[libreoffice-marketing] DVD and Jewel case design
We have spoken briefly a while ago about this, I was just wondering if we should also be looking at the design again seeing as the final version of LibO is approaching. You can find a design proposal here from Jens Habermann: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:JeHa And a short discussion on the german list here: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.discuss.german/1441 My opinion on the design is that it would be nice if it could be both in colour and a b/w for burning on Lightscribe DVD burners. There are some nice Lightscribe discs on the market that are green in colour. I was also wondering, if the DVD/Case designs are available, am I then permitted to burn and Lightscribe the disc to pass off to people wanting a copy of the disc? Is this allowable? What would I need on the disc to adhere to the LibO license? I would be interested in passing off copies at my school and perhaps have the library lend out copies for parents to install at home. Burning a nice looking CD would make it look more professional. If the burning of DVD/Jewel case designs are made easy, I could make arrangements for almost 55 schools to start off with. If we can make the process easy for people, we could include this in a LibO FAQ. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD and Jewel case design
Hi :) I think you need to put the original source code on the Cd. The GPL agreement allows you and/or the library/school to make a small profit from the sale of the Cds and to cover costs. I guess an ideal Cd would have the installers for all the various platforms along with the source code but you might want to have different Cds for Windows Mac and possibly Linux. As long as the source code is on the Cd then you are complying with the GPL agreement. At least that is my understanding from the previous discussion in here. Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: marketing@libreoffice.org Cc: mail...@jenshabermann.de Sent: Sat, 8 January, 2011 9:45:59 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD and Jewel case design We have spoken briefly a while ago about this, I was just wondering if we should also be looking at the design again seeing as the final version of LibO is approaching. You can find a design proposal here from Jens Habermann: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:JeHa And a short discussion on the german list here: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.discuss.german/1441 My opinion on the design is that it would be nice if it could be both in colour and a b/w for burning on Lightscribe DVD burners. There are some nice Lightscribe discs on the market that are green in colour. I was also wondering, if the DVD/Case designs are available, am I then permitted to burn and Lightscribe the disc to pass off to people wanting a copy of the disc? Is this allowable? What would I need on the disc to adhere to the LibO license? I would be interested in passing off copies at my school and perhaps have the library lend out copies for parents to install at home. Burning a nice looking CD would make it look more professional. If the burning of DVD/Jewel case designs are made easy, I could make arrangements for almost 55 schools to start off with. If we can make the process easy for people, we could include this in a LibO FAQ. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] official source code repository for CD distribution[was: DVD and Jewel case design]
Hi Tom, Tom Davies schrieb: Hi :) I think you need to put the original source code on the Cd. No, it is sufficient to provide a link to the code, but this link must be valid for a reasonable time. Due to server capacities I don't know if TDF will be able to provide such continuously reachable links to every version of LibreOffice, but this should be discussed by the SC (CC'ing the SC-discuss list). If we have a reliable external repository for previous versions (don't know how long they need to be stored - 3 years?), CDs could link there. For DVD with enough space on the disc it is easier to include the sources IMHO. The GPL agreement allows you and/or the library/school to make a small profit from the sale of the Cds and to cover costs. It's LGPL, but this doesn't make a difference, as LGPL refers to GPL. As far a I know there is no clause in the license that hinders anybody to take as much money as wanted for the CDs/DVDs. But I'd like to see us pointing out, that fair use of LibreOffice includes the information about free download from our website, so everybody will have the chance to decide how much she is willing to pay. (And part of the money earned by selling CDs/DVDs could be donated to the community...) I guess an ideal Cd would have the installers for all the various platforms along with the source code but you might want to have different Cds for Windows Mac and possibly Linux. That depends on the goals of the CDs/DVDs. I like the approach of LibreOffice-Box (present state at http://www.libreofficebox.org/, at the moment only in German) providing an ISO with all installers, source code, documentation, extensions and artwork (as well as related open source software) on DVD. But if you want to provide CDs only it might be necessary to divide the installers by language or operating system. Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Thanks for any help. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 15:57 +0300, sophie wrote: Hi all, On 08/01/2011 15:48, David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. In English and not under Windows, please :-) Windowsarrrgh - ok. *smile* @David - is there a particular size you want? Thanks for any help. ;-) +1 +1 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
In English and not under Windows, please :-) Windowsarrrgh - ok. *smile* @Sophie - oh, sorry I read that backwards... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Drew, :-) Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots myself in a uniform manner And Sophie, sorry, but they *will* be under Windows, not Linux, even though I'm a full-time Linux user myself, because *most* people use Windows and I don't want people thinking LibreOffice is some kind of marginal, geek product. TIA for any good data files you got. IN ENGLISH. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi David, On 08/01/2011 16:19, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots myself in a uniform manner And Sophie, sorry, but they *will* be under Windows, not Linux, even though I'm a full-time Linux user myself, because *most* people use Windows and I don't want people thinking LibreOffice is some kind of marginal, geek product. There is some legal reasons for not having them under Windows, from what I remember you're not allowed to make screenshots of Windows product, this is noted on their website. You can make the skin of your Linux looks like Windows and you're safe :-) TIA for any good data files you got. IN ENGLISH. The difficult part for me ;-) If they are in English, they are not mine :) Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 21:19 +0800, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots myself in a uniform manner Ok, most of what I have does not use embedded database files, but I have a few of those also. Will send a these direct to your email account. Ciao, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Drew, :-) Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D