Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

2013-07-11 Thread John Smith
guys,

are there any recommendations between ms4w and osgeo4w. i guess it depends
on use case but for typical uses?

https://encrypted.google.com/?q=ms4w+vs+osgeo4w

as for my case, i'd like to use the latest release of apache, postgis and
php with mapserver, and so just looking to drop-in ms on windows.

it seems osgeo4w is heavier than ms4w. why not combine these efforts.

thanks, jzs



On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Siki Zoltan s...@agt.bme.hu wrote:

 Dear John,

 check osgeo4w at http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

 Regards,
 Zoltan


 On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, John Smith wrote:

  guys,

 are there any good alternatives to ms4w at
 http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?**page=downloads.htmlhttp://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?page=downloads.html.
 its last stable base
 package is over a year old from may 26, 2012, and there is no timeline
 given about its next release.

 thanks, jzs


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Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

2013-07-11 Thread Smith, Michael
I am curious about this myself.  In my research, it seems that both packages 
are using MapServer versions that are fairly out of date.

MS4W hasn't been updated in over a year and is at MapServer 6.0.3
OSGeo4W reports it is using an even older version 5.0.x.

Meanwhile MapServer itself is at 6.2.1 and counting.

One big difference in the two packages is that OSGeo4W is a bunch of OS GIS 
tools including things like GRASS and QGIS, while MS4W is just MapServer.  We 
use MS4W extensively and find it very easy to install and configure compared to 
OSGeo4W.  MS4W really is the 'drop-in' approach and we can typically set up a 
server in about 30 seconds.

===
Michael Smith MS GISP
State GIS Manager, Maine Office of GIS
State of Maine, Office of Information Technology
michael.smith _at_ maine.gov 207-215-5530

Board Member, Maine GeoLibrary
Education Chair, Maine GIS Users Group
State Rep, National States Geographic Information Council
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Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

guys,
are there any recommendations between ms4w and osgeo4w. i guess it depends on 
use case but for typical uses?

https://encrypted.google.com/?q=ms4w+vs+osgeo4w
as for my case, i'd like to use the latest release of apache, postgis and php 
with mapserver, and so just looking to drop-in ms on windows.

it seems osgeo4w is heavier than ms4w. why not combine these efforts.

thanks, jzs

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Siki Zoltan 
s...@agt.bme.humailto:s...@agt.bme.hu wrote:
Dear John,

check osgeo4w at http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

Regards,
Zoltan


On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, John Smith wrote:
guys,

are there any good alternatives to ms4w at
http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?page=downloads.html. its last stable base
package is over a year old from may 26, 2012, and there is no timeline
given about its next release.

thanks, jzs

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Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

2013-07-11 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Michael,

I am very glad that MS4W is so useful for your organization.  Note that
there is a beta released in April, that you should be testing and
reporting back on: see archives at
http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/ms4w-users/2013-April/002230.html

Thanks for your support.

-jeff


-- 
Jeff McKenna
MapServer Consulting and Training Services
http://www.gatewaygeomatics.com/



On 2013-07-11 10:45 AM, Smith, Michael wrote:
 I am curious about this myself.  In my research, it seems that both
 packages are using MapServer versions that are fairly out of date.
 
  
 
 MS4W hasn’t been updated in over a year and is at MapServer 6.0.3
 
 OSGeo4W reports it is using an even older version 5.0.x.
 
  
 
 Meanwhile MapServer itself is at 6.2.1 and counting.
 
  
 
 One big difference in the two packages is that OSGeo4W is a bunch of OS
 GIS tools including things like GRASS and QGIS, while MS4W is just
 MapServer.  We use MS4W extensively and find it very easy to install and
 configure compared to OSGeo4W.  MS4W really is the ‘drop-in’ approach
 and we can typically set up a server in about 30 seconds.
 
