Re: [MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install
Hi Benny, Took you up on that one, updated today. I hadn’t had any issues on r6010, but trying to stay that way made me do it. Tried to work with Claudio on his issues, but one step at a time didn’t seem to be what he wanted. He had a pretty ancient version. Glad you stepped in. So far so good. My uses are pretty simple so I hadn’t run into the issues you were working on, FYI. Will post on the users Mailing list that status of 6014 working well for me, FWIW. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 18 Dec 2023, at 10:18, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: You might also want to try the latest upload of MailMate. It appears to be quite stable. Feedback is welcome: MailMate_r6014.tbz___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install
On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:26, Claudio Ruiz wrote: I got a new computer and installed Mailmate as usual. After connecting the email accounts I have on Fastmail, I realized that when I Archive an email it’s gone from the Inbox in Mailmate, but nothing happens on the server. When I try to Trash a message, is gone on my Inbox in Mailmate, but is still there on the inbox on the server. First, expand all mailboxes in the account under Sources in the mailbox list. Make sure everything is online. If there has been any persistent problems, some individual mailboxes might have been taken offline (preventing full synchronization). If this doesn't help, write me via “Help > Send Feedback”. I’m using Version 1.13.2 (5673) You might also want to try the latest upload of MailMate. It appears to be quite stable. Feedback is welcome: [MailMate_r6014.tbz](https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r6014.tbz) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install
Claudio, Is the moved to Trash message still findable in the All Messages smart folder? - -Please excuse the tttapping errors... Sent from my iPhoneC/T (954) 253-4125Henry M. SeidenTechworks ProOn Dec 17, 2023, at 11:36, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hi Henry, thanks for your attention on this. I already checked that and it’s all OK. Actually, I have a work account on the same provider and that account works perfectly. I don’t really know what else to debug to understand what is happening. –– Claudio Ruiz On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:33, Henry Seiden wrote: Claudia, Thanks for filling the details. Think I got you now. Maybe it would be easier, then, to have a look at your source mailbox assignments in MM on each of your IMAP accounts to be sure that the folders for Trash and Archive are designated as such in MM. Inbox and outbox are usually defaults and I guess are working as expected. In my case I assign a yearly folder for archive purposes, so the common folder in MM Called Archive can gather all together in that Smart Folder by default. I do nothing further to achieve these common folders in MM: InBox, Sent Messages, Junk, Deleted Messages. Yours probably have been somehow reset for those two folders in several accounts, at least. Have a look in your Sources list of mailboxes - click the ‘>’ and select one mailbox (probably either Archive, Trash/Deleted messages or what ever mailbox you choose to be those function on the account). Right click (CTL + click) the name of the mailbox to change, scroll in the popup list to Mailbox Type. Make sure the checkmark is set to Archive if not then click it. Rinse and repeat for the appropriate mailboxes in each account. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Dec 2023, at 10:09, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hello! It’s a MacBook Air M2 (Sonoma 14.2). I didn’t migrate anything but my Mailboxes.plist. I’m OK with having a fresh start, but I can’t find why neither archiving or trashing works. I’m not sure there’s something to do with versions. I upgraded it to Version 1.14 (5937) but the same happens. I’m using IMAP such as in my office computer (where I also use Mailmate with no issue) and in my old laptop. It’s really strange, because I’m doing a fresh install from scratch. –– Claudio Ruiz On 17 Dec 2023, at 9:34, Henry Seiden wrote: Hi Claudio, You didn’t mention what computer model or OS you now have. Nor whether you migrated all your settings in MailMate. You do seem to have a quite early version. The most current version of Malmate is 1.14 (in 2011) and the latest, most stable release is r5673, according to the release notes. In the developer’s app history that is a long time ago. Sure you have right? Many aspects of the app have been updated in 1.14 and subsequent build, too numerous to mention here. Maybe others have experience with your version. So that question is open. I do recommend you migrate your settings when upgrading to a new computer instead of whatever process you did use (restore from backup, copy, etc.). Since that may no longer be feasible, you may need to reinstall new setting for each IMAP account. Are you still using POP on your server accounts? Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Dec 2023, at 6:26, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hi folks, I got a new computer and installed Mailmate as usual. After connecting the email accounts I have on Fastmail, I realized that when I Archive an email it’s gone from the Inbox in Mailmate, but nothing happens on the server. When I try to Trash a message, is gone on my Inbox in Mailmate, but is still there on the inbox on the server. Basically, it doesn’t sync. What is weird is that on my old notebook, everything works flawlessly using a mirrored configuration. I’m using Version 1.13.2 (5673) Best, C –– Claudio Ruiz mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___mailmate mailing listmailmate@lists.freron.comhttps://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install
