Hi
Orange is an ISP and as far as I can remember, they do not provide free mail
address.
When people are shutting down their internet account, Orange is asking them to
take necessary measures to also shut down the mailbox.
Mailbox will stay accessible for 6 months and then shut down
Source :
https://assistance.orange.fr/assistance-commerciale/la-gestion-de-vos-offres-et-options/resilier-votre-offre/les-conseils-avant-de-resilier-votre-messagerie-mail-orange_71178-72015
Could it be that some people just don't take necessary action regarding their
mailbox when moving from an ISP to another ?
Best regards
Florent
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1. Re: Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces (Benoit Panizzon)
2. Re: Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces (Philip Paeps)
3. Re: Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
4. Re: Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces (Mathieu Bourdin)
5. Re: Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces (David Hofstee)
6. Re: Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces
(Emre Üst |euro.message|)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 13:23:29 +0200
From: Benoit Panizzon
To: "Emre Üst |euro.message|"
Cc: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces
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Hi Erme
I've seen similar problems with ISP using, as I recall, something sounding like
'xmailserver' as SMTP Server.
That Server has a very serious bug, instead of rejecting invalid recipients
during the 'rcpt to' handshake, it does this after 'data'
has been initiated by issuing a human readable message telling what recipient
was invalid.
This of course breaks all mailing lists or newsletter tools which send emails
to as many recipients as possible to lower resource consumption.
If one destination address becomes invalid, this leads to mass unsubscription
of valid email addresses on tools like mailman.
So Maybe France Telecom switched to such a mailserver?
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
-Benoît Panizzon-
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:34:17 +0200
From: "Philip Paeps"
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces
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On 2018-07-05 12:47:57 (+0200), Emre Üst |euro.message| wrote:
> Is there anything wrong on Orange.fr and wanadoo.fr domains lately ?
> Our client's recipients went to Hard Bounces. I actually don't
> understand why suddenly their email become invalid, people that are
> actually quite active. Opening and clicking on the NL.
>
> Could it be closing themselves ?
The errors you quote translate to "user unknown". Perhaps the recipients
closed their accounts? Or stopped paying their bills and their mailboxes were
shut down?
Continuing to send mail to mailboxes that bounce hard is unlikely to do your
reputation much good!
Philip
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 17:21:18 +0530
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian
To: Benoit Panizzon , "Emre Üst
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Cc: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Orange.fr and Wanadoo.fr Hardbounces
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