Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Libreoffice marketing advice
Hi Junli,在 2014/8/14 21:44, wangjunli 写道: I very want to join to promote Libreoffice groups, make a little contribution to open source software. 我是一名Libreoffice的忠实用户，我来自中国。我非常想加入到推广Libreoffice 的团体中来，为开源软件做出一点点贡献。I am so happy that there is another one one who want to be a member of the world-wide comunity, to contribute to libreoffice and help to make it better. 很高兴我们的全球社区中又多了一名成员，让我们一起努力让LibreOffice变得更好！For Libreoffice cover density and user utilization in China relative to other office software (such as ms office, kingsoft WPS office, etc.) or lower. 对于Libreoffice在中国的覆盖密度和用户使用率相对其他办公软件（例如：ms office 、金山wps office等）而言还是比较低的。This is true, most of chinese office users still use MSO 2003 + WinXP, most business users uses MSO 2007/2010 + Win7. The others use WPS. But, however as you can see, our Chinese libreoffice comunity is growing. LibreOffice 4.x UI is now 100% localized in Chinese; the new zh-cn.libreoffice.org website is now available; and also, we ACTom has set up a discuz! forum (www.libreofficechina.org), and over the past 2 month we see a lot of people registered.没错，LibreOffice在中国的渗透率现在确实很低，很多人用盗版的MSO，一些人用WPS。但是，我们LibreOffice中文社区正 在发展壮大。你也能看到，4.x版本的UI中文化已经100%了，help的翻译也在完善，新的中文官网也早就面世了，另外@涛建立了一个中文社 区论坛，每天都在吸引用户注册。Why Libreoffice into such a market situation in China? Mainly used in the user, technical support and Libreoffice caused by its own problems, and so on! There are many enterprises in China to pick the Microsoft office for money or domestic WPS office office software, such as little to pick the Libreoffice open source as its corporate office software. The problem was the main reason is that Microsoft office and WPS office of ease of use for the Chinese obviously higher than that of Libreoffice ease of use. Followed by the use of software education problems, almost more than 90% of people in China begin to contact the computer operating system is facing the Windows office software of Microsoft office. And now, right now, the chance of Libreoffice is coming!为什么 Libreoffice在中国会成这样一个市场局面呢？主要是用户的使用习惯，技术支持和Libreoffice自身的一些问题等等所造成 的！在中国有许许多多的企业选着要钱的微软office或国产的wps office等这些办公软件，却很少选着开源的Libreoffice作为其企业的办公软件。这个问题的主要原因是因为微软office和wps office的易用性对于中国人来说明显高于Libreoffice的易用性。其次是软件的使用的教育问题，在中国几乎90%以上的人一开始 接触计算机时面对的操作系统就是windows办公软件则是微软office。而现在，就是现在，Libreoffice的机会来了！This is also true. In some aspects, MSO and WPS seems more easy to use, and more stable (but in some aspects I do not agree). Users always have their choices.Also, when I was in school and learn computer for the first time, I never heard of LibreOffice/OpenOffice (maybe the teachers never heard of libreoffice either). And nowadays, I am sure there are still many schools using MSO 2003/ WinXP for teaching, and teachers only accept doc/xls formats.Because China is now very support domestic Linux system, and openoffice (Libreoffice) and Libreoffice has been renowned under Linux operating system software for office use, so now can Libreoffice took advantage of the Chinese policy of spring breeze, the Linux operating system with China manufacturers and the Chinese government and some famous education institutions to cooperate, in order to expand market coverage in China. Cooperation target roughly as follows:由于现在中国非常支持 国产Linux系统的推出，而openoffice(Libreoffice的前身) 和Libreoffice一直是Linux操作系统下赫赫有名的办公软件，所以现在 Libreoffice可以趁着中国政策的春风，与中国Linux操 作系统生产厂商以及中国 政府和一些有名的教育机构进行合作，以此来在中国扩大市场覆盖率。合作大致目标如下：With Linux manufacturers cooperation purpose: mainly to the OEM manufacturers become Libreoffice. Is now in China, of course, Linux system manufacturers become Libreoffice OEM temporarily is a relatively easy thing, but now our Libreoffice must attack quickly, otherwise the day in the future we will be very sad, because kingsoft WPS office office software company's products for Linux is now fully open, WPS office for ease of use and the use of the user habit of Linux is very suitable for Chinese users. So we must grasp firmly binding will Libreoffice this product in the Chinese domestic Linux system, only in this way in the future Libreoffice would have a place!与Linux生产厂商 的合作目的：主要是让这些生产厂商成为Libreoffice的OEM。当然，就现在看来在中国Linux系统生产厂商成为 Libreoffice的OEM暂时是一件较容 易办到的事情，但是，现在我们的Libreoffice一定要出击迅速，不然在未来我们 的日子将会非常难过，因为金山办公软件公司的旗下产品wps office for Linux现 在 已经全面开启，wps office for Linux的易用性和对用户的使用习惯 来说非常 适合中国的用户。所以我们一定要抓紧将Libreoffice这个产品牢牢的绑定在中国 国产Linux系 统中，只有这样在未来Libreoffice才会有一席之地！I do see Deepin Linux chooses WPS4Linux as the default office suite (and seems UbuntuKylin also chooses WPS?). In my opinion, this is really a bad choice, as WPS2Linux is only at its alpha stage, and
