Re: [mailop] The final death of Mailjet

[Nick via mailop]

Hi Jarland,

Apologies for the confusion here. We are still accepting abuse complaints. Can 
you email the complaints to ab...@mailjet.com and our team will respond as soon 
as they can. We are going through an email migration and that may have caused 
the cont...@mailjet.com email address to bounce temporarily.

Best,

Nick Schafer | Manager of Deliverability & Compliance
n...@mailgun.com
This message and all attachments are for the exclusive use of the recipients 
and are confidential. If you receive this message in error, please destroy it 
and notify the sender immediately.
[mailgun] [mailjet] 
[email on acid] 



From: mailop  on behalf of Jarland Donnell via 
mailop 
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 3:21 PM
To: mailop@mailop.org 
Subject: Re: [mailop] The final death of Mailjet

I realized AFTER sending this that the error says contact@ isn't found.
Are they forwarding emails from abuse@ or something? I don't know.
Anyway, still want to hear from anyone interested in collaborating on
this.

On 2022-04-25 15:18, jarl...@mxroute.com wrote:
> I'd like to encourage other mail providers to begin holding Mailjet
> accountable for the spam they send. Today, in reaction to receiving 1
> abuse complaint per spam email sent from their platform, they finally
> had enough of hearing about it:
>
> Reported error:   550 5.1.10 RESOLVER.ADR.RecipientNotFound; Recipient
> cont...@mailjet.com not found by SMTP address lookup
> DSN generated by: DB9PR09MB5162.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com
>
> That's right. Mailjet no longer accepts abuse complaints. They do
> accept customers who send unsolicited marketing email, and they do not
> take action against them. If you are also continually receiving spam
> from Mailjet and would like to discuss how we might collectively
> punish their behavior in the marketplace, I would love to hear from
> you.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Jarland Donnell
> MXroute Admin
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Re: [mailop] The final death of Mailjet

[Atro Tossavainen via mailop]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 03:18:30PM -0500, Jarland Donnell via mailop wrote:
> I'd like to encourage other mail providers to begin holding Mailjet
> accountable for the spam they send. Today, in reaction to receiving
> 1 abuse complaint per spam email sent from their platform, they
> finally had enough of hearing about it:
> 
> Reported error:   550 5.1.10 RESOLVER.ADR.RecipientNotFound; Recipient
> cont...@mailjet.com not found by SMTP address lookup

I most recently submitted a complaint on Feb 23. It was received at
Google at that time.

[root@mail ~]# zgrep abuse@mailjet /var/log/old/maillog-20220227.gz
Feb 23 23:39:24 mail postfix/smtp[25643]: 114E710052430: 
to=, relay=aspmx.l.google.com[64.233.165.26]:25, delay=2.1, 
delays=0.11/0.02/0.42/1.5, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK  1645652364 
z5si683247ljz.173 - gsmtp)

I would suspect that this is a case of botched Google to Microsoft
migration rather than immediate proof of malicious intent.

It is also noteworthy that Mailjet is not an independent operation,
has not been for almost a year.

https://www.mailgun.com/blog/company/mailgun-acquires-european-competitor-mailjet/

Consequently, writing to abuse@ the new owners might be a thing.

I've taken the liberty of pointing this out within the club.

-- 
Atro Tossavainen, Founder, Partner
Koli-Lõks OÜ (reg. no. 12815457, VAT ID EE101811635)
Tallinn, Estonia
tel. +372-5883-4269, http://www.koliloks.eu/
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Re: [mailop] The final death of Mailjet

[Jarland Donnell via mailop]

I realized AFTER sending this that the error says contact@ isn't found. 
Are they forwarding emails from abuse@ or something? I don't know. 
Anyway, still want to hear from anyone interested in collaborating on 
this.


