Re: [MlMt] R5757 is pretty buggy => I see wrong encoding

2021-01-19 Thread Jolin Warren

On 19 Jan 2021, at 16:28, Charlie Clark wrote:
I wonder how many of the various messenger systems will still be with 
us in 50 years…


IRC?? 
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Re: [MlMt] R5757 is pretty buggy => I see wrong encoding

2021-01-19 Thread Charlie Clark

On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:08, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote:

Everybody supports UTF8 in the mail body, but mail headers are a 
different issue altogether.


True, the headers need to be legible as demanded by the protocol, back 
in the days when the internet only seemed to need ASCII. The body is a 
different matter and has almost always required some form of encoding, 
though this has much to do with images, etc. as it does with character 
pages.


Still, that SMTP is still working nearly 50 years on, shows how 
important protocols and interoperability are: I wonder how many of the 
various messenger systems will still be with us in 50 years…


Charlie

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Re: [MlMt] R5757 is pretty buggy => I see wrong encoding

2021-01-19 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:04, Robert M. Münch wrote:

> On 19 Jan 2021, at 13:35, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote:
>
> Yes. As the manual says: “Don’t enable this if you don’t really know what you 
> are doing. Review your outgoing messages (⌥⌘U) and make sure both server and 
> recipients can handle it.”
>
> Yes, read it… but OK, my fault. I really thought that all major systems used 
> by companies support this UTF8 stuff these days… well, lesson learned.

Everybody supports UTF8 in the mail body, but mail headers are a different 
issue altogether.
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Re: [MlMt] R5757 is pretty buggy => I see wrong encoding

2021-01-19 Thread Robert M. Münch
On 19 Jan 2021, at 13:35, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote:

> Yes. As the manual says: “Don’t enable this if you don’t really know what you 
> are doing. Review your outgoing messages (⌥⌘U) and make sure both server and 
> recipients can handle it.”

Yes, read it… but OK, my fault. I really thought that all major systems used by 
companies support this UTF8 stuff these days… well, lesson learned.

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Re: [MlMt] R5757 is pretty buggy => I see wrong encoding

2021-01-19 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
On 19 Jan 2021, at 11:55, Robert M. Münch wrote:

> Hi, I’m using 5757 since I abandoned Beta-v2 but fight a lot of annoying 
> little bugs.
>
> I now see that my name is screwed up like:
>
> To: Robert M. Münch 
>
> for many replies I get. That wasn’t the case in the past. Any idea what this 
> could be?
>
> Since switching to R5757 I used: defaults write com.freron.MailMate 
> MmSMTPUTF8Enabled -bool YES could this be the root cause?

Yes. As the manual says:

“Don’t enable this if you don’t really know what you are doing. Review your 
outgoing messages (⌥⌘U) and make sure both server and recipients can handle it.”

When people’s replies to you are broken, that means some server cannot handle 
it. Your From: header arrived here UTF8-encoded even though our servers do not 
announce 8BITMIME or SMTPUTF8. So at the very least the MTA delivering the 
message to us behaved wrong.

Cheers,
Sebastian
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[MlMt] R5757 is pretty buggy => I see wrong encoding

2021-01-19 Thread Robert M . Münch
Hi, I’m using 5757 since I abandoned Beta-v2 but fight a lot of annoying little 
bugs.

I now see that my name is screwed up like:

`To: Robert M. Münch `

for many replies I get. That wasn’t the case in the past. Any idea what this 
could be?

Since switching to R5757 I used: `defaults write com.freron.MailMate 
MmSMTPUTF8Enabled -bool YES` could this be the root cause?

Viele Grüsse.

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