Re: [MlMt] OK, it's not ME...

2022-03-16 Thread Randall Meadows
On 16 Mar 2022, at 14:12, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 14 Mar 2022, at 19:20, Randall Meadows wrote:
>
>> Follow-up, FWIW...upgrading to Monterey seems to have made the first two 
>> issues (menu flashing and context switching) disappear (with no change to 
>> the version of MailMate).
>
> Well, I didn't have much of an idea of those anyways. The menu flashing 
> should only happen if triggering a menu command (and the flashing is done by 
> Apple code). Note that ⌘+down is bound to “Next Message” though. That might 
> be accidentally triggered.

I could reliably reproduce it by repeatedly (and fairly quickly) pressing ⌘-D, 
which I assigned to Delete Message.

>> The narcolepsy problem still exists, though. :(
>
> You can try catching it with this command:
>
> sample MailMate 10 > ~/Desktop/mailmate_sample.txt

I'll cue that up to be ready next time it happens.

> I had a similar report recently. In that case, I believe it was triggered by 
> the arrival of messages combined with a large message store, and an antivirus 
> program scanning database index files every time the database was updated.

The large message store might be in play, but antivirus is definitely not.

Thanks, Benny, I'll send the sample if/when I catch it.
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Re: [MlMt] OK, it's not ME...

2022-03-16 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 14 Mar 2022, at 19:20, Randall Meadows wrote:

Follow-up, FWIW...upgrading to Monterey seems to have made the first 
two issues (menu flashing and context switching) disappear (with no 
change to the version of MailMate).


Well, I didn't have much of an idea of those anyways. The menu flashing 
should only happen if triggering a menu command (and the flashing is 
done by Apple code). Note that ⌘+down is bound to “Next Message” 
though. That might be accidentally triggered.



The narcolepsy problem still exists, though. :(


You can try catching it with this command:

sample MailMate 10 > ~/Desktop/mailmate_sample.txt

I had a similar report recently. In that case, I believe it was 
triggered by the arrival of messages combined with a large message 
store, and an antivirus program scanning database index files every time 
the database was updated.


--
Benny
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Re: [MlMt] OK, it's not ME...

2022-03-14 Thread Randall Meadows
Follow-up, FWIW...upgrading to Monterey seems to have made the first two issues 
(menu flashing and context switching) disappear (with no change to the version 
of MailMate).

The narcolepsy problem still exists, though. :(


On 17 Feb 2022, at 9:34, Randall Meadows wrote:

> On 17 Feb 2022, at 4:43, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
>
>> On 16 Feb 2022, at 17:30, Randall Meadows wrote:
>>
>>> But just now the exact same problem happened—MailMate went to the 
>>> background and my browser came to the front—while I was merely navigating 
>>> through a list of message using the arrow keys. I know I have not 
>>> customized anything related to that or selecting of messages, so this has 
>>> to be a MailMate issue, right?!
>>>
>>> MailMate version 1.14 (5856), running on macOS Big Sur 11.6.3.
>>>
>>> Anyone else seeing this behavior?
>>
>> While I haven't seen this exact behavior I've noticed that sometimes the 
>> apple or Mailmate menu seem to flash when I'm navigating the mail (it's so 
>> fast that I can't say what menu flashes but it's up in the left corner). I 
>> have no idea why this happens.
>
> Yep, same experience here.
>
>>> PS - MailMate has also become narcoleptic on me—hanging for tens of seconds 
>>> at a time, SPOD'ing all the while. It's done it THREE times while writing 
>>> this message! This has been going on for the last several versions, and 
>>> there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to when it happens—sometimes 
>>> composing a message, like just now, or simply reading.
>>
>> I personally haven't seen this, but there is perhaps some faulty email data 
>> that causes Mailmate to wait for timeout???
>
> I'll pay more attention to the message that is currently selected at the time 
> and see if I can see a pattern.  Of course, the case I noted, composing my 
> original message, was a basic plaintext message, so...
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: [MlMt] OK, it's not ME...

2022-02-17 Thread Randall Meadows
On 17 Feb 2022, at 4:43, Jan Erik Moström wrote:

> On 16 Feb 2022, at 17:30, Randall Meadows wrote:
>
>> But just now the exact same problem happened—MailMate went to the background 
>> and my browser came to the front—while I was merely navigating through a 
>> list of message using the arrow keys. I know I have not customized anything 
>> related to that or selecting of messages, so this has to be a MailMate 
>> issue, right?!
>>
>> MailMate version 1.14 (5856), running on macOS Big Sur 11.6.3.
>>
>> Anyone else seeing this behavior?
>
> While I haven't seen this exact behavior I've noticed that sometimes the 
> apple or Mailmate menu seem to flash when I'm navigating the mail (it's so 
> fast that I can't say what menu flashes but it's up in the left corner). I 
> have no idea why this happens.

Yep, same experience here.

>> PS - MailMate has also become narcoleptic on me—hanging for tens of seconds 
>> at a time, SPOD'ing all the while. It's done it THREE times while writing 
>> this message! This has been going on for the last several versions, and 
>> there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to when it happens—sometimes 
>> composing a message, like just now, or simply reading.
>
> I personally haven't seen this, but there is perhaps some faulty email data 
> that causes Mailmate to wait for timeout???

I'll pay more attention to the message that is currently selected at the time 
and see if I can see a pattern.  Of course, the case I noted, composing my 
original message, was a basic plaintext message, so...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: [MlMt] OK, it's not ME...

2022-02-17 Thread Jan Erik Moström
On 16 Feb 2022, at 17:30, Randall Meadows wrote:

> But just now the exact same problem happened—MailMate went to the background 
> and my browser came to the front—while I was merely navigating through a list 
> of message using the arrow keys. I know I have not customized anything 
> related to that or selecting of messages, so this has to be a MailMate issue, 
> right?!
>
> MailMate version 1.14 (5856), running on macOS Big Sur 11.6.3.
>
> Anyone else seeing this behavior?

While I haven't seen this exact behavior I've noticed that sometimes the apple 
or Mailmate menu seem to flash when I'm navigating the mail (it's so fast that 
I can't say what menu flashes but it's up in the left corner). I have no idea 
why this happens.

> PS - MailMate has also become narcoleptic on me—hanging for tens of seconds 
> at a time, SPOD'ing all the while. It's done it THREE times while writing 
> this message! This has been going on for the last several versions, and there 
> seems to be no rhyme or reason as to when it happens—sometimes composing a 
> message, like just now, or simply reading.

I personally haven't seen this, but there is perhaps some faulty email data 
that causes Mailmate to wait for timeout???

= jem
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