Hi Henry, thanks for your attention on this. I already checked that and it’s all OK. Actually, I have a work account on the same provider and that account works perfectly. I don’t really know what else to debug to understand what is happening. –– Claudio Ruiz On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:33, Henry Seiden wrote: Claudia, Thanks for filling the details. Think I got you now. Maybe it would be easier, then, to have a look at your source mailbox assignments in MM on each of your IMAP accounts to be sure that the folders for Trash and Archive are designated as such in MM. Inbox and outbox are usually defaults and I guess are working as expected. In my case I assign a yearly folder for archive purposes, so the common folder in MM Called Archive can gather all together in that Smart Folder by default. I do nothing further to achieve these common folders in MM: InBox, Sent Messages, Junk, Deleted Messages. Yours probably have been somehow reset for those two folders in several accounts, at least. Have a look in your Sources list of mailboxes - click the ‘>’ and select one mailbox (probably either Archive, Trash/Deleted messages or what ever mailbox you choose to be those function on the account). Right click (CTL + click) the name of the mailbox to change, scroll in the popup list to Mailbox Type. Make sure the checkmark is set to Archive if not then click it. Rinse and repeat for the appropriate mailboxes in each account. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Dec 2023, at 10:09, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hello! It’s a MacBook Air M2 (Sonoma 14.2). I didn’t migrate anything but my Mailboxes.plist. I’m OK with having a fresh start, but I can’t find why neither archiving or trashing works. I’m not sure there’s something to do with versions. I upgraded it to Version 1.14 (5937) but the same happens. I’m using IMAP such as in my office computer (where I also use Mailmate with no issue) and in my old laptop. It’s really strange, because I’m doing a fresh install from scratch. –– Claudio Ruiz On 17 Dec 2023, at 9:34, Henry Seiden wrote: Hi Claudio, You didn’t mention what computer model or OS you now have. Nor whether you migrated all your settings in MailMate. You do seem to have a quite early version. The most current version of Malmate is 1.14 (in 2011) and the latest, most stable release is r5673, according to the release notes. In the developer’s app history that is a long time ago. Sure you have right? Many aspects of the app have been updated in 1.14 and subsequent build, too numerous to mention here. Maybe others have experience with your version. So that question is open. I do recommend you **migrate your settings** when upgrading to a new computer instead of whatever process you did use (restore from backup, copy, etc.). Since that may no longer be feasible, you may need to reinstall new setting for each IMAP account. Are you still using POP on your server accounts? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Dec 2023, at 6:26, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hi folks, I got a new computer and installed Mailmate as usual. After connecting the email accounts I have on Fastmail, I realized that when I Archive an email it’s gone from the Inbox in Mailmate, but nothing happens on the server. When I try to Trash a message, is gone on my Inbox in Mailmate, but is still there on the inbox on the server. Basically, it doesn’t sync. What is weird is that on my old notebook, everything works flawlessly using a mirrored configuration. I’m using Version 1.13.2 (5673) Best, C –– Claudio Ruiz ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install
Claudia, Thanks for filling the details. Think I got you now. Maybe it would be easier, then, to have a look at your source mailbox assignments in MM on each of your IMAP accounts to be sure that the folders for Trash and Archive are designated as such in MM. Inbox and outbox are usually defaults and I guess are working as expected. In my case I assign a yearly folder for archive purposes, so the common folder in MM Called Archive can gather all together in that Smart Folder by default. I do nothing further to achieve these common folders in MM: InBox, Sent Messages, Junk, Deleted Messages. Yours probably have been somehow reset for those two folders in several accounts, at least. Have a look in your Sources list of mailboxes - click the ‘>’ and select one mailbox (probably either Archive, Trash/Deleted messages or what ever mailbox you choose to be those function on the account). Right click (CTL + click) the name of the mailbox to change, scroll in the popup list to Mailbox Type. Make sure the checkmark is set to Archive if not then click it. Rinse and repeat for the appropriate mailboxes in each account. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Dec 2023, at 10:09, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hello! It’s a MacBook Air M2 (Sonoma 14.2). I didn’t migrate anything but my Mailboxes.plist. I’m OK with having a fresh start, but I can’t find why neither archiving or trashing works. I’m not sure there’s something to do with versions. I upgraded it to Version 1.14 (5937) but the same happens. I’m using IMAP such as in my office computer (where I also use Mailmate with no issue) and in my old laptop. It’s really strange, because I’m doing a fresh install from scratch. –– Claudio Ruiz On 17 Dec 2023, at 9:34, Henry Seiden wrote: Hi Claudio, You didn’t mention what computer model or OS you now have. Nor whether you migrated all your settings in MailMate. You do seem to have a quite early version. The most current version of Malmate is 1.14 (in 2011) and the latest, most stable release is r5673, according to the release notes. In the developer’s app history that is a long time ago. Sure you have right? Many aspects of the app have been updated in 1.14 and subsequent build, too numerous to mention here. Maybe others have experience with your version. So that question is open. I do recommend you **migrate your settings** when upgrading to a new computer instead of whatever process you did use (restore from backup, copy, etc.). Since that may no longer be feasible, you may need to reinstall new setting for each IMAP account. Are you still using POP on your server accounts? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Dec 2023, at 6:26, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hi folks, I got a new computer and installed Mailmate as usual. After connecting the email accounts I have on Fastmail, I realized that when I Archive an email it’s gone from the Inbox in Mailmate, but nothing happens on the server. When I try to Trash a message, is gone on my Inbox in Mailmate, but is still there on the inbox on the server. Basically, it doesn’t sync. What is weird is that on my old notebook, everything works flawlessly using a mirrored configuration. I’m using Version 1.13.2 (5673) Best, C –– Claudio Ruiz ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install
