered Can you change to -7 and see if it makes any difference? Kind regards — Florian On 27 Sep 2018, at 19:45, Sam Hathaway wrote: Hi Benny, I use a Line Height Delta of -4 on the mailbox/sources sidebar to cram more into the available vertical space. I just upgraded to Mojave and it looks like this setting is now being ignored. I can set it to any value I like and the line spacing shows up as if it was set to zero. I’m running MailMate “Version 1.12 (5523)”. Any fix or advice? Thanks. -sam ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] URL addresses
Hi Eric, this only happens with HTML messages, where the displayed URL text differs from the actual URL that’s triggered when clicking on the text. An example that shows the detection of mismatching URLs [https://freron.com](https://freron.com?utm_source=list_medium=email_campaign=URLDetectionExample) Another example where the URLs are matching [https://freron.com](https://freron.com) It’s a pretty cool feature :) Kind regards — Florian On 28 Mar 2018, at 16:50, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, when I roll over URLs in incoming mail, MM displays the full address. Sometimes that address is highlighted in red. It's not clear to me what triggers that, as I have very similar links in a message, but one will display the address in red and the other won't. What does that red highlight indicate? -Eric ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Unique submailboxes based on regular expression
Thanks, editing the *.plist file worked without problems for me :) I’m aware of ${subject.blob}, but I had subject lines like „[General Name] [Category] Topic“ and was interested in creating submailboxes for „Category“. I ended up using ``` { parsers = { discourse-categories = { header = "subject"; specifierRegex = '\[(.*?)\] \[(.*?)\] (.*)'; specifierCaptures = { 1 = { specifier = "discourse-name"; }; 2 = { specifier = "discourse-category"; }; 3 = { specifier = "discourse-subject"; }; }; }; }; } ``` Kind regards — Florian On 21 Mar 2018, at 22:35, lists.freron@nietzold.com wrote: i also tried the regex and it result in submailbox for each mail :( i also don’t know how to solve it. i expected that all the same results are combined in sub mailboxes with the same result. but as a workaround i found a solution for subjects like `“[abc] subject line“` where you like to group by `[abc]` this you can get when you set in [x] Submailbox for each unique value of: Subject > Blob Mailbox name format: ${subject.blob} i hope this workaround helps you without editing *.plist files On 9 Mar 2018, at 13:16, Florian Heidenreich wrote: Hi, I’m trying to create a smart mailbox with submailboxes for each result of a regular expression on the mail subject. I’m using a regexp format string [1] for the mailbox name format which works and produces the correct names. However, it seems not possible to make the submailboxes unique in the sense, that mails are grouped into one submailbox if the regexp produces the same result. As an example, I’m using this Mailbox name format: `${subject.body/\[(.*?)\].*/$1/}` All mails where the subject starts with `[Bug Reports]` should appear in the `Bug Reports` submailbox. Instead, one `Bug Reports` submailbox is created for each mail. Is there a way to create unique submailboxes based on regular expressions? Kind regards — Florian [1] https://manual.mailmate-app.com/format_string_syntax ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Unique submailboxes based on regular expression
On 9 Mar 2018, at 13:53, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 9 Mar 2018, at 13:16, Florian Heidenreich wrote: Is there a way to create unique submailboxes based on regular expressions? Yes, but it's a bit more complicated. I believe you can find help in [this thread](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate%40lists.freron.com/msg02220.html). Let me know if you have trouble making it work. Thanks a lot! Worked like a charm - really admiring your work here. Kind regards — Florian___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Unique submailboxes based on regular expression
Hi, I’m trying to create a smart mailbox with submailboxes for each result of a regular expression on the mail subject. I’m using a regexp format string [1] for the mailbox name format which works and produces the correct names. However, it seems not possible to make the submailboxes unique in the sense, that mails are grouped into one submailbox if the regexp produces the same result. As an example, I’m using this Mailbox name format: `${subject.body/\[(.*?)\].*/$1/}` All mails where the subject starts with `[Bug Reports]` should appear in the `Bug Reports` submailbox. Instead, one `Bug Reports` submailbox is created for each mail. Is there a way to create unique submailboxes based on regular expressions? Kind regards — Florian [1] https://manual.mailmate-app.com/format_string_syntax ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate