Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-25 Thread aisrael
FWIW, the address I used to contact Rich in 2018 was : 
m...@goodhumans.net


Alain

On 24 Jun 2022, at 22:04, Henry Seiden wrote:


Stephen,

Any idea what is going on in Preside? I sent in a support request to 
them about an issue with Google Mail (gmail).


I tried it with my Google (gmail) account and it was a bust. Preside 
refused to accept the OAUTH login info from Google and quit at that 
step in their instructions. Also would not import existing accounts in 
any way.


So, I’m kinda done there.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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On 24 Jun 2022, at 15:18, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:

The one thing that I sorely miss in Preside is PGP signing and 
encryption support. Other than that, it‘s really, really powerful. 
You won‘t get any closer to MailMate with an email client on a 
mobile device.


On 24. Jun 2022 at 18:29:42 CEST, aisrael  
wrote:


Interesting, I missed this piece. I am a heavy user of Preside 
(never
got used to Altamail), which I also find the closest thing to 
Mailmate
on an iPhone. In particular its Search function is pretty 
impressive. In
addition, its developer, Rich Waters, answers queries very quickly. 
He

mentioned he is a also a single-person ‘team’, and he interacted
with Benny in the past.

Alain

PS : I had problems with Preside because of my Exchange server, but
Exchange is problematic with all email clients, including Mailmate.


On 24 Jun 2022, at 18:04, bw...@wraytx.com wrote:


On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Any Plans to make it in the future?



Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the 
past.


A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members of
this mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS 
alternatives

you might want to consider:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2020/05/battle-ios-email-heavyweights/__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!vojUqoRbxNL3VX5VWytKI9gpO1EfKk9o58qudYCOti2MxC2xIwJ3NSPRLC04M1rnaJBMlYUp4H4ZvL0$


Best wishes,

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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread henare
Perhaps ask the Preside people? I feel pretty sure that they’re not here.

 

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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 16:05
To: Stephan Kleiber ; MailMate Users 

Subject: Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

 

Stephen,

Any idea what is going on in Preside? I sent in a support request to them about 
an issue with Google Mail (gmail).

I tried it with my Google (gmail) account and it was a bust. Preside refused to 
accept the OAUTH login info from Google and quit at that step in their 
instructions. Also would not import existing accounts in any way.

So, I’m kinda done there.

Respectfully, 
Henry Seiden 
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On 24 Jun 2022, at 15:18, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:

The one thing that I sorely miss in Preside is PGP signing and encryption 
support. Other than that, it‘s really, really powerful. You won‘t get any 
closer to MailMate with an email client on a mobile device.

On 24. Jun 2022 at 18:29:42 CEST, aisrael alain.isr...@pasteur.fr 
<mailto:alain.isr...@pasteur.fr>  wrote:

Interesting, I missed this piece. I am a heavy user of Preside (never
got used to Altamail), which I also find the closest thing to Mailmate
on an iPhone. In particular its Search function is pretty impressive. In
addition, its developer, Rich Waters, answers queries very quickly. He
mentioned he is a also a single-person ‘team’, and he interacted
with Benny in the past.

Alain

PS : I had problems with Preside because of my Exchange server, but
Exchange is problematic with all email clients, including Mailmate.

On 24 Jun 2022, at 18:04, bw...@wraytx.com <mailto:bw...@wraytx.com>  wrote:

On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Any Plans to make it in the future?

Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the past.

A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members of
this mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS alternatives
you might want to consider:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2020/05/battle-ios-email-heavyweights/__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!vojUqoRbxNL3VX5VWytKI9gpO1EfKk9o58qudYCOti2MxC2xIwJ3NSPRLC04M1rnaJBMlYUp4H4ZvL0$
 
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread Edward Thome

Preside is working well for me with GMail.
It really is an astoundingly good piece of software…almost 
beyond-human-seeming in what it is able to do…the most MailMate-like 
of any iOS app.


Ed

On 24 Jun 2022, at 15:16, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:


Hi Henry,

honestly, I don’t know. Like Alain said, “them” is basically 
just Rich. He usually answers support requests fairly quickly and 
thoroughly, which is my experience as well, so I’m not sure why he 
didn’t/couldn’t help you with this. Maybe just try writing another 
support mail?


Gmail is not my primary mail account, but I have it set up in Preside 
and never had any problems with it. How did you try to import your 
existing account? Do you mean you had it previously set up in iOS 
Mail?


Cheers
Stephan

On 24 Jun 2022, at 22:04, Henry Seiden wrote:


Stephen,

Any idea what is going on in Preside? I sent in a support request to 
them about an issue with Google Mail (gmail).


I tried it with my Google (gmail) account and it was a bust. Preside 
refused to accept the OAUTH login info from Google and quit at that 
step in their instructions. Also would not import existing accounts 
in any way.