Hello! It’s a MacBook Air M2 (Sonoma 14.2). I didn’t migrate anything but my Mailboxes.plist. I’m OK with having a fresh start, but I can’t find why neither archiving or trashing works. I’m not sure there’s something to do with versions. I upgraded it to Version 1.14 (5937) but the same happens. I’m using IMAP such as in my office computer (where I also use Mailmate with no issue) and in my old laptop. It’s really strange, because I’m doing a fresh install from scratch. –– Claudio Ruiz On 17 Dec 2023, at 9:34, Henry Seiden wrote: Hi Claudio, You didn’t mention what computer model or OS you now have. Nor whether you migrated all your settings in MailMate. You do seem to have a quite early version. The most current version of Malmate is 1.14 (in 2011) and the latest, most stable release is r5673, according to the release notes. In the developer’s app history that is a long time ago. Sure you have right? Many aspects of the app have been updated in 1.14 and subsequent build, too numerous to mention here. Maybe others have experience with your version. So that question is open. I do recommend you **migrate your settings** when upgrading to a new computer instead of whatever process you did use (restore from backup, copy, etc.). Since that may no longer be feasible, you may need to reinstall new setting for each IMAP account. Are you still using POP on your server accounts? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Dec 2023, at 6:26, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hi folks, I got a new computer and installed Mailmate as usual. After connecting the email accounts I have on Fastmail, I realized that when I Archive an email it’s gone from the Inbox in Mailmate, but nothing happens on the server. When I try to Trash a message, is gone on my Inbox in Mailmate, but is still there on the inbox on the server. Basically, it doesn’t sync. What is weird is that on my old notebook, everything works flawlessly using a mirrored configuration. I’m using Version 1.13.2 (5673) Best, C –– Claudio Ruiz ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install
Hi Claudio, You didn’t mention what computer model or OS you now have. Nor whether you migrated all your settings in MailMate. You do seem to have a quite early version. The most current version of Malmate is 1.14 (in 2011) and the latest, most stable release is r5673, according to the release notes. In the developer’s app history that is a long time ago. Sure you have right? Many aspects of the app have been updated in 1.14 and subsequent build, too numerous to mention here. Maybe others have experience with your version. So that question is open. I do recommend you **migrate your settings** when upgrading to a new computer instead of whatever process you did use (restore from backup, copy, etc.). Since that may no longer be feasible, you may need to reinstall new setting for each IMAP account. Are you still using POP on your server accounts? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 17 Dec 2023, at 6:26, Claudio Ruiz wrote: Hi folks, I got a new computer and installed Mailmate as usual. After connecting the email accounts I have on Fastmail, I realized that when I Archive an email it’s gone from the Inbox in Mailmate, but nothing happens on the server. When I try to Trash a message, is gone on my Inbox in Mailmate, but is still there on the inbox on the server. Basically, it doesn’t sync. What is weird is that on my old notebook, everything works flawlessly using a mirrored configuration. I’m using Version 1.13.2 (5673) Best, C –– Claudio Ruiz ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Archive and Trash not syncing on a fresh install
Hi folks, I got a new computer and installed Mailmate as usual. After connecting the email accounts I have on Fastmail, I realized that when I Archive an email it’s gone from the Inbox in Mailmate, but nothing happens on the server. When I try to Trash a message, is gone on my Inbox in Mailmate, but is still there on the inbox on the server. Basically, it doesn’t sync. What is weird is that on my old notebook, everything works flawlessly using a mirrored configuration. I’m using Version 1.13.2 (5673) Best, C –– Claudio Ruiz ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] archive??
Comcast/Xfinity has a scheme which may work for you. But, I have no experiance with it. https://cordcuttersnews.com/can-you-keep-your-comcast-email-account-after-you-cancel-your-tv-internet-service/ Meanwhile IMapSync is extremely useful in these senarios: https://imapsync.lamiral.info/ I’ve used it to move all my mail from one vendor to another. The documentation is a gold mine of information about all the rough edges around this kind of activity. Just to pick one example: the throttles that various vendors have and how to avoid triggering them. - ben On 22 Sep 2023, at 0:44, Jo wrote: I'm planning on (finally) dumping Comcast/Xfinity and I'm wondering what is gonna happen with all that comcast mail that I have saved? Will it go away when I no longer have the @comcast.net email?? If I archive it will it stay? I'd like to have access to previous online orders in case I want to look something up. I have a smart mailbox that collects all my order-related mail. Can I archive that to save it? If not, what options do I have? Jo ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ You could say I'd lost my belief in our politicians They all seemed like game show hosts to me. ~~ Sting ~~ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] archive??
Jo, If you save / archive your email locally and successfully regardless of the application used (MM, Mail, etc.), and confirm that the .eml file AND attachments are stored locally, you should retain them locally. I recommend you try it with one or more of those emails using MM to be sure you’ve save it appropriately into a location you’re able to get to and see correctly on your machine. I have saved off my email and attachments yearly and after that rarely need to access them further, but I know where they are. Hope this helps. Respectfully, Henry Seiden, Founder - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Sep 2023, at 1:44, Jo wrote: If I archive it will it stay? I'd like to have access to previous online orders in case I want to look something up. I have a smart mailbox that collects all my order-related mail. Can I archive that to save it? If not, what options do I have?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] archive??
I'm planning on (finally) dumping Comcast/Xfinity and I'm wondering what is gonna happen with all that comcast mail that I have saved? Will it go away when I no longer have the @comcast.net email?? If I archive it will it stay? I'd like to have access to previous online orders in case I want to look something up. I have a smart mailbox that collects all my order-related mail. Can I archive that to save it? If not, what options do I have? Jo ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ You could say I'd lost my belief in our politicians They all seemed like game show hosts to me. ~~ Sting ~~ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive oddities
Eric, Right click on that mailbox to open the contextual menu, then under "Mailbox Type", select Archive Ah! That seems to have worked … Thanks! Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive oddities
Ian, open the triangle on the main mailbox for your Runbox IMAP account. You should find all your mailboxes there, including the "Archive" mailbox that MM (for whatever reason) has decided is not the actual archive mailbox. Right click on that mailbox to open the contextual menu, then under "Mailbox Type", select Archive. That should fix it. As to how MM got in that state, hopefully Benny will have a clue. Regards. -Eric On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:49, Ian Petersen wrote: My IMAP account (on Runbox) has, as usual, an *Archive* folder. I also have had an *Archives* (with an S) folder containing yearly archive folders thus: ``` ├── Archive └── Archives ├── 2016 ├── 2017 └── 2015 ``` So the current year’s mail gets archived in the *Archive* folder and then gets moved (manually) to the *Archives/* when a new year comes around. I have used this system for years with other clients without problems. I think it dates back to when I used Thunderbird some years ago. Anyway, since using Mailmate I notice my current year’s (2018) archives are not going into the *Archive* folder as they should but getting put into seemingly random folders under *Archives*. I’ve found recent 2018 messages in 2017, 2016, 2012 etc. as well as the in the root *Archives* folder … Hmm! This caused me some consternation, so I have tidied things up using the Runbox web interface - I have renamed *Archives* to *Years* and moved all the wrongly archived messages to their rightful yearly folders. All is well so I thought. However, when now I archive a message in Mailmate it *recreates* the *Archives/2012* folder and puts the message in there! So how do I convince MM that *Archives* doesn’t exist any more, and is now called *Years* , and that it should just put archived messages in *Archive*? What to do? Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Archive oddities
My IMAP account (on Runbox) has, as usual, an *Archive* folder. I also have had an *Archives* (with an S) folder containing yearly archive folders thus: ``` ├── Archive └── Archives ├── 2016 ├── 2017 └── 2015 ``` So the current year’s mail gets archived in the *Archive* folder and then gets moved (manually) to the *Archives/* when a new year comes around. I have used this system for years with other clients without problems. I think it dates back to when I used Thunderbird some years ago. Anyway, since using Mailmate I notice my current year’s (2018) archives are not going into the *Archive* folder as they should but getting put into seemingly random folders under *Archives*. I’ve found recent 2018 messages in 2017, 2016, 2012 etc. as well as the in the root *Archives* folder … Hmm! This caused me some consternation, so I have tidied things up using the Runbox web interface - I have renamed *Archives* to *Years* and moved all the wrongly archived messages to their rightful yearly folders. All is well so I thought. However, when now I archive a message in Mailmate it *recreates* the *Archives/2012* folder and puts the message in there! So how do I convince MM that *Archives* doesn’t exist any more, and is now called *Years* , and that it should just put archived messages in *Archive*? What to do? Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] archive
On 2017-09-05 02:47:27 (+0200), Randy Bush wrote: yesterday, i lost an email and spent a long time looking in vain. this morning i found it. mailmate had put it in an Archives folder. i do not know why, and i do not know why searchlight did not find it there; th elatter probably my error. i do not use mailmate's archives and doubt i want to. You may have accidentally hit '⇧⌘M' (move message to archive) instead of '⇧⌘N' (synchronise mailbox). I've done that once or twice... I occasionally check MailMate's archive to see if I inadvertently moved messages there and move them back. I don't use the archive feature either. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Ministry of Information ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] archive
yesterday, i lost an email and spent a long time looking in vain. this morning i found it. mailmate had put it in an Archives folder. i do not know why, and i do not know why searchlight did not find it there; th elatter probably my error. i do not use mailmate's archives and doubt i want to. randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive missing in Sources
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:42:03 +0200 > From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" <mailingl...@freron.com> > To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate@lists.freron.com> > Subject: Re: [MlMt] Archive missing in Sources > Message-ID: <f5dd64cb-ba19-4071-8c04-6cb279877...@freron.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >> On 10 Aug 2016, at 7:03, Harvey Leff wrote: >> >> If I move a message from the CPPOutlook365 Inbox to Archive, it >> becomes invisible in MailMate. It does not show up in MailMate's >> (empty) Archive mailbox. I must log in to the server directly online >> to view it. Is there a way to add the Archive mailbox on the >> CPPOutlook365 server, which contains over 3600 messages, to the >> MailMate Sources list? > > Try “Edit Subscriptions” in the IMAP account editor (“File ▸ > Edit IMAP Account ▸ ...”) and see if you need to explicitly > subscribe to the mailbox. > > -- > Benny That worked! Thanks, Benny, once again. Harvey Leff Portland, Oregon USA___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem
On 11 Feb 2016, at 17:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 11 Feb 2016, at 16:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 10 Feb 2016, at 18:13, Roberto Thiella wrote: When I archive a message from the inbox to the archive box it disappears from the destination folder after a very short time. The problem is that it disappear from the server and I can’t rescue it any more. Thanks for the second set of logs. I now have a theory. Here's the important part: 15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive 15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355] 15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed. ... 15:57:26 C: K35 NOOP 15:57:26 S: K35 OK NOOP Completed. ... 15:57:26 C: K36 UID STORE 39761 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) 15:57:26 S: K36 OK UID STORE Completed. 15:57:26 C: K37 UID EXPUNGE 39761 15:57:26 S: * 2 EXPUNGE 15:57:26 S: K37 OK UID EXPUNGE Completed. In plain English: * MailMate tells the server to move the message and this succeeds, but apparently the message is not deleted from “Archive”. There should have been an EXPUNGE reply as described [here](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6851). * Then MailMate sends a NOOP (dummy command) in an attempt to trigger the server to tell MailMate that it has expunged the message. * Finally, MailMate deletes the message itself (from the INBOX). Now, the message should still exist in Archive since it was successfully moved, but I think the deletion in INBOX triggers it to be deleted in both locations. It's a serious server bug and you should inform Yandex. I'm afraid it's not obvious how to work around it without making it very inefficient for other servers. Since the side-effect of the bug is serious then I'll insert an explicit check for `imap.yandex.ru` to disable the use of UID MOVE. I'll also introduce a way to disable the use of UID MOVE completely: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmNeverUseIMAPMOVE -bool YES Let me know if Yandex tells you they fixed the bug (wishful thinking...). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate O.K. now it’s working. I really don’t understand what am I missing in this situation. Nonetheless I’ll get in touch with Yandex support in order to solve the problem. I’ll let you know about the news. Thank you very much. Bye. — Roberto ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem
On 12 Feb 2016, at 9:09, Roberto Thiella wrote: O.K. now it’s working. I really don’t understand what am I missing in this situation. I don't think you're missing anything. The server is just buggy and even handles its bugginess badly. In short, it returns this: 15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive 15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355] 15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed. when it should return something like this: 15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive 15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355] 15:57:26 S: * 42 EXPUNGE 15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed. (The number 42 should be the sequence number of the message in the mailbox.) What's worse, when MailMate takes over and expunges (deletes) the email explicitly in the INBOX then it's suddenly completely gone -- also from Archive. This is why it's a serious server bug. Nonetheless I’ll get in touch with Yandex support in order to solve the problem. I’ll let you know about the news. Thanks! All software is buggy (MailMate included). The difference lies in whether or not anyone cares. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem
On 11 Feb 2016, at 17:35, Roberto Thiella wrote: On 11 Feb 2016, at 17:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Thanks for the second set of logs. I now have a theory. Here's the important part: 15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive 15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355] 15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed. been an EXPUNGE reply as described [here](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6851). I have to tell you that if I use Mail instead of MailMate there is not problem at all. All is working fine. This just means that either Apple Mail does not use UID MOVE or that Apple Mail doesn't care whether or not the message is deleted in the original mailbox. It would not make sense to make MailMate work with a clearly buggy yandex server by making MailMate primitive and/or buggy. But as noted I've made an explicit test on the yandex hostname (in order to disable UID MOVE) since I don't expect them to fix the bug. I do think that anyone using the yandex IMAP server make sure they have a separate backup of their emails. Bugs in something as simple as the above is not a good sign... A test version is available in a few minutes: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane (r5222). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem
On 10 Feb 2016, at 18:13, Roberto Thiella wrote: When I archive a message from the inbox to the archive box it disappear from the destination folder after a very short time. The problem is that it disappear from the server and I can’t rescue it any more. That sounds really bad! I’m using the Yandex imap server. Any suggestion? I can see you are on the latest test version which means it's not a fixed issue (I recall a recent problem with Yandex). If you can reproduce it then you can create some logs for me like this: * Open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0). * Trigger the issue including the disappearance of the email. * Use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs”. Then I'll look for any suspicious server interactions. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem
On 11 Feb 2016, at 16:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 10 Feb 2016, at 18:13, Roberto Thiella wrote: When I archive a message from the inbox to the archive box it disappear from the destination folder after a very short time. The problem is that it disappear from the server and I can’t rescue it any more. Thanks for the second set of logs. I now have a theory. Here's the important part: 15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive 15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355] 15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed. ... 15:57:26 C: K35 NOOP 15:57:26 S: K35 OK NOOP Completed. ... 15:57:26 C: K36 UID STORE 39761 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) 15:57:26 S: K36 OK UID STORE Completed. 15:57:26 C: K37 UID EXPUNGE 39761 15:57:26 S: * 2 EXPUNGE 15:57:26 S: K37 OK UID EXPUNGE Completed. In plain English: * MailMate tells the server to move the message and this succeeds, but apparently the message is not deleted from “Archive”. There should have been an EXPUNGE reply as described [here](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6851). * Then MailMate sends a NOOP (dummy command) in an attempt to trigger the server to tell MailMate that it has expunged the message. * Finally, MailMate deletes the message itself (from the INBOX). Now, the message should still exist in Archive since it was successfully moved, but I think the deletion in INBOX triggers it to be deleted in both locations. It's a serious server bug and you should inform Yandex. I'm afraid it's not obvious how to work around it without making it very inefficient for other servers. Since the side-effect of the bug is serious then I'll insert an explicit check for `imap.yandex.ru` to disable the use of UID MOVE. I'll also introduce a way to disable the use of UID MOVE completely: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmNeverUseIMAPMOVE -bool YES Let me know if Yandex tells you they fixed the bug (wishful thinking...). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive Problem
