Re: VIRGIL: What others say about Virgil
Hieronymus Prechtl is right, and so is Leofranc Holford-Strevens. The problem is that the Donatus vita was expanded in early the fifteenth century. My translation, from which Prechtl cites, includes the expansions but puts them in angle brackets: >90. The success of the Bucolics was such when he published it, that the > cantores recited them frequently, even on stage. he > had heard some of the verses, his piercing judgement immediately > perceived that these were productions of uncommon vigor, and ordered >the > whole eclogue to be recited from the beginning. Having familiarized >himself > with its every nuance, he declared it "the second great hope of Rome," >as > if he himself were the first hope of the Latin language and Maro the > second. These words Virgil later inserted in the Aeneid [12.168].> As you can see, the bit about Cicero does not appear in the original vita, for the reason that Holford-Strevens gave yesterday. (The same goes for the passage in which Virgil helps Augustus decide not to abdicate: according to Dio, Augustus discussed the matter with Maecenas and Agrippa, but there is no evidence that he consulted Virgil on the matter.) --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: What others say about Virgil
Guten Tag, David... Great, your suggestions. Vielen Dank More to say later. No time now. Thanks, Ambros > Three places to look for a quick start: Etc. --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: What others say about Virgil
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hieronymus Prechtl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Halifax, Nova Scotia >October 17, 2:00 pm > > >DONATUS: a few things here and there, like that Cicero, having familiarized >himself with every nuance of the Bucolics, was so impressed that he >declared Virgil "the second great hope of Rome," as if he himself were the >first hope of the Latin language and Virgil the second. Where does Donatus say that? and what time had Cicero to read even a single eclogue before being murdered? Leofranc Holford-Strevens *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Leofranc Holford-Strevens 67 St Bernard's Road usque adeone Oxford scire MEVM nihil est, nisi ME scire hoc sciat alter? OX2 6EJ tel. +44 (0)1865 552808(home)/353865(work) fax +44 (0)1865 512237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
Re: VIRGIL: What others say about Virgil
At 03:16 PM 10/17/02 -0300, Ambros Hieronymus wrote: >I am doing a small project for a course on Augustan poetry titled "Others on >Virgil." I have collected some evidence but I am sure there is more, much >more, out there. If anyone can think of some without investing time in a >search, would (s)he let me in on it. Three places to look for a quick start: 1. Elizabeth Nitchie, _Master Vergil_. (This may well have everything you want.) 2. A. J. Tarrant, "Aspects of Virgil's Reception in Antiquity" and Colin Burrow, "Virgils, from Dante to Milton," both in _The Cambridge Companion to Virgil_. 3. The testimonia at the front of Jacobus Pontanus' edition of Virgil's opera (1599; rpt. in 3 vols. by Garland 1976: the testimonia are in the first volume). --- David Wilson-Okamurahttp://virgil.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] East Carolina UniversityVirgil reception, discussion, documents, &c --- --- To leave the Mantovano mailing list at any time, do NOT hit reply. Instead, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message "unsubscribe mantovano" in the body (omitting the quotation marks). You can also unsubscribe at http://virgil.org/mantovano/mantovano.htm#unsub