So, I’m kinda done there.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 24 Jun 2022, at 15:18, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:

The one thing that I sorely miss in Preside is PGP signing and 
encryption support. Other than that, it‘s really, really powerful. 
You won‘t get any closer to MailMate with an email client on a 
mobile device.


On 24. Jun 2022 at 18:29:42 CEST, aisrael  
wrote:


Interesting, I missed this piece. I am a heavy user of Preside 
(never
got used to Altamail), which I also find the closest thing to 
Mailmate
on an iPhone. In particular its Search function is pretty 
impressive. In
addition, its developer, Rich Waters, answers queries very quickly. 
He
mentioned he is a also a single-person ‘team’, and he 
interacted

with Benny in the past.

Alain

PS : I had problems with Preside because of my Exchange server, but
Exchange is problematic with all email clients, including Mailmate.


On 24 Jun 2022, at 18:04, bw...@wraytx.com wrote:


On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Any Plans to make it in the future?



Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the 
past.


A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members 
of
this mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS 
alternatives

you might want to consider:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2020/05/battle-ios-email-heavyweights/__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!vojUqoRbxNL3VX5VWytKI9gpO1EfKk9o58qudYCOti2MxC2xIwJ3NSPRLC04M1rnaJBMlYUp4H4ZvL0$


Best wishes,

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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread Stephan Kleiber via mailmate

Hi Henry,

honestly, I don’t know. Like Alain said, “them” is basically just 
Rich. He usually answers support requests fairly quickly and thoroughly, 
which is my experience as well, so I’m not sure why he 
didn’t/couldn’t help you with this. Maybe just try writing another 
support mail?


Gmail is not my primary mail account, but I have it set up in Preside 
and never had any problems with it. How did you try to import your 
existing account? Do you mean you had it previously set up in iOS Mail?


Cheers
Stephan

On 24 Jun 2022, at 22:04, Henry Seiden wrote:


Stephen,

Any idea what is going on in Preside? I sent in a support request to 
them about an issue with Google Mail (gmail).


I tried it with my Google (gmail) account and it was a bust. Preside 
refused to accept the OAUTH login info from Google and quit at that 
step in their instructions. Also would not import existing accounts in 
any way.


So, I’m kinda done there.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 24 Jun 2022, at 15:18, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:

The one thing that I sorely miss in Preside is PGP signing and 
encryption support. Other than that, it‘s really, really powerful. 
You won‘t get any closer to MailMate with an email client on a 
mobile device.


On 24. Jun 2022 at 18:29:42 CEST, aisrael  
wrote:


Interesting, I missed this piece. I am a heavy user of Preside 
(never
got used to Altamail), which I also find the closest thing to 
Mailmate
on an iPhone. In particular its Search function is pretty 
impressive. In
addition, its developer, Rich Waters, answers queries very quickly. 
He

mentioned he is a also a single-person ‘team’, and he interacted
with Benny in the past.

Alain

PS : I had problems with Preside because of my Exchange server, but
Exchange is problematic with all email clients, including Mailmate.


On 24 Jun 2022, at 18:04, bw...@wraytx.com wrote:


On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Any Plans to make it in the future?



Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the 
past.


A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members of
this mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS 
alternatives

you might want to consider:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2020/05/battle-ios-email-heavyweights/__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!vojUqoRbxNL3VX5VWytKI9gpO1EfKk9o58qudYCOti2MxC2xIwJ3NSPRLC04M1rnaJBMlYUp4H4ZvL0$


Best wishes,

Bryce Wray
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread Henry Seiden

Stephen,

Any idea what is going on in Preside? I sent in a support request to 
them about an issue with Google Mail (gmail).


I tried it with my Google (gmail) account and it was a bust. Preside 
refused to accept the OAUTH login info from Google and quit at that step 
in their instructions. Also would not import existing accounts in any 
way.


So, I’m kinda done there.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 24 Jun 2022, at 15:18, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:

The one thing that I sorely miss in Preside is PGP signing and 
encryption support. Other than that, it‘s really, really powerful. 
You won‘t get any closer to MailMate with an email client on a 
mobile device.


On 24. Jun 2022 at 18:29:42 CEST, aisrael  
wrote:



Interesting, I missed this piece. I am a heavy user of Preside (never
got used to Altamail), which I also find the closest thing to 
Mailmate
on an iPhone. In particular its Search function is pretty impressive. 
In
addition, its developer, Rich Waters, answers queries very quickly. 
He

mentioned he is a also a single-person ‘team’, and he interacted
with Benny in the past.

Alain

PS : I had problems with Preside because of my Exchange server, but
Exchange is problematic with all email clients, including Mailmate.