On 11 Feb 2016, at 17:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 11 Feb 2016, at 16:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 10 Feb 2016, at 18:13, Roberto Thiella wrote: When I archive a message from the inbox to the archive box it disappear from the destination folder after a very short time. The problem is that it disappear from the server and I can’t rescue it any more. Thanks for the second set of logs. I now have a theory. Here's the important part: 15:57:26 C: J34 UID MOVE 39761 Archive 15:57:26 S: * OK [COPYUID 1452555050 39761 32355] 15:57:26 S: J34 OK UID MOVE Completed. ... 15:57:26 C: K35 NOOP 15:57:26 S: K35 OK NOOP Completed. ... 15:57:26 C: K36 UID STORE 39761 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) 15:57:26 S: K36 OK UID STORE Completed. 15:57:26 C: K37 UID EXPUNGE 39761 15:57:26 S: * 2 EXPUNGE 15:57:26 S: K37 OK UID EXPUNGE Completed. In plain English: * MailMate tells the server to move the message and this succeeds, but apparently the message is not deleted from “Archive”. There should have been an EXPUNGE reply as described [here](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6851). * Then MailMate sends a NOOP (dummy command) in an attempt to trigger the server to tell MailMate that it has expunged the message. * Finally, MailMate deletes the message itself (from the INBOX). Now, the message should still exist in Archive since it was successfully moved, but I think the deletion in INBOX triggers it to be deleted in both locations. It's a serious server bug and you should inform Yandex. I'm afraid it's not obvious how to work around it without making it very inefficient for other servers. Since the side-effect of the bug is serious then I'll insert an explicit check for `imap.yandex.ru` to disable the use of UID MOVE. I'll also introduce a way to disable the use of UID MOVE completely: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmNeverUseIMAPMOVE -bool YES Let me know if Yandex tells you they fixed the bug (wishful thinking...). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate I have to tell you that if I use Mail instead of MailMate there is not problem at all. All is working fine. Many thanks. — Roberto ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive in mailbox with dynamic name?
On 25 Apr 2015, at 14:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, at 8:25, Patrik Fältström wrote:
What I would like to be able to do is to move messages to a mailbox which is:
/Archives/${#date.month}
...and this on a specific IMAP Account (i.e. I have multiple IMAP accounts
and want to move to one of them).
So I guess my question is whether one can have a variable as target to a
moveToMailbox rule?
Well, I guess it's really two questions.
I guess so :-)
What questions on this list (I have as a newcomer looked at maybe one year of
archive before asking this question) is not? ;-)
Moving to an explicit account requires an `imap:` URL. You can get this by
selecting an IMAP mailbox and then use ⌘C to put it on the pasteboard. You'll
get something like:
imap://username%40example@imap.example.com/Archive
Aha! Cool!
The simple answer to the other question is no. The `moveToMailbox:` binding
takes the argument verbatim.
Ok.
There is no expansion of variables. I guess I could introduce something like
`moveToMailboxFormat:` for this purpose. I'll consider that.
Would be appreciated. I have seen others almost ask for it, although not as
explicitly as I do.
The most flexible solution is to create a bundle command which based on the
given message returns an action which tells MailMate to move the message.
This would not be limited to format strings. I could perhaps be persuaded to
provide an example, but I don't have time right now :-)
Interesting thinking.
I know people that archive in different ways.
I personally move all messages to -MM mailboxes, one per month.
I know others archive in the same hierarchy as the message was in when archived
(i.e. foo/bar/fratz get archived into Archive/foo/bar/fratz).
I have seen other ideas as well.
On this list I saw people wanting to archive in external software archives. I
do (as I saw one message suggested) use a separate IMAP account, so that
searches in MailMate do search all of my email.
I must though say one of the reasons I am on my way to use MailMate is that it
can handle my amount of email. I have 10-14k messages per month for the last 15
years in my archive. I archive all messages older than a year.
Mail.App can not handle it (anymore), and on top of that it has a bug in the
hash function it uses for identification of threads, as the bucket size seems
to be too small, so it has false positives.
So far, MailMate do manage to take care of my mail, so money will come shortly.
Well done Benny!
Best, Patrik
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Re: [MlMt] Archive in mailbox with dynamic name?
+1 on that idea.
Christopher
On 24 Apr 2015, at 23:25, Patrik Fältström wrote:
Hi,
I have understood one can have variables, like in sub mailboxes in the
smart folders, for example ${#date.month}.
I also see one can do actions like moveToMailbox:
archive:- Shorthand for ( 'moveToMailbox:', 'archive' )
Now, can one have a more dynamic name of the target?
What I would like to be able to do is to move messages to a mailbox
which is:
/Archives/${#date.month}
...and this on a specific IMAP Account (i.e. I have multiple IMAP
accounts and want to move to one of them).
So I guess my question is whether one can have a variable as target to
a moveToMailbox rule?
paf
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Re: [MlMt] Archive in mailbox with dynamic name?
On 25 Apr 2015, at 8:25, Patrik Fältström wrote:
What I would like to be able to do is to move messages to a mailbox
which is:
/Archives/${#date.month}
...and this on a specific IMAP Account (i.e. I have multiple IMAP
accounts and want to move to one of them).
