Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 7 Sep 2016, at 10:40, Robert Brenstein wrote: May be this command should refer to showing msg content pane. After all, that pane is also shown when no message is selected in the list. An alternative could be to define another layout that can be selected as an alternative to the three pane layout: a two pane layout. A three pane layout without the msg content pane is a three pane layout by name only after all. Yes, I like this 2-pane or 3-pane idea. John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 07.09.2016 at 10:14 Uhr -0400 John D. Muccigrosso apparently wrote: If that "Show message view" command is related to this, could it get changed to "Show message preview"? John I agree with Benny that it is a matter of perspective of a given user whether this is view or preview of a message. This might have to do with previous mail clients, as Benny suggested, but also with the size of the monitor/window and the incoming volume of mail. May be this command should refer to showing msg content pane. After all, that pane is also shown when no message is selected in the list. An alternative could be to define another layout that can be selected as an alternative to the three pane layout: a two pane layout. A three pane layout without the msg content pane is a three pane layout by name only after all. Robert ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:59, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: That is the default, but the other posters were discussing the message preview in the main window. I don't really consider it a preview myself, but that's because I almost never use the standalone message window. (I think it all depends on the user's previous email client history. I'm not stating that one is better than the other.) Clearly there is some kind of bug related to saving the state of a hidden view. I tried to reproduce that without luck, but I'll give it another go. (Let me know if one of you find reproducible steps.) If that “Show message view” command is related to this, could it get changed to “Show message preview”? John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 7 Sep 2016, at 14:16, Jason Davies wrote: I think this is governed by the Preference setting in Composer, 2nd pane "Display" (Always/when generating html/Never) It seems to default to the html one. That is the default, but the other posters were discussing the message preview in the main window. I don't really consider it a preview myself, but that's because I almost never use the standalone message window. (I think it all depends on the user's previous email client history. I'm not stating that one is better than the other.) Clearly there is some kind of bug related to saving the state of a hidden view. I tried to reproduce that without luck, but I'll give it another go. (Let me know if one of you find reproducible steps.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
I think this is governed by the Preference setting in Composer, 2nd pane "Display" (Always/when generating html/Never) It seems to default to the html one. On 6 Sep 2016, at 16:01, Robert Brenstein wrote: On 06.09.2016 at 10:42 Uhr -0400 John D. Muccigrosso apparently wrote: Once again the Preview pane has silently - and nearly invisibly - opened itself at the bottom of my inbox, making messages go "read" when I simply click on them. I have expanded and now shrunk it, but why does this keep happening? Maybe there should just be a preference to keep it closed (or better, not present) instead of having to close it to make it stop being active. I know Mail.app does it this way too, but I don't think it's smart there either. John I second that. Robert ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 6 Sep 2016, at 14:39, Richard Rettke wrote: On 6 Sep 2016, at 11:47, Sherif Soliman she...@ssoliman.com wrote: Do you mean something different than View > Layout > Hide Message View? Huh? Really confused. My View > Layout doesn't have hide or show anything. It only has Show Tips and Standard. You have to have the main window in front, with no message window in front of it. The menu changes depending on which kind of window is in front. John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 06.09.2016 at 13:26 Uhr -0400 John D. Muccigrosso apparently wrote: On 6 Sep 2016, at 12:47, Sherif Soliman wrote: Do you mean something different than View > Layout > Hide Message View? Is that what that command does? Is "Message View" what MailMate calls "Preview"? If it is, great (though I would rename it). Oddly, those "hide" commands all stay "hide" even when they should say "show". That's confusing. John Just like John, I have seen the message view pane suddenly reappear for no apparent reason and so small that I did not see it for a while. Hiding it through the menu command or with the mouse action should produce the same effect. A preference setting through the defaults command would presumably enforce the closed state at each launch more reliably. Robert ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 6 Sep 2016, at 11:26, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 6 Sep 2016, at 12:47, Sherif Soliman wrote: Do you mean something different than View > Layout > Hide Message View? Is that what that command does? Is “Message View” what MailMate calls “Preview”? If it is, great (though I would rename it). Oddly, those “hide” commands all stay “hide” even when they should say “show”. Thatʻs confusing. FWIW, mine toggle between Hide and Show after I select them. Version 1.9.4 (5234) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 6 Sep 2016, at 12:47, Sherif Soliman wrote: Do you mean something different than View > Layout > Hide Message View? Is that what that command does? Is “Message View” what MailMate calls “Preview”? If it is, great (though I would rename it). Oddly, those “hide” commands all stay “hide” even when they should say “show”. Thatʻs confusing. John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 6 Sep 2016, at 8:01, Robert Brenstein wrote: On 06.09.2016 at 10:42 Uhr -0400 John D. Muccigrosso apparently wrote: Once again the Preview pane has silently - and nearly invisibly - opened itself at the bottom of my inbox, making messages go "read" when I simply click on them. I have expanded and now shrunk it, but why does this keep happening? Maybe there should just be a preference to keep it closed (or better, not present) instead of having to close it to make it stop being active. I know Mail.app does it this way too, but I don't think it's smart there either. John I second that. Do you mean something different than View > Layout > Hide Message View? Sherif ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Preview again
On 06.09.2016 at 10:42 Uhr -0400 John D. Muccigrosso apparently wrote: Once again the Preview pane has silently - and nearly invisibly - opened itself at the bottom of my inbox, making messages go "read" when I simply click on them. I have expanded and now shrunk it, but why does this keep happening? Maybe there should just be a preference to keep it closed (or better, not present) instead of having to close it to make it stop being active. I know Mail.app does it this way too, but I don't think it's smart there either. John I second that. Robert ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