On 24 Jun 2022, at 18:04, bw...@wraytx.com wrote:


On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Any Plans to make it in the future?



Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the 
past.


A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members of
this mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS 
alternatives

you might want to consider:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2020/05/battle-ios-email-heavyweights/__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!vojUqoRbxNL3VX5VWytKI9gpO1EfKk9o58qudYCOti2MxC2xIwJ3NSPRLC04M1rnaJBMlYUp4H4ZvL0$


Best wishes,

Bryce Wray
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread Stephan Kleiber via mailmate
The one thing that I sorely miss in Preside is PGP signing and encryption 
support. Other than that, it‘s really, really powerful. You won‘t get any 
closer to MailMate with an email client on a mobile device.

On 24. Jun 2022 at 18:29:42 CEST, aisrael  wrote:

> Interesting, I missed this piece. I am a heavy user of Preside (never 
> got used to Altamail), which I also find the closest thing to Mailmate 
> on an iPhone. In particular its Search function is pretty impressive. In 
> addition, its developer, Rich Waters, answers queries very quickly. He 
> mentioned he is a also a single-person ‘team’, and he interacted 
> with Benny in the past.
> 
> Alain
> 
> PS : I had problems with Preside because of my Exchange server, but 
> Exchange is problematic with all email clients, including Mailmate.
> 
> 
> On 24 Jun 2022, at 18:04, bw...@wraytx.com wrote:
> 
> >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:
> >>
> >> Any Plans to make it in the future?
> >
> >
> > Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the past.
> >
> > A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members of 
> > this mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS alternatives 
> > you might want to consider:
> >
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2020/05/battle-ios-email-heavyweights/__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!vojUqoRbxNL3VX5VWytKI9gpO1EfKk9o58qudYCOti2MxC2xIwJ3NSPRLC04M1rnaJBMlYUp4H4ZvL0$
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Bryce Wray
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread i...@techworkspro.com
Benny, 

Happy to test MM r5900 on Ventura for you with my Intel MBP2019. It’s installed 
on an external drive. 

Sorry to hear there’s no iPhone version. Mail is pretty good, though I’m sure 
yours would better. 

Henry
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C/T (954) 253-4125
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Techworks Pro


> On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00, Michael Nietzold  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Von meinem iDingens gesendet...
> 
>>> Am 24.06.2022 um 15:49 schrieb Benny Kjær Nielsen :
>>> 
>>> On 24 Jun 2022, at 14:56, Henry Seiden wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there a version for iPad/iPhone?
>> 
>> Sorry, but no.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Any Plans to make it in the future?
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread aisrael
Interesting, I missed this piece. I am a heavy user of Preside (never 
got used to Altamail), which I also find the closest thing to Mailmate 
on an iPhone. In particular its Search function is pretty impressive. In 
addition, its developer, Rich Waters, answers queries very quickly. He 
mentioned he is a also a single-person ‘team’, and he interacted 
with Benny in the past.


Alain

PS : I had problems with Preside because of my Exchange server, but 
Exchange is problematic with all email clients, including Mailmate.



On 24 Jun 2022, at 18:04, bw...@wraytx.com wrote:


On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Any Plans to make it in the future?



Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the past.

A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members of 
this mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS alternatives 
you might want to consider:


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Best wishes,

Bryce Wray
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread bwray
> On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:
> 
> Any Plans to make it in the future?


Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the past.

A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members of this 
mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS alternatives you might 
want to consider:

https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2020/05/battle-ios-email-heavyweights/


Best wishes,

Bryce Wray
https://www.brycewray.com

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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread Michael Nietzold


Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

> Am 24.06.2022 um 15:49 schrieb Benny Kjær Nielsen :
> 
> On 24 Jun 2022, at 14:56, Henry Seiden wrote:
> 
>> Is there a version for iPad/iPhone?
> 
> Sorry, but no.
> 
> 

Any Plans to make it in the future?
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 24 Jun 2022, at 14:56, Henry Seiden wrote:

> Soon to experiment with it on Ventura Public Beta 2.

Let me know if you have any issues (maybe off the mailing list). I cannot 
easily test this myself because my development machine is a MacBook Pro 2015 
which is not on the list of supported machines :(

> Is there a version for iPad/iPhone?

Sorry, but no.

-- 
Benny
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

2022-06-24 Thread Henry Seiden

Lisa,

With you on that, after installing (migrating my settings), playing with 
r5900 a bit and its new developments. Tried so far on macOS Monterey 
12.4(21F79).


Soon to experiment with it on Ventura Public Beta 2.

Is there a version for iPad/iPhone?

Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 24 Jun 2022, at 7:16, MM_Arc wrote:

COL  GREAT !! the possibility of NO pagebreaks between 
messages !


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