So I guess my question is whether one can have a variable as target to
a moveToMailbox rule?
Well, I guess it's really two questions. Moving to an explicit account
requires an `imap:` URL. You can get this by selecting an IMAP mailbox
and then use ⌘C to put it on the pasteboard. You'll get something
like:
imap://username%40example@imap.example.com/Archive
The simple answer to the other question is no. The `moveToMailbox:`
binding takes the argument verbatim. There is no expansion of variables.
I guess I could introduce something like `moveToMailboxFormat:` for this
purpose. I'll consider that.
The most flexible solution is to create a bundle command which based on
the given message returns an action which tells MailMate to move the
message. This would not be limited to format strings. I could perhaps be
persuaded to provide an example, but I don't have time right now :-)
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Re: [MlMt] Archive shortcut
That shortcut works out of the box for me (32-bit). Do you have a folder set as Archive? It's a setting in the context menu of your server folders. Am 08.12.2014 um 10:28 schrieb Jean-Pierre Gattuso gattu...@obs-vlfr.fr: I am experimenting with the 64 bit version. All goes well except that I had a shortcut which no longer works. In the 32-bits version, cmd-shift-M archived the selected message(s) in an Archive folder. I am not sure whether it is a bug in the 64-bit version or whether there was a setting in the 32-bits version. I cannot remember. Could you help? Jean-Pierre Jean-Pierre Gattuso | http://www.obs-vlfr.fr/~gattuso ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive a thread?
On 16 Sep 2014, at 12:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Sep 2014, at 11:31, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 15 Sep 2014, at 20:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Alternatively, you can use this in your key binding: moveThreadToMailbox:, ARCHIVE is there a way to have the destination be Archive-year-of-mail ? If you are asking for a format string based on the content of the current email then the answer is no when using custom key bindings. The following is what you can do using custom key bindings: `ARCHIVE` is a key that maps to whatever mailbox is assigned as the “Archive” mailbox type for the account of the currently selected message. You can use `/Archive-2014` to put emails in a mailbox explicitly named `Archive-2014` in the account of the currently selected message. (Note the prefixed `/`.) You can use an explicit IMAP mailbox in an explicit account using the value on the pasteboard after selecting a mailbox and hitting ⌘C. Using a bundle command then the answer is yes, but this flexibility comes at the price of it being harder to do :-) I'll provide an example (when I have more time) if this is what you were asking for. archiving based on year of mail would be optimal, but archive into the current year (without having to update the keybindings) would be a good start ;) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive a thread?
On 17 Sep 2014, at 13:16, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 16 Sep 2014, at 12:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: is there a way to have the destination be Archive-year-of-mail ? archiving based on year of mail would be optimal, but archive into the current year (without having to update the keybindings) would be a good start ;) Not sure if I miss something. Why not setting up rules for the Archive mailbox (even for a specific IMAP account)? SHIFT-CMD-A (or any individually created key binding) moves the message in the archive mailbox (or any specified mailbox) and a rule could move the message based on the year to the desired mailbox. But maybe you are looking for a solution of a different problem and I have simply missed your point. Regards, Thomas ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive a thread?
On 17 Sep 2014, at 13:38, Thomas Eckhold wrote: On 17 Sep 2014, at 13:16, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 16 Sep 2014, at 12:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: is there a way to have the destination be Archive-year-of-mail ? archiving based on year of mail would be optimal, but archive into the current year (without having to update the keybindings) would be a good start ;) Not sure if I miss something. Why not setting up rules for the Archive mailbox (even for a specific IMAP account)? SHIFT-CMD-A (or any individually created key binding) moves the message in the archive mailbox (or any specified mailbox) and a rule could move the message based on the year to the desired mailbox. But maybe you are looking for a solution of a different problem and I have simply missed your point. your solution is way too simple and straightforward. I want convoluted! Kidding aside - your solution is much better and does not need magic. /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive a thread?
On 15 Sep 2014, at 20:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 15 Sep 2014, at 19:25, Joshua Kehn wrote: I have backspace mapped to archive an item, mark it as seen, and remove any flags. It looks like this only happens for the currently selected message, i.e. if I have group by thread turned on it keeps any messages under that thread still there. Can I have it perform that action on anything in the thread then group by thread is turned on? The general rule is that when a thread is collapsed then the action applies to the thread. If it's not collapsed then it applies to the selected message(s). Alternatively, you can use this in your key binding: moveThreadToMailbox:, ARCHIVE is there a way to have the destination be Archive-year-of-mail ? /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive a thread?
On 16 Sep 2014, at 11:31, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 15 Sep 2014, at 20:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Alternatively, you can use this in your key binding: moveThreadToMailbox:, ARCHIVE is there a way to have the destination be Archive-year-of-mail ? If you are asking for a format string based on the content of the current email then the answer is no when using custom key bindings. The following is what you can do using custom key bindings: `ARCHIVE` is a key that maps to whatever mailbox is assigned as the “Archive” mailbox type for the account of the currently selected message. You can use `/Archive-2014` to put emails in a mailbox explicitly named `Archive-2014` in the account of the currently selected message. (Note the prefixed `/`.) You can use an explicit IMAP mailbox in an explicit account using the value on the pasteboard after selecting a mailbox and hitting ⌘C. Using a bundle command then the answer is yes, but this flexibility comes at the price of it being harder to do :-) I'll provide an example (when I have more time) if this is what you were asking for. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive a thread?
