Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Drew, I need help with getting a local Church based school (K-12) to switch to LobO. Any suggestions? On Oct 19, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-19 17:26, Drew Campbell a écrit : >> >> Our company (The Top Floor) serves 45% of the school districts in Vermont. >> Over the past few years we've found a very large number of these schools >> moving to OpenOffice with great success... >> >> However the trend is turning...Schools in Vermont are now moving to Google >> Apps at a very rapid pace. The challenge to marketing LibreOffice here will >> be less about support, etc, but more about competition with Google Apps for >> Education. >> >> Of course there are advantages and drawbacks to both LibreOffice and Google >> Apps, and perhaps a mix of the two is the best solution for some >> schools...Has anyone written about how LibO is either superior to or >> complimentary to Google Apps? >> >> Thanks, >> ~Drew >> >> Drew Campbell -d...@thetopfloor.com >> The Top Floor - Business Computer Solutions >> >> >> PO Box 524, Middlebury, VT 05753 >> Phone: 802.388.1600 x252 >> Toll-Free: 800.290.4979 x252 >> Fax: 800.290.4765 >> > > Thanks for both of your answers Drew and Graham: > > We will look into this for marketing purposes. Especially look into Graham's > suggestions. > > Marc > > > -- > E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to > unsubscribe > List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ > All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Le 2010-10-19 19:18, Benjamin Horst a écrit : Promoting LibreOffice as a symbiotic tool to use along with Google Docs would probably be a successful approach. It provides value-add in terms of a larger featureset and support for much more complex documents, while also eliminating the risk of losing all productivity if you're forced offline for whatever reason. And the extension Graham suggests is the glue that lets them work together. -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com Agreed and good idea! We will have to take a closer look at this when establishing our rationale for the educational advantages of the suite. Marc Paré Waterloo, Canada Marketing Team Member -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
On Oct 19, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-19 17:26, Drew Campbell a écrit : >> >> Our company (The Top Floor) serves 45% of the school districts in Vermont. >> Over the past few years we've found a very large number of these schools >> moving to OpenOffice with great success... >> >> However the trend is turning...Schools in Vermont are now moving to Google >> Apps at a very rapid pace. The challenge to marketing LibreOffice here will >> be less about support, etc, but more about competition with Google Apps for >> Education. >> >> Of course there are advantages and drawbacks to both LibreOffice and Google >> Apps, and perhaps a mix of the two is the best solution for some >> schools...Has anyone written about how LibO is either superior to or >> complimentary to Google Apps? >> >> Thanks, >> ~Drew >> >> Drew Campbell -d...@thetopfloor.com >> The Top Floor - Business Computer Solutions >> >> >> PO Box 524, Middlebury, VT 05753 >> Phone: 802.388.1600 x252 >> Toll-Free: 800.290.4979 x252 >> Fax: 800.290.4765 >> > > Thanks for both of your answers Drew and Graham: > > We will look into this for marketing purposes. Especially look into Graham's > suggestions. Promoting LibreOffice as a symbiotic tool to use along with Google Docs would probably be a successful approach. It provides value-add in terms of a larger featureset and support for much more complex documents, while also eliminating the risk of losing all productivity if you're forced offline for whatever reason. And the extension Graham suggests is the glue that lets them work together. -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Le 2010-10-19 17:26, Drew Campbell a écrit : Our company (The Top Floor) serves 45% of the school districts in Vermont. Over the past few years we've found a very large number of these schools moving to OpenOffice with great success... However the trend is turning...Schools in Vermont are now moving to Google Apps at a very rapid pace. The challenge to marketing LibreOffice here will be less about support, etc, but more about competition with Google Apps for Education. Of course there are advantages and drawbacks to both LibreOffice and Google Apps, and perhaps a mix of the two is the best solution for some schools...Has anyone written about how LibO is either superior to or complimentary to Google Apps? Thanks, ~Drew Drew Campbell -d...@thetopfloor.com The Top Floor - Business Computer Solutions PO Box 524, Middlebury, VT 05753 Phone: 802.388.1600 x252 Toll-Free: 800.290.4979 x252 Fax: 800.290.4765 Thanks for both of your answers Drew and Graham: We will look into this for marketing purposes. Especially look into Graham's suggestions. Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] First Branding Material Arrived :-)
Hi Daniela! Am Montag, den 18.10.2010, 10:45 +0200 schrieb Daniela Mihm: > We needed this for the DVD project! Good to hear :-) Even better: if you think something is missing or should be worked on first (many todos on the page, I know), then please tell us. Cheers (or: good night), Christoph -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