David Nelson On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 21:32, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 21:19 +0800, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots myself in a uniform manner Ok, most of what I have does not use embedded database files, but I have a few of those also. Will send a these direct to your email account. Ciao, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi David, Drew, On 08/01/2011 16:45, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) Sorry to insist but I don't want to take the risk : This is what is written on the site :* Requirements for Allowed Uses* For permission to be granted for any uses allowed by these guidelines, you must comply with the following four requirements: 1. If your use includes references to a Microsoft product, you must use the full name of the product. When referencing any Microsoft trademarks, follow the General Microsoft Trademark Guidelines http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/Default.aspx. 2. You must include the following statement: Used with permission from Microsoft. 3. Your use may not be obscene or pornographic, and you may not be disparaging, defamatory, or libelous to Microsoft, any of its products, or any other person or entity. 4. You may link to Microsoft content by using either a plain text link with words such as This way to Microsoft.com or by participating in an applicable Link Logo program. No other images may be used as a link to a Microsoft site. Screen Shots You may not use screen shots of Microsoft product boot-up screens, opening screens, splash screens, or screens from beta release products or other products that have not been commercially released. You may use other screen shots in advertising, in documentation (including educational brochures), in tutorial books, in videotapes, or on Web sites, provided that, in addition to the requirements above, you: 1. Do not alter the screen shot except to resize it. 2. Do not use portions of screen shots. 3. Do not include screen shots in your product user interface. 4. Do not use screen shots that contain third-party content. 5. Do not use screen shots that contain an image of an identifiable individual. So it is clear that you're not allowed to take screenshots showing LibO on a Windows system. And I don't find very sexy to add on each Used with permission from Microsoft As said you can adapt the LibO theme and your Linux them to look more Windows like and everything will be ok. This is what we have done for years for OOo and guess what, we have sell several copy of it ;-) Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Drew, all, ;-) if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D So, once again, my need is the above. ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Fabian, Drew, all, :-) if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (or if you really want to use Linux, a theme that closely resembles the above) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean (that would ideally be a total of 60 to 70 screenshots of the 6 products? but you best effort will be gratefully accepted... ;-) Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D Or, please just send me sample documents that I can use. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi David, On 08/01/2011 17:54, David Nelson wrote: Hi Sophie, :-) Truthfully, your interpretation of what that text refers to is erroneous... they are talking of screenshots of Microsoft products such as MS Windows or Office, but *not* of screenshots taken of other people's products and works simply running under MS Windows... There's no need to worry. You see screenshots of software running under Windows *all over the Internet*... ;-) We're perfectly safe. ;-) No, it's not my interpretation (I know I may not have a full understanding of another language :), we never get a firm statement but only different interpretations from lawyers, this is why we have decided to not use screen shots made using Windows. I can't remember where the discussions occurs on the OOo site, maybe website list, I'll point you to the archives otherwise. It may sound stupid, but can you imagine that I had to declare people using ssh for the OOoFR site in France several years ago because the encryption we used was not allowed and considered as a security issue. I'm sure the Debian contributors never have to do so. Just to say that we have to be cautious. In any case, I already took a large number of screenshots, and our documentation is *full* of screenshots taken under Windows, so this would involve an *enormous* amount of work to rectify.. ;-) Yes may be, but it's not a sufficient reason to continue to take the risk :). The more we are visible and known, the more we are exposed. Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) To restate the need... I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them using a theme that closely resembles MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean f) The file you use for taking the screenshot should ideally be called sample.odt (or whatever extension) Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi David, On 08/01/2011 18:42, David Nelson wrote: [...] b) take them using a theme that closely resembles MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) Thanks for your understanding, it is really appreciate :-) [...] Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D If you still need something by tomorrow, tell me, I can turn my UI to English and fill some nice content. Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) OK, restatement of need again. I am going to scrap all the screenshots I previously took under Windows and completely start again. For those of you who want to help me with screenshots, can we please follow these bases *exactly*, so that we get a uniform set of shots that don't spoil the site design? (I am starting my shot-taking now, and won't be re-doing it again, so this is the way the shots on the site are going to be for the moment.) I have decided to adopt 1000px by 750px for the window size when taking the shot. (Under Ubuntu, you can easily use Screen Ruler for accurately sizing the window. The actual graphic shown on the pages will be downsized.) I am going to use screenshots taken under Ubuntu with the default Ambiance theme (with *no* visual effects activated). Reminder: I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) Take them under Ubuntu Linux, using the Ambiance theme, with *no* visual effects. b) Take the *window only* with the window frame - not the whole desktop. c) 1000px wide by 750px tall - you can use Screen Ruler to accurately size the window. e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the key features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean f) The file you use for taking the screenshot should ideally be called sample.odt (or whatever extension) I'll be working on this today Sunday, Jan 9, and tomorrow Monday, Jan 10. I'll be able to use all your contributions that comply with the above and that arrive within these 2 days. Please mail your contributions directly to me. ;-) A big thanks for any help. ;-) P.S. If you're not posting specifically about the work I'm talking about on this thread, please post under another thread and do not go OT here. Thanks for you kind understanding about this. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