  
 
 ===
 *Michael Smith MS GISP*
 State GIS Manager, Maine Office of GIS
 State of Maine, Office of Information Technology
 /michael.smith _at_ maine.gov/ 207-215-5530
 
 Board Member, Maine GeoLibrary
 Education Chair, Maine GIS Users Group
 State Rep, National States Geographic Information Council
 
 
 State House Station 145
 51 Commerce Drive
 Augusta, ME 04333-0145
 69^o 47' 58.9W  44^o 21' 54.8N
 
 *From:*mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
 [mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *John Smith
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:29 AM
 *To:* mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
 *Subject:* Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?
 
  
 
 guys,
 
 are there any recommendations between ms4w and osgeo4w. i guess it
 depends on use case but for typical uses?
 
 https://encrypted.google.com/?q=ms4w+vs+osgeo4w
 
 as for my case, i'd like to use the latest release of apache, postgis
 and php with mapserver, and so just looking to drop-in ms on windows.
 
 it seems osgeo4w is heavier than ms4w. why not combine these efforts.
 
  
 
 thanks, jzs
 
  
 
 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Siki Zoltan s...@agt.bme.hu
 mailto:s...@agt.bme.hu wrote:
 
 Dear John,
 
 check osgeo4w at http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/
 
 Regards,
 Zoltan
 
 
 
 On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, John Smith wrote:
 
 guys,
 
 are there any good alternatives to ms4w at
 http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?page=downloads.html. its last stable base
 package is over a year old from may 26, 2012, and there is no timeline
 given about its next release.
 
 thanks, jzs
 
  
 
 
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Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

2013-07-11 Thread Marco Afonso
Hi,

apache, postgis and php with mapserver,

You are looking for a sort of GeoWAMP package ... :) That would be good for
MapIgniter too. Currently I recom to install ms4w and postgis... take a
look at http://mapigniter.com/wiki/install-windows


2013/7/11 Smith, Michael michael.sm...@maine.gov

  I am curious about this myself.  In my research, it seems that both
 packages are using MapServer versions that are fairly out of date.

 ** **

 MS4W hasn’t been updated in over a year and is at MapServer 6.0.3

 OSGeo4W reports it is using an even older version 5.0.x.

 ** **

 Meanwhile MapServer itself is at 6.2.1 and counting.

 ** **

 One big difference in the two packages is that OSGeo4W is a bunch of OS
 GIS tools including things like GRASS and QGIS, while MS4W is just
 MapServer.  We use MS4W extensively and find it very easy to install and
 configure compared to OSGeo4W.  MS4W really is the ‘drop-in’ approach and
 we can typically set up a server in about 30 seconds.

 ** **

 ===
 *Michael Smith MS GISP*
 State GIS Manager, Maine Office of GIS
 State of Maine, Office of Information Technology
 *michael.smith _at_ maine.gov* 207-215-5530

 Board Member, Maine GeoLibrary
 Education Chair, Maine GIS Users Group
 State Rep, National States Geographic Information Council


 State House Station 145
 51 Commerce Drive
 Augusta, ME 04333-0145
 69o 47' 58.9W  44o 21' 54.8N 

 *From:* mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
 mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *John Smith
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:29 AM
 *To:* mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
 *Subject:* Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

 ** **

 guys,

 are there any recommendations between ms4w and osgeo4w. i guess it depends
 on use case but for typical uses?

 https://encrypted.google.com/?q=ms4w+vs+osgeo4w

 as for my case, i'd like to use the latest release of apache, postgis and
 php with mapserver, and so just looking to drop-in ms on windows.

 it seems osgeo4w is heavier than ms4w. why not combine these efforts.

