Re: [MlMt] dreamhost spam

[Randall Meadows]

On 21 Sep 2018, at 10:10, Tracy Valleau wrote:


I've been on Dreamhost for well over a decade.

My advice: turn off their filtering and let SpamSieve do it.

Here's a good starting point for everything you want to know about DH 
filtering:


https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215686487-How-do-I-configure-my-Anti-spam-settings-


I have turned off all I can, but, according to the support person I 
talked to yesterday, you cannot completely disable the Anti-spam service 
(which is consistent with the link Bennie posted earlier).

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[MlMt] dreamhost spam

[Tracy Valleau]

I've been on Dreamhost for well over a decade.

My advice: turn off their filtering and let SpamSieve do it.

Here's a good starting point for everything you want to know about DH 
filtering:


https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215686487-How-do-I-configure-my-Anti-spam-settings-

hth

Tracy

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Today's Topics:

   1. More MailMate woes (Randall Meadows)
   2. Re: How is spam filteirng working with detection is
  disabled?! (Benny Kjær Nielsen)
   3. Re: Cannot manually Apply Rules (Benny Kjær Nielsen)
   4. Re: More MailMate woes (Benny Kjær Nielsen)
   5. Re: More MailMate woes (Randall Meadows)
   6. Re: More MailMate woes (Benny Kjær Nielsen)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:36:54 -0600
From: "Randall Meadows" 
To: "MailMate Users" 
Subject: [MlMt] More MailMate woes
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After the SpamSieve drone fiasco I mentioned yesterday, I'm not so 
sure

I am as much at fault as I thought; I'm happy to be proven wrong, if I
can figure out what's going on.

Said SpamSieve drone was a completely new installation, so I don't 
think
it has anything to do with "leftover" data.  But what was happening 
was,
just about all messages were ending up in my Spam mailbox, even 
messages

I get regularly from senders that I've been getting for years with no
problem.

I investigated further today, and every messages in the Spam mailbox 
had

these headers (inserted by DreamHost's anti-spam service, which I am
unable to disable):

X-VR-STATUS:
X-VR-SCORE:
X-VR-SPAMCAUSE:

The values varied, of course, but the one constant was, every message
that had a non-zero X-VR-SCORE (which was most of them, like 90+%) was
moved to the spam mailbox.  Now, after disabling the drone, I'm 
getting

all the messages filtered (locally) into the correct mailboxes, but
still all those non-zero scored messages have the yellow header with
[Mark as Not Junk] [ Load Once] [ Move to Junk]
buttons.

I can only assume that MailMate is heeding these X-VR-* headers and
considering every message with a non-zero score as "spammy", yielding
the yellow banner and buttons.  Is this correct?

If so...has there been a recent change in MM that might affect this?  
(I

can't recall when I last updated, but this issue "coincidentally"
started after my aforementioned SpamSieve drone problem, but since 
I've

now eliminated SpamSieve from the equation, now I I'm sure what to
think.

I'm about to completely nuke my MM installation and start from 
scratch,

just in case I've mucked up something unbeknownst to me, so if anyone
has ideas that can save me from that pain, I'd appreciate it!


randy


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 10:13:30 +0200
From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" 
To: "MailMate Users" 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] How is spam filteirng working with detection is
disabled?!
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On 20 Sep 2018, at 22:23, Randall Meadows wrote:


On 20 Sep 2018, at 14:20, Randall Meadows wrote:


On 20 Sep 2018, at 3:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Within MailMate the only two ways are the SpamSieve-integration or
mailbox rules. If you don't use SpamSieve then try sending me the
following file (off list):

/Users//Library/Application
Support/MailMate/Mailboxes.plist


Here ya go.


You have a lot of rules in different mailboxes, but I don't see 
anything

moving emails to mailboxes named something like spam or junk.


Well, crap...that's what I get for multi-tasking and not paying
attention.  Hope there's no sensitive data in there... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I don't think anyone would care much about the data in the file. The
biggest problem is that some email addresses might be scraped by some
spam-address-collecting robot, but I suspect they would skip `.plist`
files.

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Benny
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 10:15:32 +0200
From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" 
To: "MailMate Users" 
Subject: Re: [MlMt] Cannot manually Apply Rules
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