On 2022-04-25 15:18, jarl...@mxroute.com wrote:

I'd like to encourage other mail providers to begin holding Mailjet
accountable for the spam they send. Today, in reaction to receiving 1
abuse complaint per spam email sent from their platform, they finally
had enough of hearing about it:

Reported error: 550 5.1.10 RESOLVER.ADR.RecipientNotFound; Recipient
cont...@mailjet.com not found by SMTP address lookup
DSN generated by:   DB9PR09MB5162.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com

That's right. Mailjet no longer accepts abuse complaints. They do
accept customers who send unsolicited marketing email, and they do not
take action against them. If you are also continually receiving spam
from Mailjet and would like to discuss how we might collectively
punish their behavior in the marketplace, I would love to hear from
you.

Kind Regards,
Jarland Donnell
MXroute Admin

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[mailop] The final death of Mailjet

[Jarland Donnell via mailop]

I'd like to encourage other mail providers to begin holding Mailjet 
accountable for the spam they send. Today, in reaction to receiving 1 
abuse complaint per spam email sent from their platform, they finally 
had enough of hearing about it:


Reported error:	550 5.1.10 RESOLVER.ADR.RecipientNotFound; Recipient 
cont...@mailjet.com not found by SMTP address lookup

DSN generated by:   DB9PR09MB5162.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com

That's right. Mailjet no longer accepts abuse complaints. They do accept 
customers who send unsolicited marketing email, and they do not take 
action against them. If you are also continually receiving spam from 
Mailjet and would like to discuss how we might collectively punish their 
behavior in the marketplace, I would love to hear from you.


Kind Regards,
Jarland Donnell
MXroute Admin
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Re: [mailop] [E] $GOOG

[Paul Vixie via mailop]

Laura Atkins via mailop wrote on 2022-04-25 02:19:

...

https://www.spamhaus.com/custom-content/uploads/2022/04/Botnet-Report-Q1-2022.pdf

...

Spamhaus ultimately concludes that section: "It’s evident that where 
there’s a freebie, there’s abuse!”


laura


spam in hand or it didn't happen.

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Re: [mailop] [E] $GOOG

[Laura Atkins via mailop]

> On 15 Apr 2022, at 18:29, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dnia 15.04.2022 o godz. 16:53:11 Laura Atkins via mailop pisze:
> 
> "EU.org, free domain names since 1996”
> 
> You quoted that. Eu.org is a *domain registrar*. Only. They don't offer any 
> email service and never did. So how can they "police users for email"?
> 
> Do you know any paid domain registrar - for example for .com domain - that 
> "polices users for email", if they don't host any email for the user?
> 
> There are many who claim that there's a correlation between easily, cheap (or 
> free) domain names and spam. Their rationale is that spammers can secure 
> disposable domain names for very low price.
> 
> Therefore, they claim, domain names meeting that criteria need to be 
> subjected to additional scrubbing. Less sophisticated receivers could simply 
> opt to reject while providers with more sophisticated mechanisms could 
> implement that "additional scrubbing" in the form of tighter tolerances, 
> starting the "reputation calculation" from a lower value or whatever makes 
> sense to them.
> 
> Their common goal according to this narrative, is to reduce the amount of 
> spam these mailbox providers have to deliver to their products/clients.
> 
The most recent Spamhaus botnet update report addresses this very nicely and 
provides direct evidence that free domain registrations are heavily abused. 

https://www.spamhaus.com/custom-content/uploads/2022/04/Botnet-Report-Q1-2022.pdf
 


"A more detailed review of our data reveals that the majority of fraudulent 
domain registrations within Freenom’s TLDs are not linked to highly advanced 
and sophisticated threat actors, but users of freely available crimeware kits 
that they have bought for a few bucks on the dark web. These somewhat “amateur” 
threat actors do not have the same financial resources as more “professional” 
cybercriminals. Therefore, it is no surprise that they try to (ab)use services 
that are available for free – such as Freenom offers.” 

Spamhaus ultimately concludes that section: "It’s evident that where there’s a 
freebie, there’s abuse!” 

laura 

-- 
The Delivery Experts

Laura Atkins
Word to the Wise
la...@wordtothewise.com 

Email Delivery Blog: http://wordtothewise.com/blog  






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