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Libreoffice marketing advice
在 2014年08月15日 21:54, Kevin Suo 写道: Hi Junli,在 2014/8/14 21:44, wangjunli 写道: I very want to join to promote Libreoffice groups, make a little contribution to open source software. 我是一名Libreoffice的忠实用户，我来自中国。我非常想加入到推广Libreoffice 的团体中来，为开源软件做出一点点贡献。I am so happy that there is another one one who want to be a member of the world-wide comunity, to contribute to libreoffice and help to make it better. 很高兴我们的全球社区中又多了一名成员，让我们一起努力让LibreOffice变得更好！For Libreoffice cover density and user utilization in China relative to other office software (such as ms office, kingsoft WPS office, etc.) or lower. 对于Libreoffice在中国的覆盖密度和用户使用率相对其他办公软件（例如：ms office 、金山wps office等）而言还是比较低的。This is true, most of chinese office users still use MSO 2003 + WinXP, most business users uses MSO 2007/2010 + Win7. The others use WPS. But, however as you can see, our Chinese libreoffice comunity is growing. LibreOffice 4.x UI is now 100% localized in Chinese; the new zh-cn.libreoffice.org website is now available; and also, we ACTom has set up a discuz! forum (www.libreofficechina.org), and over the past 2 month we see a lot of people registered.没错，LibreOffice在中国的渗透率现在确实很低，很多人用盗版的MSO，一些人用WPS。但是，我们LibreOffice中文社区正 在发展壮大。你也能看到，4.x版本的UI中文化已经100%了，help的翻译也在完善，新的中文官网也早就面世了，另外@涛建立了一个中文社 区论坛，每天都在吸引用户注册。 正如我们所看的那样，Libreoffice的UI全中文化这能代表这是一个开始不能代表 市场占有率，Libreoffice的易用性和快捷性是硬伤（这 个不存在用户技术上的问 题，而是软件设计上的问题）。当然，大家在Libreoffice的本土化中贡献，幸苦 您们了！Libreoffice的 本土化这是一个进入中国市场的重要条件也是必要条件。 不过我们现在还是慢了。 Why Libreoffice into such a market situation in China? Mainly used in the user, technical support and Libreoffice caused by its own problems, and so on! There are many enterprises in China to pick the Microsoft office for money or domestic WPS office office software, such as little to pick the Libreoffice open source as its corporate office software. The problem was the main reason is that Microsoft office and WPS office of ease of use for the Chinese obviously higher than that of Libreoffice ease of use. Followed by the use of software education problems, almost more than 90% of people in China begin to contact the computer operating system is facing the Windows office software of Microsoft office. And now, right now, the chance of Libreoffice is coming!为什么 Libreoffice在中国会成这样一个市场局面呢？主要是用户的使用习惯，技术支持和Libreoffice自身的一些问题等等所造成 的！在中国有许许多多的企业选着要钱的微软office或国产的wps office等这些办公软件，却很少选着开源的Libreoffice作为其企业的办公软件。这个问题的主要原因是因为微软office和wps office的易用性对于中国人来说明显高于Libreoffice的易用性。其次是软件的使用的教育问题，在中国几乎90%以上的人一开始 接触计算机时面对的操作系统就是windows办公软件则是微软office。而现在，就是现在，Libreoffice的机会来了！This is also true. In some aspects, MSO and WPS seems more easy to use, and more stable (but in some aspects I do not agree). Users always have their choices.Also, when I was in school and learn computer for the first time, I never heard of LibreOffice/OpenOffice (maybe the teachers never heard of libreoffice either). And nowadays, I am sure there are still many schools using MSO 2003/ WinXP for teaching, and teachers only accept doc/xls formats.Because China is now very support domestic Linux system, and openoffice (Libreoffice) and Libreoffice has been renowned under Linux operating system software for office use, so now can Libreoffice took advantage of the Chinese policy of spring breeze, the Linux operating system with China manufacturers and the Chinese government and some famous education institutions to cooperate, in order to expand market coverage in China. Cooperation target roughly as follows:由于现在中国非常支持 国产Linux系统的推出，而openoffice(Libreoffice的前身) 和Libreoffice一直是Linux操作系统下赫赫有名的办公软件，所以现在 Libreoffice可以趁着中国政策的春风，与中国Linux操 作系统生产厂商以及中国 政府和一些有名的教育机构进行合作，以此来在中国扩大市场覆盖率。合作大致目标如下：With Linux manufacturers cooperation purpose: mainly to the OEM manufacturers become Libreoffice. Is now in China, of course, Linux system manufacturers become Libreoffice OEM temporarily is a relatively easy thing, but now our Libreoffice must attack quickly, otherwise the day in the future we will be very sad, because kingsoft WPS office office software company's products for Linux is now fully open, WPS office for ease of use and the use of the user habit of Linux is very suitable for Chinese users. So we must grasp firmly binding will Libreoffice this product in the Chinese domestic Linux system, only in this way in the future Libreoffice would have a place!与Linux生产厂商 的合作目的：主要是让这些生产厂商成为Libreoffice的OEM。当然，就现在看来在中国Linux系统生产厂商成为 Libreoffice的OEM暂时是一件较容 易办到的事情，但是，现在我们的Libreoffice一定要出击迅速，不然在未来我们 的日子将会非常难过，因为金山办公软件公司的旗下产品wps office for Linux现 在 已经全面开启，wps office for Linux的易用性和对用户的使用习惯 来说非常