On 15 Sep 2014, at 14:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: The general rule is that when a thread is collapsed then the action applies to the thread. If it's not collapsed then it applies to the selected message(s). Alternatively, you can use this in your key binding: moveThreadToMailbox:, ARCHIVE Ah, I just realized what's happening. It's not marking the other archived messages as seen / removing flags. If I have all the messages in a thread seen then the archive function works as expected but because I'm in my “Incoming” mailbox (not seen or flagged) it persists in that view. Anyway to update archiving a thread to function the same as a single message? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Archive a thread?
I have backspace mapped to archive an item, mark it as seen, and remove any flags. It looks like this only happens for the currently selected message, i.e. if I have group by thread turned on it keeps any messages under that thread still there. Can I have it perform that action on anything in the thread then group by thread is turned on? --jk ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive a thread?
On 15 Sep 2014, at 19:25, Joshua Kehn wrote: I have backspace mapped to archive an item, mark it as seen, and remove any flags. It looks like this only happens for the currently selected message, i.e. if I have group by thread turned on it keeps any messages under that thread still there. Can I have it perform that action on anything in the thread then group by thread is turned on? The general rule is that when a thread is collapsed then the action applies to the thread. If it's not collapsed then it applies to the selected message(s). Alternatively, you can use this in your key binding: moveThreadToMailbox:, ARCHIVE -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive by applying rules with default of move to Archive folder
Dr Gregory Jefferis 2014-04-16 22:23 wrote: I already have smart mailboxes that define most of these searches. I was thinking that I could add a rule to the smart mailbox that said: * if this message is now in the archive folder then move it to its permanent folder. I have set rules on a couple of my smart mailboxes that simply have an action that moves mail to a specific mailbox. No conditions needed since rules only seems to run on new messages. I have also added rules to the Junk and Trash mailboxes with action to add tag \Seen. Attaching rules to mailboxes is a very smart solution when you figure it out. The only problem is that it's hard to get an overview of your rules. Fredrik -- Web: http://xdeb.org/fredrik ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive by applying rules with default of move to Archive folder
On 16 Apr 2014, at 22:23, Dr Gregory Jefferis wrote: 1) rules are automatically triggered only when messages arrive in a mailbox, right? Well, more like “added”. Manually dragging a message to a mailbox also triggers the rules. This is currently not optional. 2) can a rule include a second mailbox restriction? You could make a condition on the virtual “Source” header, but I'm not sure what you are trying to do. A smart mailbox only matching the messages of interest would likely be a better solution. 3) are rules/searches based on address book groups any closer? No. It's only implemented on paper (I know how I want it to work, but I haven't done a single line of code). 4) is there a way to tell if a message has been read less than x minutes ago Yes, look for the “Date-Last-Viewed” header. It's actually used for internal purposes, but I think it works well for conditions as well — at least in recent test versions of MailMate (your revision should be fine). And then in terms of strategy: I already have smart mailboxes that define most of these searches. I was thinking that I could add a rule to the smart mailbox that said: * if this message is now in the archive folder then move it to its permanent folder. Alternatively I could have a rule in the Archive folder that says: * if this message is also in smart folder X then move it to IMAP folder Y. But I don't see that either of those are possible right now (without perhaps giving smart folders rules that give messages a tag). What I'd like to avoid is duplicating all of my message search conditions in two places (once in an archive rule, a second time in a smart folder). The solution now is to create a smart folder based on your smart folder which adds the additional condition. This could be done using the Mailboxes pane to tell MailMate to match on messages both in the smart folder and the archive. The rule in this smart mailbox would then not have any conditions. If you have many smart mailboxes to do this for and the action is the same then it could also be: ~~~ All of these mailboxes Any of these mailboxes Smart Mailbox 1 Smart Mailbox 2 ... Archive ~~~ But I see the implicit request (a known issue): Rules which are “dynamic” in the sense that they are triggered whenever their conditions are matched and not just when messages arrive in the mailbox. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive by applying rules with default of move to Archive folder
On 17 Apr 2014, at 9:20, Fredrik Jonsson wrote: Attaching rules to mailboxes is a very smart solution when you figure it out. The only problem is that it's hard to get an overview of your rules. Yes, this is a significant drawback of distributed rules. The solution is some kind of actual overview of rules in all mailboxes, but I haven't quite decided yet how that should work. At first, it could perhaps just be that the “Apply Rules” menu item included a submenu of mailboxes with rules to allow the user to apply the rules of any mailbox with rules (primitive, but better than nothing). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Archive by applying rules with default of move to Archive folder
On 16 Apr 2014, at 16:55, Dr Gregory Jefferis wrote: I'd like to start using rules to sort my most interesting messages into specific folders when I press e.g. V to archive or some other keyboard shortcut. If no rule matches I'd like to have archival to the Archive IMAP folder as a fall through option. Note that I don't want these rules to be processed automatically – I want to assess messages manually in the inbox. Has anyone else done something similar / could suggest a good approach? My suggestion is simple (although maybe non-obvious): Archive like you do now (button or shortcut) and add rules to the Archive mailbox. The messages not matching any conditions are then going to stay in the Archive. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
