Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: A web page for TDF/LibreOffice store
Hi James, Danishka, all James Walker schrieb: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Danishka Navindanis...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion I think that we should really leave it up to the individual marketing teams to do this for their area. It would be easier to manage and then the items sold could be better customized to their market. you meant local communities will produce Tshirts and send their funds back to TDF ? I don't think it as a good solution, but it is the best solution if we are not working for fund raising with Tshirts. I don't think that it is necessary that all stores have to be led by TDF directly. In my eyes local stores make sense by avoiding customs, reducing transport fees and delivery times. Probably we (the community led by the Steering Committee) will have to define which way to go: a) one centralized store b) one central organization with different local stores c) officially approved local stores (one for each region) d) officially approved local stores (no restriction by region) like the distributor network on OOo e) stores without direct connection to the community / TDF With us having marketing broken down into regions, or languages, I think it would be easier for each language group or marketing area to do there own thing. Just like there are places in the US that make the items and handle shipping and everything else for you, I am sure there is in other countries as well. It would be really confusing I think to attempt a global store. I also am not sure what selling stuff under TDF would do for the non-profit aspect of the foundation. What I see is the US/CAN marketing teams setting up a place and then directing people to that site when they are out promoting LibreOffice. Then all the money that is generated from their store could go towards more Marketing in the area. I think seperating the funds like that would work just fine. I am going to end here for now, as I feel like I am rambling. Not at all - this is a topic we should discuss and decide, at it is a good opportunity to raise money. What I want to avoid is companies paying money to become the official LibO store - avoiding concurrent stores until the next one pays more money. Even if this might bring us the most money, it might not be the best situation for our users / customers and doesn't fit to my understanding of free and open. My preference is option d) Stores have to ask permission to be mentioned on our website. We provide officially approved designs for them to sell (or we accept their design proposals - under free license - as part of our official visual design) They can add a button/banner Officially approved LibreOffice store. They donate a certain percentage to TDF. Best regards Bernhard James -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Sorry I have not been very active lately
Hi James, James Walker wrote on 2010-12-02 21.00: My son gets married on the 11th, so we all that craziness to deal with. Can't wait for the new year to get here, maybe then it will slow down. :-) enjoy and have a great time! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] frontpage article on french IT newspaper
Hi, So I made the headlines of 01 Net, a famous french IT newspapers: http://www.01net.com/editorial/524298/la-communaute-openoffice-org-a-pris-son-destin-en-main/ Sorry it's in french... otherwise enjoy! Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: A web page for TDF/LibreOffice store
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: Hi James, Danishka, all James Walker schrieb: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Danishka Navindanis...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion I think that we should really leave it up to the individual marketing teams to do this for their area. It would be easier to manage and then the items sold could be better customized to their market. you meant local communities will produce Tshirts and send their funds back to TDF ? I don't think it as a good solution, but it is the best solution if we are not working for fund raising with Tshirts. I don't think that it is necessary that all stores have to be led by TDF directly. In my eyes local stores make sense by avoiding customs, reducing transport fees and delivery times. Probably we (the community led by the Steering Committee) will have to define which way to go: a) one centralized store b) one central organization with different local stores c) officially approved local stores (one for each region) d) officially approved local stores (no restriction by region) like the distributor network on OOo e) stores without direct connection to the community / TDF With us having marketing broken down into regions, or languages, I think it would be easier for each language group or marketing area to do there own thing. Just like there are places in the US that make the items and handle shipping and everything else for you, I am sure there is in other countries as well. It would be really confusing I think to attempt a global store. I also am not sure what selling stuff under TDF would do for the non-profit aspect of the foundation. What I see is the US/CAN marketing teams setting up a place and then directing people to that site when they are out promoting LibreOffice. Then all the money that is generated from their store could go towards more Marketing in the area. I think seperating the funds like that would work just fine. I am going to end here for now, as I feel like I am rambling. Not at all - this is a topic we should discuss and decide, at it is a good opportunity to raise money. What I want to avoid is companies paying money to become the official LibO store - avoiding concurrent stores until the next one pays more money. Even if this might bring us the most money, it might not be the best situation for our users / customers and doesn't fit to my understanding of free and open. My preference is option d) Stores have to ask permission to be mentioned on our website. We provide officially approved designs for them to sell (or we accept their design proposals - under free license - as part of our official visual design) They can add a button/banner Officially approved LibreOffice store. They donate a certain percentage to TDF. Best regards Bernhard Personally, I am looking into setting up something for the US/Can Marketing teams, where most of the money raised will go back into marketing efforts in the US/Can. I am sure we will have a little bit of overhead to maybe have someone take care of all the paperwork, and make sure all the orders make it to the person they are supposed to. I am still looking into the idea of the T-shirts that we discussed before, if someone would like to purpose artwork for say the front pocket of the T-shirt, and maybe a design for the back that would help. We could then vote on it, then I will make a list of all those interested in ordering and then see how much per T-shirt I can get them made. We have some very good quality T-shirts made for work every year. These are used in a shop enviroment and they last most of the guys a couple of years when we order 5 or so a piece. James Walker -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Press Kit -- what should there be in the LO press kit?