On Wednesday 20 Oct 2010 10:26:10 Drew Campbell wrote: > Our company (The Top Floor) serves 45% of the school districts in Vermont. > Over the past few years we've found a very large number of these schools > moving to OpenOffice with great success... > > However the trend is turning...Schools in Vermont are now moving to Google > Apps at a very rapid pace. The challenge to marketing LibreOffice here > will be less about support, etc, but more about competition with Google > Apps for Education. > > Of course there are advantages and drawbacks to both LibreOffice and Google > Apps, and perhaps a mix of the two is the best solution for some > schools...Has anyone written about how LibO is either superior to or > complimentary to Google Apps? > > Thanks, > ~Drew In fact there is an extension: Gdocs that integrates OOo/LibO with zoho and Google docs http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ooo2gd It has the advantage of being able to be used when connection is not available Cheers GL > > Drew Campbell - d...@thetopfloor.com > The Top Floor - Business Computer Solutions > > > PO Box 524, Middlebury, VT 05753 > Phone: 802.388.1600 x252 > Toll-Free: 800.290.4979 x252 > Fax: 800.290.4765 > > -Original Message- > From: Marc Paré [mailto:m...@marcpare.com] > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:08 AM > To: marketing@libreoffice.org > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and > NOT post grad. university/college) > > Merci Michel for your note: > > Le 2010-10-18 10:43, Michel Gagnon a écrit : > > I am neither student nor teacher, but I have to offer support to my > > daughter and her friends. I find that OpenOffice (and most likely > > LibreOffice has a few problems to solve before it penetrates the market. > > What are the main problems that need to be addressed? > > > > - College, universities and large high schools have some IT personnel, > > but smaller high schools and elementary schools don't have any. They > > will get support from the school board for computers used in > > administration... and they will get wiring for computers used in the > > classroom. So it needs to be plug and play. > > I am involved in committee work (teacher side) and meet regularly with > school board IT. I am not sure if is is different in Quebec, Canad, but > in Ontario the IT departments in our school boards are pretty well > modelled on the IT department found at most universities. The school > board IT departments are naturally smaller by comparison, however they > do have divisions/specialists such as: network specialist; webmaster; > help desk; hardware specialist/repairs; software repairs. As an example, > my school board has over 10,000 computers servicing over 100,000 users > and we have: 2 network specialists; 1 active help desk; 2 software > specialists; 1 hardware specialist (with summer hired help) (I know this > is definitely not enough); 1 webmaster (school board has a website and > ALL schools have a website); 1 teacher-IT specialist for software > research/usage of elementary/high school software use/adoption. > > > - Computers used by students typically have the software they were > > bought with. Until the personnel who prepares the documentation for > > tenders write that they ask for a computer with Windows and a free > > Office suite, computers will continue to be stocked with Microsoft > > Office. So these administrators are the first people we need to address. > > Again, in Ontario, the system is a tendered system, Novell has deep > penetration for networking solution in school boards in Ontario. MS > products are installed with a cost/seat charge. Software is usually > chosen from a Ontario government approved list: > http://www.osapac.org/cms/ where IT and teachers coordinate the list of > license purchases. > > Ontario school board then tailor their purchases according to this list. > BTW ... in Ontario, this is the group that LibO would have to target in > advertising. They already have StarOffice on their list. > > > - Installation has to be simpler. One just have to look at the tutorial > > on "how to install -- or upgrade -- OpenOffice on a Windows platform" to > > be totally discouraged about the process. And the French version is even > > worst than the English one (as in more steps to go through). > > Fortunately, I did not read the tutorials before, installed the usual > > way (double click), and things went well. > > > > - In the same line, installation needs to be closer to the so-called > > "silent install" that can be done with some know how. The way it should > > work: Double-click and it automatically creates its temporary folder and > > installs itself; registration should disappear. Why not replace that > > with a link to the help forums in the "?" menu? > > The LibO suite is still in beta and I hope that the install process will > be as streamlined as OpenOffice. There have been discuss
RE: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Our company (The Top Floor) serves 45% of the school districts in Vermont. Over the past few years we've found a very large number of these schools moving to OpenOffice with great success... However the trend is turning...Schools in Vermont are now moving to Google Apps at a very rapid pace. The challenge to marketing LibreOffice here will be less about support, etc, but more about competition with Google Apps for Education. Of course there are advantages and drawbacks to both LibreOffice and Google Apps, and perhaps a mix of the two is the best solution for some schools...Has anyone written about how LibO is either superior to or complimentary to Google Apps? Thanks, ~Drew Drew Campbell - d...@thetopfloor.com The Top Floor - Business Computer Solutions PO Box 524, Middlebury, VT 05753 Phone: 802.388.1600 x252 Toll-Free: 800.290.4979 x252 Fax: 800.290.4765 -Original Message- From: Marc Paré [mailto:m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:08 AM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college) Merci Michel for your note: Le 2010-10-18 10:43, Michel Gagnon a écrit : > > I am neither student nor teacher, but I have to offer support to my > daughter and her friends. I find that OpenOffice (and most likely > LibreOffice has a few problems to solve before it penetrates the market. > What are the main problems that need to be addressed? > > - College, universities and large high schools have some IT personnel, > but smaller high schools and elementary schools don't have any. They > will get support from the school board for computers used in > administration... and they will get wiring for computers used in the > classroom. So it needs to be plug and play. I am involved in committee work (teacher side) and meet regularly with school board IT. I am not sure if is is different in Quebec, Canad, but in Ontario the IT departments in our school boards are pretty well modelled on the IT department found at most universities. The school board IT departments are naturally smaller by