 ** **

 thanks, jzs

 ** **

 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Siki Zoltan s...@agt.bme.hu wrote:

 Dear John,

 check osgeo4w at http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

 Regards,
 Zoltan



 On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, John Smith wrote:

 guys,

 are there any good alternatives to ms4w at
 http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?page=downloads.html. its last stable base
 package is over a year old from may 26, 2012, and there is no timeline
 given about its next release.

 thanks, jzs

 ** **

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Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

2013-07-11 Thread John Smith
thanks michael and marco.

ms4w does include apache and php though. in the past, i removed its apache
and php, and installed their latest releases separately. just looking to
avoid doing that again. at a minimum, get a x64 windows binary of ms4w. for
now, http://vbkto.dyndns.org/sdk/ looks like a good bet.

jzs



On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Marco Afonso mafonso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 apache, postgis and php with mapserver,

 You are looking for a sort of GeoWAMP package ... :) That would be good
 for MapIgniter too. Currently I recom to install ms4w and postgis... take a
 look at http://mapigniter.com/wiki/install-windows


 2013/7/11 Smith, Michael michael.sm...@maine.gov

  I am curious about this myself.  In my research, it seems that both
 packages are using MapServer versions that are fairly out of date.

 ** **

 MS4W hasn’t been updated in over a year and is at MapServer 6.0.3

 OSGeo4W reports it is using an even older version 5.0.x.

 ** **

 Meanwhile MapServer itself is at 6.2.1 and counting.

 ** **

 One big difference in the two packages is that OSGeo4W is a bunch of OS
 GIS tools including things like GRASS and QGIS, while MS4W is just
 MapServer.  We use MS4W extensively and find it very easy to install and
 configure compared to OSGeo4W.  MS4W really is the ‘drop-in’ approach and
 we can typically set up a server in about 30 seconds.

 ** **

 ===
 *Michael Smith MS GISP*
 State GIS Manager, Maine Office of GIS
 State of Maine, Office of Information Technology
 *michael.smith _at_ maine.gov* 207-215-5530

 Board Member, Maine GeoLibrary
 Education Chair, Maine GIS Users Group
 State Rep, National States Geographic Information Council


 State House Station 145
 51 Commerce Drive
 Augusta, ME 04333-0145
 69o 47' 58.9W  44o 21' 54.8N 

 *From:* mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
 mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *John Smith
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:29 AM
 *To:* mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
 *Subject:* Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

 ** **

 guys,

 are there any recommendations between ms4w and osgeo4w. i guess it
 depends on use case but for typical uses?

 https://encrypted.google.com/?q=ms4w+vs+osgeo4w

 as for my case, i'd like to use the latest release of apache, postgis and
 php with mapserver, and so just looking to drop-in ms on windows.

 it seems osgeo4w is heavier than ms4w. why not combine these efforts.

 ** **

 thanks, jzs

 ** **

 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Siki Zoltan s...@agt.bme.hu wrote:***
 *

 Dear John,

 check osgeo4w at http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

 Regards,
 Zoltan



 On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, John Smith wrote:

 guys,

 are there any good alternatives to ms4w at
 http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?page=downloads.html. its last stable base
 package is over a year old from may 26, 2012, and there is no timeline
 given about its next release.

 thanks, jzs

 ** **

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Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

2013-06-30 Thread Siki Zoltan

Dear John,

check osgeo4w at http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/

Regards,
Zoltan

On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, John Smith wrote:


guys,

are there any good alternatives to ms4w at
http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?page=downloads.html. its last stable base
package is over a year old from may 26, 2012, and there is no timeline
given about its next release.

thanks, jzs


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[mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

2013-06-29 Thread John Smith
guys,

are there any good alternatives to ms4w at
http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?page=downloads.html. its last stable base
package is over a year old from may 26, 2012, and there is no timeline
given about its next release.

thanks, jzs
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Re: [mapserver-users] alternatives to ms4w?

2013-06-29 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi,

The web page is not up to date. There is also 3.1.0 beta available.
http://www.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ms4w_3.1.0-beta1.zip
http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/ms4w-users/2013-April/002230.html

It is a beta version but the Mapserver included in the package has been stable 
for me.
You can get daily builds of Mapserver from http://gisinternals.com/sdk/ but 
then you are more on your own with installation.  You can also try OSGeo4W 
installer http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/


-Jukka Rahkonen-


John Smith wrote:


 guys,

 are there any good alternatives to ms4w at 
 http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/?page=downloads.html. its last stable base 
 package is over a year old from may 26, 2012, and there is no timeline given 
 about its next release.

 thanks, jzs

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