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: 1. a discussion platform for prepraration of PRs I would like to be as open as possible, and avoid having lots of private lists like we had with OOo. However, I acknowledge that there might be reasons for having documents not in public before we go out, so later on, it might make sense to indeed have a private marketing list that's not open to all the world. I, however, would like to decided that when needed. We promised openness and transparency, and should fulfill that whereever possible. the pirate party of germany had an open list and an open wiki to create and talk about press releases. it did backfire in all possible ways. we had vandalism, presspeople trying to get a pressrelease earlier*, very long discussions with people not in the pressteam (making the release late) now we use our own etherpad server (http://www.piratenpad.de/) and are very happy with it. *and thus printing wrong things because they used one version that was not nearly ready to be released and contained things ony backed by one lone party member -- Mein Wiki für Existenzgründer: http://g-wiki.de http://piratenblog.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/_ralph_ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Press Kit -- what should there be in the LO press kit?
Hi Ralph, Ralph H. wrote on 2010-12-03 16.24: the pirate party of germany had an open list and an open wiki to create and talk about press releases. it did backfire in all possible ways. we had vandalism, presspeople trying to get a pressrelease earlier*, very long discussions with people not in the pressteam (making the release late) thanks for sharing. I see the concerns. Then I would propose one private list for marketing in general, and avoid the distinction we had over at OOo with marcon@ and pr@ - I guess one closed list is enough, and we should make everything public that's possible. People usually tend to send everything to the private list, which is bad. :-) What do you all think about one private list? Thoughts very much welcome. (I always have very bad feelings about private lists...) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Press Kit -- what should there be in the LO press kit?
On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 00:05 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Ralph, Ralph H. wrote on 2010-12-03 16.24: the pirate party of germany had an open list and an open wiki to create and talk about press releases. it did backfire in all possible ways. we had vandalism, presspeople trying to get a pressrelease earlier*, very long discussions with people not in the pressteam (making the release late) thanks for sharing. I see the concerns. Then I would propose one private list for marketing in general, and avoid the distinction we had over at OOo with marcon@ and pr@ - I guess one closed list is enough, and we should make everything public that's possible. People usually tend to send everything to the private list, which is bad. :-) What do you all think about one private list? Hello Florian IMO, there is no way to get below one private list. Production of a PR is one good example of why I'd say. There are going to be specific tasks and discussions from time to time that require even more privacy then this single list can provide IMO, again I think that is inevitable. I would be loathe to create a second private list actually, however. Instead a proposal for the best way to handle that is by convention, specifically: When some community effort must be done under these more private terms one of the participants actually posts to either a public, or the private, list something along the lines of - so and so will be doing such and such, we'll get back to the group later with the results. I honestly don't think it needs be much more then that. Private communication when needed and transparency. As for the problem of over use of the private list, seems to me that is best handled, again. by convention _and_ someone being willing to actually enforce the convention - meaning simply, if they see topics being posted to the private list, that they feel should be public, they politely ask the poster to move it over. A happy task for the list moderator perhaps :-? Any how, just my 2 bits. Best wishes, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] professional speakers
Hi, I don't know if I already mentioned this, but we currently have two offers from professional speakers to do audio and voiceovers for LibreOffice. One of them speaks English, the other German - so if there's any need for that, ping me, I can establish contact (they are not subscribed to this list). Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