comparison, however they do have divisions/specialists such as: network specialist; webmaster; help desk; hardware specialist/repairs; software repairs. As an example, my school board has over 10,000 computers servicing over 100,000 users and we have: 2 network specialists; 1 active help desk; 2 software specialists; 1 hardware specialist (with summer hired help) (I know this is definitely not enough); 1 webmaster (school board has a website and ALL schools have a website); 1 teacher-IT specialist for software research/usage of elementary/high school software use/adoption. > > - Computers used by students typically have the software they were > bought with. Until the personnel who prepares the documentation for > tenders write that they ask for a computer with Windows and a free > Office suite, computers will continue to be stocked with Microsoft > Office. So these administrators are the first people we need to address. Again, in Ontario, the system is a tendered system, Novell has deep penetration for networking solution in school boards in Ontario. MS products are installed with a cost/seat charge. Software is usually chosen from a Ontario government approved list: http://www.osapac.org/cms/ where IT and teachers coordinate the list of license purchases. Ontario school board then tailor their purchases according to this list. BTW ... in Ontario, this is the group that LibO would have to target in advertising. They already have StarOffice on their list. > > - Installation has to be simpler. One just have to look at the tutorial > on "how to install -- or upgrade -- OpenOffice on a Windows platform" to > be totally discouraged about the process. And the French version is even > worst than the English one (as in more steps to go through). > Fortunately, I did not read the tutorials before, installed the usual > way (double click), and things went well. > - In the same line, installation needs to be closer to the so-called > "silent install" that can be done with some know how. The way it should > work: Double-click and it automatically creates its temporary folder and > installs itself; registration should disappear. Why not replace that > with a link to the help forums in the "?" menu? The LibO suite is still in beta and I hope that the install process will be as streamlined as OpenOffice. There have been discussions on the discuss mailist about this. Just search for this thread: Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update and add your opinion. It will count! > > - Whatever may be said - in theory - about the beauty of open formats, > Microsoft Office 2003 formats have become the de facto standard. > Students need to be able to prepare a homework, send a resume or show a > presentation saved in one of these formats without any loss of data or > pre
[libreoffice-marketing] Official Presentation Template
Hi, Do we have an Official Presentation Template? -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://identi.ca/danishka -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing]LibO marketing? [was: t-shirts ...]
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:09:23 -0700 Jon Hamkins wrote: > On 10/18/2010 08:53 PM, David Nelson wrote: > > Hi, :-) > > > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:42, Lucas Filho wrote: > >> I did some tests with the name and logo images for LibreOffice. > >> Look here: > > http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hohWhG7m3yw/TL0CER52n8I/AbE/0r3EEOQqPc0/s640/libo_test.png > > > > For me, the paper plane does not project any associations that I can > > connect with LibO. > > It does for me. The plane is paper, which I associate with documents. > (Ideally, the paper would have the TDF triangle in one corner, however.) > The plane also conveys a certain sense of ease of use (light, flying). > It also conveys a sense of irreverent freedom, as these are thrown in > class. So to me, 01 is the best of the 3 options, and it has some > potential. > > I can't really see the winged horse in 02 or 03 very well. I can't tell > which way the head is facing, for example. I agree with David, it isn't > likely to scale well. I'm not a fan of imaginary animals, either, I > guess. It gives me a sense of "LibO will succeed when horses fly." > > For any of the three, I think TDF would be better as expanded to "The > Document Foundation," using the full width under the LibreOffice logo. > > Jon > As an - up to now - silent reader of this list I have to agree on the horse not being distinguishable enough. There's already a branding page on the wiki now and I really like the logo and the guidelines (proposed?) ober there: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding The only thing I could imagine would be a logo-variation with the paper-plane. Perhaps the plane could "fly" through the "O" in the LibreOffice-logo posted on the Wiki? I think that'd make it a great graphical enhancement for t-shirts and stuff like that without making the official logo unrecognisable. Klaus -- Klaus Doblmann B.A. - FSF member #7570 Blog: http://straightrazorguy.net PGP-Key: http://dokla.net/pgp_key.asc http://twitter.com/klausdoblmann http://www.libreoffice.org - die FREIE Bürosuite! -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Academia
Jon Hamkins wrote: 1. Export to LaTeX*. Support for LaTeX in OOo was limited to the OOoLaTeX extension, which allows one to interface to a TeX engine by typing an equation in LaTeX-style, calling the TeX engine, and inserting a PNG of the typeset result into the OOo document. We used to have built-in LaTeX export from within OOo Writer, with decent results; then the component (which, if I recall correctly, was named Writer2LaTeX or similar) was moved back to a stand-alone project and removed from OOo. I never tested this on math formulas, I just tested it on basic Writer documents. then LibO could become like "LyX," a GUI for LaTeX, but better. While we do have a formula editor and basic tools, it would be rather hard to build a LaTeX export that can work "the LaTeX way", much like the HTML export suffers from unavoidable artificial conversions. Regards, Andrea Pescetti. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
